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Hello Everyone. I have purchased a LG G3 D851 (TMobile) unlocked from Dubai and intend to use it at India. I am worried about
1. Are the wireless and NFC chips different from the D855. D855 has 2 connectors while D851 has 4. Can I use D855 Back Panel on the D851 and vice versa.
2. Since it is unlocked, will the updates come from LG or should I wait for T-Mobile to send the updates.
As it is a quadband phone, there should not be any carrier issues.
And finally, why does LG G3 not include wireless charging off the box in USA like they do all over the world?
Your inputs will be much appreciated and will also help fellow xda folks as there is not much of talk about the differences between D851 and D855.
Cheers,
Karthik
Just found out that the D851 does not have any t-mobile markings on the mobile back cover or box. Infact even while switching on there is no t-mobile logo. But the model is LG D851. Is it even possible? Because D851 is the code for t-mobile. Please help clear these doubts.
karthik_freaky said:
Hello Everyone. I have purchased a LG G3 D851 (TMobile) unlocked from Dubai and intend to use it at India. I am worried about
1. Are the wireless and NFC chips different from the D855. D855 has 2 connectors while D851 has 4. Can I use D855 Back Panel on the D851 and vice versa.
2. Since it is unlocked, will the updates come from LG or should I wait for T-Mobile to send the updates.
As it is a quadband phone, there should not be any carrier issues.
And finally, why does LG G3 not include wireless charging off the box in USA like they do all over the world?
Your inputs will be much appreciated and will also help fellow xda folks as there is not much of talk about the differences between D851 and D855.
Cheers,
Karthik
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karthik_freaky said:
Just found out that the D851 does not have any t-mobile markings on the mobile back cover or box. Infact even while switching on there is no t-mobile logo. But the model is LG D851. Is it even possible? Because D851 is the code for t-mobile. Please help clear these doubts.
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Im guessing you didnt buy it new with a sealed box.
karthik_freaky said:
Just found out that the D851 does not have any t-mobile markings on the mobile back cover or box. Infact even while switching on there is no t-mobile logo. But the model is LG D851. Is it even possible? Because D851 is the code for t-mobile. Please help clear these doubts.
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I think that this is possible as D851 is also sold for Canadian carriers...
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Im guessing you didnt buy it new with a sealed box.
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It came in a sealed box. The model number is mentioned as D851 while there is no mention of T-Mobile anywhere on the box or on the mobile.
HinotoriBR said:
I think that this is possible as D851 is also sold for Canadian carriers...
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LG G3 sold in Canada is D852. Please correct me if I am wrong.
If that is the case, LG has started selling generic D851s in America. I even found an user manual for Generic D851 along with the Tmo D851 on their website.
The European model D855 comes with a Qi Compatible back cover. The Indian model D855 comes with a Qi back cover, 1 Year Display Replacement voucher, and Discount voucher worth $160 on G Watch. I wonder why the American version is so basic.
Carriers abroad
I would assume, and I only do this out of assumption, that T-Mobile USA isn't the only one that uses the D851 and the bands that T-Mo uses here is the US is probably used by other carriers elsewhere in the world. If that is the case, then I would think that LG would have saved their money and gave the D851 to carriers abroad that used the same spectrum, minus logos and boot animations.
karthik_freaky said:
It came in a sealed box. The model number is mentioned as D851 while there is no mention of T-Mobile anywhere on the box or on the mobile.
LG G3 sold in Canada is D852. Please correct me if I am wrong.
If that is the case, LG has started selling generic D851s in America. I even found an user manual for Generic D851 along with the Tmo D851 on their website.
The European model D855 comes with a Qi Compatible back cover. The Indian model D855 comes with a Qi back cover, 1 Year Display Replacement voucher, and Discount voucher worth $160 on G Watch. I wonder why the American version is so basic.
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Wow they shafted us on the USA,that's great hookups
Sent from my LG-D851 using XDA Premium HD app
Thanks for the replies. On first set up of the mobile, I was shocked to find SperSU by Chainfire installed but its still not rooted. The mobile is brand new and has D85110C installed. I cannot find the Update Center (Settings -> About Phone). Please someone tell me what I have got myself into? Thanks.
Your "brand new phone" will not ship with SuperSU. If you don't have the playstore on ur phone, its another sign that phone is not new. LGs update center is also preinstalled.
se1zure31 said:
Your "brand new phone" will not ship with SuperSU. If you don't have the playstore on ur phone, its another sign that phone is not new. LGs update center is also preinstalled.
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LG PC Suite is working now. Playstore is there. Only thing weird was the SuperSU. Do people who unlock contract phones leave SuperSU on the mobile. And I found out that LG G3 Tmo and AT&T models do not have the Update Center visible. Wonder what is wrong with all these American carriers? Stupid, Absolutely Stupid.
Unlocked phone has nothing to do with SuperSU. SuperSU is strictly used for root. Again, T-Mobile, LG, or purchasing an unlocked phone will NOT have SuperSU.
karthik_freaky said:
LG PC Suite is working now. Playstore is there. Only thing weird was the SuperSU. Do people who unlock contract phones leave SuperSU on the mobile. And I found out that LG G3 Tmo and AT&T models do not have the Update Center visible. Wonder what is wrong with all these American carriers? Stupid, Absolutely Stupid.
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The update center is most definitely visible in the settings menu for the US variants of the G3.
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Unlocked phone has nothing to do with SuperSU. SuperSU is strictly used for root. Again, T-Mobile, LG, or purchasing an unlocked phone will NOT have SuperSU.
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Just found out my "Brand New LG G3" is actually rooted. Maybe the seller unlocked it and rooted it up.
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The update center is most definitely visible in the settings menu for the US variants of the G3.
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Can any AT&T and TMo users confirm whether they have the update software option on their mobile. I have seen a few users complain that it is not available in US Version. Please give your feedback. Thanks.
karthik_freaky said:
Just found out my "Brand New LG G3" is actually rooted. Maybe the seller unlocked it and rooted it up.
Can any AT&T and TMo users confirm whether they have the update software option on their mobile. I have seen a few users complain that it is not available in US Version. Please give your feedback. Thanks.
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I can confirm my US model on T-Mobile has the LG update center. It is in the apps center and is labeled "Update Center."
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Unlocked phone has nothing to do with SuperSU. SuperSU is strictly used for root. Again, T-Mobile, LG, or purchasing an unlocked phone will NOT have SuperSU.
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The update center is most definitely visible in the settings menu for the US variants of the G3.
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I can confirm my US model on T-Mobile has the LG update center. It is in the apps center and is labeled "Update Center."
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Oh that is great. Is it possible to download the update center as a stand alone app?
Did anyone stop to think that maybe when he signed into google he chose to restore his apps and it downloaded chainfire su from the playstore automagically? Since his phone wasn't rooted it seems logical to me.
Then again my IQ is only three times that of Stephen Hawkings so what would I know. </sarcasm>
yutsoku said:
Did anyone stop to think that maybe when he signed into google he chose to restore his apps and it downloaded chainfire su from the playstore automagically? Since his phone wasn't rooted it seems logical to me.
Then again my IQ is only three times that of Stephen Hawkings so what would I know. </sarcasm>
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Nope might. I have never used SuperSU Chainfire before. Anyways after a chat with LG US officials and after going through the files in the mobile I have found out the below:
1. Rooted Mobile
2. TWRP Installed
3. It has been flashed with LG-D851_Generic.zip (1.02GB)
4. It is indeed LG G3 D851 ( Without any affiliations to T-mobile )
If anyone would like the Generic version I would be happy to upload the file. So may be in some international markets, they are selling Generic Version D851. But it still puzzles me why my seller would root and install TWRP in a generic version.
If you open the back cover do you see D851 printed in white ink on any parts?
jobella said:
If you open the back cover do you see D851 printed in white ink on any parts?
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Yes it does have D851 written on various parts. Photo attached :
I guess it really is a D851 - T Mobile.
Pretty sure this app was just installed by the LG update center today and that it wasn't there before.
I have the US T-Mobile variant of the LG G7 Thinq.
Thank you.
It's been there all along. It's was there only G4 on marshmallow as well. Not sure what it's there for but I can find no evidence that it does anything whatsoever, but have not attempted to disable it
What does Multitasking Framework stands for? I stopped it once and it never runs again. But what for is needed then?
schwarznavy said:
Pretty sure this app was just installed by the LG update center today and that it wasn't there before.
I have the US T-Mobile variant of the LG G7 Thinq.
Thank you.
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I think It's there to see when you try to use a service (like tethering or vmail to text) that is not covered by your plan, and to let you know you need to buy that service or upgrade your plan to get it.
See: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g4/help/hotspot-broken-rooting-t3165994
Hope this helps. I was wondering the same thing and my old G3 is asking me to update this app. I'm on T-Mo as well.
-Hedroom
I know this usually requires root. However, my wife's unlocked Sprint LG G8 does not have the Sprint boot and off screens. It is not rooted and it is from the same seller. So it's possible for sure.
Unless someone secretly has root, I don't see how this is possible. Yet it's a fact that it has been done.
Of interest to this thread.
I just bought an lg g8 thinq from the US. (I'm in Australia). Locked to sprint. It doesn't boot up with the sprint logo. Just the lg one.
I also haven't been able to unlock it. I didn't realise there was such an issue getting the sprint version unlocked.
If anyone has any legitimate hot tip it would be appreciated.
UPDATE: No, it won't. This was click-bait article posted by some website that has no clue what they are talking about. No V30 variants will receive LG stock Android 10.
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US998 V30/V30+/V30S will receive LG Android 10!
Found something funny, as this site lists 2018 V30S as getting Android 10, but not the 2017 V30 & V30+.
LG Android 10 update (UX 9.1): Device list, Release Date, and More
LG V30/V30+/V30S ThinQ Android 10 update
* Only the V30S is eligible for Android 10
* The update could arrive in Q2 or Q3 2020
* LG V30 and V30+ are not eligible
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However, ALL V30 variants are "Joan" phones. For US998 V30S, there's no difference in firmware with the US998 V30 and US998 V30+. A KDZ for V30S US998 is also SAME KDZ for US998 V30/V30+
All that announcement means if if your model doesn't ALSO have a V30S variant (only Korean carriers and US998 came with V30S), then you won't get LG stock Android 10. However, all US998 WILL get stock Android 10 -- either native US998 or those North American models Frankensteined to US998. This would include AS998, LS998, VS996, H931, H933, H932PR (Puerto Rico).
This would NOT include T-mobile H932, and all H930 variants (H930, H930D, H930DS, H930G). Those models are out of luck.
Might be eligible for it, but probably won't see it until 12 is out.
Android 10 has to be trebelized, right? It'd be awesome to have Verizon/(LG?) out of the update loop.
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Android 10 has to be trebelized, right? It'd be awesome to have Verizon/(LG?) out of the update loop.
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No. We will never get Treble.
ChazzMatt said:
This would NOT include T-mobile H932, and all H930 variants (H930, H930D, H930DS, H930G). Those models are out of luck.
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Couldn't a modified ROM be made as a flashable TWRP zip?
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If it ain't an actual press release or officially verifiable LG statement I'm not gonna put any faith in whatsoever, but it'll be interesting to see what does eventually happen. So figure what, 18-24 months from now it'll start leaking out?
br0adband said:
If it ain't an actual press release or officially verifiable LG statement I'm not gonna put any faith in whatsoever, but it'll be interesting to see what does eventually happen. So figure what, 18-24 months from now it'll start leaking out?
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They claim 2nd OR 3rd Quarter 2020.
We know how "2nd quarter" 2019 promise went with Pie... Today is start of 4th quarter...
Assume a year from now.
Just my guess, but if this actually happen then it's because of the V30S being released with Oreo (instead of Nougat like the "normal" V30). Which means it has only received one OS update so far, and since LG gives their flagship phones 2 OS updates normally....
Anyway this is good news. More reason for me to not replace my H933 any time soon.
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Just my guess, but if this actually happen then it's because of the V30S being released with Oreo (instead of Nougat like the "normal" V30). Which means it has only received one OS update so far, and since LG gives their flagship phones 2 OS updates normally....
Anyway this is good news. More reason for me to not replace my H933 any time soon.
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Well they tried to pretend the 2018 V30S was completely different phone, to compete with the new 2018 Galaxy S9/9+ at the time (which had newer Snapdragon 845 Samsung had exclusively for a while). It wasn't' a new phone. It was merely a "Joan" V30+ with more RAM. (It did have the then-new ThinQ software, but all V30 variants eventually got that on Oreo.)
Whereas the later 2018 V35 ("JudyP") was indeed a new phone with Snapdragon 845 -- but both releases left a sour taste in people's mouths.
V30S (Snapdragon 835 "Joan" series, same as V30/V30+) was pretending to be new phone, while V35 (Snapdragon 845 "JudyP") looked so much like V30S people were afraid of being fooled again -- and V35 didn't have enough internal memory. Except for a Brazil variant the V35 was only 64GB internal memory. Joan V30S had more than that!
But if LG still wants to pretend V30S is a different phone from the V30/V30+ for the purposes of updates, fine.
It would be nice if this would actually be the case... we will see, LGs official annoucements are usually always a bit... late xD
Even if its "just" for the US/korean variants... there are ways.
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It would be nice if this would actually be the case... we will see
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Indeed. And seeing as how:
There were never carrier-specific versions of the V35 in the US
The only differences between the carrier-sepcific KDZs and unlocked US KDZ are the radio and preinstalled bloatware
It should be a breeze to get Andoid 10 on all V30 variants. :angel:
br0adband said:
If it ain't an actual press release or officially verifiable LG statement I'm not gonna put any faith in whatsoever, but it'll be interesting to see what does eventually happen. So figure what, 18-24 months from now it'll start leaking out?
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True. Re-reading the original article I see they don't cite official sources. They SEEM to be only basing their prediction on the fact the LG V30S (which is just a Joan variant with 6GB RAM) was "released" in 2018, along with G7, V35, and V40. My apologies for not noticing that when I posted.
The V30S is still just a V30, which is why the V30S does NOT have Treble. The V30 launched with Nougat and Treble is not required. The V30S is just a 2017 V30 which was updated to Oreo FIRST, then all the other V30/V30+ were updated to Oreo.
LG can still give all the V30 variants Android 10, but they aren't going to give ONE V30 variant Android 10 and not the others.
It is hard to know if I should laugh or cry. The V30S is being brought up to rationalize Android 10 for the V30 series. It would be awesome if it happens, but I fear the phone will be worn out by then if it ever happens.
As a V30S owner, I am still waiting for an open carrier US998 Pie rom. The last one was Oreo 20H dated from February. It is pretty good, but there have been improvements that would be nice to have. The US Cellular US998 30B Pie rom is NOT a substitute. It lacks VoLTE and VoWIFI support, ouch.
cmrntnnr said:
It is hard to know if I should laugh or cry. The V30S is being brought up to rationalize Android 10 for the V30 series. It would be awesome if it happens, but I fear the phone will be worn out by then if it ever happens.
As a V30S owner, I am still waiting for an open carrier US998 Pie rom. The last one was Oreo 20H dated from February. It is pretty good, but there have been improvements that would be nice to have. The US Cellular US998 30B Pie rom is NOT a substitute. It lacks VoLTE and VoWIFI support, ouch.
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Sprint LS998 also doesn't have Pie yet...
Maybe Open Market US998 Pie will come after that is released.
I really hope that LG will do the same like Samsung will be doing with the S8.
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LG can still give all the V30 variants Android 10, but they aren't going to give ONE V30 variant Android 10 and not the others.
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Ohhh... never say that. I heard of a previous LG phone where only the Korean version got the update, and not the other models... They were stuck on an older Android version .-.
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Sprint LS998 also doesn't have Pie yet...
Maybe Open Market US998 Pie will come after that is released.
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Sprint seems to be slow in general... Not even sure if they released Pie for the V40 yet (only found a 18f for the LMV405UA3)
trouble. said:
I really hope that LG will do the same like Samsung will be doing with the S8.
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First Samsung Samsung has to actually do that. They probably won't.
I can't find any Samsung statement saying they are going to upgrade the S8 to Android 10. Some people are just making that up, based on alleged conversation with famously ignorant Samsung customer service rep.
Samsung Customer Service Reps don't even know the difference between carrier unlocked and bootloader unlocked. Back 3 years ago someone posted on XDA screenshots of conversation with Samsung Customer Service Rep saying the U.S. Galaxy 7/7+ would be bootloader unlocked. I pointed out carrier unlocked maybe -- but never bootloader unlocked. U.S. carriers won't allow that. The guy said, "No look I specifically asked about 'bootloader unlock' and I have screenshots to prove it." So, what? That's like asking a child the answer to a complex algebra equation. Of course the U.S. Galaxy S7/S7+ was not bootloader unlocked.
In all likelihood Sprint is now a dead brand. The FCC approved the merger with / take over by t-mobile. It will be interesting to see how legacy sprint phones are handled. It may be affecting support already, granted that is speculation.
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Ohhh... never say that. I heard of a previous LG phone where only the Korean version got the update, and not the other models... They were stuck on an older Android version .-.
Sprint seems to be slow in general... Not even sure if they released Pie for the V40 yet (only found a 18f for the LMV405UA3)
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Ohhh... never say that. I heard of a previous LG phone where only the Korean version got the update, and not the other models... They were stuck on an older Android version .-.
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Yeah I think something like that happened with LG G4
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In all likelihood Sprint is now a dead brand. The FCC approved the merger with / take over by t-mobile. It will be interesting to see how legacy sprint phones are handled. It may be affecting support already, granted that is speculation.
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Yes, Sprint is dying/will die. The need to T-mobile merger to bail them out. But with 15 states or whatever suing them, will still be another year before it comes to pass. These states have their hands out, want money.
If merger does not happen Sprint will file bankruptcy and in a year (same amount of time as merger) they will shed their debts but will be even smaller and less relevant. At this point in time, they are certainly NOT focused on releasing updates for a 2-year old phone. That makes them NO money. Selling new phones makes them money. If Sprint V30 is is not updated to Pie, this Christmas Sprint V30 owners may buy a new Sprint phone instead. So, the incentive is to NOT give update!
Sprint may soon be a dead brand ... one way or another
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/23/tech/sprint-history-tmobile-merger/index.html
I have a Sprint ThinQ V8 that is no longer active after receiving a new phone from T-Mobile (a few months back). T-Mobile ported the phone number and deactivated the LG V8 remotely.
How can I get my LG SIM/carrier unlocked or should it already be unlocked?
Thanks
wxfreak said:
I have a Sprint ThinQ V8 that is no longer active after receiving a new phone from T-Mobile (a few months back). T-Mobile ported the phone number and deactivated the LG V8 remotely.
How can I get my LG SIM/carrier unlocked or should it already be unlocked?
Thanks
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So, never did what you're describing. You had a G8 on t-mo network, you got a new phone from them, they ported the number to the new phone (why didn't you just take the sim out of the old one and put it in the new one?).
anyway, maybe when you say 'ported the number' yer basically saying on t-mo's website they now show the new phone instead of the old one. That's not really 'porting the number', that's just changing on their site which phone you have, and you put the old sim in the new phone?
Completely unsure what you mean 'deactivated the LG G8 remotely'? What? Is this a phone that you've completely paid for? If so, they have zero business doing anything with that phone other than carrier unlocking it.
you might want to explain a little more about what's going on.
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So, never did what you're describing. You had a G8 on t-mo network, you got a new phone from them, they ported the number to the new phone (why didn't you just take the sim out of the old one and put it in the new one?).
anyway, maybe when you say 'ported the number' yer basically saying on t-mo's website they now show the new phone instead of the old one. That's not really 'porting the number', that's just changing on their site which phone you have, and you put the old sim in the new phone?
Completely unsure what you mean 'deactivated the LG G8 remotely'? What? Is this a phone that you've completely paid for? If so, they have zero business doing anything with that phone other than carrier unlocking it.
you might want to explain a little more about what's going on.
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Thanks for the reply. Sorry for the confusion, I'm a newbie at understanding how everything works. The LG V8 ThinQ phone was obtained from Sprint and was on Sprints network until T-Mobile called offering a new Nord N200. When I got the Nord N200, I called T-Mobile customer service and they transferred the number from the LG to the Nord by guiding me on codes to enter. The LG has been payed off for awhile. Is there a way I can check to see if the LG is now carrier unlocked? Thanks in advance.
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Thanks for the reply. Sorry for the confusion, I'm a newbie at understanding how everything works. The LG V8 ThinQ phone was obtained from Sprint and was on Sprints network until T-Mobile called offering a new Nord N200. When I got the Nord N200, I called T-Mobile customer service and they transferred the number from the LG to the Nord by guiding me on codes to enter. The LG has been payed off for awhile. Is there a way I can check to see if the LG is now carrier unlocked? Thanks in advance.
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Oh, that explains it. Yes a simple way to check if it's unlocked is put a sim in it. If it connects to that carrier, you can make calls etc, then it's been unlocked. If it's not, call Sprint, I think they are legally bound to unlock it if it's paid off.