Hello,
Do you know is it there screen protector that covers the whole front part of the S3 (edge to edge ) with holes for home button speaker , etc ...
I was looking for such kind of protector but I only find these that cover only screen ...
Thank you beforehand !!!
I've got a Skinomi. It's a wet apply. Covers the whole front. It's smooth. Very little orange peel. I love it. Only problem I potentially see with it is, if you don't have a car to protect the edges, it may peel up. Otherwise, very nice.
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I have the xtremeguard (similar to zagg) minimal orange peel but for 2 bux shipped, wont complaint. BTW i think wet set films are the only that cover fully. the self adhesive hard films wont because of the "Curve" that the screen has. They make the protectors short to prevent lifting and air bubbles.
Ok so you bought a zenfone 3. Beautiful little piece of hardware isn't it ? The glass and metal design looks premium alright but it would be a pity if you got the screen all scratched or shattered. Remember that gorilla glass 3 is scratch resistant not scratch proof and it can be scratched quite easily by dust particles and sand. Also it can be easily shattered like any glass. Only sapphire glass can be called scratch proof but you won't see sapphire glass mass produced for smartphones screens any time soon because it's too expensive and very difficult to produce for larger surfaces.
So the best way to protect your precious screen is by applying a sheet of tempered glass. It has a higher scratch resistance than gorilla glass and it is designed to shatter on impact to dissipate the shock energy that would otherwise destroy the screen glass. It is very easy to apply on smartphones with flat screen surface but there's a catch. There is a new design that's being implemented on smartphones screens for a while now with curved margins and all which is generically called 2.5d glass. Zenfone 3 features such a screen. So what's the problem you may ask ?
Well long story short this means you can't apply a flat tempered glass on a screen with rounded margins without the manufacturer being forced to reduce its dimensions to only cover the flat surface, unless you can find a manufacturer that produces tempered glass with curved margins. So far I could only find such screen protectors for the Galaxy Edge series. They are nowhere to be found for our beloved asus zenfone 3 for example.
So yeah there are plenty of flat screen protectors for the zenfone 3. I myself got one from Nillkin. It is carefully dimensioned to only cover the lcd on the left and right margins. Problem is that the curvature of the screen starts somewhere from 1-2mm from the inner side of the lcd depending on the manufacturing tolerances. This means that even if you perfectly position the tempered glass there will still be 1-2mm on the margins that will hang in midair because it can't stick to the curvature. From what I could find this issue is commonly referred to as the "halo effect". And it's ugly as f*ck.
So there's good news and bad news. Good news is that I've found a way to properly apply the tempered glass even on the margins. Bad news is that you need some tools you won't find in the original package, namely a VISE (yes, that thing on the WinZIP icon) and SILICONE OIL or VASELINE (both have to be perfectly clear with absolutely no colour and make sure they don't change colour in time).
I only did this once with a Nillkin tempered glass for my ze520kl but it should work for any curved screen.
Ready ? Ok so go ahead and perform the steps as indicated on the original packaging (clean the screen with the alcohol wipe, dry the screen with the dry wipe, dedust the screen with the anti-static sticker, perfectly align the screen protector and apply it). Obviously it won't stick to the margins so here comes the hard part.
This is going to take a lot of patience but not much effort. The key to sticking to the margins is a lot of constant pressure and if that fails this is where the silicone oil comes in handy to fill the gap between the screen and screen protector.
So this is what I did to get a perfectly applied tempered glass on my zenfone 3.
-First I tried to fill the gap on the margins with a drop of silicon oil and then I applied pressure on the margin intermittently with my thumb to help the silicon oil to get inside the gap easier then I wiped the excess. The purpose of the silicone oil is to create a clear visco-elastic medium, a bridge if you like, for the light to travel between the screen and the screen protector without changing path (without too much refraction). Problem is that it can't fill the whole void and you still get a bit of halo here and there as there is still some air trapped within the adhesive.
-This is the part where the vise comes in handy. I strongly recommend you use a vise with rubber protection on the jaws (or whatever they're called). You could in theory do this with your thumbs but it is very hard and tiring and you can't apply constant pressure for a long time.
So I fitted a margin of the screen in the vise and tightened the jaws hardly enough to forcefully compress the adhesive and remove the air bubbles trapped inside but soft enough not to actually crack or damage the touchscreen. Then I left it in there for about 1 hour on each of the 4 sides. If there was still some air trapped in the adhesive I would apply some pressure with my thumb to stir it a little and then I put it back in the vise and leave it for a while longer until there would be no air left.
After 4-5 hours I got a perfectly applied screen protector on my zenfone 3 with no halo effect on the margins.
Since I've never done this before I have no idea how long this will last and if the problem will ever occur again. But if it does then all you need to do is just apply some more silicon oil periodically and you're done. There won't be the need for the vise anymore.
Good luck and I hope this bit of information will help someone in the long run to develop and perfect the method. I doubt the average user has a vise installed on his/her desk so this tutorial is mostly intended for the more savvy people. Don't blame me if it doesn't work for you or if you damaged your phone.
Also, I suspect that on various models of smartphones there won't be the need for the silicone oil and all you need is just some good constant pressure.
Has anyone thought about using OEM glass replacement as screen protector? I was thinking perhaps use LOCA glue to lay it down on existing glass. I mean, it's got a perfect fit and strong as the original. But I started wondering how it will affect the touch sensitivity, camera, sensors and case fitment.
I was searching for protector for N8 and came across a product that is basically that but with cutouts for sensors so it got me thinking. The cheapest glass replacement for N8 is currently $30 on Amazon so that's not too bad considering the alternative. As long as the glue can be removed with heat, I don't see why I should spend $15 or more for something worse. And I don't think it will be too difficult to squeeze out the glue to thinnest without introducing bubble since they are perfect fit. Curves are nice but it's PIA to protect it...
What do you guys think?
So I cracked my front glass under the bottom speaker exactly on the 8th day of owning my new pixel 2 xl :crying:
Thought about selling it as is but I would lose so much money also a screen replacement will set me back at least $200 without labor (Plus it's not available in my country)
I tried to look for a full coverage tempered glass screen protector that would cover this part (in black) but all the tempered glass screen protectors I could find do not cover the glass under the speaker
Last option I found was applying a Dbrand skin on the phone including the front glass that would cover that crack up but I have a few questions:
1. Would the Dbrand skin stick to the cracked part (there small missing pieces of glass that have fallen out)
2. Would removing the Dbrand front glass skin remove more glass from my phone
3. I thought about applying some transparent nail polish to the cracked part so it would hold the glass together so when I take off the skin the glass doesn't come out, good idea or stupid?
4. Should I apply the front Dbrand skin on top of a tempered glass screen protector (I read that it works) or should I apply it directly on the screen better?
I've attached 2 pictures of the cracked part so you can take a look
I really would appreciate all the help I can get as I am currently heartbroken for my new phone
Sab3elbromba said:
So I cracked my front glass under the bottom speaker exactly on the 8th day of owning my new pixel 2 xl :crying:
Thought about selling it as is but I would lose so much money also a screen replacement will set me back at least $200 without labor (Plus it's not available in my country)
I tried to look for a full coverage tempered glass screen protector that would cover this part (in black) but all the tempered glass screen protectors I could find do not cover the glass under the speaker
Last option I found was applying a Dbrand skin on the phone including the front glass that would cover that crack up but I have a few questions:
1. Would the Dbrand skin stick to the cracked part (there small missing pieces of glass that have fallen out)
2. Would removing the Dbrand front glass skin remove more glass from my phone
3. I thought about applying some transparent nail polish to the cracked part so it would hold the glass together so when I take off the skin the glass doesn't come out, good idea or stupid?
4. Should I apply the front Dbrand skin on top of a tempered glass screen protector (I read that it works) or should I apply it directly on the screen better?
I've attached 2 pictures of the cracked part so you can take a look
I really would appreciate all the help I can get as I am currently heartbroken for my new phone
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If you do not find a practical Dbrand solution, you could use a tiny pinpoint application of clear resin on the cracks to even things out.
Sad for this to happen.....
Sab3elbromba said:
So I cracked my front glass under the bottom speaker exactly on the 8th day of owning my new pixel 2 xl :crying:
Thought about selling it as is but I would lose so much money also a screen replacement will set me back at least $200 without labor (Plus it's not available in my country)
I tried to look for a full coverage tempered glass screen protector that would cover this part (in black) but all the tempered glass screen protectors I could find do not cover the glass under the speaker
Last option I found was applying a Dbrand skin on the phone including the front glass that would cover that crack up but I have a few questions:
1. Would the Dbrand skin stick to the cracked part (there small missing pieces of glass that have fallen out)
2. Would removing the Dbrand front glass skin remove more glass from my phone
3. I thought about applying some transparent nail polish to the cracked part so it would hold the glass together so when I take off the skin the glass doesn't come out, good idea or stupid?
4. Should I apply the front Dbrand skin on top of a tempered glass screen protector (I read that it works) or should I apply it directly on the screen better?
I've attached 2 pictures of the cracked part so you can take a look
I really would appreciate all the help I can get as I am currently heartbroken for my new phone
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Try invisishield, loca based screen protector
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...visshield-true-fit-adhesive-tempered-t3725161
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Try invisishield, loca based screen protector
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...visshield-true-fit-adhesive-tempered-t3725161
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Doesn't cover the glass piece under the bottom speaker which is where the crack is
Sab3elbromba said:
Doesn't cover the glass piece under the bottom speaker which is where the crack is
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Yes but you can use the local glue to stop the crack and also provide protection to the glass
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Yes but you can use the local glue to stop the crack and also provide protection to the glass
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I think a Dbrand skin would probably be best specially that it will cover up the crack completely for protection and so I don't see it and weep every time I pickup my phone
However covering the crack with Glue (I thought about transparent nail polish) is a good idea so when the skin comes off it doesn't take any more glass with it, do you have any ideas what I can use on the crack before applying the Dbrand skin?
UV loca glue...
The automatic correction transform it to local...
siggey said:
Yes but you can use the local glue to stop the crack and also provide protection to the glass
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siggey said:
UV loca glue...
The automatic correction transform it to local...
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That's a great idea, I will give it a shot. Thanks!
michaelbsheldon said:
If you do not find a practical Dbrand solution, you could use a tiny pinpoint application of clear resin on the cracks to even things out.
Sad for this to happen.....
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What kind of resin should I use? I say this because I bought my Pixel 2 XL used for $300 and it has almost the same crack as the OP's pixel, but just on a much larger scale.
Here's the photo.
Could anyone give some advice on how to fill that patch up, as I don't really think that any kind of screen protector nor skin would ever help! Thanks a lot!
P.S.: the crack doesn't come up even a bit to the screen, so the POLED is safe and sound under the glass, but still, I hate that dust and water can get in so easily.
Plus, I had my Pixel for 3 months now, and the crack didn't make shards of glass fall out and the phone works flawlessly, apart from the Lost IP67 water & dust resistant rating.
MrMagicPotato said:
What kind of resin should I use? I say this because I bought my Pixel 2 XL used for $300 and it has almost the same crack as the OP's pixel, but just on a much larger scale.
Here's the photo.
Could anyone give some advice on how to fill that patch up, as I don't really think that any kind of screen protector nor skin would ever help! Thanks a lot!
P.S.: the crack doesn't come up even a bit to the screen, so the POLED is safe and sound under the glass, but still, I hate that dust and water can get in so easily.
Plus, I had my Pixel for 3 months now, and the crack didn't make shards of glass fall out and the phone works flawlessly, apart from the Lost IP67 water & dust resistant rating.
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Clear jeweler's resin like this should work good: https://www.amazon.com/Environmental-Technology-02004-EnviroTex-Jewelry/dp/B007PZW60U The kind that mixes 2 clear liquids- resin and catalyst - will cure as hard as stone and stay clear.
MrMagicPotato said:
What kind of resin should I use? I say this because I bought my Pixel 2 XL used for $300 and it has almost the same crack as the OP's pixel, but just on a much larger scale.
Here's the photo.
Could anyone give some advice on how to fill that patch up, as I don't really think that any kind of screen protector nor skin would ever help! Thanks a lot!
P.S.: the crack doesn't come up even a bit to the screen, so the POLED is safe and sound under the glass, but still, I hate that dust and water can get in so easily.
Plus, I had my Pixel for 3 months now, and the crack didn't make shards of glass fall out and the phone works flawlessly, apart from the Lost IP67 water & dust resistant rating.
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In my case I intend to cover up the crack with a Dbrand skin on the glass, my worry is that the glass will come out when I take the skin off so I just wanted something to hold it together, if this your case too then I suggest you try what I will in couple of days: Sugru
I tweeted my problem to ifixit and they were kind enough to reply with the suggestion to use sugru to hold the glass together : https://twitter.com/Sab3elbromba/status/1028976749873430528
When I did a little googling I found this: https://lifehacker.com/patch-your-broken-smartphone-screen-with-sugru-1440578257
It's not the prettiest thing in the world but I don't care as I will cover it up with a Dbrand skin anyways
I hope that was helpful and sorry for what happened
Sab3elbromba said:
So I cracked my front glass under the bottom speaker exactly on the 8th day of owning my new pixel 2 xl :crying:
Thought about selling it as is but I would lose so much money also a screen replacement will set me back at least $200 without labor (Plus it's not available in my country)
I tried to look for a full coverage tempered glass screen protector that would cover this part (in black) but all the tempered glass screen protectors I could find do not cover the glass under the speaker
Last option I found was applying a Dbrand skin on the phone including the front glass that would cover that crack up but I have a few questions:
1. Would the Dbrand skin stick to the cracked part (there small missing pieces of glass that have fallen out)
2. Would removing the Dbrand front glass skin remove more glass from my phone
3. I thought about applying some transparent nail polish to the cracked part so it would hold the glass together so when I take off the skin the glass doesn't come out, good idea or stupid?
4. Should I apply the front Dbrand skin on top of a tempered glass screen protector (I read that it works) or should I apply it directly on the screen better?
I've attached 2 pictures of the cracked part so you can take a look
I really would appreciate all the help I can get as I am currently heartbroken for my new phone
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Use a CAR WINDSHIELD REPAIR KIT. It should be able to make that chip nearly invisible, and will also hold the glass together so it doesn't get any worse.
if you bought it with a credit card, it probably has accidental damage protection for the first 30 or 90 days
96carboard said:
Use a CAR WINDSHIELD REPAIR KIT. It should be able to make that chip nearly invisible, and will also hold the glass together so it doesn't get any worse.
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How about LOCA Glue? (LOCA stands for liquid optically clear adhesive)
It is used by most manufacturerers for their smartphones screens, to attach the glass to the lower OLED stratum specifically because it's completely invisible as the name implies.
I fear that the car windshield repair kit is going to disrupt the screen and penetrate too deep with the pressure applied to fill cracks. How do you feel about it?
Could you give me some pieces of advice for using it the best way? Thanks a lot for the support! @Sab3elbromba @96carboard
Yeah cracked the top of mine yesterday. Stubborn me wasn't using a case. I'm gonna save up and just get it replaced. Was thinking about getting a Pixel 3 this year...guess not.
Not saying this is the right thing to do or that it will 100% work but, it for for sure a possibility.
1. Burn in the screen and RMA claiming a screen burn in.
2. Make something look defective and RMA it
3. Replace the screen yourself
Not suggesting any of these just listing options.
MitchellArtz said:
Not saying this is the right thing to do or that it will 100% work but, it for for sure a possibility.
1. Burn in the screen and RMA claiming a screen burn in.
2. Make something look defective and RMA it
3. Replace the screen yourself
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1.fraud
2.fraud
3.good idea about 140 bucks or so
4.if in the USA ubreakifix will repair it for 219.99 and you will still have a warranty.
fiffan86 said:
1.fraud
2.fraud
3.good idea about 140 bucks or so
4.if in the USA ubreakifix will repair it for 219.99 and you will still have a warranty.
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I wasn't suggesting 1 and 2. I was just listing options
I'm really disappointed in the fragility of the glass around the speaker grilles. My cousin dropped his Pixel 2 XL with a Speck Presidio Grip case on, landing back first, and the glass around the top speaker cracked and spread a bit to the screen; even a chunk of glass fell out. From drop tests online, this area appears to break very easily. Why can't Samsung make Pixels? When comparing the Note 8 and Pixel 2 XL side by side, the screen on the 2 XL feels hollow and less reinforced. Google really should do what Motorola used to and offer one free replacement for accidental breakage.
Guyinlaca said:
I'm really disappointed in the fragility of the glass around the speaker grilles. My cousin dropped his Pixel 2 XL with a Speck Presidio Grip case on, landing back first, and the glass around the top speaker cracked and spread a bit to the screen; even a chunk of glass fell out. From drop tests online, this area appears to break very easily. Why can't Samsung make Pixels? When comparing the Note 8 and Pixel 2 XL side by side, the screen on the 2 XL feels hollow and less reinforced. Google really should do what Motorola used to and offer one free replacement for accidental breakage.
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Samsung is in direct competition with Google.
Just imagine if Samsung hardware got optimized directly by Google software. Wow. A Note 9 running pure Google's made Android. A dream.
I bought an Edge to Edge tempered glass from good mobile accessory shop and got it fitted in my Mi10 by a professional technician there itself.After a week or so there developed one or two air bubbles in the screen and they began to grow big covering half of my screen.So I approached the shop again and they repalaced the glass with a new one.After about 2 weeks there began to develop air bubbles again and they growing in size gradually.My had not dropped anywhere from me or others.So what is the reason for this?If I replace the tempered glass with a Screen Protector film,can the developing of air bubbles be completely prevented?Aso will this actually protect the phone screen glass from breaking in the event of a fall?Can anyone suggest a good quality Tempered glass and good quality Scree Protector Film?
pnsdhrn said:
I bought an Edge to Edge tempered glass from good mobile accessory shop and got it fitted in my Mi10 by a professional technician there itself.After a week or so there developed one or two air bubbles in the screen and they began to grow big covering half of my screen.So I approached the shop again and they repalaced the glass with a new one.After about 2 weeks there began to develop air bubbles again and they growing in size gradually.My had not dropped anywhere from me or others.So what is the reason for this?If I replace the tempered glass with a Screen Protector film,can the developing of air bubbles be completely prevented?Aso will this actually protect the phone screen glass from breaking in the event of a fall?Can anyone suggest a good quality Tempered glass and good quality Scree Protector Film?
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It will offer some protection but if the phone lands a certain way the screen is going to crack regardless of what you've got on.
I just used a basic film one but the fingerprint is a bit crap. Glass ones never fitted right.
Hey you can try using Siege Glastimate+ for Galaxy S20+. It's a UV glue tempered glass. Price is quite high but it is really case friendly tbh bc im using the glass with my Ringke Fusion-X casing with no problem. And also the tempered glass has no touch issues whatsoever bc it is a UV glue not like normal tempered glass with edge only glue. And for the back panel I'm using a cheap carbon fibre sticker to avoid scratches haha
I bought the one from *******.. to much of my surprise it actually is quite good.
Installation was easy with an included guide/holder. The film has 2 parts that lets you apply the top half first then the bottom.
It's super thin, like what you'd see from the factory. The TPU film is also really smooth.
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https://www.amazon.com/*******-Protector-Display-Fingerprint-Support/dp/B085DB4T83
Not sure why it's putting *** in place of the brand name
Did you test Spigen? The one applied from default is really poor, it is scratched very easily
tlxxxsracer said:
I bought the one from *******.. to much of my surprise it actually is quite good.
Installation was easy with an included guide/holder. The film has 2 parts that lets you apply the top half first then the bottom.
It's super thin, like what you'd see from the factory. The TPU film is also really smooth.
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https://www.amazon.com/*******-Protector-Display-Fingerprint-Support/dp/B085DB4T83
Not sure why it's putting *** in place of the brand name
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Did any of you found a good screen protector that is case friendly? I want to use it with a Spigen case. Thanks!