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hi guys
i checked the link 2SD latest version that enable you to convert system app to user app , then link them to SD card !!
fantastic ! isn't it ?
but i found that converting some system app makes our rom crazy and Force close happening.
my question is , do you know which app's are convert-able and which one isn't ?!
till now , i know that converting phone and home launcher makes sooooo many force close !
can you please share your experience together ?
I tried it on the Android framework, and now my XPlay is bricked...
My guess is that the ones that would be compatible with transferring to the sd card are also the ones that are safe to remove. If you're going to test any more than that, maybe test the phone and messaging apps, but other than that, there's some real dangerous ground you'll be walking, as neverwinter found out.
lightningdude said:
My guess is that the ones that would be compatible with transferring to the sd card are also the ones that are safe to remove. If you're going to test any more than that, maybe test the phone and messaging apps, but other than that, there's some real dangerous ground you'll be walking, as neverwinter found out.
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thank you
i'm ganna try it again
there is a light , always
neverwinter said:
I tried it on the Android framework, and now my XPlay is bricked...
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bricked? if xperia play hardware is not effected in anyway, and you have CWM, unlocked bootloader its never bricked just soft bricked
I tried it on Gmail and it wouldn't do it.
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I tried it on The Amazon Kindle app and it worked. Asphalt 6 and Star Battalion it would not. Same for VZ Navigator (but I think I can uninstall it). That said I'm worried to do too much of this for the possibility of it screwing up a future OTA update.
Rogue Leader said:
I tried it on The Amazon Kindle app and it worked. Asphalt 6 and Star Battalion it would not. Same for VZ Navigator (but I think I can uninstall it). That said I'm worried to do too much of this for the possibility of it screwing up a future OTA update.
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What OTA update? You think Verizon's actually going to do anything more for this phone?
In all seriousness, though, I'm not entirely sure the Link2SD has good implementation of this method. You might try Titanium Backup to convert system to user apps, then try linking it with Link2SD. It may still not work, but it'd be worth a shot, I suppose.
Furthermore, I always delete bloatware I'm not going to use with Titantium Backup. If I need to go back to stock for an OTA, I just flash the complete stock of whatever phone I'm on. For us on the Xperia Play, we have the .ftf files. That'll prep you for an OTA just fine.
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What OTA update? You think Verizon's actually going to do anything more for this phone?
In all seriousness, though, I'm not entirely sure the Link2SD has good implementation of this method. You might try Titanium Backup to convert system to user apps, then try linking it with Link2SD. It may still not work, but it'd be worth a shot, I suppose.
Furthermore, I always delete bloatware I'm not going to use with Titantium Backup. If I need to go back to stock for an OTA, I just flash the complete stock of whatever phone I'm on. For us on the Xperia Play, we have the .ftf files. That'll prep you for an OTA just fine.
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Hilariously, that exact question came across my head last night. In all reality I think they are done with it, we are never gonna see 2.3.4 or ICS (although shockingly they still sell it $19.99 w/2 yr in store, or free online w/2yr).
I'm gonna probably go the titanium backup route. I am running out of space severely.
U can try system/app mover on play store,but u need root. It works great! I changed some apps in my Cyanogen nightly build,like messaging app ,or stock camera and even converted Gboard
I update my phone with new ROMs every now and then, I like to have that option of custom ROMs, but I have a question about google play, sometimes it downloads all of my apps if it detects if I have the same ROM as last one and it auto downloads the apps I had before, but this new ROM I have it doesn't seem to this, is there any way I can just press a button and it will download all the apps I have in "My Apps" on google play, I deleted the crap I didn't need but I still have over 50 apps and I don't want to do one by one, please and thanks, sorry for my English is not that good.
Dragosmp said:
I update my phone with new ROMs every now and then, I like to have that option of custom ROMs, but I have a question about google play, sometimes it downloads all of my apps if it detects if I have the same ROM as last one and it auto downloads the apps I had before, but this new ROM I have it doesn't seem to this, is there any way I can just press a button and it will download all the apps I have in "My Apps" on google play, I deleted the crap I didn't need but I still have over 50 apps and I don't want to do one by one, please and thanks, sorry for my English is not that good.
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Some roms allow you to backup and restore phone from Google Play account when you are going through the setup at the beginning. Best bet however would be to download Titanium Backup and backup all apps. When you flash a new rom you re-download TiBu and you can install all the apps+their data.
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Some roms allow you to backup and restore phone from Google Play account when you are going through the setup at the beginning. Best bet however would be to download Titanium Backup and backup all apps. When you flash a new rom you re-download TiBu and you can install all the apps+their data.
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Ok I will try that next time, but is there anything I can do right now that will give me all my apps back?
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Ok I will try that next time, but is there anything I can do right now that will give me all my apps back?
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I'm afraid if you didn't make a nandroid or backup using TiBu, nothing. Sorry
I use cm10 that has nightly updates that I update through the settings. It doesnt effect my apps or anything. But you need to back up your apps if you change roms with titanium backup before changing roms.
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I use cm10 that has nightly updates that I update through the settings. It doesnt effect my apps or anything. But you need to back up your apps if you change roms with titanium backup before changing roms.
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Is the pro version recommended? Should I buy it? What is the difference.
The pro version is absolutely recommended. For one thing, it allows you to "freeze" apps instead of just delete them. This comes in handy when you have to re-install GAPPS because it will remember if you freeze any of the GAPPS programs whenever you re-flash GAPPS.
Also, the Pro version lets you restore all apps with just a couple button clicks. Vs. the free version which makes you click "okay" for every single app you want to restore. Gets real tiring after awhile.
Anyways. When you're installing a ROM, most will give you an option when you sign into GOOGLE for the first time. That option is whether you want Google to back up or restore your phone. If you select "restore" then it will typically re-download all your last apps to your phone.
If you want to get this option again, you might try signing out of Google on your phone and reboot and log back in. Dunno if that will do the trick or not. You may just need to reflash.
Threw this together. A simple aroma-based debater for the OP5. If anyone wants something more added, just let me know...
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298973644
dustintinsley said:
Threw this together. A simple aroma-based debater for the OP5. If anyone wants something more added, just let me know...
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298973644
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more info please..
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gershee said:
more info please..
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A debloater for OnePlus 5 (really any OxygenOS, but I only have OP5 now). Allows for removal of a lot of pre-installed apps. All apps are user selected. Can trim down and remove unused apps.
Hi,
I tried it with new OOS 4.57 and did not delete any Gapp
For system apps related to Oneplus like logskit and so on, it was ok and working like a charm.
tokecin said:
Hi,
I tried it with new OOS 4.57 and did not delete any Gapp
For system apps related to Oneplus like logskit and so on, it was ok and working like a charm.
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Interesting comment as my long time debloat app System app remover (ROOT) wasn't able to remove Gapps apps (Google Music, Google Movie/TV) either. I'm trying to make /system room for installing V4ARISE but after this latest OTA there is not enough /system space left.
In fact that's why I'm looking at this debloat method. I wonder if the issue you observed is why the app I'd previously used no longer works. Unless I find something better I'll likely try Titanium Backup's uninstall method but I was looking for a way to batch clean up which I suspect would need to get done after every OTA.
EDIT: Using Titanium Backup to backup then uninstall worked. I removed Duo (~20Mg) to recovery the space I needed.
3DSammy said:
Interesting comment as my long time debloat app System app remover (ROOT) wasn't able to remove Gapps apps (Google Music, Google Movie/TV) either. I'm trying to make /system room for installing V4ARISE but after this latest OTA there is not enough /system space left.
In fact that's why I'm looking at this debloat method. I wonder if the issue you observed is why the app I'd previously used no longer works. Unless I find something better I'll likely try Titanium Backup's uninstall method but I was looking for a way to batch clean up which I suspect would need to get done after every OTA.
EDIT: Using Titanium Backup to backup then uninstall worked. I removed Duo (~20Mg) to recovery the space I needed.
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I am using also Titanium Backup for Gapps but freezing them rather than un-install.
Today, I tried deeper aroma script and I can uninstall every bloatware less Gapps (Chrome, Gmail,...)
I'd really like to be able to disable the app-bar. Anyone know how?
You can remove it in Settings > App. Like how you would uninstall or disable apps on any other Android device.
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Thanks, yes, but I'd prefer not to uninstall it, just in case I want to use it later. I know that it can be reinstalled from the Planet website, but I was hoping for a less brutal option. Looks like uninstalling might have to be the way to go though.
Captainfuzzyface said:
Hi,
Thanks, yes, but I'd prefer not to uninstall it, just in case I want to use it later. I know that it can be reinstalled from the Planet website, but I was hoping for a less brutal option. Looks like uninstalling might have to be the way to go though.
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Root the device (it won't wipe it to flash the rooted boot image) and install an app like App Quarantine to freeze/disable apps you don't want running but also don't want to uninstall.
Based on the title itself, what are the list of apps/packages that you guys removed (or can be removed) to debloat Mi A2 Lite?
Theres not that much bloatware in the device. And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.
Uuuhhh. Welcome to my world. I don't like being tracked all the time by the countless sensors a modern smartphone has. Privacy is utterly important for me (and should be for everyone, but I'm not here to discuss this haha). Also, I hate making it easy to the multimillionaire companies profiting from selling and playing with your privacy. That's why I can't wait for the custom ROMs to start showing.
So, for now I disabled ALL google and all xiaomi apps. All of them except the "phone", "clock" and "carrier services" apps (the first 2 are too delicate for me and I didn't find a trustworthy alternative and I have no idea what the 3rd does, but seems important haha). Everything else, gone. Even "feedback", "PAI" and "Spock". And, of course, I don't have a google account linked to the device.
On the first boot, the phone connects to the internet and downloads a few other Google and Xiaomi apps. I prevented it to do so, so I wouldn't have to disable too many apps. I disabled google play services, play store and device setup (among the other ones) before connecting to internet.
Everything works fine in my phone (only one issue. Some apps rely on google services to show the map image. The image doesn't work while google services are disabled. But you can always enable it if you wanna use it).
Let me know if you have any question of any app/service/whatever you want to disable. I can share the alternative apps I use for the disable Google ones. I must say that most of them work even better.
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Uuuhhh. Welcome to my world. I don't like being tracked all the time by the countless sensors a modern smartphone has. Privacy is utterly important for me (and should be for everyone, but I'm not here to discuss this haha). Also, I hate making it easy to the multimillionaire companies profiting from selling and playing with your privacy. That's why I can't wait for the custom ROMs to start showing.
So, for now I disabled ALL google and all xiaomi apps. All of them except the "phone", "clock" and "carrier services" apps (the first 2 are too delicate for me and I didn't find a trustworthy alternative and I have no idea what the 3rd does, but seems important haha). Everything else, gone. Even "feedback", "PAI" and "Spock". And, of course, I don't have a google account linked to the device.
On the first boot, the phone connects to the internet and downloads a few other Google and Xiaomi apps. I prevented it to do so, so I wouldn't have to disable too many apps. I disabled google play services, play store and device setup (among the other ones) before connecting to internet.
Everything works fine in my phone (only one issue. Some apps rely on google services to show the map image. The image doesn't work while google services are disabled. But you can always enable it if you wanna use it).
Let me know if you have any question of any app/service/whatever you want to disable. I can share the alternative apps I use for the disable Google ones. I must say that most of them work even better.
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That's awesome. I wanted to know your alternatives to some of the system apps. I wanted to uninstall the default file manager of oreo but I can't find the package name from "debloater" magisk module. Also, what are the packages/apps that you uninstalled? Do you mind listing it here?
fake__knv said:
And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.
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is it true?
can anyone check it?
maybe magisk is not causing problems with OTA updates?
fake__knv said:
Theres not that much bloatware in the device. And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.
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You can uninstall non wanted stuff with the help of ADB without the need of rooting your phone. It doesn't get uninstalled for real, but hidden for the main user profile. Those apps can't run but OTA isn't a problem.
Check it out:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
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You can remove carrier services if you removed Google Messages aswell.
"In a nutshell, the Carrier Services app is intended to allow your smart phone to take full advantage of a technology called Rich Communications Services, or RCS.
RCS allows for extra features in the Android Messaging app. The thing is most carriers have their own methods of supporting RCS in place so Google’s app is often redundant."
elvinguitar said:
That's awesome. I wanted to know your alternatives to some of the system apps. I wanted to uninstall the default file manager of oreo but I can't find the package name from "debloater" magisk module. Also, what are the packages/apps that you uninstalled? Do you mind listing it here?
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I've just created this post. I hope you find it useful
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/how-to/guide-apps-services-safe-to-disable-t3849263
I'm still working on it. Check in tomorrow and it'll be finished.
adriakus said:
I've just created this post. I hope you find it useful
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/how-to/guide-apps-services-safe-to-disable-t3849263
I'm still working on it. Check in tomorrow and it'll be finished.
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Awesome! Thanks for creating this thread. I'll definitely check it out.
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is it true?
can anyone check it?
maybe magisk is not causing problems with OTA updates?
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I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
Majaque said:
I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
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Can Adaway cause problems with OTA updates?
krzygaj said:
Can Adaway cause problems with OTA updates?
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Yes, to prevent it you should turn on "Systemless host" option in Magisk Manager.
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I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
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Force-disabling a system app affects the system partition? Or it would only affect it if it's unisntalled?
adriakus said:
Force-disabling a system app affects the system partition? Or it would only affect it if it's unisntalled?
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Shouldn't be a problem. If you disable/freeze a system app with for example Titanium Backup and you restore the stock system partition via fastboot afterwards, the disabled app is still disabled. So the conclusion should be that those changes to the app aren't touching the system partition at all and are stored to the data partition instead.
Don't hit me if this isn't the case.
Hi everyone ,Before realize debloat system app like Google maps , youtube, etc will be a problem to apply new OTA , i uninstall some ones with "3C toolbox" making backup before , after that i restore the backups.
The question is , i am ok for apply future OTAs?.
Thanks.
Txatxiquesi said:
Hi everyone ,Before realize debloat system app like Google maps , youtube, etc will be a problem to apply new OTA , i uninstall some ones with "3C toolbox" making backup before , after that i restore the backups.
The question is , i am ok for apply future OTAs?.
Thanks.
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Probably restoring backups of uninstalled apps isn't enough to be OTA ready, better just disable/freeze system stuff. You won't get free space fo to use after uninstalling anyways.
thorin0815 said:
Probably restoring backups of uninstalled apps isn't enough to be OTA ready, better just disable/freeze system stuff. You won't get free space fo to use after uninstalling anyways.
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Ok, thanks , and now what i should do to be OTA ready?.
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Ok, thanks , and now what i should do to be OTA ready?.
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Reflash system_a and system_b partitions via fastboot.
thorin0815 said:
You can uninstall non wanted stuff with the help of ADB without the need of rooting your phone. It doesn't get uninstalled for real, but hidden for the main user profile. Those apps can't run but OTA isn't a problem.
Check it out:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
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@adriakus
You can remove carrier services if you removed Google Messages aswell.
"In a nutshell, the Carrier Services app is intended to allow your smart phone to take full advantage of a technology called Rich Communications Services, or RCS.
RCS allows for extra features in the Android Messaging app. The thing is most carriers have their own methods of supporting RCS in place so Google’s app is often redundant."
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Have you try to safely uninstall Feedback app? Really don't need it and i'd like to uninstall it without ota's issues
I've uninstalled the Feedback app and received the july's OTA without issues.
I've used this app: https://github.com/Saki-EU/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
Akbhar said:
I've uninstalled the Feedback app and received the july's OTA without issues.
I've used this app: https://github.com/Saki-EU/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
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Ty so much,i've had a quick look and it seems promising.Not so happy about Java,it's needed,but if you promise me you didn't have OTA issues i'll surely use it for my purposes.