Hi I'm planning to buy one for my next phone.
Is this worth it?
I'm limited by the price or I would go for the A70
I'm very pleased with this phone, only the camera is a little disappointing, coming from S8.
I guess 2 to 1 pixel binning doesn't work very well in 2d. A70 (and A51) have 4 to 1. S-series have larger pixels on the sensor, with only 12 MP more detail and less noise.
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I'm very pleased with this phone, only the camera is a little disappointing, coming from S8.
I guess 2 to 1 pixel binning doesn't work very well in 2d. A70 (and A51) have 4 to 1. S-series have larger pixels on the sensor, with only 12 MP more detail and less noise.
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That can be fixed via Software improvement.
But I'm thinking about the future development of this phone,,
I mean, will we get ROM and other supports by the Devs in the future...
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Wait for A51, it'll come out soon if it already isn't in your country. Better cameras and what's more important better fingerprint sensor.
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That can be fixed via Software improvement.
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Maybe, but I doubt it will happen. There were some camera updates already and it didn't improve much.
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But I'm thinking about the future development of this phone,,
I mean, will we get ROM and other supports by the Devs in the future...
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Devs don't seem to be very interested in supporting this phone for a number of reasons. So I'm not expecting any good custom roms soon.
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Maybe, but I doubt it will happen. There were some camera updates already and it didn't improve much.
Devs don't seem to be very interested in supporting this phone for a number of reasons. So I'm not expecting any good custom roms soon.
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Changed my mind ...
I'm going to Nokia 7.2
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I bought it today, dont care about camera at all. What i need is good screen, and this phone have it. Never Xiaomi again, my Mi 9 Lite had issue with stupid touch delay on edges of the screen had to return it.
Lack of custom roms suck but i can live with One UI after debloating.
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hi all xda users
i want to buy a cellphone for gift giving to someone
i want to know is it good choice ? or i need to find other choice with the same price ??
s27moto said:
hi all xda users
i want to buy a cellphone for gift giving to someone
i want to know is it good choice ? or i need to find other choice with the same price ??
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Hi there. I've been using the phone for about a month. (1.5GB 13mp version)
You can ask me anything about it. So far everything runs really smooth and I'm quite pleased with the camera (and quite dissappointed with the stock camera app).
What do you need to know?
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Hi there. I've been using the phone for about a month. (1.5GB 13mp version)
You can ask me anything about it. So far everything runs really smooth and I'm quite pleased with the camera (and quite dissappointed with the stock camera app).
What do you need to know?
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can you able to play hd games for example asphalt?
can you share some photo capture with stock camera app with no edit
iPp350z said:
quite dissappointed with the stock camera app.
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What camera app are you using?
firthy said:
What camera app are you using?
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How can I change lock password or knockcode I don't know where to change it
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firthy said:
What camera app are you using?
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Open Camera (you can find it here on XDA) and the full version of Camera FV-5. Both work well but sometimes you have to take a few shots to adjust the exposure correctly.
Thanks, will look into them, phone should arrive this week.
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Hi there. I've been using the phone for about a month. (1.5GB 13mp version)
You can ask me anything about it. So far everything runs really smooth and I'm quite pleased with the camera (and quite dissappointed with the stock camera app).
What do you need to know?
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Is it possible to root it? What about battery endurance? You have Mediatek version? Thanks.
Hello iPp350z,
Do you test the GPS? Because i'm between K10 (K420N)and LG Zero (H650E). And on test here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/
LG H650E have little more accurate GPS.
But K10 look better
Thank you!
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Is it possible to root it? What about battery endurance? You have Mediatek version? Thanks.
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I'm using KingRoot and it roots just fine but I have the Snapdragon 410 version. Battery life is about a day and a half for me and I use it quite often.
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Hello iPp350z,
Do you test the GPS? Because i'm between K10 (K420N)and LG Zero (H650E). And on test here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/
LG H650E have little more accurate GPS.
But K10 look better
Thank you!
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Sure, no problem, I'll test it. Any specific app that you prefer? From my experience the GPS locks almost instantly and is quite accurate but I haven't done any specific tests.
Yeah, it looks way better than the H650E and it also has a bigger screen while being almost the same size. That was the main reason I bought it. The camera also takes great photos in daylight but night photos are terrible.
Well I have the t-mobile (US) version, and it has ups and downs.
UP:
1) The 1.5 GB of ram helps keep things snappy.
2) It actually received security updates. I'm. Only 2 months behind the Nexus phones, which is pretty good for a carrier branded phone.
3) Display is nicely bright.
4) SD card support
5) Removable battery.
6) $165.
DOWN:
1) 8 MP camera,
2) No USB OTG support
3) I've had 3 times where the phone audio didn't work at all. Had to reboot to get it back.
4) Screen size a little.large for me to type in landscape.
The only one I care about is the call audio issue...
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Yes , i have call audio issue too, i have to reboot the phone everytime
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Its good phone but its LG Security is too tight. Fastboot mode crackin is difficult
Hi guys! I have a black lg v10 and I'm total satisfied but after I saw op 3 in reviews I liked it so much.
Does it worth to update it from v10? Please tell me your opinions.
Thank you.
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Hi guys! I have a black lg v10 and I'm total satisfied but after I saw op 3 in reviews I liked it so much.
Does it worth to update it from v10? Please tell me your opinions.
Thank you.
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Depends. V10 is an excellent phone but I guess the freedom that OP3 provides in terms of rooting and customization is better than V10. I upgraded from Note 4 for the same reason.
How is the camera m8?
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its been just 20 days since the launch and we have over a couple hundred threads with close to a million views. i guess that qualifies the worth of it.
so if u want a phone with awesome development, this is it after nexus of course.
and yeah camera is good too. m not a photomaniac but the overall performance i've gotten up until now doesn't leave me wanting more.
Camera, screen & sound ... LG
Interface, processor & dev ... Op3
You takes your pick
Thx for the fast answers friends. Can the camera shoot in 16:9 format without dropping megapixel?
Also the no sd card support is a big minus for me but 64gb sounds good.
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Camera, screen & sound ... LG
Interface, processor & dev ... Op3
You takes your pick
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Honestly.. The OP3 camera is much better than the V10
*Until you count video quality LOL*
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Thx for the fast answers friends. Can the camera shoot in 16:9 format without dropping megapixel?
Also the no sd card support is a big minus for me but 64gb sounds good.
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Yes it drops the resolution when shooting in 16:9. But that being said I think the still image quality is very good.
humzaahmed155 said:
Honestly.. The OP3 camera is much better than the V10
*Until you count video quality LOL*
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Really the still camera shots are better that v10? Video quality not good? Because of bad ois?
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Really the still camera shots are better that v10? Video quality not good? Because of bad ois?
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I wouldn't say better but they are very close and I can't pick a winner between them. I think the sub par video quality is due to software issues which can be fixed in future updates. But this is just speculation.
Not worth it. Wait until they fix all bugs (which are many).
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Hey guys,
Having been here for sometime, I find development of our device is very slow. But there is progress. I mean the fingerprint was resolved, root was resolved. Almost all critical requirements are stable or near to stable.
Keeping that aside, may I ask why VoLTE is not available in any custom ROM? While it works perfectly with stock considering the fact that stock is actually near to stock Android.
With my previous device(Redmi note 3), a wonderful device, VoLTE bug was solved by restoring the correct Radio, Firmware and the EFS partition (mentioning so that it might become useful).
Will that method work for our device? I mean has anyone tried that? Or should we wait for official source release from Lenovo or is it that we've live without VoLTE ?
Sorry for the long post, Thanks for your patience.
Hi, we have Volte code in Lineage 14.1 intial builds.. but later its Gone..!
dont know why.. hope someone answers your question.. !
Not sure if developers are aware of it since majority won't use VoLTE. In the case of Redmi note 3, it's popularity in the Indian market (demanding Reliance Jio) forced devs to find a fix.
Well clearly that's not the case for P2. As we lack popularity and most ROMs are ported rather than built from scratch (I assume. pl correct me if I'm wrong). As a result no one has actually gone into it. If Lenovo has not released the source code then restoring some partition related the radio bands from stock ROM should solve the issue right? Atleast that was the case in RN3.
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Not sure if developers are aware of it since majority won't use VoLTE. In the case of Redmi note 3, it's popularity in the Indian market (demanding Reliance Jio) forced devs to find a fix.
Well clearly that's not the case for P2. As we lack popularity and most ROMs are ported rather than built from scratch (I assume. pl correct me if I'm wrong). As a result no one has actually gone into it. If Lenovo has not released the source code then restoring some partition related the radio bands from stock ROM should solve the issue right? Atleast that was the case in RN3.
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I am also skeptical to buy p2.The development is not great while RN3 has the best development I guess.Thats why I am stuck in between rn 4 and p2.
If you're crazy for developing then P2 is not for you. I prefer not to do any mods as of now cuz I'm doing all my experiments on RN3
So I bought this having no plans for development... Root yes... But custom ROMs... Nah... RN3 keeps me busy with that.. having said that, I wouldn't prefer RN4 just for the fact that it has better development. Look for other features too.. like the battery and display for instance... And camera too... Honestly I completely disagree with the fact that many complain the camera sucks... I don't really see a reason why as in its a Sony exmor sensor with an f2.2 aperture. Yes it's an f2.2 aperture so low light will be bad it's obvious. But under normal lighting, or sun it's perfect top notch.
Only feature they missed out was an image stabilizer. They could have added any image stabilization tool but then.. for the price it's pretty much over featured I'd say.
Goodluck
This is actually my first phone in a long time that I have no desire to root.
No bloatware to get rid of and have a nice non-root as blocker.
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If you're crazy for developing then P2 is not for you. I prefer not to do any mods as of now cuz I'm doing all my experiments on RN3
So I bought this having no plans for development... Root yes... But custom ROMs... Nah... RN3 keeps me busy with that.. having said that, I wouldn't prefer RN4 just for the fact that it has better development. Look for other features too.. like the battery and display for instance... And camera too... Honestly I completely disagree with the fact that many complain the camera sucks... I don't really see a reason why as in its a Sony exmor sensor with an f2.2 aperture. Yes it's an f2.2 aperture so low light will be bad it's obvious. But under normal lighting, or sun it's perfect top notch.
Only feature they missed out was an image stabilizer. They could have added any image stabilization tool but then.. for the price it's pretty much over featured I'd say.
Goodluck
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*F2.0
reality1234 said:
*F2.0
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Yehp f2.0 my bad... 2.2 is for the front one
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Yehp f2.0 my bad... 2.2 is for the front one
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I am actually deciding which to buy.This is for 13k at Flipkart but development is worrying me so I May go for note 4.What do you suggest?
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I am actually deciding which to buy.This is for 13k at Flipkart but development is worrying me so I May go for note 4.What do you suggest?
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Like I said, I wouldn't normally put features above development, but considering this phone specs features and having used it, I'd definitely suggest P2.
But then there are other factors..
1. Bored to bones with MiUI
2. Redmi feels cheaper and delicate (not sure if I'm alone on this). Holding my RN3 and P2 I could easily pick P2.
3. Camera.. MiUI camera app is ugh.. there's no need for explaining I literally hate it.
4. I'm enjoying P2 without any mods.. not evenroot. Clearly not my type.. but i was able to blend in..
That pretty much sums it up. Posts are bit lengthy because I've been through and did a lot of thinking... Hope I was able to help..
Bottom line, you want development go for RN4 else P2 however you can pretty much stay without rooting.
Another option is recommend is the zuk z2
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Like I said, I wouldn't normally put features above development, but considering this phone specs features and having used it, I'd definitely suggest P2.
But then there are other factors..
1. Bored to bones with MiUI
2. Redmi feels cheaper and delicate (not sure if I'm alone on this). Holding my RN3 and P2 I could easily pick P2.
3. Camera.. MiUI camera app is ugh.. there's no need for explaining I literally hate it.
4. I'm enjoying P2 without any mods.. not evenroot. Clearly not my type.. but i was able to blend in..
That pretty much sums it up. Posts are bit lengthy because I've been through and did a lot of thinking... Hope I was able to help..
Bottom line, you want development go for RN4 else P2 however you can pretty much stay without rooting.
Another option is recommend is the zuk z2
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Thanks
I an getting more battery, amoled display,fast charging with fast charger and almost stock rom.Thats why I am leaning towards p2.AND i personally like p2'a design.Hope development catches up because 2 devs are here doing all the work for this device.I actually kinda feel sad that p2 didn't sell much.Lenovo should have advertised it.RN4 isn't that great in front of this device.And Xiaomi hasn't even released the sources for RN4 still it's so well developed.I really want this device,but I am a guy that flashes roms like every week.Trying out different roms is my passion:silly:.Had it been Moto P2 instead of Lenovo p2,You could have seen a lot more sales
Hello.
I have my P2 for a month, it is the first phone I do not try to root !!
I would like that LENOVO is a true follow-up on this P2. Better than they did to finalize Nougat 7.0.
As said above, if it to a default is the lack of photo stabilizer.
Can I expect a pass on Android 8.0 :fingers-crossed: ... A dream ?
Is there anybody working on "VOLTE Patch" ???
I have some questions plz answer these -
1. Does it have 2.5 D glass
2. How good is the display i.e. are blacks deep like Samsung phones considering it has an amoled display
3. How is the build quality?Had any scratches
4. How good is development for this phone ,I mean I have Mi4 and still is well developed Can I expect these to be developed for at least 2 - 3 years.
5.Is camera that bad ?
1. No.
2. IMO yes.
3. Superb. No wiggle room anywhere.
4. TBH quite bad at the moment compared to other devices. It seems like progress is being made although very slowly. The stock ROM is decent enough to warrant using it in the meantime though.
5. It's bad. God... So bad.
The display is amazing, i didn't want to purchase another Amoled screen ever again since the Samsung Galaxy Nexus but this phone is worth it.
Even though the build is great with an all metal build.. you should still get a case and screen protector to keep it shiny.
I'm sure development will get much better, there is no rush. After reading around the forums it seems the Roms are usable.. but hey.. it is a lot better than the Dev for the Zenfone Max. They have troubles with no offline charging and phone doesn't turn on when battery reach 0%, so users have to keep it above 5% in order to not semi brick it. This device don't have those bugs.. so that's good. :laugh:
Also another good thing is that they have numerous Roms and am glad that they update the Lineage 13 Roms too, but Stock Rom is just as fine.
Until Lenovo fully stops updating soon; probably by September 2018.. using Custom Roms would be ideal to update when it happens. That would be my suggestion.
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1. No.
2. IMO yes.
3. Superb. No wiggle room anywhere.
4. TBH quite bad at the moment compared to other devices. It seems like progress is being made although very slowly. The stock ROM is decent enough to warrant using it in the meantime though.
5. It's bad. God... So bad.
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Hey, Thanks for clarifying
Wmateria said:
The display is amazing, i didn't want to purchase another Amoled screen ever again since the Samsung Galaxy Nexus but this phone is worth it.
Even though the build is great with an all metal build.. you should still get a case and screen protector to keep it shiny.
I'm sure development will get much better, there is no rush. After reading around the forums it seems some Roms are usable.. but hey.. it is a lot better than the Dev for the Zenfone Max. They have troubles with no offline charging and phone doesn't turn on when battery reach 0%, so users have to keep it above 5% in order to not semi brick it. So i see that this device don't have that so that's good. :laugh:
Also anotjer good thing is that they have numerous Roms and am glad that they update the Lineage 13 Roms too, but Stock Rom is just as fine to not use any custom Roms. I am sure development will get even better.
Until Lenovo fully stops updating soon; probably by September 2018.. using Custom Roms would be ideal to update when it happens. That would be my suggestion.
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Hey, Thanks bro
But I think Redmi note 4 which retails as same price has many more developers and roms and much more engagement.Thats why I am a little worried to buy this.Here I saw just 2 developers doing all the work.I respect their work.But still we are here lacking kernels etc.
Do u think lenovo will continue providing updates till September 2018.I don't think so.
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Hey, Thanks bro
But I think Redmi note 4 which retails as same price has many more developers and roms and much more engagement.Thats why I am a little worried to buy this.Here I saw just 2 developers doing all the work.I respect their work.But still we are here lacking kernels etc.
Do u think lenovo will continue providing updates till September 2018.I don't think so.
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Good luck with the Redmi
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Good luck with the Redmi
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No I ordered p2 , amoled display,fast charging,better speakers,better battery attracted me so I didn'tt order redmi.It will arrive tomorrow.Welcome your new member
reality1234 said:
No I ordered p2 , amoled display,fast charging,better speakers,better battery attracted me so I didn'tt order redmi.It will arrive tomorrow.Welcome your new member
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Good to hear.
I got mines about a week ago.. am waiting on the bootloader unlock.
Wmateria said:
Good to hear.
I got mines about a week ago.. am waiting on the bootloader unlock.
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Hey can you tell me one more thing.Is the notification led RGB or single colored?
reality1234 said:
Hey can you tell me one more thing.Is the notification led RGB or single colored?
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You can set the color yes.
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You can set the color yes.
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One more thing is the home button made up of plastic or glass ?Are there any scratches on home button?
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One more thing is the home button made up of plastic or glass ?Are there any scratches on home button?
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It feels like plastic. No scratches.
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Are there any scratches on home button?
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No. This also works as fingerprint reader so I do not imagine it could work scratched.
i ordered my p2 yesterday.
really looking forward to my new phone.
let's hope development will be as awesome as for moto g 2014.
hplgonzo said:
i ordered my p2 yesterday.
really looking forward to my new phone.
let's hope development will be as awesome as for moto g 2014.
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Bro I have still not bought it. I want to but Development isn't picking up.Buggy roms are there.Moto and redmi phones have a much better Development.This is a great device:crying:
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Bro I have still not bought it. I want to but Development isn't picking up.Buggy roms are there.Moto and redmi phones have a much better Development.This is a great device:crying:
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From a technical perspective it seems like a great device indeed. But you are correct. Moto & Redmi (I guess Huawei too) are more widely-spread. However (speaking for me and the local market) compared to the best available version of Moto G5, this phone has slightly better technical specifications (+1gb ram) for the same price.
Dude, I really hope, that I will enjoy this phone as much as my old G2 and my ancient Galaxy S. :fingers-crossed:
Hi all! It's time to change my old Nexus 5 and I'm looking to buy an OP6 or a S9 due to its smaller dimensions.
Thing is I don't like Samsung's personalizations as I heard it slows down very quickly.
Here in Italy I could get an used S9 for 400€. Is it worth to get it with the specific intent of using it only with LineageOS? How does it perform and what am I going to miss from stock android?
Thank you!
Jeeza said:
Hi all! It's time to change my old Nexus 5 and I'm looking to buy an OP6 or a S9 due to its smaller dimensions.
Thing is I don't like Samsung's personalizations as I heard it slows down very quickly.
Here in Italy I could get an used S9 for 400€. Is it worth to get it with the specific intent of using it only with LineageOS? How does it perform and what am I going to miss from stock android?
Thank you!
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Performance wise, S9 performs really well upto this point. I got it since launch and there were only minor drawbacks in the launcher, which were easily removed by installing pixel launcher, and now everything feels smooth. I dont think there is a need for using LOS rom just for speed because you'll lose the great features of samsung.
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Performance wise, S9 performs really well upto this point. I got it since launch and there were only minor drawbacks in the launcher, which were easily removed by installing pixel launcher, and now everything feels smooth. I dont think there is a need for using LOS rom just for speed because you'll lose the great features of samsung.
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Which features you think I would miss the most?
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Which features you think I would miss the most?
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The features from your camera, I dont think gcam camera is any better than samsung stock. You would also lose any Knox related apps such as secure folder, samsung pass, etc. For me, I dont think there is a need to root now, atleast when it is still receiving software updates .
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The features from your camera, I dont think gcam camera is any better than samsung stock. You would also lose any Knox related apps such as secure folder, samsung pass, etc. For me, I dont think there is a need to root now, atleast when it is still receiving software updates .
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are u kidding? GCam is way better than samsung stock , i have s9 and Gcam installed..i know what i am talking about
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are u kidding? GCam is way better than samsung stock , i have s9 and Gcam installed..i know what i am talking about
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No you don't. Samsung's proprietary image libraries and enhancements are better than any gcam port will achieve.
Not saying gcam is bad but stock is quite a bit better on Samsung Experience compared to gcam.
also to OP: Note you probably won't be able to use the variable apeture OR the iris scanner to unlock your phone. Also as much of a meme as it is VoLTE also isn't supported on LOS.
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No you don't. Samsung's proprietary image libraries and enhancements are better than any gcam port will achieve.
Not saying gcam is bad but stock is quite a bit better on Samsung Experience compared to gcam.
also to OP: Note you probably won't be able to use the variable apeture OR the iris scanner to unlock your phone. Also as much of a meme as it is VoLTE also isn't supported on LOS.
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so..u are saying that my eyes are ****ed up if i see that photos taken with Gcam are better in every way ..and the eyes of many others see the same results...i don`t know man...maybe is something wrong with your eyes....just saying
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so..u are saying that my eyes are ****ed up if i see that photos taken with Gcam are better in every way ..and the eyes of many others see the same results...i don`t know man...maybe is something wrong with your eyes....just saying
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Yeah, pretty much. Even inside the GCam thread for the s9 there are plenty of people saying it's not as good as stock. It's one of the reasons why I haven't jumped ship from Samsung Experience yet.
Also, more vibrant color != better photos. They might LOOK better but what I look for in a smartphone camera is color accuracy. If you like saturated hdr+ overblown shots so be it, to each their own.
When i bought the S8, I was hoping that the dev comunity could after some month port an AOSP rom on it but nothing stable really happend. It's a shame because I always prefered stock roms. Then the s9 came with de Treble project and this was for me the best feature that could ever been done.
You have everything that you could wish :
- Sweet design of the galaxy serie with the infinit display and for me the most beautifull overall body design (without the f*****g notch)
- Very great battery life (it easily last the day without have to charge during the day)
- The best performances, smoothness.
- No bugs at all
I always said that the galaxy series had the most complete phones in the market. But TouchWizz was the point where i always been frustrated about. With LOS, i'm ready to say that the S9 is probably the best phone you can get on the market.
Btw, don't worry about the camera's quality. It's still good even whitout samsung's camera framework.
Peace !
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are u kidding? GCam is way better than samsung stock , i have s9 and Gcam installed..i know what i am talking about
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The GCam Im talking about is the one from gapps, not the gcam ported from pixel 2 which has HDR+ capability. I agree GCam with hdr+ is superior when it comes to contrast and details, but you dont get it when you are in LOS. That's what Im referring to.