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Hey guys, I am new to whyred , flashed alot on other phones tho. Got some questions regarding the process of things I have to do to not mess up. I would do it like this:
0. I am on 9.5.19. miui global stable.
1. Unlock bootloader after 360 hours (hopefully)
2. Boot into Fastboot, boot up twrp image via command and then flash twrp via twrp.
3. Do I have to flash lazyflasher when I flash magisk? Which version of magisk is recommended atm? 1600?
4. After flashing one (or both, I don't know) I would go with flashing aosip or havoc (which is better on battery, features and over all performance?).
5. Do I have to flash some firmware or anything?
6. Since I am on Anti 4 (probably, didn't check yet but I am quite sure since I updated on 9.5.19) do I have to be aware of something else important?
Thank you guys for every help. If my answers will get answered and everything runs smooth sailing I will write a noob/starting guide to focus the knowledge a bit more. It seems really clustered in this forum

Do not flash any firmware for now. Since your are in 9.5.19 it has anti 4 enabled.. flashing firmware over anti 4 will brick your device.
Unlock bootloader
Boot to twrp and flash twrp
Wipe system cache dataa and flash custom ROM and gapps
Reboot to system
Reboot to twrp and flash magisk

SunilSuni said:
Do not flash any firmware for now. Since your are in 9.5.19 it has anti 4 enabled.. flashing firmware over anti 4 will brick your device.
Unlock bootloader
Boot to twrp and flash twrp
Wipe system cache dataa and flash custom ROM and gapps
Reboot to system
Reboot to twrp and flash magisk
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I still at 9.2.13 didn't update to 9.5.19 in that case I can flash and roll back to any firmware below antilock right?

Username.php said:
I still at 9.2.13 didn't update to 9.5.19 in that case I can flash and roll back to any firmware below antilock right?
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Yes. If you are in 9.2.13 build then you have to flash firmware along with custom ROM.
But if you are running 9.5.19 build do not flash any firmware. Just ROM and gapps is enough

SunilSuni said:
Yes. If you are in 9.2.13 build then you have to flash firmware along with custom ROM.
But if you are running 9.5.19 build do not flash any firmware. Just ROM and gapps is enough
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Which firmware are you referring to? You mean I can roll back or do I have update to certain firmware to flash custom Roms?

Username.php said:
Which firmware are you referring to? You mean I can roll back or do I have update to certain firmware to flash custom Roms?
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Yes you have to flash firmware file recommended by custom rom developer to avoid problems while using custom ROM. And its not related to anti rollback protection.
All the firmware recommended by developers doesnt have anti rollback protection but you shouldn't flash firmware file if you are using 9.5.19 stable build or 8.7.12 beta build because these build contains ARP and flashing firmware in ARP enabled device will brick your mobile

SunilSuni said:
Yes you have to flash firmware file recommended by custom rom developer to avoid problems while using custom ROM. And its not related to anti rollback protection.
All the firmware recommended by developers doesnt have anti rollback protection but you shouldn't flash firmware file if you are using 9.5.19 stable build or 8.7.12 beta build because these build contains ARP and flashing firmware in ARP enabled device will brick your mobile
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I'm a bit confused here. I have always been under the impression that firmware = ROM (with other phone brands) and they seem to be discussed interchangeably. Now with my Xiaomi Note 5 Pro, I hear about these as separate items a lot. What is the difference between firmware and the custom ROM, at least in the Xiaomi world? How do I know when I am dealing with one or the other?
TIA,

eisenbergw said:
I'm a bit confused here. I have always been under the impression that firmware = ROM (with other phone brands) and they seem to be discussed interchangeably. Now with my Xiaomi Note 5 Pro, I hear about these as separate items a lot. What is the difference between firmware and the custom ROM, at least in the Xiaomi world? How do I know when I am dealing with one or the other?
TIA,
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Your understanding is correct firmware is nothing but a ROM, but in custom ROM, developers dont include bootloader (In custom ROM world firmware contains bootloader related stuffs) in their OS because they will make use of bootloader from stock ROM thats why developer recommended firmware files so that their ROM works perfectly without any problem.
I might be wrong but this is how things work here. If you are on lastest global MIUI beta ROM then you dont have to flash recommended firmware file by custom ROM developer

SunilSuni said:
Your understanding is correct firmware is nothing but a ROM, but in custom ROM, developers dont include bootloader (In custom ROM world firmware contains bootloader related stuffs) in their OS because they will make use of bootloader from stock ROM thats why developer recommended firmware files so that their ROM works perfectly without any problem.
I might be wrong but this is how things work here. If you are on lastest global MIUI beta ROM then you dont have to flash recommended firmware file by custom ROM developer
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So when people talk about flashing firmware, they're really saying to flash/change the bootloader? Does the bootloader have a name, version number we would reference, or it's just 'the bootloader for MIUI Global 9..5.19.0'?
If I understand you correctly, if someone offers a ROM with and without firmware, you could install the ROM without firmware and it would work ok, but installing with the firmware (changing the bootloader) would make the ROM work better? Or just do the ROM with firmware if you have problems with the version that didn't install the firmware/bootloader?
I'm on MIUI Global 9.5.19.0. (just normal ROM), but with unlocked bootloader, twrp, Magisk installed (I can't work without my Titanium Backup Pro!)

eisenbergw said:
So when people talk about flashing firmware, they're really saying to flash/change the bootloader? Does the bootloader have a name, version number we would reference, or it's just 'the bootloader for MIUI Global 9..5.19.0'?
If I understand you correctly, if someone offers a ROM with and without firmware, you could install the ROM without firmware and it would work ok, but installing with the firmware (changing the bootloader) would make the ROM work better? Or just do the ROM with firmware if you have problems with the version that didn't install the firmware/bootloader?
I'm on MIUI Global 9.5.19.0. (just normal ROM), but with unlocked bootloader, twrp, Magisk installed (I can't work without my Titanium Backup Pro!)
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Most of the firmware recommended by developers contains older bootloader (Antirollback protection version 3)
Since you are in 9.5.19 your bootloader has Antirollback protection (ARP 4) so if you try to flash older firmware then your mobile will get bricked so avoid flashing any firmware recommended by developer because you already have latest bootloader
Firmware name will be based on global beta ROM version

Need some advices please

Hi all,
I'm trying to flash the global ROM on my Whyred. However, it's currently already on the latest MIUI 10.0.0.1 (OEICNFH). I've confirmed it has anti rollback (4) enabled already.
What's my best move right now? Do I unlock the bootloader and then... ?
Or do I wait for the latest global 10.0.0.1 and flash that via fastboot? Not too sure what to do now.
Or can I simply flash the latest MIUI 10 8.8.30 beta via MIUI recovery - http://bigota.d.miui.com/8.8.30/miui_HMNote5HMNote5ProGlobal_8.8.30_4996e76420_8.1.zip

You. Cannot flash global ROM using updater app but you can flash miui10 global beta using fastboot method
Before flashing miui10 global beta just confirm antirollback version in miui10.0.0.1
If it is anti: 4 then you can flash all ROMs (including stable) which has anti version 4

Thanks for your reply! I'm on anti 4 atm.
I need to unlock bootloader before I can flash using fastboot right?
And looks like you can use fastboot flash commands in CMD, or use MiFlash (which also uses the fastboot ROM). I presume both requires an unlocked bootloader either way?

Yes you have to unlock bootloader to flash fastboot ROM

Thanks, I know how to do that
Just to confirm, even though the MIUI 10 Global beta is v8.8.30, which is a lower version than the MIUI 10 Chinese Stable 10.0.0.1, it's still OK to flash? They both came out on August 30th, so I'm assuming it's OK to flash from one to another and vice versa, without getting the phone bricked?
https://www.theandroidsoul.com/xiaomi-redmi-note-5-pro-update/

enter this commands
fastboot getvar anti
to know the antirollabck version, if it is anti 4 in MIUI10.0.0.1 then you can flash MIUI 8.8.30

Yup it's anti 4.
I thought the anti rollback prevents you from "downgrading" to a lower firmware? I'm a bit confused why stable 10.0.0.1 can be upgraded to 8.8.30 beta, even though the version seems to be lower. I guess it's just a naming convention difference for the stable and beta firmwares?

Then you can switch between any anti 4 ROMs
Yes beta ROM naming convention follows present date month year format
8.8.30 indicates
2018/08/30
Next beta update name will be 8.9.6
And yes antirollback prevents you from downgrading to older version of bootloader
9.5.17 ROM and previous ROM has anti3 so you cannot rollback to those version
For China stable it is 9.5.21 and you cannot rollback to 8.5.6 beta ROM these ROM
So be careful while flashing older version this may brick your device and no problem while downgrading anti4 enabled ROM

Perfect, that makes a lot of sense now.
Thank you very much!

Go back to MIUI Redmi Note 5?

Hello, I have installed some days ago HavocOS, but I'm experiencing some crashes on apps I do use regularly, so I want to go back to MIUI, but I'm scared to brick my device because the antirollback, I do know my last MIUI version installed was something like 10.0.6.0, but I dont know if it's exactly the same that is in Xiaomi official download page. What should I do to not brick my device? Can I install the developer ROM with no issues? Or how could I know what ROM exactly I had before? I have no backup of MIUI whatsoever and my anti-rollback code is 4.. Thanks in advance.

Boot phone to fastboot and check your ARB version with this command:
fastboot getvar anti
I think you will have ARB 4 version.
You can only brick your phone when you will downgrade ARB 4 -> ARB 3.
Then download latest MIUI stable (1.0.0.6) from xiaomi website (fastboot version) and flash it with miflash.

Visit en.miui.com/a-234.html
Download fastboot rom and flash it using miflash

What about twrp backup of miui 10?? Will restoreing it brick my phone??

install latest pitchblack recoveryfrom here then install any miui recovery rom you want

Need help about ARB

Hi, just a little bit of confusion here about arb. I have bought rn5 pro from someone and its miui version is 10.3.1 stable which to me is the latest version available now. My question is, is it ok if i want to miflash this device to its current version 10.3.1 with clean all tick? I want to format this phone, unlock bootloader and install custom rom. Another question is, can i install latest xiaomi.eu rom which is version 10.3.1 also? Since its the same version of my current miui. Will it be safe? My last question about arb is, so it is not safe for us to downgrade the phone because of arb is it correct? But as long as its just upgrading the firmware, its just fine? Thank you

Upgrading is ok. For downgrading just make sure, that build you are trying to flash has exactly the same arb level as the one you are currently using

kraken77 said:
Hi, just a little bit of confusion here about arb. I have bought rn5 pro from someone and its miui version is 10.3.1 stable which to me is the latest version available now. My question is, is it ok if i want to miflash this device to its current version 10.3.1 with clean all tick? I want to format this phone, unlock bootloader and install custom rom. Another question is, can i install latest xiaomi.eu rom which is version 10.3.1 also? Since its the same version of my current miui. Will it be safe? My last question about arb is, so it is not safe for us to downgrade the phone because of arb is it correct? But as long as its just upgrading the firmware, its just fine? Thank you
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yes miflash will flash the rom as it left from factory. using fastboot rom and miflash to start clean is the way to go. dont need to flash this way all the time only when theres something strange in rom that cant be fixed.
yes you can install xiaomi.EU stable is 10.4 i beleive. for this you will flash in twrp.
downgrade is possible as long as the rom is the same ARB as the phone.
Step One
Turn your phone to fasboot mode
Connect your Redmi Note 5 to PC with USB
Step Two
in PC go to C:\adb\
Push shift + Right Click
select Open Command window here
In CMD write this
fastboot devices
then write
fastboot getvar anti
it should say ARB4 so you can downgrade to any ARB4 rom.

raptorddd said:
yes miflash will flash the rom as it left from factory. using fastboot rom and miflash to start clean is the way to go. dont need to flash this way all the time only when theres something strange in rom that cant be fixed.
yes you can install xiaomi.EU stable is 10.4 i beleive. for this you will flash in twrp.
downgrade is possible as long as the rom is the same ARB as the phone.
Step One
Turn your phone to fasboot mode
Connect your Redmi Note 5 to PC with USB
Step Two
in PC go to C:\adb\
Push shift + Right Click
select Open Command window here
In CMD write this
fastboot devices
then write
fastboot getvar anti
it should say ARB4 so you can downgrade to any ARB4 rom.
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Thank you for the explaination sir. One more thing. My account is authorize for edl flashing. Should i not be worried about arb and hard brick?

kraken77 said:
Thank you for the explaination sir. One more thing. My account is authorize for edl flashing. Should i not be worried about arb and hard brick?
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i dont know anything regarding edl account. not sure what is the differnce.

want to roll back miui 11 to miui 10

please help
flashed miui 11 beta rom via twrp recovery,its too buggy,i lost my custom recovery(twrp),i am trying to flash a custom recovery,its not working ,booting to custom recovery internal memmory 0, i want to roll back miui10.bootloader unlocked already
sry for my bad english

Flash miui10 fastboot rom using miflash

SunilSuni said:
Flash miui10 fastboot rom using miflash
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it is safe？

fasilpoochengal said:
it is safe？
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Yes it is safe.. fastboot method is always a safest method to flash MIUI ROM
Note : if your device is global variant then you can flash global ROM and lock your bootloader but if your device is Chinese variant then do not flash global ROM and lock bootloader

SunilSuni said:
Yes it is safe.. fastboot method is always a safest method to flash MIUI ROM
Note : if your device is global variant then you can flash global ROM and lock your bootloader but if your device is Chinese variant then do not flash global ROM and lock bootloader
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Thanks

So it's safe to rollback from stable miui 11 to miui 10 stable. Bootloader's unlocked, global phone global firmware. Prob do the fastboot procedure. TIA.

Why?

Hi i want to rollback my global stable 10.3.2 to 9.5.19 . Please guide me.
SunilSuni said:
Yes it is safe.. fastboot method is always a safest method to flash MIUI ROM
Note : if your device is global variant then you can flash global ROM and lock your bootloader but if your device is Chinese variant then do not flash global ROM and lock bootloader is loc
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My bootloader is locked. Can i flash through setting/ choose update package?

Rafiemvi said:
My bootloader is locked. Can i flash through setting/ choose update package?
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You have to flash 10.3.1 Oreo ROM and then you can flash older version

SunilSuni said:
You have to flash 10.3.1 Oreo ROM and then you can flash older version
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Thanx for responding. Need to know by which method i need to flash ? Fastboot with .tgz or zip file through choose update package? I tried flashing 9.5.19 zip file from choose update package it showed unable to flash old version.
Thank you.

Rafiemvi said:
Thanx for responding. Need to know by which method i need to flash ? Fastboot with .tgz or zip file through choose update package? I tried flashing 9.5.19 zip file from choose update package it showed unable to flash old version.
Thank you.
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Go for fastboot method (requires unlocked bootloader)