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Did anyone get the chance to see nomenclatures of US models? I'm mainly concerned about cross flashing, really hope it's gonna be possible this time around, unlike the s10 5g.
I think them days are long gone with the bootloaders been locked down for the US models
We've known the nomenclatures for a long time, ever since before the FCC filings. Standard Note 10 and Note 10+ will behave the same as Note 9 - crossflashing included. I've already posted both U and U1 firmware
dallen5 said:
I think them days are long gone with the bootloaders been locked down for the US models
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If it's signed by samsung wouldnt it not matter?
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Did anyone get the chance to see nomenclatures of US models? I'm mainly concerned about cross flashing, really hope it's gonna be possible this time around, unlike the s10 5g.
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10 and 10+, yes. 10+ 5g will only be Verizon as the radio is different and only supported on their network. So you can cross flash any Note 10 as long as it's not the 5g.
I know I am uneducated when it comes to these sorts of things and I apologize for my ignorance but if either of you could fill me in, I would love to know what exactly "crossflashing" is?
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I know I am uneducated when it comes to these sorts of things and I apologize for my ignorance but if either of you could fill me in, I would love to know what exactly "crossflashing" is?
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Flashing other carrier or unlocked firmware to your device since hardware wise there is no difference.
Example. On the note 9, ATT builds leaked early on quite a bit so if you wanted the latest before it was officially released you could flash it to your device as long as it was the same processor.
Even applied to the Pie beta that released for the unlocked models.
pcriz said:
Flashing other carrier or unlocked firmware to your device since hardware wise there is no difference.
Example. On the note 9, ATT builds leaked early on quite a bit so if you wanted the latest before it was officially released you could flash it to your device as long as it was the same processor.
Even applied to the Pie beta that released for the unlocked models.
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I attempted this on an S6 and could never successfully get the modems/radios to right... or maybe I had the data misconfigured? Who knows... but that is remarkable! If you don't mind me asking one more simple question, does this trip knox? Because I'd love to have the unlocked firmware on my VZW but I'm not sure of any specifics on the warranty. Although, I know if I ever DO have to send it in, I'll just brick it from the inside with wrong firmware.
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I attempted this on an S6 and could never successfully get the modems/radios to right... or maybe I had the data misconfigured? Who knows... but that is remarkable! If you don't mind me asking one more simple question, does this trip knox? Because I'd love to have the unlocked firmware on my VZW but I'm not sure of any specifics on the warranty. Although, I know if I ever DO have to send it in, I'll just brick it from the inside with wrong firmware.
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Nah. It won't trip Knox since the firmware being flashed is signed by Samsung.
You can always flash back to stock as well. Stock in this case being the software it shipped with.
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I attempted this on an S6 and could never successfully get the modems/radios to right... or maybe I had the data misconfigured? Who knows... but that is remarkable! If you don't mind me asking one more simple question, does this trip knox? Because I'd love to have the unlocked firmware on my VZW but I'm not sure of any specifics on the warranty. Although, I know if I ever DO have to send it in, I'll just brick it from the inside with wrong firmware.
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S6s are not cross-flashable. Samsung didn't start that until the S7 and Note 8
it would've been awesome since in the FCC docs shows that N975F (Exynos LTE) and N976B (Exynos EU 5G) have identical hardware!
also Verizon is using the SAME SKU model codes for both LTE and 5G models
i posted the details in reddit earlier (r/galaxynote10 titled "Crossflashing LTE <-> 5G Models?" sorry i can't posts link....10 post count thingy)
worth the shot?
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it would've been awesome since in the FCC docs shows that N975F (Exynos LTE) and N976B (Exynos EU 5G) have identical hardware!
also Verizon is using the SAME SKU model codes for both LTE and 5G models
i posted the details in reddit earlier (r/galaxynote10 titled "Crossflashing LTE <-> 5G Models?" sorry i can't posts link....10 post count thingy)
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1. N975F and N976B can't have identical hardware. The 5G model has 5G antennas, and the 4G model does not. I can guarantee you that firmware will not be cross-flashable between those 2 models.
2. Verizon is NOT using the same SKU codes for the 4G and the 5G models. The 4G model is N975U and the 5G model is N976V. I can guarantee you that firmware will not be cross-flashable between those 2 models.
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1. N975F and N976B can't have identical hardware. The 5G model has 5G antennas, and the 4G model does not. I can guarantee you that firmware will not be cross-flashable between those 2 models.
2. Verizon is NOT using the same SKU codes for the 4G and the 5G models. The 4G model is N975U and the 5G model is N976V. I can guarantee you that firmware will not be cross-flashable between those 2 models.
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that was my understanding too! yet fcc document explicitly says that n975f & n976b have identical antenna's and WWAN circuit! (i don't want to spam around just to get to the 10 posts count, sorry to post the link with spaces)
please check this out:
reddit . com/r/galaxynote10/comments/ctgxz5/crossflashing_lte_5g_models/
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that was my understanding too! yet fcc document explicitly says that n975f & n976b have identical antenna's and WWAN circuit! (i don't want to spam around just to get to the 10 posts count, sorry to post the link with spaces)
please check this out:
reddit . com/r/galaxynote10/comments/ctgxz5/crossflashing_lte_5g_models/
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I could not possibly be eyerolling any harder right now.
I'm sure that as far as the 4G hardware is concerned, yes, most of it is the same, same location, etc. But the FCC IDs for the 4G and 5G models are NOT the same. I promise you that the 4G models do NOT have a 5G antenna, and you will never be able to flash 5G firmware to a 4G device.
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I could not possibly be eyerolling any harder right now.
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i know i know, no need for the attitude
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I'm sure that as far as the 4G hardware is concerned, yes, most of it is the same, same location, etc. But the FCC IDs for the 4G and 5G models are NOT the same. I promise you that the 4G models do NOT have a 5G antenna, and you will never be able to flash 5G firmware to a 4G device.
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That's what I suspected initially, is that they meant the hardware is identical in the scope of that report, in other words, "as far as LTE is concerned". especially since the 5g chip is external to the SoC.
About verizon, to be clear, am not mindlessly hoping for a "free 5g", as clearly its not the case in hardware; but how would you explain Verizon using SM-N976VZKAVZW for the LTE SKU and SM-N976VZWAVZW for the 5G sku? is it simply a typo in samsungs' support website?
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ihow would you explain Verizon using SM-N976VZKAVZW for the LTE SKU and SM-N976VZWAVZW for the 5G sku? is it simply a typo in samsungs' support website?
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Yup. See all the other SKUs for the 4G N10+ on that page? They're all N975U
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Yup. See all the other SKUs for the 4G N10+ on that page? They're all N975U
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That makes perfect sense!
Flashing note 10+ 5g
Hello guys, I have a chance to buy a cheap sm-n976v with bad imei. Phone is locked by Verzion. I'm living in UK and I wonder if I flash the phone with sm-n976b firmware can I get it unlocked and fully working? Sammobile said that should be exactly same model. What is a difference between V and B firmwares? Or is better to pay for unlocking the phone instead flashing it? Can I flash it with European version without broke it?
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Hello guys, I have a chance to buy a cheap sm-n976v with bad imei. Phone is locked by Verzion. I'm living in UK and I wonder if I flash the phone with sm-n976b firmware can I get it unlocked and fully working? Sammobile said that should be exactly same model. What is a difference between V and B firmwares? Or is better to pay for unlocking the phone instead flashing it? Can I flash it with European version without broke it?
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You cannot flash any other firmware to that model - and even if you could, solely flashing firmware would not SIM unlock it. I can give you a recommendation for a 3rd party unlocking source if needed
Probably that will be better in this case. Thanks
Hello everyone!
I'm not too familiar with Samsung devices, I believe my last one was a Galaxy S4 ...
Anyhoo, I ordered a Note 10+ SM-N975W which is the Canadian variant with a Snapdragon 855 after reading it is superior to the Exynos version, however I'm European often travelling between the UK, Spain etc.
To get to my question
Is there any firmware I can flash on to my device for example N975W to N975F or even N975U1 which is US unlocked
I realise the chances of flashing N975F are slim as that device has the Exynos, but any help is greatly appreciated!
My carrier is EE not sure if that matters
You can only flash firmwares for snapdragon, NEVER firms for exynos
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You can only flash firmwares for snapdragon, NEVER firms for exynos
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Thank you for your reply!, I suspected this was the case.
With that being said!
Is there a firmware you'd recommend between N975U1 or N9750?
Both are Snapdragon variants the difference being that one is US Unlocked the other is China/Brazil
The only differences I imagine there is, is the timing of OTA updates?
I own an exynos model, what I know for sure is that the differences in snap firms are mainly about the bands supported, you must dig into this
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Thank you for your reply!, I suspected this was the case.
With that being said!
Is there a firmware you'd recommend between N975U1 or N9750?
Both are Snapdragon variants the difference being that one is US Unlocked the other is China/Brazil
The only differences I imagine there is, is the timing of OTA updates?
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The N9750 is supposed to be for the Snapdragon Dual Sim model.
If you need to flash a different firmware, I'd recommend you to go for the U1.
My old S8+ was originally W and I flashed the U1 firmware for "faster OTA's" but I always ended flashing newer version on my own.
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I own an exynos model, what I know for sure is that the differences in snap firms are mainly about the bands supported, you must dig into this
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Sorry just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly..
Flashing N975U1 will replace the bands?
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The N9750 is supposed to be for the Snapdragon Dual Sim model.
If you need to flash a different firmware, I'd recommend you to go for the U1.
My old S8+ was originally W and I flashed the U1 firmware for "faster OTA's" but I always ended flashing newer version on my own.
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Hello, thank you so much for your input, I will go with U1!
Am i correct in thinking the only things I'll be missing out on (as I'm in Europe)
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VoLTE, WiFi Calling & Samsung Pay?
Those 3 services are in some cases carrier dependant, some carriers only offer some services to devices distributed by them, specially volte and wifi calling, that is, they check the imei for that purpose
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Hello, thank you so much for your input, I will go with U1!
Am i correct in thinking the only things I'll be missing out on (as I'm in Europe)
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VoLTE, WiFi Calling & Samsung Pay?
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Wifi and VoLTE may or may not work. Samsung Pay is not carrier specific though. It should work fine.
Sent from my SM-N976V using Tapatalk
For what it's worth, I too have the N975W.
I just received it yesterday, but I did flash the Star Wars firmware from the N975U1 (generic US) and it had zero issues. As I understand, the N975W and N975U1 have the same hardware, and is ok to crossflash.
So I'm fairly new to the cross flashing process but highly intrigued by it and what kind of doors that could open up.. My question is when it comes to cross flashing, what version of Odin would be ideal in order to make sure the process is successful??
I can get my hands on a EU OnePlus 7t or 8 Pro but I want the NA LTE bands for Canada fully functional. I can see that you can switch the ROM, but I just want to confirm if that will allow me to have all the band's listed on their model?
If possible, I'd like to switch and not keep the phone rooted so I can use all apps normally. This possible? Thanks
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I can get my hands on a EU OnePlus 7t or 8 Pro but I want the NA LTE bands for Canada fully functional. I can see that you can switch the ROM, but I just want to confirm if that will allow me to have all the band's listed on their model?
If possible, I'd like to switch and not keep the phone rooted so I can use all apps normally. This possible? Thanks
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Afaik the ROM doesn't limit the bands. Imagine buying an unlocked device and travelling abroad. It wouldn't make sense to limit the functionality with software.
However, the hardware as limiting factor is a cost and compatibility choice. Hence, changing the ROM will not make your device compatible to more LTE bands.
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Afaik the ROM doesn't limit the bands. Imagine buying an unlocked device and travelling abroad. It wouldn't make sense to limit the functionality with software.
However, the hardware as limiting factor is a cost and compatibility choice. Hence, changing the ROM will not make your device compatible to more LTE bands.
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Really? I thought there was a software method to enable bands from other regions. Maybe I have my facts wrong though
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Really? I thought there was a software method to enable bands from other regions. Maybe I have my facts wrong though
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I've seen it happen on other phones haven't seen nothing for hotdogb without yet
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I've seen it happen on other phones haven't seen nothing for hotdogb without yet
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@sunnyd71
What someone needs to do is flash an NA (North American) image (for a HD1905 HW variant) to an EU Oneplus 7T (HD1903 HW variant) and actually check whether band 71 works.
And I mean you need to do this with the MSM-tool. You may have to flash the modem partition too I am not entirely certain the MSM-tool does that.
But no-one seems to have done this as far as I know. For the techy users on here this should not be very hard.
sunnyd71 why not satisfy our curiosity
Jeroen1000 said:
@sunnyd71
What someone needs to do is flash an NA (North American) image (for a HD1905 HW variant) to an EU Oneplus 7T (HD1903 HW variant) and actually check whether band 71 works.
And I mean you need to do this with the MSM-tool. You may have to flash the modem partition too I am not entirely certain the MSM-tool does that.
But no-one seems to have done this as far as I know. For the techy users on here this should not be very hard.
sunnyd71 why not satisfy our curiosity
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It depends if the EU version came with the band in the first place
Firmware does Indeed control the band's. But it is very difficult to manipulate as an end-user.
Phone manufacturers have to go through testing certifications in countries to be allowed to enable certain band's for their product to function there. They keep it well hidden from users like us.
That being said, I don't believe this works with the 7T (or any OnePlus phone).
Most likely chip specific. If the modem chip maker included ALL the bands on one chip, what fun would that be.
By making chips with different bands, they can charge multiple prices, depending on the market, and, phone makers
can sell different phones to different markets instead of a one size fits all approach. $$$$
I have an Exynos S20U that is LTE (or 4G) and i would like to enable it to 5G. Samsung for some reason decided to keep the 5G module on all phones but disable it on some and i find that unacceptable on a phone I paid 1400$ for.
I would like to see if this is possible (and also to change the text on the boot screen).
All input is appreciated. Thanks.
sorry all s20 Ultra's should be 5G enabled?. Please ensure your phone is the correct one for your country/region and running the correct CSC code for yr network. make sure your network supports 5G and your tarriff is active with 5G etc
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I have an Exynos S20U that is LTE (or 4G) and i would like to enable it to 5G. Samsung for some reason decided to keep the 5G module on all phones but disable it on some and i find that unacceptable on a phone I paid 1400$ for.
I would like to see if this is possible (and also to change the text on the boot screen).
All input is appreciated. Thanks.
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buy a 5g model
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buy a 5g model
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There isn't a 5G model in my country. Don't you think I would've done it if i could?
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sorry all s20 Ultra's should be 5G enabled?. Please ensure your phone is the correct one for your country/region and running the correct CSC code for yr network. make sure your network supports 5G and your tarriff is active with 5G etc
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Some countries in Europe get the LTE version which still has the 5G modem inside the device, hence the identical model designation but it's not enabled. Even on the boot screen it says ''LTE'' instead of 5G, and on the box it doesn't even tell you that it has 5G capability. An idiotic move on Samsung's part tbh.
That's why i was asking if i could somehow bypass that and enable it manually.
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Some countries in Europe get the LTE version which still has the 5G modem inside the device, hence the identical model designation but it's not enabled. Even on the boot screen it says ''LTE'' instead of 5G, and on the box it doesn't even tell you that it has 5G capability. An idiotic move on Samsung's part tbh.
That's why i was asking if i could somehow bypass that and enable it manually.
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The only way to know that for sure is to tear the device apart and check if the 5G antennas are present, there is supposedly no other way to know.
For the bypass part, you need someone to actually understand how that modem works, create a custom firmware for that modem (which I guess is different for Exynos and Snapdragon models) and then enable 5G.
All of this will require significant reverse-engineering effort to work at all. You won't see a 5G enabler soon. Also, it will 99.9% require unlocked bootloader AND root, so say goodbye to knox.
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The only way to know that for sure is to tear the device apart and check if the 5G antennas are present, there is supposedly no other way to know.
For the bypass part, you need someone to actually understand how that modem works, create a custom firmware for that modem (which I guess is different for Exynos and Snapdragon models) and then enable 5G.
All of this will require significant reverse-engineering effort to work at all. You won't see a 5G enabler soon. Also, it will 99.9% require unlocked bootloader AND root, so say goodbye to knox.
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I've actually seen a teardown of the Ultra i'm using, and it has the exact same 5G modem as the advertised Exynos 5G G988B Ultra.
Thanks for the input.
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The only way to know that for sure is to tear the device apart and check if the 5G antennas are present, there is supposedly no other way to know.
For the bypass part, you need someone to actually understand how that modem works, create a custom firmware for that modem (which I guess is different for Exynos and Snapdragon models) and then enable 5G.
All of this will require significant reverse-engineering effort to work at all. You won't see a 5G enabler soon. Also, it will 99.9% require unlocked bootloader AND root, so say goodbye to knox.
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Forgot to add the source. https://www.techinsights.com/blog/samsung-galaxy-s20-teardown-analysis
Edit: Do you think that perhaps changing the CSC might do the trick?
Wow didnt realise there was an lte/4g only model of the s20 ultra. It doesn't make any sense is it much cheaper than the 5g version? What market is it sold in?
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Wow didnt realise there was an lte/4g only model of the s20 ultra. It doesn't make any sense is it much cheaper than the 5g version? What market is it sold in?
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As far as i know, Indonesia and some parts of SEA, and parts of Europe (Central and Eastern). Could be more widespread but in essence it's an exactly the same phone, same model number, identical internals as the 5G version, just with the 5G modem disabled for some reason. It doesn't cost a penny less.
try *#2263# and see if u can enable the 5g bands
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try *#2263# and see if u can enable the 5g bands
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It doesn't let me
https://imgur.com/a/izcQ5sS
it is possible Samsung locked the 5G in S20 Ultra sold in Indonesia because Indonesia is still far away from the implementation of 5G.
Quoted from The Jakarta Post, "We'll be able to implement 5G services no later than 2022," said Association of Indonesian Cellular Operators (ATSI) chairman Ririek Adriansyah.
I guess Samsung is trying to save your phone battery from trying to search for 5G bands when it doesnt exist in Indonesia.
Try installing this app from google play store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ray.samsungbandselection
If your phone has the antenna, it should show up here.
UNLESS...... samsung added the antenna but didnt load the antenna drivers into the firmware.. but that would be a stupid thing to do.
vash_h said:
it is possible Samsung locked the 5G in S20 Ultra sold in Indonesia because Indonesia is still far away from the implementation of 5G.
Quoted from The Jakarta Post, "We'll be able to implement 5G services no later than 2022," said Association of Indonesian Cellular Operators (ATSI) chairman Ririek Adriansyah.
I guess Samsung is trying to save your phone battery from trying to search for 5G bands when it doesnt exist in Indonesia.
Try installing this app from google play store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ray.samsungbandselection
If your phone has the antenna, it should show up here.
UNLESS...... samsung added the antenna but didnt load the antenna drivers into the firmware.. but that would be a stupid thing to do.
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That's a good point but it seems strange as i live in Europe, in a country which promises 5G coverage by the end of the year (not country wide, but in major cities). Do you think Samsung could eventually release a patch to enable it?
Also yes, Samsung indeed added the antenna but there's 0 drivers.
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That's a good point but it seems strange as i live in Europe, in a country which promises 5G coverage by the end of the year (not country wide, but in major cities). Do you think Samsung could eventually release a patch to enable it?
Also yes, Samsung indeed added the antenna but there's 0 drivers.
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A CSC based switch is definitely possible, if you switch to a CSC from a country where the 5G model is officially sold, you might be able to use it, but no way of knowing for sure without visiting that country, switching the CSC and inserting a 5G-ready SIM card.
Has anybody tried and tested this?
What if you install a S20 5G firmware instead of the default one?
Please tell anyone how to enable 5g in S20 ultra Indian version.
S20 Fan Edition 4G Snapdragon variant's (SM-G780G) firmware (G780GXXU1AUD1/G780GOJM1AUD1/G780GXXU1AUCF) is published now in Turkey. You can check from here.
ErtugrulRK said:
S20 Fan Edition 4G Snapdragon variant's (SM-G780G) firmware (G780GXXU1AUD1/G780GOJM1AUD1/G780GXXU1AUCF) is published now in Turkey. You can check from here.
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Thanks for sharing!
It's on sale on Brazil with the reference SM-G780GZBRZTO here.
Have not twrp and custom rom for this model yet?
there's nothing for that specific model yet, it's only been on-sale a couple of days
It's also on sale in France, here.
However, i face big issues when i use the front camera in Snapchat, it's so zoomed in, even in comparison of the "full" mode in apn (i know that Snapchat uses the full mode and not the 3/4, which makes the selfie more zoomed, but here it's apparently not just that).
Do you guys have experienced the same problem, or is it just me ?
Can I make a unnoficial TWRP for this model? I want this to make root for this model.
Is 5G blocked at software level? Is unlocking 5G possible? Which qualcomm modem integrated to this phone?
emirefek said:
Is 5G blocked at software level? Is unlocking 5G possible? Which qualcomm modem integrated to this phone?
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I'd like to know
emirefek said:
Is 5G blocked at software level? Is unlocking 5G possible? Which qualcomm modem integrated to this phone?
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Snapdragon 865 has no integrated 5G modem. 5G models one externally to the SoC. SO probably there's no hardware for it in this phone.
Twski said:
Snapdragon 865 has no integrated 5G modem. 5G models one externally to the SoC. SO probably there's no hardware for it in this phone.
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And probably no 5G antenna too.
Did anyone receive the update to android 13, one UI 5.0, for the 4G Snapdragon?
alec_trikki said:
Did anyone receive the update to android 13, one UI 5.0, for the 4G Snapdragon?
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Yes about a month or two ago