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Hi all,
I have a touch pro 2, have upgraded from a touch pro, and its an all round better phone than its older brother.
However, the Camera on my old TP is so much better than mine on my TP2. On both the stock Rom, and my Energy rom the picture is total rubbish at all resolutions that its taken from. all the images seem very grainy and distorted compared to my TP.
I have tried cleaning the lens, and that hasnt seemed to make any difference either.
Has anyone else found this?
I completely agree with you on this. I remembered I was watching a video review on this device and they noted that the severity of the camera graininess is carrier specific due to the different battery covers. The other day I took a Pic with the battery cover off just to see if their was a difference and the pic was definitely a little bit sharper.
The clear window on battery cover can severely degrade image quality if scratched or greasy. The TP2 camera takes very nice pictures set at highest resolution and with good/bright light. Not so good in dim/poor light situations.
I've seen the same thing. Detail is all mushy. It reminds me a bit of some noise reduction software set too high. Since the tiny sensor in this phone would be prone to noise (small sensors have small pixels, so their light gathering capability is boosted by amplification, adding noise), so the Tilt2/Touchpro2 may have excessive noise reduction running.
Just a thought.
Images taken w/TP2
I am surprised to hear these comments! I have had a couple people mention how good images look that I have taken (using default settings). I have the T-Mobile version TP2 and am using b16b's AthineOS 21914 (superb) and am OC'd @729mhz. I have attached a couple photos taken recently that show what my device produces with it's camera. I am not a photographer by any means, and the image quality isn't amazing compared to a high-end digital camera, however, for my everyday usage which is somewhat limited to impulsive shooting of animals or car-wrecks & bum-fights, it seems to take fairly decent pictures. I do want to also mention that I take great pains to keep my device clean and use microfibre cleansing material frequently. Also, most of my use is outdoors, I have noticed that indoor usage doesn't give great results unless there is PLENTY of light available. Lack of a flash really disappoints me, however, overall I am very satisfied with my TP2!
Does anyone have feedback comparing the phone to flagship devices such as the s7, g5,etc
I think if the update that's being promised fixes all the things they say they'll fix, you'll get more accurate comparisons.
As it stands, compared to my Nexus 6P: the speakers are terrible, it gets very hot while just watching you tube, and the camera is very laggy.
Things the Robin does better (or same) than the 6P: camera quality is very close, the screen is much brighter outdoors, the battery lasts slightly longer, the design is much more interesting, and I actually notice fewer lags and stutters on the Robin, even with the 808 chip vs the 6P's 810. The audio jack is also slightly louder.
I also actually prefer the "press power then scan your fingerprint" to the 6P's "always reading your finger" since sometimes I just want to peek at my phone and I inadvertently unlock it, losing my notification quick glance on the lock screen.
If the update keeps all its promises, I'll be selling my 6P.
Edit:
The 6.0.1 patch was released and it fixed many of the issues I had with the Robin. Front facing speakers sound great now (albeit a bit too loud from mute to 1%).
The camera is much improved.There's still a slight delay when taking pics but it's what I would consider acceptable for an 808 chipset. You still can't rapid-tap to take a sequence of photos but you can hold down the capture button to do essentially the same thing. However, with the latest round of updates, it refocuses and corrects exposure much much faster than the 6P, and grabs the correct focus subject more often than the 6P. HDR mode is still very slow, but personally I don't see a huge improvement between HDR and non-HDR anymore...
Can't speak to battery life yet but I do notice it doesn't get so hot as easily. Watching youtube doesn't cause the cpu to get crazy hot anymore, at least not within the first few minutes. It does still get quite warm when using the camera.
Overall the system feels more fluid. Personally I now prefer the Robin to my 6P by far.
Hi guys, so i just updated my phone from previous s7 edge tp the lg v30+ unlocked us998 version , just want to share my usage and to help people decide with this phone
so for my background , i am a tech geek phone lover. I always buy used phone since 2010 and always go after cheap high performance phone. My previous phone was mostly samsung , s7 edge, note 4. The last LG phone i was used was lg optimus 2x on 2012, and that's thx to tegra2 hype back then.
Okay, so why i upgrading to my phone because, i want a large new display to play games, ragnarok mobile , anyone? haha and so i listing mi 8 and note 8 to my next target phone back then few months ago. And i was nearly buy the note 8 back then. But the 18,5:9 ratio is turning me off. it was to tall slim skinny screen and thx to the edge it look not to good for my taste. The first time i see a lg v30 is when 3-4 months ago, my friend was using it. The screen is great big and 18:9 ratio looks good and not turning me off, but after reading it have a bad camera 1um pixel, i just auto not to buy this phone back then. Reading news article was my hobby , and that time i read about gcam port than magically make the lg v30 usable, woalah. it actually not look to good when i see the image example on the gcam port review. And the other thing, this thing was cheap for a used one, costly approximately 250 us dollar in my country vs note 8 used which is two times the price. And so my mind was swinging whetever to buy this phone or not. Shortly i brought this phone and sell my s7 edge , LoL
So for my lg v30+ spec is unlocked us998 with oreo. I think i got lucky because the phone is on mint condition with power button like new, giving a strong tactile feedback. i think this was used few weeks than returned, and just got in my hand few months after
okay , lets go enter the review :
Display
So my impression with the display it have a large good propotional 18:9 screen with large SRGB and color space, also with the HDR video support. It easily on par with s8+/note 8 screen and supercede my s7 edge display. On sunny day, the screen have roughly same brightness with my s7 edge display, with s7 edge , slightly have better color and luminance, Other than that the lg v30 display on sunlight is good. For blue shift issue, it's only show up on all white image, so you won't notice it for 99% most of the time except all white image/ui display. it does appear when you see it on all white display and noticeable, but on most daily ui app and games , there's no any noticeable things on my experience. Other than that there's no issue with the screen as ext reviewer said, luminance and brightness is balance and no area is brighter than the other on the screen, like some ext website review said.
On temperature said, the screen does look little bluish, i change the temperature with slider all goes to warmer and turn the blue color to the most left, voila it became very wamer now. I also change the screen to fhd+ to save battery life and performance, and the screen look fantastic, no pixelation can be seen,
Camera
Camera , Camera, the stock camera app for front camera is obviously the worst ever stock camera app i ever use, period. the screen color is very strange, like they have bug on pre prod and no fix. Seriously LG. Most reviewer will judge and said the front camera is terrible, i said yes because of the software, outside software wise, its very good!. Now the back camera using stock app with Oreo is quite good, but it's still hit and miss. Sometimes the image look blur, sometimes it have a great detail on all side of the image. For AI cam, it only bring better colour and exposure from my exp so that maybe a little plus. Changing to googlecamera port is absolutely amazing experience, all low light and good light photo is superb with excellent detail. You can zoom peep to 200% and get nice detail with text clear to readable with almost all lighting condition. Front camera also take a blow with google camera port, there's HDR and a great detail to it, some reviewer said it fix the front camera, i said it makes the front camera look very great with superior HDR color and detail. For video , i wont said much , but as you can read on most reviewer said it have great features that beat other phone. The only annoyance to me is the shaky effect when you walk, not too bad , look s natural but still look strange. The Google camera does fix this a little bit using 1080p and EIS.
Now comparing to s7 edge, the only advantage with my old phone is faster auto focus and high bright photo, other than that the lg v30 is absolutely an upgrade to meeee, the detail photo using gcam on lg v30 beat's quality of s7 edge, any text or image when zoom till 200% is clearer and better due to resolution advante with googlecamera app handling all the processing. For brightness you can play with setting on gcam port + edit brightness to make dark image look brighter as the s7 edge.. Now the s7 edge faster focus is a hit and miss for my exp, sometimes look like you taken a picture on stable but the image appear blurry, this is also the case with gcam, sometimes i need to hold a stable few second to get a good shot that was not blur.
Comparing to my friend s9 plus phone with newest software that contain note 9 camera algorithm, is absolutely great also. the 12 mpx limited res image on s9+ kicked by all the detail that the gcam port given, Sure the s9 plus color and brightness is better than s7 edge, but the gcam photo looks very natural and detailed. Even with telephoto camera lens on s9 plus, the zoomed 200% main camera with gcam still give a good fight,albeit loses on clarity and detail. I even said that my 1/3 prices phone is killing the s9 plus device LoL and he surely tempted
All the above review is using gcam app, with stock lg is a hit and miss. , you need several hit to get a nice pict. Overall with gcam the camera is greatttt
Now front camera wise, the s7 edge have lower aperture and better um pixel size, comparing apple to apple stock camera is absolutely wins to s7 edge, but use the gcam port and you get absolutely amazing image. The s7 edge with beautify off is still applying beautify picture, image doesn't look sharp with smoothing effect going on , this is same behaviour with the lg front camera stock app, only worseeeeee. Using the gcam, the quality is killing the s7 edge front camera, even with superior spec, the s7 edge smoothing the skin makes the image look less sharper vs gcam on lg v30 front camera giving a lot of detail. When you take a image on day light with a lot of strong light on the backgroud the HDR will help you show all detail your backside without any lens flare hiding it, while s7 edge front camera will blow up, if there's too many light and can't see anything. Now comparing the lg v30 front cam with gcam vs note 8/s9 plus camera i think their can have a a par quality, surely the note 8/s9 camera have better resolution,spec and auto focus, but the lg v30 have a very wide angle lens camera, so you can selfie or vlog and show things you want to share on your side with the camera still cover it up for you. So i can say wide angle vs narrow angle, is your choice.
p.s : i didn't post any picture due to limited quota internet bandwith
Battery
The battery life is so amazing, it can easily get 6 hours SOT just like others youtube review said. since 2010 i always buy a used phone and the battery life already drop the first time i use it. The lg V30 is the best smartphone that i buy with very good battery life, the s7 edge only hit around 3-4 hour sot with all efficient setting turn on. Also fast charging temperature is almost low , only 2/3 c higher than standard charging, thx to qnovo adaptive charging tech, usb c technology that make the heat transfer lower than micro usb cable and lg charge tech? it only warm while fast charge. My s7 edge usually become hot while fast charging, easily hit 45c on battery temp, while the v30 hit 39.7 for the highest battery temp.
Loud speaker
The volume quality is very good, just like gsmarena said, loud enough on loud env and clear balance sound, More louder than my s7 edge. While s7 edge speaker gives bass sound effect, the lg v30 speaker is very balanced and clearer, is this due to lg v30 speaker tuned by B&O ? this is still a question with no answer LoL. But i notice that the volume different on 80 vs 90-100% is very huge, when you move to 90 or 100% you get very loud sound, while move to 80% will reduce the vol a lot, i think this is a tweaking done by LG
Audio Quality
One of samsung strengh with music is there is adapt headset app to optimize your earphone, Every people use different headset/iem from the cheapest and the expensive one, using samsung adapt headset program the music quality on s7 edge is great while feel balance. The hifi quad dac on lg v30 does enhance the audio big, it can be felt and the sound become very different everytime i change the eq on the hifi dac mode. For this one as i'm not an audiophile, i give the advantage to lg v30, the only bad thing i need to play with the eq to find the best setting, while samsung one just optimize and play. FYI i'm using c100 jbl , a cheap 6 us dollar iem.
Signal and reception
The phone does have same quality signal reception with s7 edge, but the stepping frequency jump is better. Currently i m using mobile operator with low signal quality on my country, but have cheapest packet for mobile data etc, the signal on lg v30 jump faster per step than s7 edge, this is good to optimize signal and prevent bad signal searching to save battery.
Have been hearing mostly bad things about this device since it's release but just watched this review from Flossy Carter who says this is the best mid range phone out there.
I've been looking for a device that has all this phone has,
Interested to know your opinions,
Is this similar to your experiences ?
Link to review:
manus31 said:
Have been hearing mostly bad things about this device since it's release but just watched this review from Flossy Carter who says this is the best mid range phone out there.
I've been looking for a device that has all this phone has,
Interested to know your opinions,
Is this similar to your experiences ?
Link to review:
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It is the best midrange phone. Here are my pros and cons:
PROS:
1) Absolutely gorgeous 6.7" AMOLED screen. So sharp, vivid and bright with superb inky blacks. Bezels are so slim giving the phone a sleek immersive design.
2) Performance is superb. SD675 with One UI is fantastic. Everything is so smooth and lag free and it runs every game with high graphics and zero lag.
3) Battery life is excellent. I'm getting 10 hours screen on time. The 25w fast charger is amazing, it takes only 1 hour 15 minutes to get a full charge.
4) Audio quality through headphones is superb, clean and loud, with dolby atmos supported. In ear headphones which come supplied in the box are very good.
5) Complete package: NFC, Samsung Pay, Always On Display, Navigation Gestures, Dark mode etc.
CONS:
1) Camera low light performance is poor. But this can be fixed with Gcam's Night Mode. Video quality is average and lacks stablization making footage almost unusable. (Can be improved with software update)
2) On screen fingerprint scanner is slow and inaccurate (can be improved with software update)
3) Face Unlock is fast and accurate but it works even with closed eyes (can be fixed with software update)
3) Front panel has Gorilla Glass 3 protection only. At this price point you would expect atleast Gorilla Glass 5. Back panel and frame are plastic but they feel good in the hand nevertheless.
4) No stereo speakers. Speakers audio output is OK, could have been better.
5) 20:1 aspect ratio is a stupid decision from Samsung. Most videos have big black bars on both sides. You need to zoom in to make them full screen which sucks big time.
In general use, as a navigation aid, browsing, music, watching video and making the odd call it is a very good phone. Having used it a couple of weeks I don't regret buying it. Battery has been very good which is one of the main reasons I got it. I haven't had to test the fast charging because it has easily lasted the day, every day.
I don't find the fingerprint that problematic and use it as the only method to unlock the phone except when a password is a required on reboot. I can understand why some are frustrated with it but with a bit of work and practice it works well for me in a second or under 95% of the time and works second or third time on other occasions. It never causes me more than a few seconds pause. A firmware update is apparently on the way to improve it further.
I only use the camera for the odd snap when out and about and it seems fine but I didn't buy it as a video cam or for low light photos and have never used it as such.
Sufyan3D said:
It is the best midrange phone. Here are my pros and cons:
PROS:
1) Absolutely gorgeous 6.7" AMOLED screen. So sharp, vivid and bright with superb inky blacks. Bezels are so slim giving the phone a sleek immersive design.
2) Performance is superb. SD675 with One UI is fantastic. Everything is so smooth and lag free and it runs every game with high graphics and zero lag.
3) Battery life is excellent. I'm getting 10 hours screen on time. The 25w fast charger is amazing, it takes only 1 hour 15 minutes to get a full charge.
4) Audio quality through headphones is superb, clean and loud, with dolby atmos supported. In ear headphones which come supplied in the box are very good.
5) Complete package: NFC, Samsung Pay, Always On Display, Navigation Gestures, Dark mode etc.
CONS:
1) Camera low light performance is poor. But this can be fixed with Gcam's Night Mode. Video quality is average and lacks stablization making footage almost unusable. (Can be improved with software update)
2) On screen fingerprint scanner is slow and inaccurate (can be improved with software update)
3) Face Unlock is fast and accurate but it works even with closed eyes (can be fixed with software update)
3) Front panel has Gorilla Glass 3 protection only. At this price point you would expect atleast Gorilla Glass 5. Back panel and frame are plastic but they feel good in the hand nevertheless.
4) No stereo speakers. Speakers audio output is OK, could have been better.
5) 20:1 aspect ratio is a stupid decision from Samsung. Most videos have big black bars on both sides. You need to zoom in to make them full screen which sucks big time.
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Thanks for the reply,good list there and pretty much what Id expect.i was quite impressed watching the flossy Carter review, especially with the camera,seems to be some EIS stabilisation for certain video modes. The fingerprint seems to be an annoyance,. Not do much a problem with face unlock.Gorilla glass 3 is bot of a bummer also
I hear there is an A70s coming in the second part of the year,complete with the world's first 64mp camera on a phone,
Might be worth waiting for
manus31 said:
Thanks for the reply,good list there and pretty much what Id expect.i was quite impressed watching the flossy Carter review, especially with the camera,seems to be some EIS stabilisation for certain video modes. The fingerprint seems to be an annoyance,. Not do much a problem with face unlock.Gorilla glass 3 is bot of a bummer also
I hear there is an A70s coming in the second part of the year,complete with the world's first 64mp camera on a phone,
Might be worth waiting for
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I read it in the news today, hope there will be other improvements other than the 64mp camera.
The upcoming Xiaomi K20 looks very promising, with smaller screen and battery though. I'm waiting for the Xiaomi Mi Max 4, a real multimedia monster. If they stick to LCD it's a no buy for me.
That review is great, "from zero to ten this phone is a major go" lmao
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That review is great, "from zero to ten this phone is a major go" lmao
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He does good reviews, I think the amount of majors before the go is relevant to how good the phone is.i think he gave this one 3 majors,not sure.would need to watch it again
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He does good reviews, I think the amount of majors before the go is relevant to how good the phone is.i think he gave this one 3 majors,not sure.would need to watch it again
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Shout out to white shoes lol
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Seriously he should do a review on white shoes
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Seriously he should do a review on white shoes
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White shoes is a major, major go
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Have to laugh every very time he picks up a phone and says feels good in the hands,
"Ladies you know the procedures"
If a70 is a good phone by any reviewer then they have not considered some of the features which should be present at this price point.
If this is a good phone, then any phone in this price should stand good.
Major cons are
Speakers sound is very low. Have to be 80% or more. it is not loud at all.
6.7 Inch screen is good for nothing.
Type c is only for charging and no additional features.
Camera quality, it is better if we don't talk much on it.
Slow motion and super slow motion are useless.
They are just for marketing and not for use.
6.7 inch screen is great for games as you still have plenty of screen left in middle while your thumbs cover the edges, it's also great for movies it's almost the exact ratio for them
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Mi A3, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi A3 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I was skeptical and very dismissive of it due to the 720p spec of the display. Yet having it changed my opinion. I placed it next to a 2k LCD and found little difference at a typical daily use distance. I can only see pixelation when viewing very carefully, or using lens.
With that concern out of the way, the 720p display was an excellent choice when it comes to saving battery life. In fact it probably has the longest battery run time of the current crop of xiaomi phones, in large part due to the 720p OLED. With the minute visible difference (I don't understand how people can claim it to be obvious inferior, when to me it clearly isn't), I'm actually willing to take the trade off for better battery life. It is far more vibrant than LCD to boot. Most people I showed it alongside with 1080p LCD on the redmi note7 picked the A3 display, due to color vibrancy.
The camera is excellent. I did side by side comparison with the 64mp gm1 on the redmi note 7. I have to say GM1 did a great job catching up to Sony, but the IMX586 still have the clarity edge at low lights with less noise and clearer RAW images (yup I compared using RAW to take post processing out of the way). However, I can't really say it's a clear winner, as IMX results seem to "smudge" a bit. I'm wondering if by using 48mp marketing gimmick that requires pixel binding was actually a step backwards compared to just straight large-cell 12mp sensor (yet lower MP count sells fewer phones evidently). Nevertheless, no complaints with the cameras. Wide angle and front sensor are both excellent as well. A great phone for selfie lovers, and better than most xiaomi phones except maybe mi9.
Loudspeaker is loud but only above around 800-900hz. So even mids are kinda subdued, and shrieking sounds are pretty loud. Mine buzzes at mid range frequencies which is really annoying. Some built in notifications would result in a buzz at the loudest and 2nd loudest volumes. It's not terribly loud and so the loudest volume is easily required when outdoors or in an urban setting. I think mine's probably defective, as it developed after a few days (past the refund period. :-/) It's not exactly malfunctioning, but annoying nevertheless.
I still love the phone, because of the smaller form factor for true one handed handling. It feels thin and light, yet packs a punch in terms of display colors, battery life, and camera quality. If it can be rooted with AOSP rom, or have native gcam support (I use RMN7's port and it works sans wide angle), it'd be even nicer.
It definitely feels like a better build, with better looks and feel over A2. I think it's a great little package, and if you can get it at a good price, it really is bringing the flagship camera and battery life with clean android to the masses. Something Pixel 3a is trying to do but A3 truly does it better in many ways, not the least its price.
Phone is pretty nice, but it needs some custom rom support. I feel stock is not so optimised as it could be, sometimes it slows down opening apps etc.
Also, max screen brigtness is too low. I didn't pay attention to this while buying it, but anything below 400+ nits is too dim on sunlight.
After using both, Miui and Stock Android, i feel stock is getting overrated. Miui is as fast and packed with features and customization, and Miui's dark mode is way better than google's implemetation.
I personally think Cc9/Mi9 Lite is a better buy although it's cost is a little higher.
Absolutely love this phone, resolution doesn't bother as much as you think it would. My only complain with this phone is vibration motor, but apart from that, it's a fantastic phone (probably the best) in this price range. Biggest loving factors for me are
*Super fast storage (UFS 2.1)
*sAmoled screen
*Build quality and size
*Stock Android
Battery life is super. That's very important for many people
I REALLY recommend that phone, it's amazing for the price... the display is not disappointing as a lot of people say (and anyway, who the F really needs a 1080p display??? what for??? it's not as if the phone was the size of a TV!!!). It's rootable, fast, has a great camera, but doesn't have NFC... In my case, I didn't want it anyway (had it on previous phone, and only used it to show off when reading CC details).
After about two weeks of usage, I really like the phone. Really suits my disabled hands. I wish the screen were a little wider than tall because the extra height doesn't help me so much but extra width would make a lot of things bigger and easier.
I got this for the OLED screen and was not disappointed. Would not trade for a better spec'ed LCD screen. I am all in on OLED. Now do I wish it were 1080 so text would be crisper? Sure. That or a non pentile screen. But for this price, it's not happening at this point in time.
Speed and responsiveness is quite good. It does slow down and lags at time but overall I'm happy with it.
Camera is fine. I don't take pictures much so as long as the pictures I do take aren't embarrassingly bad I'm happy. And I think it's way better than not bad.
Where it falls down is in the audio department. I'm coming from a hand me down iPhone 5 and by comparison the speaker is tinny and kind of painful to listen to. The 3.5mm output isn't great either. I notice a real drop in quality with my grado sr60. I've done the af.resampler.quality tweak too. I'm using an equalizer to make it sound better, but wish they hadn't cut this corner.
Overall, if there's a better OLED phone at this price I don't know about it. I would be willing to pay more to get 1080p and better audio, but not like $150 more after tax like the Mi 9T or Samsung S50. I wish Xiaomi had a phone in the middle. I don't need pop up selfie camera or fancy back. I would be happy with a plastic body and have the money go inside the phone. Lighter to boot.
I love u
still loving it. Audio recorder should be available in the next update.
I love my A3 too. Battery life is insane, sadly i find the Finger Unlock sensor very very slow. It takes so long to unlock that i always using a Pin number instead to be faster. :crying:
I love it. Just got mine a week ago and I really like it. Certainly reminds me of Nexus in many ways. A lot better than MIUI iny opinion. Used Redmi 4X before.
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