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I will update this thread as I found issues.
1. Middle of downloads the phone turned off and refused to switch on. Taking the battery out enabled restarting the phone again.
2. Despite of master reset/factory reset the phone is really laggy. Freezing applications made Defy very responsive but under 2.2.2 it appears no difference at all. (Second factory reset seems brought back somme life to my phone now...)
3. Definitely something is causing an annoying delay at startup even though the phone appears to be ready to use.
4. I have noticed once after a restart the capacitive buttons didn't light up for 1-2 minutes even though I was using the phone. The LauncherPro is installed and I'm suspecting that is the culprit here.
5. Once a number is dialed the phone locks itself. This is rather inconvenience when you need immediately use the key pad to select options. (20 June 2011)
Guidelines - 20 June 2011
I decided to write a guideline for Defy users. The information provided here have already been mentioned by others but normally not in one place. Please follow the steps below every time you flash a new ROM.
1. Master Reset (Whether you like this step or not this is required to do. Imagine upgrading a windows machine, it would be simply a mess in most cases. Any pro users would tell you always to do a clearn install. The same principle with Android applies)
2. Discharge the battery (It seems flashing a ROM messes up the battery calibration. Drain the battery to the point it won't boot then recharge it from the wall socket)
3. Avoid Restoring Apps (Only if is a must. Since Android 2.2 is different to 2.1 many apps might not work very well with the same settings restored from 2.1. Some vendors also offer different version for Android 2.2 or higher. Installing from market is best practice)
4. Avoid using widgets (They are simply battery eaters. Avoid them if they don't provide useful functionality to you)
5. Don't trust all vendors (Many apps placed on Android Market is written by programmers with no experience at all. A badly written app not only drains more battery but also takes up more precious RAM than it should. The less RAM you have, the slower the phone performs)
6. Don't keep large number of emails in your inboxes (They simply take up more memory)
7. Charge your mobile from wall socket when you can. It really does make a difference and also a recommended method by Motorola.
8. Put the Mobile Network to 2G when you can. It does save considerable amount of battery.
9. Switch off the phone once per day for 30 seconds before switching it on again.
Any chance to get hands on SBF for this release
Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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4. I have noticed once after a restart the capacitive buttons didn't light up for 1-2 minutes even though I was using the phone. The LauncherPro is installed and I'm suspecting that is the culprit here.
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I notice on my handset (UK T-Mobile eclair) that the capacitive buttons sometimes dont light up when holding the phone landscape. I think there is a light sensor somewhere which detects the ambient light and adjusts the capacitive button lighting.
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Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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That will get you the motorola update software.
During the update the .sbf is downloaded. We need to get the sbf, however it is deleted once the update has finished. I think this happens when the motorola software asks to "reboot phone, connect usb and verify update".
Please, if anyone does the update make sure to find the .sbf file and copy it somewhere safe before the update is verified. Then post to xda of course
Olly
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I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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I'm not sure either, I reverted to 2.51 and did the update form that point.
Anyone installed CM over 3.4.2_177-3?
Olly
kashavsehra said:
I notice on my handset (UK T-Mobile eclair) that the capacitive buttons sometimes dont light up when holding the phone landscape. I think there is a light sensor somewhere which detects the ambient light and adjusts the capacitive button lighting.
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Thanks for that. I can actually reconfirm the issue. Last night when I was setting my alarm, with no lights in the room, I noticed once again the capacitive buttons' led were off. I was helding the phone in portrait and I know for sure this problem wasn't there in 2.1 because I always set my alarm after I turn the lights off (Bedroom's). When I press the Home Key to come out of the Alarm app the capacitive buttons lit up again.
binodnepal said:
I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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If the msu is compiled by Motorola then I'm sure you won't be able to upgrade. The .msu can contain many other smaller installers that can do all the checking, exactly the way the update program does. Your only solutuion is to revert back to Motorola's stock ROM and give it a try.
Two more very annoying Defy/Froyo issues:
1) You can't disable the lockscreen anymore, so prepare for a lot of annoying swiping. Yes, you can get rid of the slider with an app called "No Lock," but this will also disable your security lock (pin code or pattern) which leaves your phone wide open.
2) The new gallery has more eye candy but less functionality, and it got slower too. If you open the folder list you can't read long folder names anymore. Is there is a way to run the old 2.1 gallery on Froyo?
I found the gallery the worst bit. So poor, I can't believe they let it go out like that. Runs like a dog.
I feel embarrassed for Motorola. Or I would if they were not working hard every day making their great hardware under-perform!
Seriously what a phone once CM is on it!
Olly
Use quickpic off the market, best gallery around
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Two more very annoying Defy/Froyo issues:
1) You can't disable the lockscreen anymore, so prepare for a lot of annoying swiping. Yes, you can get rid of the slider with an app called "No Lock," but this will also disable your security lock (pin code or pattern) which leaves your phone wide open.
2) The new gallery has more eye candy but less functionality, and it got slower too. If you open the folder list you can't read long folder names anymore. Is there is a way to run the old 2.1 gallery on Froyo?
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As far as I'm concerned Motorola has degraded the phone and I'm not too sure if that is legal or not. I'm referring to the apps Motorola developed such as the video player and the gallery that you pointed out, not the Android itself. The additional Task Manager that was shipped with 2.1 in US is a welcome.
I have found my defy is performing slower, unless those claim Defy performs better with Android 2.2 has some settings that I don't. I ended up installing SetVSel to speed thigns up. It seems to me I'm getting 1/4 less juice out of my battery. I can reconfirm it once I play music on it for a couple of hours.
Not wanting to sound negative all the time, here are some positive things I found so far. I'm very happy with this update because now I got all my emails working on my handset which was important to me which missed the feature for the past 6 months. The browser appears to work very smoothly in most cases. I haven't used the Tasks app yet but that is another welcome addition as I always have a need for such features on portable devices. Other positive things about Android is to thank google not Motorola anyway. The slightly improved dialer worth just mentioning about it.
If Motorola refuses to give us Gingerbread then I hope they provide an update to fix some minor issues that either annoying or impacting the user experience soon enough.
I gotta say I'm pretty surprised about all the issues people are facing with the Froyo update everywhere. I had the french update installed which was one of the first available in Europe before moving on to the leaked 2.3.3 and it was smoother than ever. No bug at all except for the space touch getting a bit crazy while typing a text a few times. I didn't have many applications installed. A few people mentioned the update's fine as long as you don't have much installed on the phone but it starts getting extremely laggy when you keep installing more and more applications. After a factory reset there shouldn't be any lags though !
MrBelter said:
Use quickpic off the market, best gallery around
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QuickPic would be the best gallery app if it would let us change the grid size (the thumbnail previews are too big now) and if it had "all photos" and "all videos" views. Unfortunately QuickPic only does folders.
lotfib said:
I gotta say I'm pretty surprised about all the issues people are facing with the Froyo update everywhere. I had the french update installed which was one of the first available in Europe before moving on to the leaked 2.3.3 and it was smoother than ever. No bug at all except for the space touch getting a bit crazy while typing a text a few times. I didn't have many applications installed. A few people mentioned the update's fine as long as you don't have much installed on the phone but it starts getting extremely laggy when you keep installing more and more applications. After a factory reset there shouldn't be any lags though !
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Thank you for your post. In my experience there was a noticeable performance difference between 2.1 and 2.2.2 before a single application was installed. One theory to why some people are happy with the performance and others are not could be down to different components used in Defy. No one knows for sure if all Defy around the globe use exactly the same components or not. As you pointed out installing apps appears to effect the performance so we can conclude those that are not experiencing performance decrease are not power users.
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QuickPic would be the best gallery app if it would let us change the grid size (the thumbnail previews are too big now) and if it had "all photos" and "all videos" views. Unfortunately QuickPic only does folders.
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I am confused, all my photos and videos are in folders anyway and all the previews load like lightning so i fail to to see the problem, it is better than any default gallery whichever way you look at it.
Anyway only issue i can find with the retail 2.2 is how low highest screen brightness setting seems to be, the display is really hard to read outside now.
If you have a hundred pictures scattered over ten folders, would you want to tap into those folders one by one to browse all your photos?
Just like there's a unified inbox for mails from many accounts so you don't have to jump from one mailbox to the next, the stock gallery has a unified pictures view (all pictures in one grid) for all your folders.
If you want to swipe through lots of pictures from a bunch of different folders, having them all in one grid beats having to open all the different folders one by one.
If QuickPic would have the same unified picture view and custom picture grid sizes I would throw the stock gallery out. While QuickPic is working on it (are they?) I'll keep both apps.
The problem with the capacitive buttons that not lighting up is worse than I thought. It happens all the time, it doesn't light up and the only way to make it to work, when it gets really bad, by locking the phone (power switch) and unlocking it again.
The battery life noticeably shortened after the update. What I have done today was to completely discharge the battery to the point it doesn't turn on. Recharged it fully again without turning it on and from the wall socket. I'll report back if there was any improvements on Monday.
I also uninstalled VSel and set it to default CPU speed again. Despite of freezing so many apps and services the start up is really slow and I really feel the lag with the phone.
Another Defy/Froyo bug:
Dial *#*#4636#*#* to get into a service menu. From there battery_history/network_usage would tell you network traffic per app since last boot/unplugged/all time.
In Eclair all data was counted. In Froyo it usually doesn't count anything.
Its finally here! The first final release for Nougat 7.0
For now its through SPFT. If you want the OTA you'll have to wait until next month.
http://community.umidigi.com/thread-6292-1-1.html
Enjoy!
OTA "is working" for me...
I have to download .zip file from UMI DIGI site copy to SD card and use "Local update" in phone update menu. No personal data will be removed.
Hi i am using version from october 20161017.
Must i first upgrade to 20161721 and then upgrade via SPFT to Nougat?
No need for that. Flash it from your current rom.
Battery consumption
Hi. What about battery consumption in 7?? It looks more battery consumption for me ....
Is the camera any better?
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Hi. What about battery consumption in 7?? It looks more battery consumption for me ....
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Because this is the first official version of Nougat the optimisation for Wakelocks isn't the best. Also when you upgrade to a totally new Android version you need a at least 3 charge cycles where you go from 100% to 5% before you charge your device up to 100% again. One thing I've done due to the poor Wakelock management is using greenify, it works even better if you have a rooted device.
dkzg said:
Is the camera any better?
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The camera on umi super will always be rubbish. I haven't noticed any real change.
Creedo4Life said:
The camera on umi super will always be rubbish. I haven't noticed any real change.
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The lens is not the software is bad. What about third party camera apps? Are they still black?
dkzg said:
The lens is not the software is bad. What about third party camera apps? Are they still black?
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The dark camera issue has somewhat been resolved in third party apps. I noticed a bug that still persist using the selfie camera on snapchat, taking photos looks fine but if you try video recording the screen goes very dark like the previous dark camera issue.
If the poor camera was just down to software don't you think Umi would've fixed it already? I mean i had this phone since July 2016 and not much has changed. I never got this device for the camera though but for the reasonable hardware for a very cheap price.
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The dark camera issue has somewhat been resolved in third party apps. I noticed a bug that still persist using the selfie camera on snapchat, taking photos looks fine but if you try video recording the screen goes very dark like the previous dark camera issue.
If the poor camera was just down to software don't you think Umi would've fixed it already? I mean i had this phone since July 2016 and not much has changed. I never got this device for the camera though but for the reasonable hardware for a very cheap price.
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Try Open camera app on play store. It stopped twitching of the picture. But it was dark. If it's not great!
Im not an expert but i think the problem is that they take the camera module from i.e. Samsung Galaxy s6 and some new processor from MediaTek and can't make them fully compatible...or something like that...
i am asking here because in the umi forums no one seems to be interested in responding to questions.
does anyone still has android 6 installed and rooted? i would need the apk: mtkquicksearchbox
this is the grey searchbox enabled on the homescreen by default. with this one you could search and find everything and i have no idea why i now have to cope with that bad google one.
Any root methods for Android 7.0 of UMi Super?
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i am asking here because in the umi forums no one seems to be interested in responding to questions.
does anyone still has android 6 installed and rooted? i would need the apk: mtkquicksearchbox
this is the grey searchbox enabled on the homescreen by default. with this one you could search and find everything and i have no idea why i now have to cope with that bad google one.
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I have bad news for you. THe Mtkquicksearchbox doesn't work on Nougat 7. Before switching over i saved the APK and when i tried to install it after i upgraded from N6 to N7 the app just won't install.
I believe it has to do with something on the writing permissions on the system. Even after rooting my phone and giving rw permission in es file explorer it wouldn't work.
I prefer the mtk quicksearch over google and hope this might come back in a later software upgrade by Umi but i highly doubt they will put it back in future releases of N7, i could be wrong though.
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I have bad news for you. THe Mtkquicksearchbox doesn't work on Nougat 7. Before switching over i saved the APK and when i tried to install it after i upgraded from N6 to N7 the app just won't install.
I believe it has to do with something on the writing permissions on the system. Even after rooting my phone and giving rw permission in es file explorer it wouldn't work.
I prefer the mtk quicksearch over google and hope this might come back in a later software upgrade by Umi but i highly doubt they will put it back in future releases of N7, i could be wrong though.
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thank you for this answer, i suspected something like this.
Sim Card Not Detected
I updated my Android Umi Super through the local method.
But now my simcards cannot be detected.
I have tried re-booting...cold boots, Airplane Mode On Off
Simcard removal... Another Local Install
Etc.
What Should I do.
Updated to the latest firmware, now I'm getting constant soft reboots...
Tried through local OTA and the soft reboots started. Redownloaded and managed to get it to flash through local OTA again in between soft reboots, no change. Full factory reset, no change.
Tried updating through SPTool, still getting the same soft reboots every minute or so.
Any ideas out there?
Pls so I shouldn't download the v7.01...... Again if there will be problem right.
Microphone not working well after update
Since my upgrade to android 7 on my UMI super I have found a few bugs:
1.) Banking app is not working any more
2.) When I do a video chat with my friends they can't hear me at all and mostly hear white noise. This is the same on skype, messenger, watsapp calling etc. This was not present in android 6. I have reset my phone and still both problems exist Anyway to revert back to android 6?
Have they fixed the crap/no gps lock issues??? Or is that just a pipe dream???
My phone is smooth for the most part.
Some minimal stuttering when scrolling.
Sometimes I have stutters when swiping down or opening notifications, using multitasking. It's still less than competition.
What bothers me the most are the slowdowns, there are menus and UI elements that consistently have like 15fp/s.
I have these in certain locations or apps.
1. When I have the old open with menu pop-up with apps shown in a vertical list
2. Google Photos when in landcape and it seemingly switches to different color space
3. Some older gen apps
I haven't been able to find anyone else who confirms experiencing these issues too.
Google support was useless.
Try disabling Digital Wellbeing. It's helped a lot of Pixel users.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/12/18616747/google-digital-wellbeing-slower-pixel-performance
try going back to the latest version of oreo. I find it smoother and the battery seems more steady on the decline.
aoaleman said:
Try disabling Digital Wellbeing. It's helped a lot of Pixel users.
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/12/18616747/google-digital-wellbeing-slower-pixel-performance
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I already did that, it improved the responsiveness and delay, but all of these issues still stand.
I can't understand if I am truly the only one, because I can't find nobody complaining, except when there was that huge delay, but I don't have such extreme case.
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try going back to the latest version of oreo. I find it smoother and the battery seems more steady on the decline.
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I don't really want to do that, there are many improvements from Pie, that I really favor. Did You go back to Oreo because You were experiencing the issues, how long ago was this?
Try factory resetting then restoring. I'm on pie and have no stuttering whatsoever
I don't really want to do that, there are many improvements from Pie, that I really favor. Did You go back to Oreo because You were experiencing the issues, how long ago was this?[/QUOTE]
I got my pixel 2xl in November and liked oreo but upgraded after a few weeks to pie. Had it going for a little over a month and battery was the first thing I noticed having the operating system take up second most battery next to screen on time. Too many features and background stuff happening I saw no benefit for so I decided to try Pie ROMs to customize the volume rocker menu and just have a cleaner gapps with less pie stuff. After a few weeks of different ROMs I just went back to stock Oreo and haven't looked back. My curiosity of trying pie and customizing ROMs was fulfilled and now I'm just keeping what I found the safest for everyday when shuffling apps and relying on battery.
beezar said:
Try factory resetting then restoring. I'm on pie and have no stuttering whatsoever
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I already did that. Did not help at all. I have the same issues in Safe Mode too.
Can you try to record a 4K video, then play it back on Google Photos, and as it's playing swipe up?
Nobody asked the most important things:
1: stock, unrooted?
2. Beta Q or official Pie?
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Nobody asked the most important things:
1: stock, unrooted?
2. Beta Q or official Pie?
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+1 ^^^^^^^^^^^
If 100% stock, there's probably not much you can do except a factory reset. If you've already done that with little to no improvement, then maybe you just have an aging device.
If rooted, I'd suggest a full wipe, 100% clean flash of the latest factory image (leave the -w intact).
My 2 XL is one of the earliest released devices (Oct 17) and it still runs like new. Of course I'm rooted and flash a fresh factory image monthly (or every other month) and only charge my battery for 15% to 95% (no empirical evidence that it absolutely helps, but it doesn't hurt).
richii0207 said:
Nobody asked the most important things:
1: stock, unrooted?
2. Beta Q or official Pie?
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Az Biker said:
+1 ^^^^^^^^^^^
If 100% stock, there's probably not much you can do except a factory reset. If you've already done that with little to no improvement, then maybe you just have an aging device.
If rooted, I'd suggest a full wipe, 100% clean flash of the latest factory image (leave the -w intact).
My 2 XL is one of the earliest released devices (Oct 17) and it still runs like new. Of course I'm rooted and flash a fresh factory image monthly (or every other month) and only charge my battery for 15% to 95% (no empirical evidence that it absolutely helps, but it doesn't hurt).
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Stock official Pie. Had the issue for all the versions I ever had, since I started noticing the issues ~1 month after purchase. Purchased as new in 2018 November.
Not related to aging, maybe defective hardware. No physical or otherwise abuse. I take extra care not to overcharge the battery, or discharge.
It runs "like new" to me as well, but I have stutters in certain places, and it's uncertain to me if it's even a hardware defect, maybe it's software bug.
I have performed a factory reset. And I also tried opting in for Android Q beta, and then opting out, to make the phone download a new factory image. But I only ever did it with the phone, without rooting or anything similar.
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Stock official Pie. Had the issue for all the versions I ever had, since I started noticing the issues ~1 month after purchase. Purchased as new in 2018 November.
Not related to aging, maybe defective hardware. No physical or otherwise abuse. I take extra care not to overcharge the battery, or discharge.
It runs "like new" to me as well, but I have stutters in certain places, and it's uncertain to me if it's even a hardware defect, maybe it's software bug.
I have performed a factory reset. And I also tried opting in for Android Q beta, and then opting out, to make the phone download a new factory image. But I only ever did it with the phone, without rooting or anything similar.
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Still under the 1 year warranty, why not get an RMA and get a replacement?
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Still under the 1 year warranty, why not get an RMA and get a replacement?
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I'm just not convinced that this is indeed a hardware issue.
I've seen users talking about this, a little bit, but none have taken this seriously, so maybe they just get used to it.
For comparison OnePlus 3T and Samsung S8 is so much more laggy compared. But I didn't get the low frame rates in earlier mentioned areas.
Edit: To further explain the reason for not RMA'ing. If there's no proof that the issue is RMA'able, then I'm just going to waste my and their time on something that can't be fixed.
Edit2: There are people saying that Samsung phones don't lag and stutter, yet I have not seen a single Samsung phone that doesn't lag and stutter. Yes, even the S10. Pixel 2 XL is smoother than the S10. But while it is smoother, I experience these frame rate slow downs, I do not see on other phones.
Xypleth said:
I'm just not convinced that this is indeed a hardware issue.
I've seen users talking about this, a little bit, but none have taken this seriously, so maybe they just get used to it.
For comparison OnePlus 3T and Samsung S8 is so much more laggy compared. But I didn't get the low frame rates in earlier mentioned areas.
Edit: To further explain the reason for not RMA'ing. If there's no proof that the issue is RMA'able, then I'm just going to waste my and their time on something that can't be fixed.
Edit2: There are people saying that Samsung phones don't lag and stutter, yet I have not seen a single Samsung phone that doesn't lag and stutter. Yes, even the S10. Pixel 2 XL is smoother than the S10. But while it is smoother, I experience these frame rate slow downs, I do not see on other phones.
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My RMA suggestion was based on your comment that this was first noticed soon after purchase as well as on multiple versions.
Only you know what's best for you and your device; we're just offering suggestions for your to consider :good:
Az Biker said:
My RMA suggestion was based on your comment that this was first noticed soon after purchase as well as on multiple versions.
Only you know what's best for you and your device; we're just offering suggestions for your to consider :good:
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I appreciate it, very much.
So You're saying, that You don't experience any stutters or lags, that I mentioned, or that I didn't..?
And You are not counting in, but notice the lags and stutters that get introduced, when you use the phone while apps are installing or updating, yes?
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I appreciate it, very much.
So You're saying, that You don't experience any stutters or lags, that I mentioned, or that I didn't..?
And You are not counting in, but notice the lags and stutters that get introduced, when you use the phone while apps are installing or updating, yes?
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The only time I experience stutters/lag with my 2 XL is when I refuse to stop using Froyo era apps, or when messing with custom Roms / kernels. The lag usually goes away once I clean flash the factory image, or delete the 30 year old apps
I've been very fortunate with most of my devices. Maybe I'm not as adventurous in my flashing, beta testing, or experimenting as others,
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The only time I experience stutters/lag with my 2 XL is when I refuse to stop using Froyo era apps, or when messing with custom Roms / kernels. The lag usually goes away once I clean flash the factory image, or delete the 30 year old apps
I've been very fortunate with most of my devices. Maybe I'm not as adventurous in my flashing, beta testing, or experimenting as others,
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Can I ask You to help test out a few places?
Here is a example of the effect I experience: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Rj1VLkESQfonsaVAA
The Google Photos place has this, some older gen apps as in the video above.
And when opening a download, or getting the old gen app list, which looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/qhRZE09.png
To replicate:
1. Open Google app
2. Open any link which has a picture that can be downloaded
3. Long press on a picture to download
4. Press on notification of downloaded file message, it should open in "Chrome" with pathway file:///storage...
5. Click on "share" button
Xypleth said:
Can I ask You to help test out a few places?
Here is a example of the effect I experience: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Rj1VLkESQfonsaVAA
The Google Photos place has this, some older gen apps as in the video above.
And when opening a download, or getting the old gen app list, which looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/qhRZE09.png
To replicate:
1. Open Google app
2. Open any link which has a picture that can be downloaded
3. Long press on a picture to download
4. Press on notification of downloaded file message, it should open in "Chrome" with pathway file:///storage...
5. Click on "share" button
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Absolutely, the "Open with" dialog is the single lagging place in all the Pixel UI.
Always experienced this in every version, stock / Q, with or without custom kernels.
Xypleth said:
Can I ask You to help test out a few places?
Here is a example of the effect I experience: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Rj1VLkESQfonsaVAA
The Google Photos place has this, some older gen apps as in the video above.
And when opening a download, or getting the old gen app list, which looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/qhRZE09.png
To replicate:
1. Open Google app
2. Open any link which has a picture that can be downloaded
3. Long press on a picture to download
4. Press on notification of downloaded file message, it should open in "Chrome" with pathway file:///storage...
5. Click on "share" button
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I went to imgur, clicked link to download pic, clicked on download file, popped right open.
Did this a few times, no lag at all.
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Absolutely, the "Open with" dialog is the single lagging place in all the Pixel UI.
Always experienced this in every version, stock / Q, with or without custom kernels.
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That is reassuring, but still troubling. Thanks for telling me.
I have exactly the same experience, I also tried Q and it was the same.
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I went to imgur, clicked link to download pic, clicked on download file, popped right open.
Did this a few times, no lag at all.
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Popped right open, means that you have a default set for the app which opens the download.
What stutters here is the menu that shows apps to : open the file with
Az Biker said:
The only time I experience stutters/lag with my 2 XL is when I refuse to stop using Froyo era apps, or when messing with custom Roms / kernels. The lag usually goes away once I clean flash the factory image, or delete the 30 year old apps
I've been very fortunate with most of my devices. Maybe I'm not as adventurous in my flashing, beta testing, or experimenting as others,
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What setup of ROM, kernel and mods do you have?
Originally posted on Samsung members. This issue is now critical. If you care about this issue, I have created an issue under Samsung Members. Please post your experience and issues there and hopefully it gets the attention of Samsung
https://r1.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note/Android-10-Lag-on-Note10/td-p/3320184
Has anyone else seen noticeable Lag after updating to Android 10 in the galaxy s10 or Note10+.
Using the samsung launcher, there is lag when scrolling through the app drawer and multitasking.
I have tried,*
cleaning my dalvik cache
Removing my SD card
Updating all apps for android 10
And performing the built in device care optimization*
I think a performance update is needed to take care of this.
The multitasking lag becomes worse during the day until phone is restarted.*
Update 31012020: I finally decided to factory reset my phone. This did not work. I use nova launcher and uninstalled it as well. Lag still remains.
I have found that the lag only appears after about 20+ apps are in the recent apps menu. However this issue did not happen in Android 9. What is also interesting my moms s10 exhibits the same behaviour.
Further I have gone into developer options and when I set Animator level from 1x to 0x, the lag is gone. This is the only solution. However the downside to this is that instead of animations of loading wheels or progress bars, there is just a static circular arrow. I hope Samsunf fixes this issue.
Have had zero lag since updating to android 10. Never had any lag on pie either. Maybe its just an issue with your phone
I had alot of lag, everything lagged actually. The latest TMobile update fixed it for me.
I have had lag. Just opening simple apps like what's app and trying to start typing.
I have the very same issue on my Exynos Note 10. After the Android 10 update, app launcher and app switcher lag like it's 2006.
Lag in Note 10 +
Hi, just updated to 10 and it's really poor. Lag everywhere. Mostly between apps pages. But mostly everywhere. I'm in NZ with Spark Network. Personally feel this has to be fixed with an update.
moiza67 said:
Originally posted on Samsung members. This issue is now critical. If you care about this issue, I have created an issue under Samsung Members. Please post your experience and issues there and hopefully it gets the attention of Samsung
https://r1.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note/Android-10-Lag-on-Note10/td-p/3320184
Has anyone else seen noticeable Lag after updating to Android 10 in the galaxy s10 or Note10+.
Using the samsung launcher, there is lag when scrolling through the app drawer and multitasking.
I have tried,*
cleaning my dalvik cache
Removing my SD card
Updating all apps for android 10
And performing the built in device care optimization*
I think a performance update is needed to take care of this.
The multitasking lag becomes worse during the day until phone is restarted.*
Update 31012020: I finally decided to factory reset my phone. This did not work. I use nova launcher and uninstalled it as well. Lag still remains.
I have found that the lag only appears after about 20+ apps are in the recent apps menu. However this issue did not happen in Android 9. What is also interesting my moms s10 exhibits the same behaviour.
Further I have gone into developer options and when I set Animator level from 1x to 0x, the lag is gone. This is the only solution. However the downside to this is that instead of animations of loading wheels or progress bars, there is just a static circular arrow. I hope Samsunf fixes this issue.
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Had exactly the same issue on my note 10+ (exynos).. after complaining about the issue I saw a post that mentioned that some apps with the permission to display on top was the culprit. In my case, after disabling this permission of dashlane it fixed the problem. Are you using dashlane?
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yugoport said:
Had exactly the same issue on my note 10+ (exynos).. after complaining about the issue I saw a post that mentioned that some apps with the permission to display on top was the culprit. In my case, after disabling this permission of dashlane it fixed the problem. Are you using dashlane?
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Hey,
I am using lastpass, which does require the appear on top permission.
Solution:
update 04022020. I finally got rid of the lag. I installed the Samsung Goodlock app from the Galaxy app store and installed the task changer plugin. I then set my task manager to be displayed as a grid. but you can change it to any style.
the Goodlock app and plugin are designed by Samsung. this leads me to believe there is something wrong with the stock animation in the app switcher.
Good fix for task switcher, but it doesn't solve the app pages speed issue. Samsung need to release a fix
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Solved it ! for me, it's definitely 3rd party apps that run in the background. Check your permissions and what has accesses to your phone. For me a block site app that has accessablility access was the culprit.
Spamsung, up to his old tricks, got a nope10 rooted up and have been good, except for all the other spammy DOWNGRADES( samFAIL needs somthing to fkeep you coming back for a new fix) what a twisted guy!
As the sob story goes, if anyone cares to hear the drama from spammy's momma lol
Been on Android 9 and staying, unless spammy forces his spam on me?
So can't search for this problem with Android 9 because everything shows up as note 10 upgrade Android 10, of course when trying to -Android10 it also takes away anything for nope10 results ? so for the past couple hours feels like I am back using my old HTC 4g( that's what I all an upgrade!!) I didn't do anything new just reset the phone because battery ran out, so much lag now ?
Treid changing animation from 1x to none
did not work
Update :
So this happened for a couple days and without any making changes, now today without making any changes everything is back to normal. So my guess is that because of the virus spammy let's the powers that be get inside your phone and spied on creating all this lag, it actually took me initially 7 minutes to type the first part of this message because the lag was so bad.
This is spamsung at his best!
#spamsung for the inside scoop?
I used to have this issue on a nope 8, and I noticed whenever it happened when I had more than say 30+forefox pages open, but now it's happening in the note 10+ saying that ram is using 7.5gb lol
And when in i used a task manager it would show - 1million kb boost to stop apps running and forefox had all that negitve - 1million + kb's on it but now it's showing Firefox with only 189mb but the boost is still at 1m+ lol
I don't know what anybody's talking about with lag this thing's a beast! Try beast mode kernel too little bit of battery loss but **** it who cares it's so damn snappy I can't see straight when I'm playing with my phone
Odd, odd, I have never, ever experienced anything of the sort in any of my samsung devices, since the S3, I currently own a note 10+ running android 10, it behaves exactly as day one, so, the cause must be something not related to official firmwares issued by samsung
Which apps are lagging?
Could scope storage be the culprit?
I'm still on Pie and it remains very fast and rock solid stable phone.
There's a lot I don't like about 10 and 11.
Funny Google is preaching security with their OS "improvements" when Goggle is one of the worst data miners there is.
Hello.
I updated my S20 to 3.0 One Ui and i have two problems.
Navigation bar gestures are slower then usual and opening apps too.
And why background on app drawer are not transparent?
Talentooman said:
Hello.
I updated my S20 to 3.0 One Ui and i have two problems.
Navigation bar gestures are slower then usual and opening apps too.
And why background on app drawer are not transparent?
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I have the same problem with a S20 Plus after switching to Android 11. Laggy when switching from applications to Home. A little lag when opening applications on the Home section. I tried a hard reset, wipe cache partition but no change. It is possible to change the firmware to another country. Maybe we can solve the problem.
Yesterday updated fine. Had a problems with big lagging but today everything is perfect and smooth without any changes from my side.
It's big update so I made a factory reset
One of the first things I do any Android is turn off all animations in Developer Options.
Do the same on the PCs.
A need for speed.
So did I. But this is not a solution. Did you pay a lot of money for this phone to go into Developer Option and force your phone to work better? It's not like that? So it's not right what Samsung is doing with these updates. And on One Ui 2.5 I had the same lag.
It is very strange that many do not have this problem.
RenikSK said:
Yesterday updated fine. Had a problems with big lagging but today everything is perfect and smooth without any changes from my side.
It's big update so I made a factory reset
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I reset the phone from Recovery Mode, I gave wipe cache partition and I still had lag. I hope it's a software problem. Do you think this lag comes from a hardware problem?
See what the cpu load is when it's doing this.
Turn animations see if it helps or not.
Does it happen in safe mode?
blackhawk said:
See what the cpu load is when it's doing this.
Turn animations see if it helps or not.
Does it happen in safe mode?
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It behaves the same way in Safe Mode. I switched all animations to 0.5. I hope it will be resolved at the next update.
LeeView011977 said:
It behaves the same way in Safe Mode. I switched all animations to 0.5. I hope it will be resolved at the next update.
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See if it's using excessive cpu or ram resources when that happens... if so track it down.
There may be something you missed, play with it.
Pay attention to any power management that is active, a known source of gremlins.
This is why when I have a fast, stable OS I like, I leave it be.
LeeView011977 said:
I reset the phone from Recovery Mode, I gave wipe cache partition and I still had lag. I hope it's a software problem. Do you think this lag comes from a hardware problem?
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Really dont know. Any changes today?
blackhawk said:
See if it's using excessive cpu or ram resources when that happens... if so track it down.
There may be something you missed, play with it.
Pay attention to any power management that is active, a known source of gremlins.
This is why when I have a fast, stable OS I like, I leave it be.
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I checked the processor and everything is ok. Resources remain the same. It still has lag in transitions.
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My device is S20+ Exynos Indian.
Have exactly the same problems.
Samsung always f#kc things up with gesture navigation, I mean seriously how hard is to leave it transparent ff$.
Lag while using swipe gestures is happening for me on Nova launcher. I never use one ui launcher.
I guess samsung is still lagging behind other OEMs when it comes to third party launcher support for gesture navigation.
agentsandy007 said:
My device is S20+ Exynos Indian.
Have exactly the same problems.
Samsung always f#kc things up with gesture navigation, I mean seriously how hard is to leave it transparent ff$.
Lag while using swipe gestures is happening for me on Nova launcher. I never use one ui launcher.
I guess samsung is still lagging behind other OEMs when it comes to third party launcher support for gesture navigation.
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I was Nova Launcher prime user for a year, but i use gestures and on One UI 2.5, gestures was super snappy, super fast but now on 3.0, i feel like is lagging, like animation is 10 milisecound longer, and i hate it.
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I checked the processor and everything is ok. Resources remain the same. It still has lag in transitions.
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So if you disable all animations is it ok?
I never saw the point in them especially if the machine is fast.
blackhawk said:
So if you disable all animations is it ok?
I never saw the point in them especially if the machine is fast.
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It works faster but it is not normal for an expensive phone to work forced by certain settings. To give you an example of how big the difference is, my wife has a OnePlus 5T and it goes faster than my phone ...
LeeView011977 said:
It works faster but it is not normal for an expensive phone to work forced by certain settings. To give you an example of how big the difference is, my wife has a OnePlus 5T and it goes faster than my phone ...
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Animations by their very nature always slow down a fast machine which is why I always disable them.
Backup all data now. When Androids crash many times the only warnings you get are slow performance and subtle stability issues.
The next boot could be the last on that load. Normally Androids are very stable... if it's a good load.
Try a network reset. Double check all settings and clear system and Samsung apks data as needed. You could globally clear settings but you might as well do a full reload at that point.
You can try running SD Maid to see if it gets rid of some of the junk.
You could try something I normally never recommend, a hard reset. It may not help at all or the issue will reoccur if it's an apk or settings issue to begin with.
If the OS has been heavy used or has had large firmware updates done, it may be that time.
It only takes one bad install/uninstall to screw up an OS. If the load is older then 6 months now might be a good time... nothing like a clean OS with only the apks you use and like loaded.
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Animations by their very nature always slow down a fast machine which is why I always disable them.
Backup all data now. When Androids crash many times the only warnings you get are slow performance and subtle stability issues.
The next boot could be the last on that load. Normally Androids are very stable... if it's a good load.
Try a network reset. Double check all settings and clear system and Samsung apks data as needed. You could globally clear settings but you might as well do a full reload at that point.
You can try running SD Maid to see if it gets rid of some of the junk.
You could try something I normally never recommend, a hard reset. It may not help at all or the issue will reoccur if it's an apk or settings issue to begin with.
If the OS has been heavy used or has had large firmware updates done, it may be that time.
It only takes one bad install/uninstall to screw up an OS. If the load is older then 6 months now might be a good time... nothing like a clean OS with only the apks you use and like loaded.
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The phone was activated on December 7. When opened, run One Ui 2.5. He had the same problems. I thought upgrading to One Ui 3.0 would solve the problem. But that didn't happen. I also did a Hard Reset. No change.
LeeView011977 said:
The phone was activated on December 7. When opened, run One Ui 2.5. He had the same problems. I thought upgrading to One Ui 3.0 would solve the problem. But that didn't happen. I also did a Hard Reset. No change.
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So the phone was ok on 2.5?
Could downgrade it back to 2.5 if so.
Probably too late to return it; if not do so!
Otherwise having Samsung look it over be the best bet.
If it's a carrier phone, time to start digging into them to make it right.
Sorry to hear of this...
Upside is you get to practice your assertiveness skillset. You can never have too much of that.
blackhawk said:
So the phone was ok on 2.5?
Could downgrade it back to 2.5 if so.
Probably too late to return it; if not do so!
Otherwise having Samsung look it over be the best bet.
If it's a carrier phone, time to start digging into them to make it right.
Sorry to hear of this...
Upside is you get to practice your assertiveness skillset. You can never have too much of that.
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Nope. And on 2.5 he did the same. Do you think it's a motherboard problem?
On the other hand, is it really normal to always keep a phone with 0.5 x animations?