Two weeks ago I found a TMO G960U laying on the sidewalk. I brought it home, charged it and waited for someone to call it so I could give it back. Well no one ever called so i guess its ok to try to use it. Its not blacklisted, it is however blocked on TMO. But id be using it on att.
Its sim locked and it also has FRP on. Its running tmo december security patch
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themow said:
Two weeks ago I found a TMO G960U laying on the sidewalk. I brought it home, charged it and waited for someone to call it so I could give it back. Well no one ever called so i guess its ok to try to use it. Its not blacklisted, it is however blocked on TMO. But id be using it on att.
Its sim locked and it also has FRP on. Its running tmo december security patch
G960USQS7CSK3
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so u literally "found" a phone and made minimal attempt to return it to its rightful owner (you could try contacting the carrier) that you claim isnt blacklisted but yet it doesnt work on its originsl carrier (sounds blacklisted to me) as well as it has frp on which is there for exactly this reason and you want someone to help disable the security and unlock it so you can use it urself?
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Yep I found it. And there is a difference between blocked and blacklisted.
I've been a member here for 8 years. I'd use a throw away account if I was doing anything shady.
Move along troll
Wow...did I just read this correctly? You actually called Elliwigy a troll? You must be new to XDA....do the right thing and take the phone back to Tmobile.
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Wow...did I just read this correctly? You actually called Elliwigy a troll? You must be new to XDA....do the right thing and take the phone back to Tmobile.
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haha and it gets better, hes now saying when he does shady stuff he just makes a fake account to do it lol
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so u literally "found" a phone and made minimal attempt to return it to its rightful owner (you could try contacting the carrier) that you claim isnt blacklisted but yet it doesnt work on its originsl carrier (sounds blacklisted to me) as well as it has frp on which is there for exactly this reason and you want someone to help disable the security and unlock it so you can use it urself?
awesome sauce
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there is a major difference between blacklisted and carrier locked. i agree that the OP should call TMO and give them the IMEI so that they can then reach out to the rightful owner. From there, they would have to turn it into the police to allow reclamation to occur within the limits of the law. After the required time allotted by local laws elapses, and the phone is then returned to the finder, if not the original owner, it can then be considered legally owned and therefore unlockable etc etc etc. The police station will issue paperwork showing that it has been released to the person who turned it in and that would satiate me regarding offering help to unlock. Short of that, we will not help the OP do anything with this phone.
@themow we can definitely offer assistance in cases like these, but XDA does not support usage of phones when ownership is a grey area. There are laws in every state regarding things like this, and we do not condone actions that bypass said laws
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Yep I found it. And there is a difference between blocked and blacklisted.
I've been a member here for 8 years. I'd use a throw away account if I was doing anything shady.
Move along troll
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Unsure how your local laws work there are but here if you hand things in and the owner doesn't claim them in three months they become your legit property.
Once I found a newish bike and contacted the shop with the serial number to look up who bought it.
Shop was hopeless, took it to the police station, gave them shop details.
To my dismay 3 months later cops called saying come get it.
Anyway that's what I'd do, at least then your conscience would be free.
Ended up giving the bike to some addict (already got 4 bikes) but was bummed the shop didn't record serial numbers.
If you decide not to return it the procedure is to flash it using Odin but last June Samsung implemented something called KnoxGuard which can remotely lock misplaced devices (like iPhones).
I'm sure you've heard about people tracking devices & getting the law involved, as unlikely as that may be it could contain pictures priceless to the owner.
Good luck
I found a phone in a park. I tried charging in order to see if any owner info was available. It's been a while, but I think it wouldn't power up.
It was a Verizon phone, so I turned it into a Verizon store. I figured the carrier could find to whom it belonged.
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I found a phone in a park. I tried charging in order to see if any owner info was available. It's been a while, but I think it wouldn't power up.
It was a Verizon phone, so I turned it into a Verizon store. I figured the carrier could find to whom it belonged.
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you should have turned it in to a Sprint store, just to mess with them totally kidding, what you did was spot on. Youll never be able to claim ownership of the phone that way, but if you had no want in owning it anyways, then que ser a ser a?
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you should have turned it in to a Sprint store, just to mess with them totally kidding, what you did was spot on. Youll never be able to claim ownership of the phone that way, but if you had no want in owning it anyways, then que ser a ser a?
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Yeah, I think it was a Samsung. I just knew it wasn't mine and someone would be wanting their phone back. I would hope someone would do the same if they found mine.
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Yeah, I think it was a Samsung. I just knew it wasn't mine and someone would be wanting their phone back. I would hope someone would do the same if they found mine.
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I think im safe saying this on behalf of everyone who has ever lost a phone and specifically from those of us at XDA, mods or not, thank you. Im the kind of guy who will stop my car and help people push a stalled vehicle, and i bet you are too. Just 2 weeks ago, i stopped and helped a lady put gas from a gas can into her vehicle because she couldnt get the spring loaded top to work in her gas filler spout. I ended up with gas on my hands and my next stop was the grocery store to buy vegetables for a soup i was planning for dinner. Having gas on your hands makes veggie shopping far less pleasurable than without LoL
anyways, actions like this are appreciated. Thank you again
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I think im safe saying this on behalf of everyone who has ever lost a phone and specifically from those of us at XDA, mods or not, thank you. Im the kind of guy who will stop my car and help people push a stalled vehicle, and i bet you are too. Just 2 weeks ago, i stopped and helped a lady put gas from a gas can into her vehicle because she couldnt get the spring loaded top to work in her gas filler spout. I ended up with gas on my hands and my next stop was the grocery store to buy vegetables for a soup i was planning for dinner. Having gas on your hands makes veggie shopping far less pleasurable than without LoL
anyways, actions like this are appreciated. Thank you again
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I agree! The Golden Rule applies in every facet of life! :good:
Holy Crap "themow" ive been looking for that phone for months
can you please send it back to me
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I recently found my Evo that I had lost several months ago and had replaced with Insurance from Sprint. It's been deactivated by Sprint and I want it reactivated by Sprint so I can give to my sister. Will they let me do that? Or will they only allow me to have one activated at a time for some stupid corporate-gain reason?
when you report a phone stolen or lost sprint blacklist the ESN preventing anyone from activating it again. This is in place to prevent insurance fraud and dissuade anyone from stealing your phone (more so the former).
I doubt sprint will activate your lost phone on a different account.
Won't hurt to call them and tell them you "found your lost phone" and see where it goes from there.
If you speak to a supervisor and just be totally honest and sincere about what happened, they have the discretion to remove the block...
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I thought I read somewhere that Sprint only gives a bad esn if the phone was stolen, not lost.
However, I read it somewhere on xda, and you all know how rumours fly around here. It could also be something that was once true but has since changed.
Honestly, it seems like bad info to me, but it might be something worth looking in to.
If it's in good working order but does have a bad esn, you could sell it and at least get your deductible back.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
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I recently found my Evo that I had lost several months ago and had replaced with Insurance from Sprint. It's been deactivated by Sprint and I want it reactivated by Sprint so I can give to my sister. Will they let me do that? Or will they only allow me to have one activated at a time for some stupid corporate-gain reason?
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So what was the outcome? I'm curious as to what sprint did for you.
You should claim lost on your current phone so your brother can have it 2 months later when you do find it.
Once insurance is filed your claimed phone becomes the property of the insuring company. It no longer belongs to you.
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You should claim lost on your current phone so your brother can have it 2 months later when you do find it.
Once insurance is filed your claimed phone becomes the property of the insuring company. It no longer belongs to you.
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You're an ass,you can't just jump to the conclusion that he's lying about losing it and finding. Once again You're an ass.
i want to say it will not work but from experience i would say you should give it a try.
my buddy owns a sprint store with his brother and when evo first came out one of them got. so the other one wanted a evo as well because it was his birthday so his older brother filed a missing claim and turned it off and used a replacement phone for about a month or 2 and when the new phone came in he gave his brother one evo and he kept the other.
he is still using the phone to this day.
its a hassle but it did work (for them atleast)
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You're an ass,you can't just jump to the conclusion that he's lying about losing it and finding. Once again You're an ass.
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I can jump to any conclusions I like. Plus where in my response did I said the op is lying. I am just giving him a scenario.
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i want to say it will not work but from experience i would say you should give it a try.
my buddy owns a sprint store with his brother and when evo first came out one of them got. so the other one wanted a evo as well because it was his birthday so his older brother filed a missing claim and turned it off and used a replacement phone for about a month or 2 and when the new phone came in he gave his brother one evo and he kept the other.
he is still using the phone to this day.
its a hassle but it did work (for them atleast)
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Besides it being a hassle, now we all know that your buddy is totally cool with lying and fraud. Maybe if he had better ethics he'd do better business and be able to afford to just buy the things he wants legally. Just a thought.
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Besides it being a hassle, now we all know that your buddy is totally cool with lying and fraud. Maybe if he had better ethics he'd do better business and be able to afford to just buy the things he wants legally. Just a thought.
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i could of told you that
If you are having an issue getting the Lumia 900 unlocked or trying to set it up on an AT&T MVNO. Please post something here. I started to think about it, when I bought the phone I thought.. ah I will just get it ulocked and bring it to T-Mobile. Then I was told about H2O in the process, even then I hit an AT&T wall. I did not unlock the phone, I am using it on AT&T through a friend so to speak H2O. The network settings app is on the marketplace if you are outside the US, it's not inside the US. I got off the phone with Nokia 2nd tier and he hinted toward AT&T blocking it. Then I started to think about what I was purchasing and how really nothing else we purchase is like this. You buy a car it's yours, you buy a computer it's yours.. why are phones different? I called my class action attorney client and had a discussion with him about it. Nothing may come of it, but if it does I need a list of those in the same boat, you bought the device out right no contract and can't use it outside of AT&T and that includes features like MMS not functional and a simple config utility would fix. Please do not post about how it won't work becuase blah, blah, blah. I just need a list of people so if anything comes of it I can say here is a list of others with the same issue.
Jumping on the bandwagon...
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Right there with ya. I however went with Straight Talk which of course I cant use my MMS as well until the unlock comes available. I am curious if I can proxy my wifi to an international proxy so that I can access outside the USA market apps? Anyone have any ideas on this?
You can add me to the list of those that bought the phone at full price. I never called AT&T to ask for an unlock code. Do I need to do that first to prove that I'm at a disadvantage caused by AT&T?
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I just need a list of people so if anything comes of it I can say here is a list of others with the same issue.
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Please count me in, I can send you my data in a private message, just let me know
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You can add me to the list of those that bought the phone at full price. I never called AT&T to ask for an unlock code. Do I need to do that first to prove that I'm at a disadvantage caused by AT&T?
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Let's see what he says.. I contacted H2O today, as soon as they realized it was WP7, nope can't get MMS. I saw the pics of the network setup out of US and it has all those settings we need. If we need to contact AT&T I will try that tomorrow, but I think this is a bigger issue.
count me in too.
In.
I know people have been saying to give up calling ATT. But I just called for the first time tonight, and thought I'd share some of the interesting bits I got. Well interesting to me because they weren't what I was expecting in comparison to everyone else's. Anyways~,
~I asked about dates and a supervisor told me that on 5/7/2012, this past Monday, that their notes for the Lumia 900 were updated by corporate.
~What it essentially says is that they can't say anything. lol
~When I pushed a bit more she told me that it was updated to say that they have no expected date as of now for the release of unlock codes. That they won't release any now because it's an exclusive and otherwise ineligible (Which everyone has already heard.). And that customer service reps are urged to not even submit requests because they all will instantly be denied on the spot.
~Also they told me I was the first one they've heard of trying to unlock this phone.
EDIT: Also, I know this was just adding to the pile of. "Reps Don't Know Squat"
EDIT: Meant to post this on the other thread. Oh well~ Anyways~ I'm in too I guess.
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I know people have been saying to give up calling ATT. But I just called for the first time tonight, and thought I'd share some of the interesting bits I got. Well interesting to me because they weren't what I was expecting in comparison to everyone else's. Anyways~,
~I asked about dates and a supervisor told me that on 5/7/2012, this past Monday, that their notes for the Lumia 900 were updated by corporate.
~What it essentially says is that they can't say anything. lol
~When I pushed a bit more she told me that it was updated to say that they have no expected date as of now for the release of unlock codes. That they won't release any now because it's an exclusive and otherwise ineligible (Which everyone has already heard.). And that customer service reps are urged to not even submit requests because they all will instantly be denied on the spot.
~Also they told me I was the first one they've heard of trying to unlock this phone.
EDIT: Meant to post this on the other thread. Oh well~ Anyways~ I'm in too I guess.
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For this thread, I don't think it matters. The way I look at it, if they are gonna control where I can use a phone I paid full price for (Even if it was on CL) without a contract. Then they should support it to get my MMS working on their MVNO! Could you imagine if other things you buy where like this. You buy that nice new Nissan Fronteir, you can only drive on Nissan roads. Let's say you bought a GTE rotary phone 30 years ago and you could only use GTE as long distance company we would be like FU I am gonna do what I want!
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For this thread, I don't think it matters. The way I look at it, if they are gonna control where I can use a phone I paid full price for (Even if it was on CL) without a contract. Then they should support it to get my MMS working on their MVNO! Could you imagine if other things you buy where like this. You buy that nice new Nissan Fronteir, you can only drive on Nissan roads. Let's say you bought a GTE rotary phone 30 years ago and you could only use GTE as long distance company we would be like FU I am gonna do what I want!
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HHAAAAA~! I SAID THE SAME THING OVER THE PHONE. (Except I used Toyota). They also brought up that I didn't buy the phone directly from them, like that it was a point for them. And I go, "Yeah...that kind of just furthers my point. How does AT&T hold exclusive rights to block me from using something the way I want when I didn't even purchase it from them?) And they just repeated "AT&T has exclusivity and the phone is currently ineligible after that.
Too funny!! I love it.. well great minds think alike or it's just the damn truth. ha ha
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If you are having an issue getting the Lumia 900 unlocked or trying to set it up on an AT&T MVNO. Please post something here. I started to think about it, when I bought the phone I thought.. ah I will just get it ulocked and bring it to T-Mobile. Then I was told about H2O in the process, even then I hit an AT&T wall. I did not unlock the phone, I am using it on AT&T and though the network settings app is on the marketplace if you are outside the US, it's not inside the US. I got off the phone with Nokia 2nd tier and he hinted toward AT&T blocking it. Then I started to think about what I was purchasing and how really nothing else we purchase is like this. You buy a car it's yours, you buy a computer it's yours.. why are phones different? I called my class action attorney client and had a discussion with him about it. Nothing may come of it, but if it does I need a list of those in the same boat, you bought the device out right no contract and can't use it outside of AT&T and that includes features like MMS not functional and a simple config utility would fix. Please do not post about how it won't work becuase blah, blah, blah. I just need a list of people so if anything comes of it I can say here is a list of others with the same issue.
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Count me in
im in
i'm in.
i've called AT&T 6 times since logging my customer care case and they tell me nokia hasn't released the codes. LOL
OP - you're wasting everyone's time. When you buy a branded phone you know full well that it will be locked to a carrier. Buying the device at full retail does not entitle you to take your device elsewhere. AT&T (and all other carriers) spend months and millions in R&D to develop and test the phone before bringing it to the market, so it is completely logical that they wish to get a return on investment in form of service revenue. In case you're wondering, carriers do not make money off hardware, that's not the business they're in.
There is no rule or law that requires carriers to remove SIM lock. They do it as a courtesy when they see fit, but they are not required to do that by any means. How do you think AT&T was able to deny iPhone unlocks for so many years if it was illegal?
Anyone who bought the phone before checking with AT&T about their unlock policy have no one but themselves to blame, simple as that.
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OP - you're wasting everyone's time. When you buy a branded phone you know full well that it will be locked to a carrier. Buying the device at full retail does not entitle you to take your device elsewhere. AT&T (and all other carriers) spend months and millions in R&D to develop and test the phone before bringing it to the market, so it is completely logical that they wish to get a return on investment in form of service revenue. In case you're wondering, carriers do not make money off hardware, that's not the business they're in.
There is no rule or law that requires carriers to remove SIM lock. They do it as a courtesy when they see fit, but they are not required to do that by any means. How do you think AT&T was able to deny iPhone unlocks for so many years if it was illegal?
Anyone who bought the phone before checking with AT&T about their unlock policy have no one but themselves to blame, simple as that.
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"Please do not post about how it won't work becuase blah, blah, blah" Hmm guess you didn't read that part. This is not just about unlock codes. "
H2O MMS or others Ulock codes" I don't even need an unlock code for H2O. Besides I already made my case to someone who does this stuff for a living, maybe nothing, maybe something... didn't I already say that somewhere?
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"Please do not post about how it won't work becuase blah, blah, blah" Hmm guess you didn't read that part. This is not just about unlock codes. "
H2O MMS or others Ulock codes" I don't even need an unlock code for H2O. Besides I already made my case to someone who does this stuff for a living, maybe nothing, maybe something... didn't I already say that somewhere?
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A laywer willing to sue for money? Color me surprised
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A laywer willing to sue for money? Color me surprised
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I know, I know , we will see what he says.. never know might see something we don't. After all, I am a techy, not a lawyer. May be interesting.. maybe not. He did bring up what it says on the box. T-Mobile has a seal that says by opening this product you accept terms yadda yadda. AT&T does not. No terms and conditions on the box at all that I saw.
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I know, I know , we will see what he says.. never know might see something we don't. After all, I am a techy, not a lawyer. May be interesting.. maybe not. He did bring up what it says on the box. T-Mobile has a seal that says by opening this product you accept terms yadda yadda. AT&T does not. No terms and conditions on the box at all that I saw.
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They don't have to post terms on the box, they are usually on the back of the sales receipt. As long as the phone is fully functional in the environment it was designed for, there is just no basis for complaint. I wouldn't spend a dime on the lawyer if I were you. Just thinking logically here, not trying to start a war
If u can help me please pm me
I called tmobile and ask politely and said the right answers and they unblocked my imei
What were the right answers? I bought one off the craigs that stopped working a month later. Had to sell it on ebay and broke even.
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What were the right answers? I bought one off the craigs that stopped working a month later. Had to sell it on ebay and broke even.
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Right answer? Perhaps giving his credit card number to pay off device outstanding amount.
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I called tmobile and ask politely and said the right answers and they unblocked my imei
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How did that work? I bought my Note 3 on Swappa, and after it was blocked, T-Mobile basically told me to go suck a duck. They wouldn't give me any info, except to tell me what I already knew (that the phone was blocked). They wouldn't tell me how much was owed either.
But please tell us what you said. There are many people who have been scammed and would like to be able to get their device unblocked.
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If u can help me please pm me
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I went through something very similar, except Swappa, not Craigslist. Is the phone just blocked for non-payment of EIP, or is it reported stolen and blacklisted? That might affect your options.
You have a couple of choices, none of which are ideal.
1. Sell the phone on Ebay for a loss. If you sell it internationally, you might be better off since non-US buyers wouldn't care about it being blocked on T-Mobile.
2. Do what I did. Unlock the device (use Chainfire or something similar) and go to another carrier. I ended up going to Straight Talk (AT&T). All in all, it cost me about $10 to unlock and buy the SIM card. I lost my favorite T-Mobile plan, and now pay more for less data (I cry silently each night), but at least your phone will be usable again.
Hope that helps.
Sorry if I am a noob about this but can someone share some light what is happening exactly? I don't want to fall in this category.
People sell their phones to the customer (via Craigslist or Swappa) and the seller does not pay it off which causes T-Mobile to blacklist them?
Try use region unlock that might help you
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Pedro2NR said:
Sorry if I am a noob about this but can someone share some light what is happening exactly? I don't want to fall in this category.
People sell their phones to the customer (via Craigslist or Swappa) and the seller does not pay it off which causes T-Mobile to blacklist them?
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I think there has been at least one instance in which the phone seemed to have been reported as lost or stolen via insurance. That's based on a phone which was supposedly not on EIP being blacklisted by Tmo. Can't find the thread right now, so that's based entirely on vague recollection.
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Pedro2NR said:
Sorry if I am a noob about this but can someone share some light what is happening exactly? I don't want to fall in this category.
People sell their phones to the customer (via Craigslist or Swappa) and the seller does not pay it off which causes T-Mobile to blacklist them?
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Pretty much. Most likely these people are getting their T-mo service cut off for non-payment and since the phone still has a balance, the IMEI gets blacklisted. Shady seller sells it anyway. Poor buyer gets home, finds out its blocked, and has very little recourse especially if it was a CL deal. People also frequently steal phones and try to sell them as well. I work as a phone tester for a popular "sell us your phone!" service that has commercials all over TV right now, and I see TONS of stolen phones. I open the package, turn it on, see the "you have entered the wrong pin too many times, phone locked" screen, and then the ESN/IMEI comes up blacklisted.
Bottom line- people are terrible and will think nothing of scamming you if they can make a quick buck. Trust no one. I won't buy high-end electronics anywhere but a brick & mortar store or a reputable online dealer who guarantees their products. Saving a couple hundred bucks is not worth the risk of getting scammed.
T-mobile has the best customer-service I've ever talked to. On the phone that is
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Right answer = lies
Im not sure if its the right place to say this.
My N3 was paid off
what I told them was I bought this phone off my girlfriend who wanted to stick with an iphone.
And while she changed back to her iphone there must have been a mistake which blocked the phone.
and after about an hour they said they would review this and call me back... but never got a call back.
So I called back a week later and talked to another person and asked about my phone's status and she told it was not blocked anymore.
Hope that helps.
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Right answer = lies
Im not sure if its the right place to say this.
My N3 was paid off
what I told them was I bought this phone off my girlfriend who wanted to stick with an iphone.
And while she changed back to her iphone there must have been a mistake which blocked the phone.
and after about an hour they said they would review this and call me back... but never got a call back.
So I called back a week later and talked to another person and asked about my phone's status and she told it was not blocked anymore.
Hope that helps.
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Sounds so easy. I am assuming you bought the N3 used from a woman at least?
Was actually a guy.
everything was good and was easy to contact but after i bought it he turned off the phone and never heard from him again.
And yea it was craigslist I bought it from.
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Was actually a guy.
everything was good and was easy to contact but after i bought it he turned off the phone and never heard from him again.
And yea it was craigslist I bought it from.
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So you basically called T Mobile up and explained you bought this from your girlfriend and get angry and after splitting up black listed the phone or to that effect?
I had an issue like this with my note 3, i purchased it back around October 15 off swappa, then 2 months and about 3 days later my phone stopped working, i looked up the imei and it said it was stolen, conveniently just 3 days too late to file a claim with paypal, I called up tmobile, told them I purchased the phone used, and the date i had started using the phone on their service and said it was now saying it was stolen more than 2 months after this and the person told me they were going to unblock the phone for me, and it would take about 24 hours, it actually took closer to 48 hours but they did unblock it and I've had no problems since.
this is why you do trades at a t-mobile store to verify that it works.
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this is why you do trades at a t-mobile store to verify that it works.
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That only helps if you are SURE to ask the rep to verify nothing is owed........a simple imei scan just states that at the moment it's not flagged. ....had this happen. ..met seller at tmobile. ..rep scanned said it was good to go....literally as I started to hand the money to the dude he mentioned that he owed $500 but had arranged to make payments and that no way he would let his credit get messed up because of it.....I said..."can't do it" and ended up just getting a brand new one from tmobile the next day......glad to not have to deal with the nightmare....
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That only helps if you are SURE to ask the rep to verify nothing is owed........a simple imei scan just states that at the moment it's not flagged. ....had this happen. ..met seller at tmobile. ..rep scanned said it was good to go....literally as I started to hand the money to the dude he mentioned that he owed $500 but had arranged to make payments and that no way he would let his credit get messed up because of it.....I said..."can't do it" and ended up just getting a brand new one from tmobile the next day......glad to not have to deal with the nightmare....
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Oh yeah and the rep had to look up more info to see that money was owed......the guy had left tmobile but his billing hadn't cycled yet so to anyone checking it all seemed legit....be careful guys....even to this day I see Craigslist postings and when you ask if they will meet at store to confirm no money owed...no response. ....use that as a litmus test if you must dabble
you can ask the t mob rep to check it. they arent restricted at doing that with the owner there, you just have to be polite and get the right person.
guaneet said:
you can ask the t mob rep to check it. they arent restricted at doing that with the owner there, you just have to be polite and get the right person.
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What I'm trying to point out is that generally the question is whether the imei is clean.....the "Yes" answer is not a guarantee at all....it may take tmobile 30 days to realize non - payment before it gets flagged....just make sure to also ask whether all handset fees have been payed off as well as imei status.
well basically this is what happens in craigslist, and very rarely on ebay,....
Someone sells there phone, then they report is lost or stolen, then they probably receive another at a cost of $150 pr $175 for a replacement phone.
If you buy this on ebay, call ebay up a tell them to look at the seller of this phone, they will see that it was sold by the seller claiming this imei is in good standards, they should reimburse you... or paypal....
in craigslist you can make sure you print out the add, keep it in a safe place, so when they sell you the phone and you get scammed, try going to the police and let them know you purchased this, they can probably trace everything back to the seller, and probably arrest them, if they claim a good imei and then they have reported it stolen. to receive another phone from the insurance company.
because when someone reports it stolen and does an insurance job, they have to usually get a police report number, then they have to give Assurance or Assurant (insurance company for the cell phones) the police report number then the insurance company... now if they falsified information to the police they can get in trouble. this will really work for the people that sell there phone to do an insurance job. they sell their phone, call the insurance company and get another one.
In case you bought an ATT Note 5 N920A and someone sold you a stolen device or did not remove their google account, well here you go
(Note this package will get you out of DM failure when your stuck on the boot screen )
To repair the root key you will need an IMEI Box
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6Edc179PBU
DOWNLOAD LINK
https://mega.nz/#!FxN0jIqa
DECRYPTION KEY
!ce4wrVhzllieGoKRuR3wIVGILWM_Ij-O7iagU8dMvMo
So these tools are to assist people in receiving stolen property? Shouldn't they instead be returning it to its rightful owner?
Gary02468 said:
So these tools are to assist people in receiving stolen property? Shouldn't they instead be returning it to its rightful owner?
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No Gary they don't build tools to use stolen property! Why should the person that bought the phone go and return it to the owner will that owner refund there money, will the guy he got the phone from refund it never this tools are made to help people that are in need not thief's!!!!!
otisman said:
No Gary they don't build tools to use stolen property! Why should the person that bought the phone go and return it to the owner will that owner refund there money, will the guy he got the phone from refund it never this tools are made to help people that are in need not thief's!!!!!
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Imagine if your phone got stolen. And imagine that a week later, you tracked it down and found it in the possession of someone who'd bought it from the thief. Would you say that the phone no longer belonged to you, that the person who has it now is the new rightful owner? Or would you think that person should return it to you?
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Imagine if your phone got stolen. And imagine that a week later, you tracked it down and found it in the possession of someone who'd bought it from the thief. Would you say that the phone no longer belonged to you, that the person who has it now is the new rightful owner? Or would you think that person should return it to you?
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Buddy your beating a dead horse OK imagine you bought a phone for 500 of Craig's list now you find out its lock what do you do I can go on on with this your post above pretty much I'm so many words called him a criminal or has been doing criminal things by helping people with lack list thing! What if the guy that sold the phone called it in stolen cause he insured it ATT would black list imei now what do you have all the info on what happened probably not so all I'm telling you GARY sometimes comments are best keep in your head instead of clogging up forums that's just me you have a nice day and move on with your issue thankyou
+1 otisman. Let me clue you in on something Gary your little Crusade isn't stopping anything the thieves that choose to steal phones and resell them on Craigslist don't need me and I'm not posting anything that's one big secret I'm here to help the honest man which I've been helping in my shop for years and that's folks who gets screwed over because they went out and honestly bought a phone and then found out later on that somebody stole that phone and sold it to them and in good faith they went on Craigslist and they tried to find the original owner but they couldn't or they got stuck with the handset so don't come on here and troll my post or anybody else's because that's what your doing yeah if you have something valuable to contribute to the conversation or the Forum please do if not go away
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otisman said:
imagine you bought a phone for 500 of Craig's list now you find out its lock what do you do
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What if this phone I bought on Craigslist was actually yours, stolen from you a few days earlier? Would you say it now belongs to me and not you, just because I paid the thief $500 on Craigslist?
To answer your question: what I'd do is return your phone to you and try to press charges against the person who stole it from you. I would not try to crack the FRP and keep your phone for myself.
Gary let me explain something to you if somebody steals my phone okay and they post it online nine times out of 10 I'm never going to be able to recover that phone. When I have some lady who comes into my shop who just purchased a phone that was stolen on Craigslist I can't find out who that phone belongs too neither and the carrier is not going to share that information with you and you can't go online and find out from the IMEI number who that phone belongs to I've had plenty of customers that have taken pictures of the phone that they purchased that was stolen and posted it on Craigslist and said hey is this your phone and nobody calls them back so when people do their due diligence and they try everything to return the phone and now they're stuck with something that they paid a lot of money for absolutely I will help them like hundreds of other shops do so do me a favor right now stop your whining stop trying to make points that don't make any sense and quit trolling our thread goodbye
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Ive posted a youtube video for you guys / girls the link is in the OP
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When I have some lady who comes into my shop who just purchased a phone that was stolen on Craigslist I can't find out who that phone belongs too neither and the carrier is not going to share that information with you and you can't go online and find out from the IMEI number who that phone belongs to
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The carrier has to protect the owner's privacy so yes, they won't reveal the owner's contact information to you.
However, given the IMEI number, you may be able to get the carrier to relay a message to the owner so the owner can arrange to retrieve their stolen phone.
You can also report the stolen phone to the police, who can then help recover the money that was paid to the thief for the phone.
From what I was told by a tech some people are selling phones that work and they get 3rd party ins and after a month or however they report them stolen and get another phone plus some cash considering phones now are upwards of $700+. I am a victim of this I bought a note5 from original owner but when he posted it for sale he also posted screenshot of the imei on facebook. No problems month in phone reported stolen I took phone to at&t and told me the issue. Never asked for the phone nothing they could care less. Who should I give the phone to the man that bought it that has receipt for it that I gave $450 too? There are cases when honest people get screwed and need help. I also understand some will use this to do what this man is clearly not advocating.
Loudpak said:
Who should I give the phone to the man that bought it that has receipt for it that I gave $450 [to]?
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That's a very different situation. Others here have been talking about helping someone keep a phone that had been stolen:
In case you bought an ATT Note 5 N920A and someone sold you a stolen device or did not remove their google account, well here you go
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Gary02468 said:
That's a very different situation. Others here have been talking about helping someone keep a phone that had been stolen:
In case you bought an ATT Note 5 N920A and someone sold you a stolen device or did not remove their google account, well here you go
When I have some lady who comes into my shop who just purchased a phone that was stolen on Craigslist [...]
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I see what you're saying I misread it my sister dog got ran over last night and took it to vet emergency surgery and couldn't sleep. It's a harsh world we live in and in that type of situation someone loses out and can only hope they have ins. I know att wouldn't tell me nothing about who reported it stolen and didn't even want the phone. I was literally thinking police were about to show up when they said it was stolen.
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I see what you're saying I misread it my sister dog got ran over last night
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Hey, no problem. I hope everything works out for you.
(Temporarily) Stuck in boot loop after doing this
I bought a phone on Craigslist from a guy 150 miles away. I tried this method and it seemed to work (Odin reported success) but after the reboot it kept rebooting after the AT&T logo. I finally went back into recovery mode, wiped the cache and factory reset, and it booted up again. However, it still required a previous account to continue. Before the factory reset I tried just wiping the cache but that didn't help.
Did I miss something? Should I try again. The seller says I can do a hangout with him to get his credentials (and let him watch me wipe it again). But I'd rather just get this done for good. At least I think it's for good.
Go to recovery and select the option to use ADB. You won't actually be loading anything but if you let it just sit, it will wipe everything after a few minutes of not receiving any files via adb. I know this will wipe, but not sure it will to the level you need regarding Google accounts. Worth a try maybe.
MJHawaii said:
In case you bought an ATT Note 5 N920A and someone sold you a stolen device or did not remove their google account, well here you go
(Note this package will get you out of DM failure when your stuck on the boot screen )
To repair the root key you will need an IMEI Box
DOWNLOAD LINK
https://mega.nz/#!FxN0jIqa
DECRYPTION KEY
!ce4wrVhzllieGoKRuR3wIVGILWM_Ij-O7iagU8dMvMo
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Interesting
DECRYPTION KEY
!ce4wrVhzllieGoKRuR3wIVGILWM_Ij-O7iagU8dMvMo
Just wondering could we use this to implement it into a custom firmware
will this work on an sprint note 5?
if you can not bypass frp you can contact facebook tungkick777 or skype : tungkick777. Or whatsapp:+84948012006 he can bypass online via teamvwier very very fast.
So I bought a phone that was working until today and all of the sudden it is a reported stolen phone and I can't get in touch with the seller. It was a Verizon Pixel 2 xl. I was using it on MetroPCS successfully until today. Can this be unlocked somehow?
I think you better report to the police. Possession of stolen property is a crime
Unless it belonged to the seller and he didn't pay it off..... Thanks for the lack of help.
Can you go to a Verizon or Metropcs store to check it out...
You are out of luck unless you can straighten it out with Verizon.
Nickdroid86 said:
So I bought a phone that was working until today and all of the sudden it is a reported stolen phone and I can't get in touch with the seller. It was a Verizon Pixel 2 xl. I was using it on MetroPCS successfully until today. Can this be unlocked somehow?
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If Seller will not immediately refund the purchase, the Only thing to do with a stolen phone is tell local police the entire story about Seller.
You can't get a stolen phone to function once blacklisted. If you could find a shady character to "flash" something, you would sooner or later be found out.
Not worth it.
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If Seller will not immediately refund the purchase, the Only thing to do with a stolen phone is tell local police the entire story about Seller.
You can't get a stolen phone to function once blacklisted. If you could find a shady character to "flash" something, you would sooner or later be found out.
Not worth it.
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I know this doesn't help now, but you have to keep it in mind about a deal that is too good to be true -- it usually isn't.
But let me ask you this; how exactly do you know that its been reported stolen? If you're trying unsuccessfully to connect a stolen phone to a network using your sim card, that would alert your service provider to the fact that you have a stolen phone, and so I would suspect that you can expect the police to knock on your door shortly.
Ok, so let's get the 800-lb gorilla out of the way here. The phone has been blacklisted. Why has it been blacklisted? Either the seller cancelled their service and refused to pay the ETF fee, or the device was stolen. Regardless of why, both options lead to the same end result: an unusable device.
If the device is blacklisted due to the seller refusing to pay the ETF, the only way to resolve the issue is to pay the ETF fee.
If the device is blacklisted due to being stolen, nothing will resolve the issue. The P2XL would need to be sold, either as a parts device, or to a buyer out of the country.
Unlocking a device will not help here, and in the case of Verizon is moot: Verizon does not SIM lock their devices. A few years ago it was possible to switch carriers and get around the blacklist, but that has changed. The carriers all access the same blacklist, and a device blacklisted on one carrier is blacklisted on all of them. The one loophole in the blacklist is if the device is transported outside of North America. The blacklist in the US is not used worldwide, and thus devices outside of the country will work.
Now that we've covered the issue of blacklisting, let's touch on the theft issue. It's very unlikely that Verizon is going to send anyone to retrieve the device. Even though the device costs a fair amount of cash, the carriers cannot pinpoint exactly where the device is, except to note that it's using a specific cell tower. By blacklisting the device they have rendered it unusable and have already written it off.
if you bought it via swappa or something like that you can file a claim against the user
if via craigslist or in person, you have no real recourse
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I know this doesn't help now, but you have to keep it in mind about a deal that is too good to be true -- it usually isn't.
But let me ask you this; how exactly do you know that its been reported stolen? If you're trying unsuccessfully to connect a stolen phone to a network using your sim card, that would alert your service provider to the fact that you have a stolen phone, and so I would suspect that you can expect the police to knock on your door shortly.
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It worked yesterday when i first added it to my ascot. Today, this afternoon it stopped working and when i checked the IMEI, it was reported lost or stolen. It wasn't yesterday when I checked it. Seller is MIA. Can I order a motherboard or something for it that will fix the issue?
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It worked yesterday when i first added it to my ascot. Today, this afternoon it stopped working and when i checked the IMEI, it was reported lost or stolen. It wasn't yesterday when I checked it. Seller is MIA. Can I order a motherboard or something for it that will fix the issue?
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No, if it is listed as stolen you are done. You can give it to the cops, and the info you have on the seller if you want.
Couple of concerns here.
If I give up the phone, I am out both my money, and the phone. In which case the police will literally do nothing. The phones already been written off and likely replaced.
If I keep it, I have seen multiple claims of company's that can clear a bad IMEI for a fee.
However, I thought that my phone being a Verizon variant, just wouldn't work on Verizon but would work on gsm still? What ever happened to that?
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Couple of concerns here.
If I give up the phone, I am out both my money, and the phone. In which case the police will literally do nothing. The phones already been written off and likely replaced.
If I keep it, I have seen multiple claims of company's that can clear a bad IMEI for a fee.
However, I thought that my phone being a Verizon variant, just wouldn't work on Verizon but would work on gsm still? What ever happened to that?
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It was explained for you in an earlier post. YOUR PHONE WILL NOT WORK IN THE USA BECAUSE ALL USA CARRIERS USE THE SAME BLACKLIST. YOU WOULD HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTRY OR FIND SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY TO PURCHASE IT OFF OF YOU.
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It was explained for you in an earlier post. YOUR PHONE WILL NOT WORK IN THE USA BECAUSE ALL USA CARRIERS USE THE SAME BLACKLIST. YOU WOULD HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTRY OR FIND SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY TO PURCHASE IT OFF OF YOU.
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Oh ok, well now that you say it in all caps lock, it makes sense.......
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Oh ok, well now that you say it in all caps lock, it makes sense.......
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Well you didn't understand when someone typed it normally so...
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Well you didn't understand when someone typed it normally so...
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Right but it still doesn't explain if you're just saying that because it's unethical, or actually impossible. Because like I said there's companies out there with decent reviews that claim they can fix this issue....
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Right but it still doesn't explain if you're just saying that because it's unethical, or actually impossible. Because like I said there's companies out there with decent reviews that claim they can fix this issue....
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I don't know anything about bypassing IMEI bans, but I would *assume* that there's some sort of rule on XDA about discussing things of that nature.
This is simple. Be sure you have all your info together about the seller. Print out all correspondences, screen shot and print out any communications (texts, call logs, etc), write down all of the phones info clearly (IMEI, model, etc, etc). Bring that paperwork to the police (don't bring the phone at this time) and file a report. Take said report and contact Google. Email them all of the info including the police report. Wait to hear from Google. Chances are good they will offer some form of assistance, possibly an offer to send in the phone for full reformatting if no one has made claim to that phones IMEI. They may offer a discount on another device. They may tell you to go pound sand. Either way, that's your best/only option at this point.
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Right but it still doesn't explain if you're just saying that because it's unethical, or actually impossible. Because like I said there's companies out there with decent reviews that claim they can fix this issue....
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You are now venturing into territory that is very much frowned upon by XDA moderators. Not giving you a hard time, just a heads up.
I agree, if anyone has info please pm me. Feel free to close the thread.