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Has anyone else seen noticeable Lag after updating to Android 10 in the galaxy s10 or Note10+.
Using the samsung launcher, there is lag when scrolling through the app drawer and multitasking.
I have tried,*
cleaning my dalvik cache
Removing my SD card
Updating all apps for android 10
And performing the built in device care optimization*
I think a performance update is needed to take care of this.
The multitasking lag becomes worse during the day until phone is restarted.*
Update 31012020: I finally decided to factory reset my phone. This did not work. I use nova launcher and uninstalled it as well. Lag still remains.
I have found that the lag only appears after about 20+ apps are in the recent apps menu. However this issue did not happen in Android 9. What is also interesting my moms s10 exhibits the same behaviour.
Further I have gone into developer options and when I set Animator level from 1x to 0x, the lag is gone. This is the only solution. However the downside to this is that instead of animations of loading wheels or progress bars, there is just a static circular arrow. I hope Samsunf fixes this issue.

Have had zero lag since updating to android 10. Never had any lag on pie either. Maybe its just an issue with your phone

I had alot of lag, everything lagged actually. The latest TMobile update fixed it for me.

I have had lag. Just opening simple apps like what's app and trying to start typing.

I have the very same issue on my Exynos Note 10. After the Android 10 update, app launcher and app switcher lag like it's 2006.

Lag in Note 10 +
Hi, just updated to 10 and it's really poor. Lag everywhere. Mostly between apps pages. But mostly everywhere. I'm in NZ with Spark Network. Personally feel this has to be fixed with an update.

moiza67 said:
Originally posted on Samsung members. This issue is now critical. If you care about this issue, I have created an issue under Samsung Members. Please post your experience and issues there and hopefully it gets the attention of Samsung
https://r1.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note/Android-10-Lag-on-Note10/td-p/3320184
Has anyone else seen noticeable Lag after updating to Android 10 in the galaxy s10 or Note10+.
Using the samsung launcher, there is lag when scrolling through the app drawer and multitasking.
I have tried,*
cleaning my dalvik cache
Removing my SD card
Updating all apps for android 10
And performing the built in device care optimization*
I think a performance update is needed to take care of this.
The multitasking lag becomes worse during the day until phone is restarted.*
Update 31012020: I finally decided to factory reset my phone. This did not work. I use nova launcher and uninstalled it as well. Lag still remains.
I have found that the lag only appears after about 20+ apps are in the recent apps menu. However this issue did not happen in Android 9. What is also interesting my moms s10 exhibits the same behaviour.
Further I have gone into developer options and when I set Animator level from 1x to 0x, the lag is gone. This is the only solution. However the downside to this is that instead of animations of loading wheels or progress bars, there is just a static circular arrow. I hope Samsunf fixes this issue.
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Had exactly the same issue on my note 10+ (exynos).. after complaining about the issue I saw a post that mentioned that some apps with the permission to display on top was the culprit. In my case, after disabling this permission of dashlane it fixed the problem. Are you using dashlane?
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yugoport said:
Had exactly the same issue on my note 10+ (exynos).. after complaining about the issue I saw a post that mentioned that some apps with the permission to display on top was the culprit. In my case, after disabling this permission of dashlane it fixed the problem. Are you using dashlane?
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Hey,
I am using lastpass, which does require the appear on top permission.

Solution:
update 04022020. I finally got rid of the lag. I installed the Samsung Goodlock app from the Galaxy app store and installed the task changer plugin. I then set my task manager to be displayed as a grid. but you can change it to any style.
the Goodlock app and plugin are designed by Samsung. this leads me to believe there is something wrong with the stock animation in the app switcher.

Good fix for task switcher, but it doesn't solve the app pages speed issue. Samsung need to release a fix
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Solved it ! for me, it's definitely 3rd party apps that run in the background. Check your permissions and what has accesses to your phone. For me a block site app that has accessablility access was the culprit.

Spamsung, up to his old tricks, got a nope10 rooted up and have been good, except for all the other spammy DOWNGRADES( samFAIL needs somthing to fkeep you coming back for a new fix) what a twisted guy!
As the sob story goes, if anyone cares to hear the drama from spammy's momma lol
Been on Android 9 and staying, unless spammy forces his spam on me?
So can't search for this problem with Android 9 because everything shows up as note 10 upgrade Android 10, of course when trying to -Android10 it also takes away anything for nope10 results ? so for the past couple hours feels like I am back using my old HTC 4g( that's what I all an upgrade!!) I didn't do anything new just reset the phone because battery ran out, so much lag now ?
Treid changing animation from 1x to none
did not work

Update :
So this happened for a couple days and without any making changes, now today without making any changes everything is back to normal. So my guess is that because of the virus spammy let's the powers that be get inside your phone and spied on creating all this lag, it actually took me initially 7 minutes to type the first part of this message because the lag was so bad.
This is spamsung at his best!
#spamsung for the inside scoop?
I used to have this issue on a nope 8, and I noticed whenever it happened when I had more than say 30+forefox pages open, but now it's happening in the note 10+ saying that ram is using 7.5gb lol
And when in i used a task manager it would show - 1million kb boost to stop apps running and forefox had all that negitve - 1million + kb's on it but now it's showing Firefox with only 189mb but the boost is still at 1m+ lol

I don't know what anybody's talking about with lag this thing's a beast! Try beast mode kernel too little bit of battery loss but **** it who cares it's so damn snappy I can't see straight when I'm playing with my phone

Odd, odd, I have never, ever experienced anything of the sort in any of my samsung devices, since the S3, I currently own a note 10+ running android 10, it behaves exactly as day one, so, the cause must be something not related to official firmwares issued by samsung

Which apps are lagging?
Could scope storage be the culprit?
I'm still on Pie and it remains very fast and rock solid stable phone.
There's a lot I don't like about 10 and 11.
Funny Google is preaching security with their OS "improvements" when Goggle is one of the worst data miners there is.

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[Q] It cannot be that slow

Hello there, first time i write here but been reading a lot!
First, you need to know I own a galaxy s2 s3 s4 (all rooted) and my good friend has a note 3.
Also played a lot with nexus10 and the first galaxy note 10.1
I waited so long to buy the "perfect" tablet. Ipad is out of question even tho we know they are awesome tablet, i am a system administrator and i need Android.
So when i heard about the new note 10.1 2014, i was very existed because i REALLY like my s4 and my friend's note 3.
And i thought the s pen was awesome for a tablet (seeing my kid having fun drawing on their own picture is a +).
Well i convicted my girlfriend we need this, i started reading a lot of reviews and decided to buy because reviews are all saying the tablet was the best to compete vs the ipad.
I bought it brand new on eBay because there was no place i can buy it in Canada.
As soon as i received it, i found it run so damn slow. .. WAY slower than my s4.
I can live with the short battery life, that's not a big deal even tho the 2x quad core was supposed to help that (running on 1.3 while on hold to save battery).
Looks like it is always running on that 1.3ghz cpu now.
I did a factory default reset. .. Then a hard reset, nothing helped.
Runs great Sometimes, but sometimes I am note even able to browse picture on the default gallery. Still no apps installed! !!
My friend with the note 3 came here last night and was amazed to see how the screen has a bad responds to finger but very good with the pen. Also how it freezes and lags.
Now... is it only MY galaxy note ?
Should i send it to Samsung and hope it is going to be OK when i receive it back ?
Is it normal and should be all fixed with kit kat update ?
Or normal... They missed it so i should just throw it away ? If so... What else should i get ?
I very like the aspect. The home/menu/back buttons, the o/s (touch wiz), the nexus 10 was not that great even with kit kat, but runs so much faster.
I don't know what to do, i want a tablet with the s pen, but the hold note 3 is running smoother than my 2014 edition! !!
I guess i need help here !
And as i bought the item from usa eBay, I'll have to pay for the shipping to Samsung if i send them my tablet for repair !
Thank you very much for your help and advice !
Martin L.
Sure you have a problem, ignoring some performance stuff the device is very fast and have leading scores in benchmark
If you can, upload your benchmark scores
SherifMedhat said:
Sure you have a problem, ignoring some performance stuff the device is very fast and have leading scores in benchmark
If you can, upload your benchmark scores
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It all seams to be random. .. Now the gallery works perfectly.
Really looks to be a problem switching from a cpu to the other and stays on the 1.3
Right now, while typing this, i got an error saying the gallery has stopped working! !
Any idea which benchmark i should use ?
See attached is the print screen of a benchmark. .. Perfect score, exactly what i was expecting from this tablet.
But it definitively does not feel like it!
genius312 said:
See attached is the print screen of a benchmark. .. Perfect score, exactly what i was expecting from this tablet.
But it definitively does not feel like it!
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What firmware version is installed on your new Note 2014?
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genius312 said:
Runs great Sometimes, but sometimes I am note even able to browse picture on the default gallery. Still no apps installed! !!
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I have no problems with the gallery app. Before I bought the Note, I had the Xperia Tablet Z for a short time and it was much slower in the Gallery app. My JPEGs usually are about 10 MByte each and browsing hundreds of them works very well on the Note.
Where do i find the firmware ?
Model Number is sm-p600
Android 4.3
Kernel 3.4.39-204073
version jss15j.p600ueubmk1
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Where do i find the firmware?
version jss15j.p600ueub-----mk1
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You are on MK1 which is the latest in US as far as I'm aware.
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You have the current firmware, so that is not the issue. It is possible that you have a corrupted file somewhere that is causing a problem for an app.
To check this:
- Do have an SD card installed? If so, do the problems go away if you remove the card? I've seen cases (although, on earlier galaxy devices, not this one) where a corrupt jpeg file causes the gallery app to run constantly, slowing everything else down.
- You said it is always running at 1.3ghz. That could indicate a problem with an app running all the time in the background and slowing things down. When you are not using it for a while (e.g., at night) the CPU should slow down to deep sleep. If that is not happening and you want to figure which app running and keeping it at 1.3, trying downloading an app called BetterBatteryStats. It will show (after a bit of a learning curve) the CPU time for all your running apps.
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You have the current firmware, so that is not the issue. It is possible that you have a corrupted file somewhere that is causing a problem for an app.
To check this:
- Do have an SD card installed? If so, do the problems go away if you remove the card? I've seen cases (although, on earlier galaxy devices, not this one) where a corrupt jpeg file causes the gallery app to run constantly, slowing everything else down.
- You said it is always running at 1.3ghz. That could indicate a problem with an app running all the time in the background and slowing things down. When you are not using it for a while (e.g., at night) the CPU should slow down to deep sleep. If that is not happening and you want to figure which app running and keeping it at 1.3, trying downloading an app called BetterBatteryStats. It will show (after a bit of a learning curve) the CPU time for all your running apps.
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Thank you for your answer.
No sd card yet and i do not think i will need any. I have enough on my s4
I found the system slow so i did a factory reset from the menus.
It was still slow after so i did a hard reset.
If it is a corrupted file. .. That file is in the core files because the hard reset would have wipe it !
But it makes sense tho since the problem is random.
But every thing should be as smooth as the s4 and the note 3 ?
Not because it had a bigger screen. ..i should feel a little lag switching from photos to photos (or windows to windows) ?
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Not because it had a bigger screen.
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The bigger display area will make a difference. The N3 has a PPI of 386 and a 5.7" display. The N10.1-14 has a PPI of 299 and a 10.1" display. I'm too lazy to compute the actual display area but the N10.1-14's CPU/GPU is pushing at least 40% more pixels to the display.
I should feel a little lag switching from photos to photos (or windows to windows) ?
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The N3's much faster at transitions and app opening/closing than the N10.1-14. If you pinch-zoom to display all your home pages on the N3 it's fast; on the N10.1-14 not so much. I find that within apps the N10.1-14's fine and its performance reflects the high-end h/w. It'll stutter occasionally during a transition or in opening/closing apps but it's still plenty fast; at least to me. Hopefully performance will improve when we get 4.4/M-UX because the CES display units were impressively fast at pinch zooming and transitions.
Samsung's Gallery app has always had occasional indexing problems; especially with large numbers of photos and when cloud services are displayed in the Gallery. The next time it happens turn off Wi-Fi. It should instantly start responding normally. Once the indexing service has caught up the Gallery should be fine (until it indexes again).
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The bigger display area will make a difference. The N3 has a PPI of 386 and a 5.7" display. The N10.1-14 has a PPI of 299 and a 10.1" display. I'm too lazy to compute the actual display area but the N10.1-14's CPU/GPU is pushing at least 40% more pixels to the display.
The N3's much faster at transitions and app opening/closing than the N10.1-14. If you pinch-zoom to display all your home pages on the N3 it's fast; on the N10.1-14 not so much. I find that within apps the N10.1-14's fine and its performance reflects the high-end h/w. It'll stutter occasionally during a transition or in opening/closing apps but it's still plenty fast; at least to me. Hopefully performance will improve when we get 4.4/M-UX because the CES display units were impressively fast at pinch zooming and transitions.
Samsung's Gallery app has always had occasional indexing problems; especially with large numbers of photos and when cloud services are displayed in the Gallery. The next time it happens turn off Wi-Fi. It should instantly start responding normally. Once the indexing service has caught up the Gallery should be fine (until it indexes again).
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True, the N3 is a war machine !
But compared to my S4 then, it should at least be as fast !
I really like my S4, decent speed, never crashes.
Only holding the screen between 2 photos is lagging on the 10.1-14 !
But this is not my concern, the real problem is when it decides to run slower then my hold S2 !
And compared to the first gen 10.1, beside the interface which is way better on the 10.1-14, the speed seams faster on the old one and the touch screen works better with fingers too !
genius312 said:
True, the N3 is a war machine !
But compared to my S4 then, it should at least be as fast !
I really like my S4, decent speed, never crashes.
Only holding the screen between 2 photos is lagging on the 10.1-14 !
But this is not my concern, the real problem is when it decides to run slower then my hold S2 !
And compared to the first gen 10.1, beside the interface which is way better on the 10.1-14, the speed seams faster on the old one and the touch screen works better with fingers too !
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It is what it is my friend. You're running the latest U.S. s/w so unless you're having a h/w issue (doubtful) than the performance you're getting is the performance you're going to get. At least until updates hopefully speed of fluidity. The Tab/Note|Pro's running 4.4/M-UX appear significantly faster than the N10.1-14 and use the exact same h/w so the occasional lag we're seeing is curable with s/w.
Hopefully yes.
Is there any software I can install to see which CPU is running ?
Because when it runs great, I m happy with the little lag... not a big problem
But when it decides to stop, them everything is slow.
I see no updates running, if I empty the ram, it is still using 2.05 out of 3 ! ( I have 2 users)
Even switching from users to the other is slower then what I see on youtube (People showing that fonctionnality).
and WAAAY slower that the old nexus 10 I used.
Maybe the switching from 1 processor to the other is not perfect and gives problem a lot ...
Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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Root and freeze or install all the bloat ware Inc my magazine. Download greenify and hibernate running apps, in developer options turn the animations to 0.5. Or try nova launcher too
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Not sure i understood it all. . But I'll try to decrypt.
I don't want to root it right now as I'm not sure i will keep it !!!
I know Nova launcher and was about to give it a try when i figured out the problem was not only the home screen. ..
Is it normal to be running almost all the time at 2.3gb out of 3 ?
I close all the apps on the 2 users, clear the ram and still running at 2.3-2.4gb
I only saw it once at 1.7!
genius312 said:
Not sure i understood it all. . But I'll try to decrypt.
I don't want to root it right now as I'm not sure i will keep it !!!
I know Nova launcher and was about to give it a try when i figured out the problem was not only the home screen. ..
Is it normal to be running almost all the time at 2.3gb out of 3 ?
I close all the apps on the 2 users, clear the ram and still running at 2.3-2.4gb
I only saw it once at 1.7!
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Yeah that sounds about right. You can go to settings > apps. >all. And click on the apps u don't use or u think could be running in the background and disable them. Also the less screen pages and widgets you have running the better. I'd recommend an app called clean master. It will clean your device. Before I rooted my ram was that hight but after rooting it can as low as 1.2. Generally on 1.5. And rarely goes over 2. Hope this helps
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Yeah that sounds about right. You can go to settings > apps. >all. And click on the apps u don't use or u think could be running in the background and disable them. Also the less screen pages and widgets you have running the better. I'd recommend an app called clean master. It will clean your device. Before I rooted my ram was that hight but after rooting it can as low as 1.2. Generally on 1.5. And rarely goes over 2. Hope this helps
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Se this morning it was at 1.9 Gb used out of 3 ! (2,71 in fact)
I have 3 apps opened now (facebook messenger, VLC et My Magazine) and I m using 2.54 ..... I think it s weird !
I only have 5 apps installed on it.
Also, I use swype to type text (slide my fingers through the keyboard) and sometimes it just doesn't work. I start sliding and it's like it cannot see my finger anymore. Works better with the pen again. Like I said previously, like it the screen has hard time to detect my finger on the screen.
Again, sometimes .. not always !
I think I m gonna see how much it will cost me to send it back to samsung and have it repaired .. I don't think all this is normal.
A lot of people say they bought tablets for 150$ and they works perfectly.
Yes mine does multi user, but at 150 I could have bought 4 of 'em + a lot of accessories !
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Se this morning it was at 1.9 Gb used out of 3 ! (2,71 in fact). I have 3 apps opened now (facebook messenger, VLC et My Magazine) and I m using 2.54 ..... I think it s weird ! I only have 5 apps installed on it.
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Don't confuse "apps" with "processes" and "services." Because of all Samsung's "stuff" (EG: Multi View, S Pen) there are a gazillion open processes running in the background anticipating being needed. If you go in to Task Manager and "clear RAM" you'll see 40-50 processes being closed. You really needn't worry about it because Android dynamically manages memory and if something in the foreground needs memory it'll prioritize what to close in the background. Also, Mali reserves probably 500MB for itself at all times so you never really had 3GB of RAM truly available. Samsung, not being a benevolent company, included 3GB of RAM in the N3 and N10.1-14 for a reason.
In other words, if you're having some type of performance issue it's highly doubtful it's being caused by RAM starvation.
Of course the ram is not the problem... even if there is only 300 mo free, that s enough to manage the program I run.
But I really hate when I cannot swipe to type, when the gallery is so buggy that I cannot browse my pictures ( 10 photos max... not linked with Dropbox or facebook), when I have to wait for the next page in the apps page, when I try to slide the page and it just doesn't t work.. have to do it twice or trice ... When I want to slide down the notifications but I have to try 3-5-6 or 7 times...
Switching pages in the S note take times...sometimes lag but that is not a problem for me... All the others tho really makes me feel like either that tablet is a crap or mine has a problem .
I would sincerely prefere the second
When it s not buggy it works great... but sooooo unstable

Issues with Note 4

I've had my note 4 for a couple weeks now, and I have to say that the phone is not as powerful as I expected. Whenever I run a resource heavy app, the phone experiences severe lag after exiting the app. For instance, the Caustic app, which is a music mixing app, runs descent on my note 4 but after exiting the app the launcher becomes very stuttery and laggy. I loaded the phone up with Nova launcher prime, and it does work better, yet still lags. I have clean master installed, and I've gotton notifications from it a couple times telling me the RAM is above 80% and the CPU is hot.. I've always been under the impression that clearing processes from RAM on Android is a no no, but as a last ditch effort, I went ahead and did it anyway. Over all, I'm not happy with the phone performance. My 2013 nexus 7 performes better, and this is supposed to be a beefier device as far as hardware is concerned.. Should I take the phone back to AT&T?
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What other apps have you seen this with?
As I have not used caustic I cannot say if it does the same.
Is that app caustic 3?
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What other apps have you seen this with?
As I have not used caustic I cannot say if it does the same.
Is that app caustic 3?
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Yes, the app that's causing me the lag is caustic 3. The only other app that had caused the same stutter is Fit Brains Trainer by roseta stone.. Are you having problems too?
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Yes, the app that's causing me the lag is caustic 3. The only other app that had caused the same stutter is Fit Brains Trainer by roseta stone.. Are you having problems too?
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So I tried caustic not sure how long but it does lag the launcher after exiting. (nova launcher)
Also after reboot every thing is running smoothly again and started caustic again and it does not lag after exiting ~5mins of running (maybe I didn't leave it running as long or what not I'm not sure but that's all I can observe so far)
Hope that helps you a bit.
This is exactly why we need the ability to flash custom roms on Samsung devices. The out-of-the-box experience sucks. The phone performs night and day on a custom rom.
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So I tried caustic not sure how long but it does lag the launcher after exiting. (nova launcher)
Also after reboot every thing is running smoothly again and started caustic again and it does not lag after exiting ~5mins of running (maybe I didn't leave it running as long or what not I'm not sure but that's all I can observe so far)
Hope that helps you a bit.
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Thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it. My girlfriend has an AT&T Note 4 as well. I loaded hers up with the caustic app, and had the same laggy results. Yea, sometimes after exiting the app, the lag is so bad I have to reboot, other times a simple screen lock and unlock takes care of it, and other times there is no lag at all. When I was using the touch wiz launcher it caused lag everytime.. Nova launcher is working much better, but still not satisfactory..IMO, if I have what is considered to be one of, if not the most powerful smartphone currently, I shouldn't be dealing with this at all.. I think after this phone I'll stick with nexus devices.. Even though I said the same thing after my Galaxy S4, and somehow got sucked into the hype on this phone..
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Thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it. My girlfriend has an AT&T Note 4 as well. I loaded hers up with the caustic app, and had the same laggy results. Yea, sometimes after exiting the app, the lag is so bad I have to reboot, other times a simple screen lock and unlock takes care of it, and other times there is no lag at all. When I was using the touch wiz launcher it caused lag everytime.. Nova launcher is working much better, but still not satisfactory..IMO, if I have what is considered to be one of, if not the most powerful smartphone currently, I shouldn't be dealing with this at all.. I think after this phone I'll stick with nexus devices.. Even though I said the same thing after my Galaxy S4, and somehow got sucked into the hype on this phone..
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I think it's probably just Samsung bloatware interfering with phone function.
Personally I don't think it is a deal breaker just keep an eye out for those apps it may not be 100% compatible with our phones.
You may want to report the issue to the developer of Caustic. It could just be a software glitch isolated to this phone.
I personally haven't had the chance to see this phone lag at all and I definitely use it very heavily.
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You may want to report the issue to the developer of Caustic. It could just be a software glitch isolated to this phone.
I personally haven't had the chance to see this phone lag at all and I definitely use it very heavily.
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Do you use a cleaner app? I use clean master, and about once or twice a day I get a notification from clean master telling me the phone is preforming poorly, and ram is over %80. This usually occurs when I have a few apps open, and I usually do experience minor lag leading up to this. I allow clean master to wipe the ram, then reboot the phone and all is well for a while. This is very discouraging..
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While a bit counterintuitive to what we have been seeing on windows etc.
This phone is designed to use all of its ram.
It should not lag while doing it and apps that causes it to lag is probably dev error so make note of those apps and keep an eye out for it.
Ram is not being used unnecessarily android purposely stores cached in ram to allow it to load faster.
It is not the app's fault. I made a thread about this same exact behavior a couple weeks ago but not a single person responded. Jittery, laggy performance after exiting a game or other graphics intensive app. Only thing that would get rid of it was a reboot.
I got a PM from Samsung Support about it though which surprised me. I think they may be aware of some type of issue.
It happened for me after two different apps closing so it's not your app. And it doesn't happen after every closing either. The jittery behavior is not limited to the launcher either. Next time it happens open another app and scroll, like the browser. It was terribly choppy.
The good news is Samsung reached out to me which is always a positive sign for fixes.
Techweed said:
It is not the app's fault. I made a thread about this same exact behavior a couple weeks ago but not a single person responded. Jittery, laggy performance after exiting a game or other graphics intensive app. Only thing that would get rid of it was a reboot.
I got a PM from Samsung Support about it though which surprised me. I think they may be aware of some type of issue.
It happened for me after two different apps closing so it's not your app. And it doesn't happen after every closing either. The jittery behavior is not limited to the launcher either. Next time it happens open another app and scroll, like the browser. It was terribly choppy.
The good news is Samsung reached out to me which is always a positive sign for fixes.
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Yea, definitely not the apps fault. I've confirmed this by installing the same app on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy S4; the app runs fine on those two devices without any lag as a result. It may be compatability issues with the newer qualcom chip, or possibly all of the bloatware on the phone weighing things down. These ideas are all speculation on my part. It's good to hear that Samsung is aware of the issue. Please keep us posted on anything new in regards to the issue. Just an FYI, I've replaced Nova Launcher with the Google now launcher, and for the last 3 days the phone has been running remarkably smoother. Hopefully lollipop will fix these issues.. Root would definitely be nice.
norcal61 said:
Yea, definitely not the apps fault. I've confirmed this by installing the same app on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy S4; the app runs fine on those two devices without any lag as a result. It may be compatability issues with the newer qualcom chip, or possibly all of the bloatware on the phone weighing things down. These ideas are all speculation on my part. It's good to hear that Samsung is aware of the issue. Please keep us posted on anything new in regards to the issue. Just an FYI, I've replaced Nova Launcher with the Google now launcher, and for the last 3 days the phone has been running remarkably smoother. Hopefully lollipop will fix these issues.. Root would definitely be nice.
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If I get any updates I'll make sure to inform you all. I'm using Nova and it seems pretty fast. Were you having issues with it that made you switch to Google? Or is Google Launcher just that much better?
Techweed said:
If I get any updates I'll make sure to inform you all. I'm using Nova and it seems pretty fast. Were you having issues with it that made you switch to Google? Or is Google Launcher just that much better?
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I was having some minor issues with Nova Launcher. I was getting random crashes, where Nova itself was actually crashing, which was a first for me. I was also getting some lag while scrolling, opening and closing apps. When I use Nova Launcher, I tweak allot of the settings, so that may have had something to do with it, but I've used Nova Launcher for the last year and a half on my Galaxy S4 w/o any problems.. Google now launcher doesn't have any options for customization of any kind, but it has been very smooth and effective.
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[Q] Note 4 Terrible Lag/Performance

I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
Unfortunately this seems to be a problem that plagues all Samsung android devices. That's why I quit buying Samsung products many years ago. Last week I decided to give them another go with the Note 4 and I do love the phone, but..... it's doing the same things you describe and that I have experienced before. Samsung puts too much bloat that you can't get rid of on the phone and I think that all of that on top of touch wiz just makes for a very poor user experience. I had the droid turbo previously and want to go back to it after only a week with this device.
Dang! I guess my only hope is for Lollipop to make things smoother.
My Note 4 started lagging almost immediately when it was brand new. I brought the device home, ran the initial setup (which did restore most of my google play store apps that I had used on my previous device), and the lag started almost immediately. I spent far too much time trying task killers, phone cleaners, clearing cache, etc., etc. I finally bit the bullet and did a factory reset.
Doing a factory reset really helped a lot. I did make sure to turn off auto update and auto restore in Google Play Store first. After completing the initial setup I manually installed ONLY the apps that I use regularly .
Factory resetting is a bit of a pain, but not really all that bad. I think it is probably required to solve your problem.
Debloating the uneeded preinstalled apps helps too. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294 for instructions on how to debloat the Note 4 without requiring root (or voiding your warranty).
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Alrighty, thanks. I'm working on backing up music and passwords now, and planning on doing a factory reset very soon. And thanks for the link to that debloater software, I'll be sure to try that.
Hardware-related?
Sorry but the Touchwiz is terrible stuff is overblown. I haven't really had any stuttering after months of owning the device. The Note 4 came with the slimmest Touchwiz to date and, as you say, the Note 3 had no problems with performance. Yes, its good to debloat, but what you are experiencing seems to be more serious. The fact that your Antutu benchmark isn't close to where it should be is a red flag. My 910V registers 46680. If a factory reset doesn't work, you may try to return it or contact Samsung to see what options you have available to you.
KamajiH said:
I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
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holy**** i was just browsing around forums and i saw this
i have a note 2 on kitkat and it scores 31000 on touchwiz (Ditto note 4 rom)
amazing performace on note 2 thats why i didnt even feel the need to buy note 3 or 4
i dont think touchwiz is the problem specially for a device like note 4
You could try these things to get better performance
use custom kernel and use high freq (Nadia kernel in your case)
root you device and delete all waste apps from system/app and system/priv-app
OR
flash a deodexed rom
Worth case scenario you may have a slow internal storage causing all the lag and problems in that case backup your data and flash a stock rom and re flash a partition table for your device
this would definately solve your problem (had this problem on tab 2 10.1 and this last method worked for me)
Ashwin Prabhunerurkar said:
holy**** i was just browsing around forums and i saw this
i have a note 2 on kitkat and it scores 31000 on touchwiz (Ditto note 4 rom)
amazing performace on note 2 thats why i didnt even feel the need to buy note 3 or 4
i dont think touchwiz is the problem specially for a device like note 4
You could try these things to get better performance
use custom kernel and use high freq (Nadia kernel in your case)
root you device and delete all waste apps from system/app and system/priv-app
OR
flash a deodexed rom
Worth case scenario you may have a slow internal storage causing all the lag and problems in that case backup your data and flash a stock rom and re flash a partition table for your device
this would definately solve your problem (had this problem on tab 2 10.1 and this last method worked for me)
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Unfortunately, none of these are currently an option because the Verizon Note 4 is currently not rootable and the bootloader is also locked.
Anzion said:
Unfortunately, none of these are currently an option because the Verizon Note 4 is currently not rootable and the bootloader is also locked.
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if it is happening only to you then my guess is it is an hardware problem and get your device replaced
but better backup your device as the verizon people will want to format your device and reflash it before they declare it as a bad device and replace it
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Alrighty, thanks. I'm working on backing up music and passwords now, and planning on doing a factory reset very soon. And thanks for the link to that debloater software, I'll be sure to try that.
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Good luck, hope this works for you. Please let us know if this solves your problem, or not.
Fyi: My Note 4 gets an AnTuTu Benchmark score of 47315 (free app available from Google Play).
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Not sure if this is still an issue, but make sure none of your battery saving functions are active. Settings -> Power -> power saving mode, make sure that's off. Just a thought
KamajiH said:
I am posting here because I've been through countless forums, hearing many suggestions, but none has helped.
My issue, is lag, and performance issues on my Verizon Galaxy Note 4. At first, it was just a hiccup every now and again, which is Touchwiz, and I didn't really mind it. But now, it's to the point where I cannot experience a fully smooth experience. Every window that opens glitches out and stutters, scrolling freezes and jumps, the notification bar freezes and glitches out, keyboard typing is delayed, and Swype is slow and laggy.
So then, I read online that the Note 4 usually scores above 43,000 in AnTuTu benchmark. Mine scored 28,000. I've cleared the cache partition, I've deleted just about every singe app, I've disabled bloatware, I've done almost everything. There are a few things I DON'T want to do, which are:
- Change launchers. I don't want Nova, or anything else. I like Touchwiz, and I don't care about the occasional hiccup.
- Factory reset. I'd like this to be the last resort, since I already have many passwords, settings, pictures, and music stored on this device.
- Change window animation blahblah in developer options.
I'm starting to miss my Note 3. It ran much smoother, and faster even. What are my options from here? I'd greatly appreciate the help.
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I just Antutu'd mine and got around 39,000 . Then I cleared cache and ram and the restarted, . After the test ran faster, can't say twice as fast just faster. The results were 40,0007. According to the comparisons mine was 5 below the listing for the Note 4. the one item that did bother me is that the S5 was listed one model ahead of mine, but 4 models away from the listed Note 4.
In your case there must be apps running that you don't know of. You have to check running apps in the app manager. Just look on the "ALL" listing and turn off any that you can turn off and don't need. Many of them show " Turn off" but it's grayed out which is total bs to me. Plus from some web searching I've read that the new S6 may be bloat free
Lastly, use Greenify- go to settings/assesibility/Greenify
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Doing a factory reset seems to have solved the problem. Also, I didn't sync all my apps over, so that may have caused the problem the first time.
I'm actually scoring good, too. Thank you guys for helping!
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Not sure if this is still an issue, but make sure none of your battery saving functions are active. Settings -> Power -> power saving mode, make sure that's off. Just a thought
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That was the culprit in my case. Huge change that took my model to the top on the list registering 49,987. I'll leave it off for a day or 2 and see what happens to the battery performance. While using the power saver the battery has been stellar. From off the charger at 7:30 am Id have 65% by 7 pm
As far as lag, to get rid of it just set Window, Transition and Animator scale to "off" under Developer options and you should be good to go. I've done that since the S3 days no problem and phone gets waay faster.
So here we go again, it's lagging terribly again. The only different thing I did, was install the negative color notification widget from the Samsung store (which I didn't even do last time), so that can't be why it's lagging. There is literally no explanation.
And yeah, I've tried turning off window animation, and etc. That only got rid of opening window lag. But I'm still lagging hard everywhere else.
I have no lag issues at all. This Note 4 is the smoothest operating Samsung phone that I have ever owned. Here's my results:
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I would send it back to Verizon. Must be a hardware problem I'm guessing. Good luck
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KamajiH said:
So here we go again, it's lagging terribly again. The only different thing I did, was install the negative color notification widget from the Samsung store (which I didn't even do last time), so that can't be why it's lagging. There is literally no explanation.
And yeah, I've tried turning off window animation, and etc. That only got rid of opening window lag. But I'm still lagging hard everywhere else.
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You could try Greenify (free version should be fine) and see which apps it suggests be hibernated. Just don't hibernate anything that generates notifications that you need. This has helped me in the past. Some apps like Facebook are notorious for causing battery drain. I uninstalled FB and use a browser link (saved to my home screen) to check my account when I want.
I have no idea what you guys did to your phone mine flirts with 50,000 on antutu every time and is like butter and runs so so cool
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I have no idea what you guys did to your phone mine flirts with 50,000 on antutu every time and is like butter and runs so so cool
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You're right on the Antutu, mine is about the same.
Maybe who ever has an issue should state on where and what part of the phone
examples-
Internet access and page return speed- connection related
Email access and refresh speed- same as above
Screen swiping speed- Touch wiz, try Nova
Stock apps performance- one's that don't need Int access and ones that do- possibly here could lie the issue
Texting - sending/ receiving ?- with Verizon this is purely connection related
Also, whoever suggested to kill the Face book app , you're 100% right. I use a link now and the whole phone works better
Last- I use the Samsung app- Vitamins. For me, I use is the system cleanup. This goes along with the left menu button clean up and Greenify

How's the RAM management after December update?

Hello, been following the Pixel 3 for quite some time and contemplating changing to the Pixel 3 from Pixel 2. But the RAM management issue is holding me back and since the December update claimed to have solved the RAM management issue, I am wondering how is the fix, any more random closure of spotify and other apps?
tornado6 said:
Hello, been following the Pixel 3 for quite some time and contemplating changing to the Pixel 3 from Pixel 2. But the RAM management issue is holding me back and since the December update claimed to have solved the RAM management issue, I am wondering how is the fix, any more random closure of spotify and other apps?
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It is for the most part eliminated. I've only seen it happen if you have a gazillion apps open and not like before where you had 3 or 4 and it'll refresh or close the first one. I use Spotify on daily basis at work for several hours as I deliver and never had it close on me even after having a lot of apps in the background.
tornado6 said:
Hello, been following the Pixel 3 for quite some time and contemplating changing to the Pixel 3 from Pixel 2. But the RAM management issue is holding me back and since the December update claimed to have solved the RAM management issue, I am wondering how is the fix, any more random closure of spotify and other apps?
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I haven't had any issues on the December build, or previously. The security blog was pretty vague about the depth of the fix. On Spotify, have you checked the size of the cache? It can get really huge depending on which settings you select. Try deleting that cache from within Spotify settings. Mine had grown to over 2GB and I had no idea. It's worth a try. You may already know there were a ton of functional improvements on this last update, even for the P2.
It's definitely better. I haven't had Spotify close on my when playing a game or taking photos like it was previously.
I'm still having ram issues when having YouTube playing in picture in picture mode and taking a picture and typing in Snapchat. That's one of the only problems I've been having. Spotify and Snapchat works a lot better after update. I replicated it with all background apps closed and still same thing.
Doesn't work near like the note 9 i will tell you that. Lets say I have a game 2 apps back and i switch to text or messages and boom i go back and game restarts. On the note 9 i could put it 15 apps back and boom still holds progress
Nguyk said:
I'm still having ram issues when having YouTube playing in picture in picture mode and taking a picture and typing in Snapchat. That's one of the only problems I've been having. Spotify and Snapchat works a lot better after update. I replicated it with all background apps closed and still same thing.
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Snapchat just sucks on Android plain and simple. It's terrible and unusable.
oneandroidnut said:
Doesn't work near like the note 9 i will tell you that. Lets say I have a game 2 apps back and i switch to text or messages and boom i go back and game restarts. On the note 9 i could put it 15 apps back and boom still holds progress
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I second this. It's better but not to the level of Note 9. The Note 9 does have 2 extra gigas of ram so it's not really a fair comparison.
Having no issues whatsoever on mine. What little issues I had before are gone now.
Still closes Pokemon Go when you have more than two apps open, especially the camera.
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I second this. It's better but not to the level of Note 9. The Note 9 does have 2 extra gigas of ram so it's not really a fair comparison.
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Yeah mine actually has 8 gb so it is double the pixel but still would like to see things a little closer in top tier devices
I find that the Dec update fixed a lot of problems with smoothness. It was even smoother after I did a fill fresh install/wipe through the official full rom. Battery seems better too.
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Samsung Galaxy S9 One UI Major Problem

Hi I just upgraded officially my Samsung Galaxy S9 G960W One UI Major PROBLEMS is that:-
1: Whenever you open the camera app by double clicking power button and take instant snaps the camera does not stores any taken picture and simultaneously the camera app freezes and shows 'camera app failed'. Now the camera application is constantly showing this warning and freezes even though I try to open camera normally.
2: The new animations are sometimes fast and snappy just like previous ones but again I feel like these are new and not properly been tested and these animations stuck sometimes in 3rd party applications as INSTAGRAM, Whatsapp, Snap, etc. Honestly, I feel like about this One UI animations as I'm using some cheap 3rd party play store launcher.
Honestly, I want my old Samsung experience (UI) back it's because I never experienced any single problem with that one for 5 months of using this device.
Pros: 1: Experiencing one hour (approximately) improved battery life. 2: Better ram management 3: New animations feel little more snappy than the previous ones. 4: Better notification panel layout and scrolling down of apps for one hand usage.
Final verdict: One UI update desperately needs an update to fix this major camera issue.
I also updated to one ui in 16 january.
Camera and animations don't have any problem, battery life isn't very good, and I have few things here and there that Samsung should fix. I hope february update will fix all bugs and make One UI more stable...
(Galaxy S9 SM-G960F/DS)
Sobiiboy said:
Hi I just upgraded officially my Samsung Galaxy S9 G960W One UI Major PROBLEMS is that:-
1: Whenever you open the camera app by double clicking power button and take instant snaps the camera does not stores any taken picture and simultaneously the camera app freezes and shows 'camera app failed'. Now the camera application is constantly showing this warning and freezes even though I try to open camera normally.
2: The new animations are sometimes fast and snappy just like previous ones but again I feel like these are new and not properly been tested and these animations stuck sometimes in 3rd party applications as INSTAGRAM, Whatsapp, Snap, etc. Honestly, I feel like about this One UI animations as I'm using some cheap 3rd party play store launcher.
Honestly, I want my old Samsung experience (UI) back it's because I never experienced any single problem with that one for 5 months of using this device.
Pros: 1: Experiencing one hour (approximately) improved battery life. 2: Better ram management 3: New animations feel little more snappy than the previous ones. 4: Better notification panel layout and scrolling down of apps for one hand usage.
Final verdict: One UI update desperately needs an update to fix this major camera issue.
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Through none of the Pie betas has a camera problem like that been reported that I know of. I'm not sure your problem requires an update. Have you cleared the system cache since the uodate? That's something that's always recommended after or immediately before an uodate.
Yes I did cleared cachce right after the update.
Sobiiboy said:
Yes I did cleared cachce right after the update.
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Factory reset
Factory reset is not the solution for these problems and I didn't buy the premium product to keep doing factory resets.
Sobiiboy said:
Factory reset is not the solution for these problems and I didn't buy the premium product to keep doing factory resets.
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Yes it is after a major OS upgrade, welcome to Android
*Detection* said:
Yes it is after a major OS upgrade, welcome to Android
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No its not.
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Factory reset
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Bro factory reset isn't the solution for everything, some people are finding even more bugs after resetting their device... These unnecessary corrupted files from the old software will likely be gone after clearing the cache.

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