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I picked up a T-Mobile S4 on amazon for a pretty good price. This price wasn't "too good to be true" or anything like that, it was just a fair price for what I think is already a decently "mature" device.
Anyway, the phone is in like new condition and the owner had it presumably for about 6 months at least. I know this because he indicated that he had it in an otter-like case for that amount of time.
The first thing I immediately noticed was how fast the battery drained. He shipped the phone with the battery fully charged but still I just noticed that customizing things and changing settings I seemed to lose battery very quickly. My experience may be biased by my past two devices the Xperia Z Ultra and the Note 2 both which have large batteries, however, I installed CarbonRom and still experience what I believe to be abnormal battery drain.
Also, the top half of the phone gets noticeably warm from normal usage like web browsing or flipping through app settings. I do NOT game. The is a distinct difference between how the top half of the phone feels versus the bottom half. It's mostly centralized around the camera. I used gsam to check the temperature of the battery and it does seem normal, however, my brightness is like ~20% and I don't know, my friend who is also on Carbon says he gets amazing battery life. I feel let down by how quickly this thing drains and as I continue to say I don't think it is normal. I ordered a spare RAVPower 2600mah battery to see if there's a problem with the battery but I'm really not hopeful.
What do you guys think?
I too was disappointed with the M919 when I first got it. I have another S4 (i9505) which is rooted I get great battery life using the same sim card. My guess is the LTE radio is what sucks up the juice.
I have rooted it today just to install intelli3g and it does help save battery life. This app automatically switches to 2G, 3G, 4G and LTE depending on what you tell it to do. It's like a tasker type app.
Try to disable apps like google+ and the like if you haven't done so.
Also don't forget to disable Wifi scanning and Wifi on during sleep.
And if you really don't need "Data" to be on all the time, turn it off.
Dajinn said:
I picked up a T-Mobile S4 on amazon for a pretty good price. This price wasn't "too good to be true" or anything like that, it was just a fair price for what I think is already a decently "mature" device.
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A bad battery would be my first thought. It's logical. It fits the facts you present. And it's a common problem.
Plus it's a $10 fix.
I would doubt the drain was software related if you get the same bad battery results with a completely different ROM.
And I'd doubt that it's hardware related because a hardware fault that will drain the battery fast is likely a hardware fault that will prevent the phone from working at all. battery drain is caused by short circuits. Electronics don't work and play well with short circuits.
So I think you are being reasonable by trying a new battery. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect it to help.
If you want to squeeze out every possible second of battery life, check out the link in my signature about battery like while idle as well. It'll show you how to improve your battery life.
Just want to know your thoughts about having wifi or Bluetooth enabled all the time, even with no connection or pairing with nothing, regarding battery life
I ask this because my test would not be accurate as I always use the phone differently (moving to different places, calling, music) apart from playing with kernel and other settings... So can't really tell the difference in that
Please don't tell me, just turn them off when leaving home or leaving your car. My point is to get it connected/paired with no need to unlock phone, turn on... etc... xD
About NFC I saw a module to enable it when screen off. But I read comments that it causes big drain, obviously
On the previous build MH19C I was pretty sure if wifi 5GHz is enabled and available, it will drain and also wake like crazy. This happens in my office but not at home where I don't have a 5GHz wifi or even wifi ac, but is widely used in office, with multiple physical AP's. Now already on the May update, I no longer enable 5Ghz wifi and backgroud scanning just to be safe.
Less than other devices due to the Android Sensor Hub and Doze.
while not in wifi i have data which drains tons of battery anyway, so i dont even bother with any miniscule effect wifi scanning might have. i would advise you to put it off your head too, there are thousands of tiny unessecary battery drainers in your phone, it would sap your mental health trying to deal with anything more than the big ones (data/screen/bugged apps) for only few % of battery.
if the phone is able to last till bedtime or return to home, then it does not matter to meddle with anything. charge it every night and if comes to worse it charges to 50% in few minutes
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while not in wifi i have data which drains tons of battery anyway, so i dont even bother with any miniscule effect wifi scanning might have. i would advise you to put it off your head too, there are thousands of tiny unessecary battery drainers in your phone, it would sap your mental health trying to deal with anything more than the big ones (data/screen/bugged apps) for only few % of battery.
if the phone is able to last till bedtime or return to home, then it does not matter to meddle with anything. charge it every night and if comes to worse it charges to 50% in few minutes
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Exactly, that's why I want to know if the % is noticeable or not
It's a good advice. However it's also good to keep things in order because battery cicles are limited in phones and my goal is to keep the 5x more than 2 years xD
So I wouldn't be fine just getting at the end of the day, it's good to preserve and not drain unnecessary drain, considering this battery is not removable, plus it is already 'bad' being new haha
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Exactly, that's why I want to know if the % is noticeable or not
It's a good advice. However it's also good to keep things in order because battery cicles are limited in phones and my goal is to keep the 5x more than 2 years xD
So I wouldn't be fine just getting at the end of the day, it's good to preserve and not drain unnecessary drain, considering this battery is not removable, plus it is already 'bad' being new haha
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i dont know about battery cyrcles, but replacing battery on 5x is not hard - watch a video about it as to not make any hasty mistake, and its piece of cake.
also its better if the battery is not too low when recharged and not too hot. 5x already has a annoyingly protective temp threshold so you dont need to worry about ruining your battery that way, while its better to recharge every night (or more often if you need) even if there is plenty of juice in the phone cause that is healthier for the battery.
If reducing battery cycles is your main goal, you have to turn them off.
I'm keeping wlan (connected at least 50% of the time with decent-v good connection)/bt (most of the time no connection, only in car and for bt speakers) switched on all day and they together take 7-8% battery on (my) average use (~10-15% left before charging every night), of course much less (in relation) when heavily using the phone.
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If reducing battery cycles is your main goal, you have to turn them off.
I'm keeping wlan (connected at least 50% of the time with decent-v good connection)/bt (most of the time no connection, only in car and for bt speakers) switched on all day and they together take 7-8% battery on (my) average use (~10-15% left before charging every night), of course much less (in relation) when heavily using the phone.
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That's what I wanted, some numbers about your experience
Fine then. Once I get some rom and kernel stable I will check for myself. For now it will be disabled when not using (tasker helps too)
Hi all,
So i got a HTC 10 UAE edition from a guy two days before. He was selling it at a reasonable price and i bought it from him.
The battery was draining quite fast and i thought it might be a software issue and i installed venom rom, but problem still existed, so i turned back to stock 2.41.401.41 (Which was very hard though) .
Still the battery is draining so fast. The charger came with the phone( Quick charger ) was also not working and now i'm facing the phone's battery is draining so fast. I'm very confused whether that guy have cheated me or not. If this is a hardware issue i think i have to contact that guy soon.
adb battery stat gave me 2580mah full charge capacity and here, i'm attaching the GSAM battery logs.
Please help me on this
Thanks
Edit: Since the original charger isnt working, im using a oppo 5v- 1A charger, is dat matters on battery drain?
Mine was doing the same as yours, quick charge also stopped working. I changed the cable and it solved it for a few weeks, but the drain started again and quick charge stopped again. Tried ruu etc but no luck. I've sent mine in for repair under warranty and should get it back Monday. My guess is either the charging port is faulty or motherboard but will find out next week.
I was having the exact same problem. I downloaded an app called Lspeed (It's also on the playstore) and did some tweaking in that app as well as used the Enable doze for GMS Magisk Module and now my kernel and android system are on par with each other as far as battery drain goes. Not sure why there are only a handful of people that experience this problem but i'll edit this post with screens of my lspeed config if you want to give that a go!
Edit: Config uploaded. Some of those options are personal preference but take a look around and test it out. What you'll most likely want is to enable the light doze optimization and disable the debugging. That will most likely help in your situation.
Very strange, I'm experiencing this issue too, always receive around 2-3hrs of screen on with very high kernel use during standby. Tried flashing Leedroid, Element X to no avail.
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Mine was doing the same as yours, quick charge also stopped working. I changed the cable and it solved it for a few weeks, but the drain started again and quick charge stopped again. Tried ruu etc but no luck. I've sent mine in for repair under warranty and should get it back Monday. My guess is either the charging port is faulty or motherboard but will find out next week.
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Mine is out of warranty. Dunno what to do now. Tried almost everything.
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I was having the exact same problem. I downloaded an app called Lspeed (It's also on the playstore) and did some tweaking in that app as well as used the Enable doze for GMS Magisk Module and now my kernel and android system are on par with each other as far as battery drain goes. Not sure why there are only a handful of people that experience this problem but i'll edit this post with screens of my lspeed config if you want to give that a go!
Edit: Config uploaded. Some of those options are personal preference but take a look around and test it out. What you'll most likely want is to enable the light doze optimization and disable the debugging. That will most likely help in your situation.
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I'm currently running on pure stock. Will try this method soon. How was your battery standby before doing the tweak ?
Have you tried wiping cache? Mine drains fast depending on the load, which is usually pretty heavy daily. Plus, I don't dim my screen much. Never knew the advice command for battery. I gotta try that.
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Okay, so I got fed up with the battery life I've been getting and have looked more into it, I've managed to reclaim a lot of the longevity I had before updating to Nougat without hampering UI fluidity. For reference, I'm using Leedroid 3.9 with Element X v1.08 and was getting around 2hrs screen on, android system and kernel had the highest usage under GSam.
bilibox has the right idea, my idle drain was very high, L speed and Greenify both have options to enable a more aggressive Doze which worked pretty well, I lose ~10% battery overnight vs a shocking 20-30% before. I still felt battery drain was too high when active, I combined ivicask's PNP mod (balanced) with some little governor tweaks in EX Kernel manager, basically, I'm using interactive on the little cluster and elementx governor on the big cluster (which tends to be slightly more conservative in my uses). I also set min performance to 0% and downclocked the big cluster to 2Ghz, I'm focusing on these cores since they were draining a lot of power in my case.
It's not a super extensive list of tweaks nor something we haven't seen before, but I manage around 3.5hrs of screen on now which gets me through the day. Before I would have to top up around early afternoon, the phone is also really smooth and I'm happy with how everything is running. I hope this helps some people out!
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Okay, so I got fed up with the battery life I've been getting and have looked more into it, I've managed to reclaim a lot of the longevity I had before updating to Nougat without hampering UI fluidity. For reference, I'm using Leedroid 3.9 with Element X v1.08 and was getting around 2hrs screen on, android system and kernel had the highest usage under GSam.
bilibox has the right idea, my idle drain was very high, L speed and Greenify both have options to enable a more aggressive Doze which worked pretty well, I lose ~10% battery overnight vs a shocking 20-30% before. I still felt battery drain was too high when active, I combined ivicask's PNP mod (balanced) with some little governor tweaks in EX Kernel manager, basically, I'm using interactive on the little cluster and elementx governor on the big cluster (which tends to be slightly more conservative in my uses). I also set min performance to 0% and downclocked the big cluster to 2Ghz, I'm focusing on these cores since they were draining a lot of power in my case.
It's not a super extensive list of tweaks nor something we haven't seen before, but I manage around 3.5hrs of screen on now which gets me through the day. Before I would have to top up around early afternoon, the phone is also really smooth and I'm happy with how everything is running. I hope this helps some people out!
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Still its bad that a 3000mah battery with a smaller screen compared to other flagships giving a very low battery backup just because of software bug. From reviews, i can see that MM is giving fine SoT as well as standby. One thing i really cant is the standby. I cant even go out for a day trip. The battery will die in just 10-12hrs even on standby.
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Still its bad that a 3000mah battery with a smaller screen compared to other flagships giving a very low battery backup just because of software bug. From reviews, i can see that MM is giving fine SoT as well as standby. One thing i really cant is the standby. I cant even go out for a day trip. The battery will die in just 10-12hrs even on standby.
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That's unfortunate to hear, my battery life is pretty much in line with my friend's S7 now, newer devices can get away with larger displays because the 835 is a bit more efficient.
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That's unfortunate to hear, my battery life is pretty much in line with my friend's S7 now, newer devices can get away with larger displays because the 835 is a bit more efficient.
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Soon i'll have to ditch htc.
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Soon i'll have to ditch htc.
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I restore my phone and did all updates again. My battery still seems to drain very quick .in an hour with some navigation, and little screen use It went from 20% to 1 percent.
I've taken excellent care of my HTC. Before this, I had HTC 8 and loved it, until right at the 2-year mark, a small area of the screen stopped working.
This is the second time I` experience this, and sadly there won't be a third., especially after new HTC removed the headphone jack like the iPhone ... RIP HTC
Well to be honest the past couple days were to weird to me usually i get 5 - 6 SOA over 13 hours
now i get 3:30 - 4 SOA over 13 hours, same usage, and i have noticed that google service consume most of the power, i have installed doze program and kept my eye on GSM battery Monitor, after all the google service kept the kernal wake up for a long time, and keep running the hardware on the full abilities
I unistalled Gsam battery monitor and kernel usage is back to normal...
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I unistalled Gsam battery monitor and kernel usage is back to normal...
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I have uninstalled ForceDoze and Gsam Bettery this morning but still feeling that there is something wrong, i might do some battery calibration on my free time, because i charge my phone only for 90% and it did not get lower than 20% i feel like i am losing the battery capacity
Was having the same issue, and had been searching for weeks to try and solve this. Tried rooting, factory resets, ROMs, everything.
For me the issue was Google Sync, in particular Contacts and People syncing. I disabled those and everything is back to normal. There was a program called Google Contacts Sync (Apps > Show System > Google Contacts Sync). I cleared the data on that, and then went into Accounts and Sync and turned everything off. That fixed the battery drain. I have tried turning back on Gmail, Keep and a few others and still have great battery.
I have the same issue and I don't know how to fix it. Please help
I'm new to my Pixel 2 XL and have the 8.1 update and am seeing horrible battery life. Noticed others in here also experiencing this and wondered if any of you have some recommended settings for EX Kernel that can improve battery life? I only use the phone for notes, camera, calls, messages, etc... Daily use type of stuff. I don't play any games on my phone other than Hearthstone and it doesn't require much to be smooth and I watch some YouTube here and there but it also doesn't require much so anything I can do to get those 6 hour SoTs everyone raves about with this phone.
Standby is great, in use is just embarrassing.
Mine is opposite. It easy to get 6 or more hours SOT using the phone but the thing drops like 10% battery overnight even with battery and data saver on.
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Mine is opposite. It easy to get 6 or more hours SOT using the phone but the thing drops like 10% battery overnight even with battery and data saver on.
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Well that's not good. I would much rather deal with on drain than stand-by.
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Well that's not good. I would much rather deal with on drain than stand-by.
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A kernel will not stop a badly behaving app from drawing too much power, or not dozing when it is supposed to. You would be better served in using a battery drain app to find your wakelock/bad actors and deal with them. Beyond the information you can get from the improved Google battery applet, GSam and BBS are two apps that can help pinpoint the application or service causing excessive battery drain. It is not the kernel, and as flar2 states, the new chips are so efficient with power there is almost no room for improvement battery-wise. Most people leave it on the default settings, and use it for extra features and customization.
https://elementalx.org/the-truth-about-kernels-and-battery-life/
I agree 100%, I just thought some settings adjustments with the kernel could do some good and maybe someone might have some ideas on what would help the in-use battery consumption. I'm currently clean flashed with only Google APPs and Nova Launcher installed along with EX Kernel and Magisk no modules. Battery drain only shows android system... Not a lot to tell me what it really is. Will try the apps you suggest
As the title says I'm having a problem with network standby battery drain. I've spent countless hours trying to solve this issue without any luck (factory restored 6 times or more, messed around with developer options settings, adaptive battery settings etc. etc.). After contacting Google support they offered me a replacement of my phone and told me that with the new one I won't have this problem. But its still there. Network standby battery drain is consuming 3 times more energy than the screen!!! This is nuts. I'm having enough.
I'm not the only one with this problem. There are many people reporting the same thing. My partner bought Non-Pro P6 and has the same issue. How can a phone for 999€ has such bugs? This is my first Pixel and I think I'm returning it. I'll contact Google support one last time to see if they have a fix.
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As the title says I'm having a problem with network standby battery drain. I've spent countless hours trying to solve this issue without any luck (factory restored 6 times or more, messed around with developer options settings, adaptive battery settings etc. etc.). After contacting Google support they offered me a replacement of my phone and told me that with the new one I won't have this problem. But its still there. Network standby battery drain is consuming 3 times more energy than the screen!!! This is nuts. I'm having enough.
I'm not the only one with this problem. There are many people reporting the same thing. My partner bought Non-Pro P6 and has the same issue. How can a phone for 999€ has such bugs? This is my first Pixel and I think I'm returning it. I'll contact Google support one last time to see if they have a fix.
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I just checked my phone, and it says Mobile network standby: 8% (24 hours)
29% definitely feels too much. Can you give more information? Do you live in a 5G area? What's your connection quality? A bad connection can drain the battery faster, maybe you have an extremely weak 5G connection and your phone is draining itself?
The weaker the signal, the harder your phone will try to connect, meaning it will use more power.
Of course this shouldn't happen, even with a bad connection. ~30% battery drain in 24 hours because of STANDBY drain is a joke and terrible.
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I just checked my phone, and it says Mobile network standby: 8%
27% definitely feels too much. Can you give more information? Do you live in a 5G area? What's your connection quality? A bad connection can drain the battery faster, maybe you have an extremely weak 5G connection and your phone is draining itself?
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At work place I have 5g connection and at home it says 4g. The connection here is good. I tried disabling 5g but the outcome as always the same. Insanely high battery drain by network standby.
I get high standby drain in by basement with no service, about what you're experiencing with 30% or so. Otherwise it's more like 15%. It probably has to do with the older modem unfortunately.
If you can deal with waiting until you're awake to get push notifications, you can schedule airplane mode at night to save on battery drain. Hopefully it's a temp solution until they can figure out a way to fix it via OTA
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I get high standby drain in by basement with no service, about what you're experiencing with 30% or so. Otherwise it's more like 15%. It probably has to do with the older modem unfortunately.
If you can deal with waiting until you're awake to get push notifications, you can schedule airplane mode at night to save on battery drain. Hopefully it's a temp solution until they can figure out a way to fix it via OTA
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Thanks for the reply. I do not care about the consumption during the night. I work +10h and I cannot rely on this device to get me through the day.
Only 29%?? *Cries*
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Only 29%?? *Cries*
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Jeeesus. Part of me wonders if Google knew about this stuff and that's why they jammed a 5000mah battery in this thing. I've been debating dropping the 120hz screen down to 60hz to help offset this stuff, but unfortunately after using it, I'm spoiled. Plus there's discussion that there's problems with the implementation of 60hz frequency on top of it.
Really hoping custom kernels and roms can help eventually.
Just checked my batt stats and at 60% I have 3:11 SOT, with mobile network standby at 22%.
I regularly get 6 - 7 hours SOT by the time I hit 15-20% batt life remaining.
Seems like pretty good SOT to me.
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Just checked my batt stats and at 60% I have 3:11 SOT, with mobile network standby at 22%.
I regularly get 6 - 7 hours SOT by the time I hit 15-20% batt life remaining.
Seems like pretty good SOT to me.
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Your SoT is definitely good enough, but damn man this standby drain is beyond good and evil. To lose roughly a fourth of the battery to a STANDBY drain in 24h is just, well, nuts.
Maybe just to make sure: We are not talking about active drain from using 4G/5G, yes? We are talking about STANDBY drain here in this thread? So we are talking about a phone merely getting a background connection IN CASE the user wants to activate mobile data?
It's clearly either a hardware issue or a software/android 12 bug.
There are also several people on the "official" Pixel community site talking about their P6 Pros and an insane battery drain caused by mobile network standby, one of the threads as an example:
How to stop "Mobile network standby" from draining my battery. - Android Community
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Only 29%?? *Cries*
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Seems to be about what i got. I just realized it was 39% on my last charge cycle.
I was using dual sim though, one physical and one e-sim. The physical one is from my old country as i still only activate it for 2fa only (no roaming, no call, no nothing) and the e-sim is local where i live now (europe).
Im going to try and disable the physical sim when i sleep tonight, and see where it goes in the morning when i wake up. Currently i have 54% charge left, and mobile network standby is using 26% already. Geez. Im working from home so its pretty much all wifi.
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Your SoT is definitely good enough, but damn man this standby drain is beyond good and evil. To lose roughly a fourth of the battery to a STANDBY drain in 24h is just, well, nuts.
Maybe just to make sure: We are not talking about active drain from using 4G/5G, yes? We are talking about STANDBY drain here in this thread? So we are talking about a phone merely getting a background connection IN CASE the user wants to activate mobile data?
It's clearly either a hardware issue or a software/android 12 bug.
There are also several people on the "official" Pixel community site talking about their P6 Pros and an insane battery drain caused by mobile network standby, one of the threads as an example:
How to stop "Mobile network standby" from draining my battery. - Android Community
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Yes we are talking about standby network battery consumption. Imagine a phone for 999€ where standby network drain sucks 3 times more juice as the display. Pixel 6 Pro.
Regardless of network standby drain, or any other measurable metric, I find it hard to believe that 5-7 hr SOT isn't satisfactory batt life in the opinion of some.
Would these people be happier if network standby was super low but SOT was less that 7 hours?
I'm not sure why people get so bent about a device they can only use for 5-7 hours before they have to plug it in.
Are people really on their phone 80% of an 8 hour work day? Or are there that many people who don't have access to an outlet or car charger after they leave the house?
Is there some hidden shame to plugging a device in during lunch or a break to add 15% battery life for the longer 10 hr days?
I get those who are nerded out by squeezing absolutely every available SOT minute they can from their device because it's a challenge to them, and they love tweaking every possible component... I was that guy at one time.
To say that a device sucks and isn't worth the price voluntarily paid for it because it doesn't last an entire day without a charge just baffles my mind.
Of course every person is allowed their opinion, for sure. I just don't get the basis behind some of the opinions.
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Your SoT is definitely good enough, but damn man this standby drain is beyond good and evil. To lose roughly a fourth of the battery to a STANDBY drain in 24h is just, well, nuts.
Maybe just to make sure: We are not talking about active drain from using 4G/5G, yes? We are talking about STANDBY drain here in this thread? So we are talking about a phone merely getting a background connection IN CASE the user wants to activate mobile data?
It's clearly either a hardware issue or a software/android 12 bug.
There are also several people on the "official" Pixel community site talking about their P6 Pros and an insane battery drain caused by mobile network standby, one of the threads as an example:
How to stop "Mobile network standby" from draining my battery. - Android Community
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Just to be clear, the 22% network standby isn't 22% of total battery capacity, it is 22% of the 40% of battery capacity I've used.
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Just to be clear, the 22% network standby isn't 22% of total battery capacity, it is 22% of the 40% of battery capacity I've used.
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Are the stats you posted with 5g or on lte only?
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Are the stats you posted with 5g or on lte only?
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Phone auto toggles from 5g to LTE.
Turn off "Adaptive Connectivity" in settings, network & internet
Just read this thread and check my network standby an it was 15% with 70% charge left on the phone.
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Regardless of network standby drain, or any other measurable metric, I find it hard to believe that 5-7 hr SOT isn't satisfactory batt life in the opinion of some.
Would these people be happier if network standby was super low but SOT was less that 7 hours?
I'm not sure why people get so bent about a device they can only use for 5-7 hours before they have to plug it in.
Are people really on their phone 80% of an 8 hour work day? Or are there that many people who don't have access to an outlet or car charger after they leave the house?
Is there some hidden shame to plugging a device in during lunch or a break to add 15% battery life for the longer 10 hr days?
I get those who are nerded out by squeezing absolutely every available SOT minute they can from their device because it's a challenge to them, and they love tweaking every possible component... I was that guy at one time.
To say that a device sucks and isn't worth the price voluntarily paid for it because it doesn't last an entire day without a charge just baffles my mind.
Of course every person is allowed their opinion, for sure. I just don't get the basis behind some of the opinions.
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How can you find your phone satisfactory if you know that the same model for the same price lasts for someone else 30% longer?????? How is this acceptable tell me.
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How can you find your phone satisfactory if you know that the same model for the same price lasts for someone else 30% longer?????? How is this acceptable tell me.
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Battery life is the most subjective topic there is. Take 100 different P6P owners and they'll use their devices 100 different ways. Half of them root, customize, use custom Roms or kernels, and run all sorts of mods.
Then they'll compare their devices battery life and wonder why such a vast difference.
Why do I find mine satisfactory even if someone else's device get better SOT or runs more efficiently?
Because my device's battery lasts much longer than I need it to, it shines in the areas I need it to shine, and I have plenty of access to outlets, a car charger, or a battery pack if needed.
I didn't buy a power supply, a TV , or a boom box... I bought an unlockable, rootable, customizable phone that more than suits my needs, and as an added benefit does a lot of other non-phone things that are cool and fun.
If the P6P isn't your cup of tea, get the device that lasts all day without needing to charge. If your stock device is performing below the level of other's stock devices, snd you usage is identical, I'd get a replacement. If your device is used differently, responds differently than other's whose devices are configured differently, you're basically comparing apples and oranges.
Not to mention these are highly sophisticated, intricately made, and technology packed very compact items. There are bound to be some that get past the QA process.
Az Biker said:
Battery life is the most subjective topic there is. Take 100 different P6P owners and they'll use their devices 100 different ways. Half of them root, customize, use custom Roms or kernels, and run all sorts of mods.
Then they'll compare their devices battery life and wonder why such a vast difference.
Why do I find mine satisfactory even if someone else's device get better SOT or runs more efficiently?
Because my device's battery lasts much longer than I need it to, it shines in the areas I need it to shine, and I have plenty of access to outlets, a car charger, or a battery pack if needed.
I didn't buy a power supply, a TV , or a boom box... I bought an unlockable, rootable, customizable phone that more than suits my needs, and as an added benefit does a lot of other non-phone things that are cool and fun.
If the P6P isn't your cup of tea, get the device that lasts all day without needing to charge. If your stock device is performing below the level of other's stock devices, snd you usage is identical, I'd get a replacement. If your device is used differently, responds differently than other's whose devices are configured differently, you're basically comparing apples and oranges.
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That's all irrelevant. I've been testing my pixel for a day in safe mode and the result was absolutely the same. The network standby was not dropping below 35%. I asked other users to test this too and they had it under 4%.
As I wrote this phone is already a replacement. It seems to be a lottery.