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Anyone here upgraded from Samsung S7 / Edge / Note 7

What's your experience so far with the Pixel XL?
I'm considering the Pixel XL but looks like there're a lot to lose in term of features (QI chargin, edge, compact body, SPay,...). I flashed mine S7e with the Unlocked U firmware so the bloatware is minimal and I'm getting >7hrs SOT. Is it worth it to switch?

Takes a little getting used to at first, I had the note 7, I will say this thing is a beast and doesn't lag like my note 7 did, also getting better battery with the same usage.

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Takes a little getting used to at first, I had the note 7, I will say this thing is a beast and doesn't lag like my note 7 did, also getting better battery with the same usage.
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The carrier's junks are bad. Since switched to the unlock firmware, my S7e feels like a different phone. No lag, run cooler, better battery life...

I came from the S7 (regular) and I've not looked back.
Love the bigger screen, the buttery smooth stock android and the battery is amazing (for my usage anyway!)

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I came from the S7 (regular) and I've not looked back.
Love the bigger screen, the buttery smooth stock android and the battery is amazing (for my usage anyway!)
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Not to mention it's possible at the moment to unlock, root, and do what you want with it. Really liking the photo sync at full resolution.

I've come from the s7e and I prefer this phone. I go through phones multiple times a year and this thing is a beast. Battery life is a lot better than my s7e and I much prefer the plain Android experience. Will hold onto this unless the mate 9 turns out to be epic.
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I upgraded from S7Edge. Its been a week now and i am loving pixel XL. Edge on S7Edge wasn't very useful to me...

just pulled the trigger today and ordered the xl, had the note 7, traded it in and was using my s6 for the time being. My s6 has turned into a giant pile, so i can not wait for december 9th when my xl ships. glad to hear some of the positive reviews

Upgraded to a Note 7 from a S7 Edge and to the Pixel XL from a Note 7... Enjoying the phone so far
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Came from a Note 7. There are definitely things I like about the pixel, but I certainly miss the Note. The s-pen, screen write, AoD, gif maker.. it just sucks to lose all that.
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Had the Note series since version 2. Had to find something to replace my 7. Never thought I would like a non Note device as much as I do this Pixel XL. Next year is going to be a tough choice between second generation Pixel or whatever Sammy calls the next Note. I do miss the AOD and Spen slightly, but Assistant, stock Android, battery life, always listening Google make up for it enough.

The main thing i miss from my Note 7 is the display ...boy nothing really seems to compare when outside .

been a samsung fan from the s1, had every phone, will no longer buy samsung due to locked bootloaders and bloated system even without carrier bloat. every single samsung lags, newer ones not as bad but still lag including the note 7 (bomb edition). the pixel just flies through every task, and being that your on xda, i would assume you like to mod your device, well in that category there is absolutely no comparason

razor237 said:
The main thing i miss from my Note 7 is the display ...boy nothing really seems to compare when outside .
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Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/kernel-elementalx-pxl-0-02-t3487072 and you can turn on HBM (high brightness mode) while outdoors, its just as bright if not brighter than my note 7.

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Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/kernel-elementalx-pxl-0-02-t3487072 and you can turn on HBM (high brightness mode) while outdoors, its just as bright if not brighter than my note 7.
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Thats exactly what ive been using , i have an app that sets it to auto just a bit flacky for me it likes to kick off to quickly. When i keep it on i will agree it matches close to the note 7, but i liked the stock adaptive brightness that got into to the high brightness smoothly .... just a little picky i know

No going back to samsung now. I love their camera, i love their crazy fast autofocus but damn the software on the XL, just spoils you. This is truly lag free and an amazingly refreshing experience. It's no nonsense, cuts to the job of getting things done and has really good battery life.

I Had s7e, and the pixel flies in comparison, or at least it feels that way. Camera on s7e seemed to load just a tad quicker, but otherwise the pixel is much better
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st3ph3nbr!tt said:
Had the Note series since version 2. Had to find something to replace my 7. Never thought I would like a non Note device as much as I do this Pixel XL. Next year is going to be a tough choice between second generation Pixel or whatever Sammy calls the next Note. I do miss the AOD and Spen slightly, but Assistant, stock Android, battery life, always listening Google make up for it enough.
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Assistant is nice but its essentially google now with games. Nevermind there are some things that GA doesnt do that Google Now does currently like tell you what song is currently playing.

pcriz said:
Assistant is nice but its essentially google now with games. Nevermind there are some things that GA doesnt do that Google Now does currently like tell you what song is currently playing.
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Yeah. I believe when they release the code for the developers to have third party access this month or next, the usefulness will change dramatically. Instead of google baking stuff in, they set up the AI to accommodate and going to let devs go wild. B4 long we will see it's true power. Also, I was more speaking of always listening assistant that I use often. I HATE Sammy disabling it and forcing S Voice. So I never even used it on Notes 5 or 7. Nice to have the google back.

st3ph3nbr!tt said:
Yeah. I believe when they release the code for the developers to have third party access this month or next, the usefulness will change dramatically. Instead of google baking stuff in, they set up the AI to accommodate and going to let devs go wild. B4 long we will see it's true power. Also, I was more speaking of always listening assistant that I use often. I HATE Sammy disabling it and forcing S Voice. So I never even used it on Notes 5 or 7. Nice to have the google back.
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What did Samsung disable? On my Note 7 and S7e I used Google Now fine and assistant in allo worked fine. They crippled the listening from always on when the screen is off to only allow when plugged in. I doubt it's pushing s voice though. I've never even opened the s voice app since the Note 4. Only reason I don't disable it is because it's tied to the voice to text framework
Correction, only reason I DIDN'T disable it, past tense

Anyone switched to the Galaxy Note 9?

Will I miss the fluidity of stock Android going to Note 9? Don't like the Pixel 3XL.
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I don't think you'll miss fluidity. The Note 9 shouldn't give you lag problems.
What you might miss is stock android. Samsung Experience isn't bad, but it isn't definitely for everyone.

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Will I miss the fluidity of stock Android going to Note 9? Don't like the Pixel 3XL.
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Yes. I did for 24 hours and returned it. Screen is amazing. Camera still is ok, but not the quality of Googles. The reason I didn't keep it was I still prefer simplicity of things. The Note 9, while extremely nice, is just loaded with so much ****. The S pen, very nice, but to be honest I'll rarely use it. Throw in the fact its over $1000 with taxes, I really couldn't justify having it. I loved the bigger cleaner brighter screen but again, it's that price. It's a great phone, but I found myself loading Oreo themes on it to keep myself sane. Ohhhhhhhhh BIGGEST FACTOR-no wifi calling added. I called Verizon and they weren't sure either. This was an imperative thing I need cause where I live signal is weak and I found myself almost unable to make calls at home.

I know this doesn't answer your question but I went from the Note 8 to the Pixel 2 XL as it is more reliable day to day use. Yes the Note series has some extra features but I prefer stock Android with monthly updates. Battery life has also been better on the Pixel 2 XL for me. However I would think that Samsung would have sorted battery issues with the Note 9s 4000 mah battery. I am still enjoying my Pixel 2 XL still runs smooth with no hiccups.
To me I would rather get Huawei Mate series over samsung Note series. Especially the upcoming Mate 20 Pro.

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Yes. I did for 24 hours and returned it. Screen is amazing. Camera still is ok, but not the quality of Googles. The reason I didn't keep it was I still prefer simplicity of things. The Note 9, while extremely nice, is just loaded with so much ****. The S pen, very nice, but to be honest I'll rarely use it. Throw in the fact its over $1000 with taxes, I really couldn't justify having it. I loved the bigger cleaner brighter screen but again, it's that price. It's a great phone, but I found myself loading Oreo themes on it to keep myself sane. Ohhhhhhhhh BIGGEST FACTOR-no wifi calling added. I called Verizon and they weren't sure either. This was an imperative thing I need cause where I live signal is weak and I found myself almost unable to make calls at home.
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You can make a Samsung phone look like a Pixel, but will still have all of Samsung's bloatware running in the background...which is why the Note 9 needs a 4000 mAh battery, and the Note 8 battery was inadequate.
If I ever go back to a Samsung phone, I will get a Note for the Spen. I didn't use the Spen much when I had my Note 2/3/4, and I probably wouldn't use it now. But the Spen is the only feature that makes Samsung truly unique. A Samsung phone without a Spen is just another phone but with a bunch of crap that I will never need.
It sounds like you must have purchased an unlocked Note 9. Most unlocked phones never allow WiFi calling or visual voicemail on VZW. Pixels are a rare exception.

I haven't yet but I will. Lately my Pixel 2 XL is crazy laggy and I'm not getting a Pixel 3 XL with only 4GB of RAM.
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What I would give for the Note 9 HW with Google SW .. Until then I'm sticking with the SW from Google
If I were to switch phones (which I won't) it would be the OnePlus 6 or OnePlus 6T

Sab3elbromba said:
What I would give for the Note 9 HW with Google SW .. Until then I'm sticking with the SW from Google
If I were to switch phones (which I won't) it would be the OnePlus 6 or OnePlus 6T
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Its a shame OP6 doesn't work on CMDA networks as I require Verizon network for where I work.

Switched From Pixel 2XL to Note 9 Today. . .
And I'm already regretting it. Verizon had a BOGO, and since I was porting my brother's line in anyway, decided to treat myself to a new Note 9, damn the fact I only got my Pixel 2XL the week of Christmas.
This is a nice rig, feels substantial and solid, but chew gum, Google cooks Android just the way I like it, and Samsung's UI is still just too busy for me to abide. My poor wife will prolly find herself with an unexpected upgrade to a Note 9 of own by week's end lol.
That said, if anyone knows of some witchcraft that'll allow me to see least make this Note 9 LOOK look like my beloved Pixel 2XL, please, let me know.
Thank you -zs

Nope, after using flagship Samsung devices for years, I'm keeping my "stock", bloatfree Android experience.
Quality software > slightly better hardware

sublimaze said:
You can make a Samsung phone look like a Pixel, but will still have all of Samsung's bloatware running in the background...which is why the Note 9 needs a 4000 mAh battery, and the Note 8 battery was inadequate.
If I ever go back to a Samsung phone, I will get a Note for the Spen. I didn't use the Spen much when I had my Note 2/3/4, and I probably wouldn't use it now. But the Spen is the only feature that makes Samsung truly unique. A Samsung phone without a Spen is just another phone but with a bunch of crap that I will never need.
It sounds like you must have purchased an unlocked Note 9. Most unlocked phones never allow WiFi calling or visual voicemail on VZW. Pixels are a rare exception.
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The closest you can get to making a Note 9 (or any other Samsung phone) look like a Pixel is by installing the Pixel launcher which is only a small part.

I think you should wait and keep the pixel 2 xl. It's highly likely that next year's s10 and note 10 will have a much more radical design with way better specs. The note 9 while nice, is nothing special. Samsung is now under more pressure than ever to update their design. My advice keep the phone , save your money.
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Will I miss the fluidity of stock Android going to Note 9? Don't like the Pixel 3XL.
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I know I sure as hell won't be getting a Note 9. I've been on stock Android since replacing my old Galaxy S2(that phone was such a piece of ****...worst purchase I've ever made) with a Nexus 5 followed by a Nexus 5X and my current Pixel 2 XL. Even though Samsung's software has improved quite a bit since the Galaxy S2 I still personally think it's crap compared to stock Android. Haven't used the Note 9 enough to tell if there is any lag but the Note 8 still had noticable lag and still has the same issues with greatly decreased performance after major updates that the Galaxy S2 had.
Also, considering the hardware the Note 9 battery life seems to be unimpressive. A brand new phone with a SD 845 and 4000mAh battery seems to be getting the same battery life as my 10 month old Pixel 2 XL with a SD 835 and 3520mAh battery.

I did, used it for 6 days and am back to my Pixel 2 XL and plan on selling the Note 9 on Swappa. Note 9 is nice and is certainly feature rich, but I just wasn't feeling it.

I have both the Pixel 2 XL and an unlocked Note 9, 512 GB/8 GB RAM. The software experience on the Pixel 2 XL is smoother but lacks customization. Here's what I did to achieve a clean look on the Note 9 and performance is very fast.
Install Nova Launcher
Install PixelizeD theme
Install patched Google Phone app
Install Nova Launcher
Install Gboard
Install Android Messages or Textra
Disable or deny permissions to Samsung equivalents
The Note 9 with better/bigger screen, bigger battery, more RAM, wireless charging, theme options is definitely my daily driver.
The Pixel 2 XL doesn't require any tweaks for smooth performance, but some may find the software too minimalist. The superior camera and fast updates are it's strongest selling points at the moment. Once Google fully implements its new material design with light and dark themes, it may finally have the cohesive look that skinned interfaces have provided.

Until (or if? ) Samsung fixes this I cannot foresee myself using the Note 9. This picture is unacceptable for a $1000+ device IMO

So, full disclosure - after posting the same pics on another forum someone suggested I check the rear picture camera size setting on my Note 9. Kinda feel stupid for not thinking about that myself as I have been tinkering with smartphones going on 10 years now ... but as it would turn out the size was set to 18.5:9 (7.9 MP) and not 4:3 (12 MP). Don't recall ever messing with this setting, but even if I did I would not opt for the lower MPs ... I just assumed it would be set to the max MP out of the box. Anyways, hoping this makes a substantial difference in what I've been seeing from the Note 9 pics, we shall see.

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So, full disclosure - after posting the same pics on another forum someone suggested I check the rear picture camera size setting on my Note 9. Kinda feel stupid for not thinking about that myself as I have been tinkering with smartphones going on 10 years now ... but as it would turn out the size was set to 18.5:9 (7.9 MP) and not 4:3 (12 MP). Don't recall ever messing with this setting, but even if I did I would not opt for the lower MPs ... I just assumed it would be set to the max MP out of the box. Anyways, hoping this makes a substantial difference in what I've been seeing from the Note 9 pics, we shall see.
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It still suggests a bug, because the camera should be capturing with square pixels, and the pixels should be displayed 1:1 -- scaled linearly in both dimensions.

le0.br4zuc4 said:
I haven't yet but I will. Lately my Pixel 2 XL is crazy laggy and I'm not getting a Pixel 3 XL with only 4GB of RAM.
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Return it if it is crazy laggy. They will switch it out for you no question aaked

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Until (or if? ) Samsung fixes this I cannot foresee myself using the Note 9. This picture is unacceptable for a $1000+ device IMO
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Taimen is still a slayer! Yaass!

Is it worth it to upgrade from the Note 8?

There seems to be a numver of issues with the S20, and nothing has really tempted me to upgrade aside from this phone.
My phone is becoming useless though. It's very slow, has a terrible screen response, and the battery is shot. This phone has disappointed me more than any other Note, and I don't even use the S pen often.
I'm not waiting on the Note 20, so would you upgrade to the S20 from the Note 8?
My husband and I are discussing the options for which one, I'm probably going with the ultra so I can have the camera, but we will never have 5G anywhere we live so that part is useless.
Does BK package disabler or a similar program work with this phone? I know never being able to root the Note 8 drove me nuts.
Thoughts?

I have an unlocked note8 and bought the AT&T S20 plus.
For me, the answer is yes - it was worth it.
I debated a long time about the Ultra - I think both the plus and ultra models are wonderful.
"zoom" camera even on the regular S20 is objectively better than the Note8.

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There seems to be a numver of issues with the S20, and nothing has really tempted me to upgrade aside from this phone.
My phone is becoming useless though. It's very slow, has a terrible screen response, and the battery is shot. This phone has disappointed me more than any other Note, and I don't even use the S pen often.
I'm not waiting on the Note 20, so would you upgrade to the S20 from the Note 8?
My husband and I are discussing the options for which one, I'm probably going with the ultra so I can have the camera, but we will never have 5G anywhere we live so that part is useless.
Does BK package disabler or a similar program work with this phone? I know never being able to root the Note 8 drove me nuts.
Thoughts?
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The Note20 will be better and faster than any S20 model.
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Upgraded from note 8 to S20
I myself upgraded from a Note 8 to an S20.
Mind you it is the S20 and not S20+ or ultra.
Both are exynos so my experience will be biased for exynos markets only.
1. Screen : Not much different in terms of screen quality but that refresh rate, IMO is the best thing for me as I can scroll endless pages of instagram and youtube and website scrolling is so amazing.
2. Camera : By far the biggest improvement from the Note 8 is the camera modules here.
I am not much into 8K gimmics but using the ultra wide, the Smooth 60 fps in both 4k and full hd are phenominal. Pictures come out very good.
3. Battery life : Using the 120hz leaves very little room for better battery life than the Note 8 but I am sure if in a pinch, dropping the screen refresh rate to 60 will easily give me a couple extra hours. So it will be good for those long road trips.
4. The best part , THE SMALL SIZE : Well, not really a small size at 6.2 inches. However, it is a huge difference between the huge note and this little handy yet powerful phone. The note 8 is roughly the size of s20+ and beleive me the note feels cluncky as hell now that I am used to the size of s20.
5. App opening speeds and basic day to day performance is far superior to that note.
Note: You may feel like the s20 heats up like crazy if used in continuation a lot or if some high end game is played for long, well I faced that problem a lot and I have already opened a thread in the discussion sections to talk with other owners about the problem. I found out that restoring from my note 8 using samsung switch was the biggest mistake I could do. I then cleaned the phone by doing a factory reset and set it up as a new device and I must say, I could not be any happier.
I would say go for the S20. You will not regret it.:fingers-crossed:
Thanks,
Kunal

Question Helping me make a decision

When ever a new phone comes out I get excited like many. My current phone is OP 8pro and is a great phone. But my previous phone was a Pixel 2Xl and I felt it was a great phone. The Pixel still had a better camara than the 8 Pro.
So now comes the Pixel 6 & 6 Pro. They look nice but the 6 pro is slightly bigger and heavier than my 8 Pro. I've searched a lot to see if the series has facial recognition. From what I've brought up I can't find if it has it not. At this point in a "flag ship" phone they should kick a... and have everything plus be a step ahead of anything that has come out with in 6 months.
Does the 6 series beat out my 8 pro, significantly? Should I think about a 9 pro?
Or stay put for another year, maybe wait the OP 10?
Thanks for ay input!

I'm trading my OnePlus 9 Pro in for the Pixel 6 Pro. I can assure you despite what you see in reviews the camera on the 9 Pro isn't quite top notch. Also with OnePlus, they are folding into parent company Oppo completely so my tenure with them has now concluded after having the 6T/7T Pro McLaren/8T/9 Pro.

One plus are basically becoming oppo and one reason I'm changing my oppo Reno 2 for a 6 Pro is that awful updates that oppo do. I've had one actual proper update come through on the phone in 2 years. I've had to mess about using VPN connections to connect to different countries to get any security updates from them. The one Android update they did release almost broke the phone. I'd never go back to them. I had a pixel 2xl previously, which I've still got, and it was flawless even when I had to use it while trying to fix the oppo. I'm looking forward to going back to a phone with regular updates and updates that actually work.

I know too well it's difficult to decide very often. The Pro is slightly heavier than my Note 10+, too - about the same dimensions, just slightly longer and narrower, IIRC, than the Note 10+.
I haven't used facial recognition yet, but maybe I would eventually if it became available. For me, the selling points for the 6 Pro were the 512 GB of storage and the pure Android that works as Google intended it to work - without Samsung's **** software that doesn't work very well even with Google's standard apps.
If you're happy with the software on your OP 8 Pro, I'd stick with it since it has the facial recognition you prefer. That said, the two previous responses are pretty convincing to get the 6 Pro.
If you're still itching for a new phone, though, then absolutely, go for the 6 Pro unless you want to stay smaller, then go for the non-Pro 6 unless you need the 512 GB storage model of the Pro.

I currently have the OP 8 Pro and while the P6 Pro may weigh a little more, the OP is just a hair taller, and they look to be the exact same width. I never found the camera on the OP to be very good. The modded Gcam app works better, imo. So, along with what I'm assuming is going to be a stellar camera, I'm also excited about the AI integration Google wants to bring with their tensor chip. For me, it was a no brainer. I've had the OP for two years and it's starting to show. I think the 6 Pro will be quite a step up.

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I'm trading my OnePlus 9 Pro in for the Pixel 6 Pro. I can assure you despite what you see in reviews the camera on the 9 Pro isn't quite top notch. Also with OnePlus, they are folding into parent company Oppo completely so my tenure with them has now concluded after having the 6T/7T Pro McLaren/8T/9 Pro.
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Seeing the reviews, the 6p is close to the iPhone 13 pro max' camera, if not better. However, the tensor chip seems to fall behind but Google did this on purpose and that was to extend battery life despite having a slower processor than their competitors

All of the above have pro's and con's....and price points!
Flagships ftw

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Seeing the reviews, the 6p is close to the iPhone 13 pro max' camera, if not better. However, the tensor chip seems to fall behind but Google did this on purpose and that was to extend battery life despite having a slower processor than their competitors
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Yes, and I am in agreeance on the 6 Pro camera. I was referencing the OnePlus 9 Pro since the OP mentioned it as a possible contender. The Tensor exceeds in the GPU category vs an 888 only slightly, and is also slightly behind in the CPU space vs the 888.

Man, all great inputs thanks!! I understand what some of you've said about the updates. When I had my 2 xl , it was cool that they'd get the updates first. As far as OP, going forward, that it will not be the same OP, that's sad and it's maybe time to "go back home" to a Pixel.

Here's my two cents;
I've been on Android since the HTC H1/Dream. Flashed the heck out of it and eventually got myself a DroidX. From there, I went all into the Nexus line. After that turned into Pixel, I stayed with pixel phones. I like to test phones so over the course of time, I had the OnePlus One (loved that phone). I still have my OnePlus 2, tried several phones from HTC LG; used a Samsung s10 for a good while and I still keep some of my favorite phones, they still all work and I still love them and try to keep them updated with custom AOSP roms; my Nexus 5 is still alive and well, the OnePlus X is still fantastic to hold, the Palm phone is an amazing form factor, the Essential PH-1 is incredible to this day (minus the **** cameras), preferring smaller phones, the Xperia XZ1 Compact is awesome, I just got rid of my old OnePlus 5t and both my brother and my best friend are deep into OnePlus since the One.
But I always end up coming back to a Pixel.
Like someone already said, the cameras are fabulous, but they are definitely not "the best", however, in my experience, they ARE the most consistently close to the best. At the time, the Samsung Galaxy s10 had, arguably, a better camera than the pixel of the era (Pixel 3 or Pixel 4, depending on the date, since pixels release late in the year) but it was never as consistent (with me). With the pixel, I always knew I could double tap the power button and take a shot in just a few seconds, and the picture would come out consistently great. People can get amazing shots with a OnePlus, but it requires more effort than the consistency of the pixel.
I don't really care all that much about picture quality, despite what it may seem, but I think it is a good reflection of essentially everything else. Nothing is really THE most important part of a phone for me except for "feel", and my golden standard is the Nexus 5. Perfect size. The Pixel 3 is also a great feeling device. Sure, RAM is important, but in this day and age, for most people, I'd say 6GB or more is good enough. Less than 128GB of storage is not worth getting at this point. Fast charging is cool, just like wireless charging, but a battery that'll live throughout the day is a necessity (this is one thing Pixels have NEVER been able to excel at, for example, hopefully the 6 changes that).
Then there's the OS, and what comes with it (like, updates). Samsung has gotten MUCH better. Their Touchwiz was absolutely atrocious. But OneUI is not bad. It seems like most manufacturers are going now for a more muted skin than they used to (MotoBlur was pretty bad, HTC Sense was pretty, but heavy, TouchWiz was awful, Miui was an iOS copy) so we're far better off now, but it's easy to misrepresent how awesome it feels to receive updates in time. Google announces a new OS, and you've got it. All the new goodies (mostly). While on any other manufacturer, you MIGHT get it in 3 months, you might not get it at all.
I've been on Android 12 since beta 3 a couple of months ago, on a Pixel 3.
I skipped the 5, sold my 4 and went down to the 3, which still works great. I am hoping the 6 is not huge. Needless to say, I preordered the 6. 256gb. I personally think they did a very compelling job. Sure, it's got last years 5g hardware. Sure, there's no "small" version. Sure, the SoC is not exactly better than what Qualcomm puts out. But I think by now, I've made the point that a phone is more than the sum of its parts. And it seems, imo, that Google found a pretty good balance, with a competitive and consistently great camera, a fantastic feeling phone, at a reasonable price.

Question I really like my Pixel 6 Pro

I've had my 6 Pro since December. I installed the December patch before it got pulled. I'm coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro that I loved.
The camera is amazing. The screen is great. I really like the call screening feature (which only arrived for me after the January update).
The finger print sensor is milliseconds slower than my OnePlus 7 Pro and is about the same accuracy.
My screen hasn't randomly cracked yet.
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
I thought that the cutout would bother me more than it does. I notice it once in a while and I cringe when I see it compared to my OnePlus 7 Pro but even OnePlus doesn't offer a display without obstruction anymore so not many choices there.
Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
That being said over all I really really like the Pixel 6 Pro. There's some things I guess I don't like about Android and trends in the mobile phone manufacturing industry that I don't love but that's different than the phone.
I think most people will love their Pixel 6 and won't have any issues at all.

I love my P6 pro as well. Although I really hate to say it, the fingerprint on the back of the device like my old P3xl would make this phone flawless for me. But I still love my phone.

love the device so much i took a big financial hit to get rid of my Z fold 3 for one - samsung wont be seeing me for a long time

wulfgarfang said:
I love my P6 pro as well. Although I really hate to say it, the fingerprint on the back of the device like my old P3xl would make this phone flawless for me. But I still love my phone.
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Same. The Pixel 3xl was the best phone ever, and the fingerprint sensor was the best thing about it! They should go back to that model, using through the screen is clunky and causes fingerprints.

metanbeky said:
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
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I use Android Auto every day and I haven't had a problem. Every few years I sometimes run into consistent problems with Android Auto and replacing the cable I'm using (with another high-quality USB 3.x cable) always fixes the issue.
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Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
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I avoided gestures until I got the Pixel 6 Pro. I finally resigned myself and mostly haven't minded it. If you want to continue avoiding using the navbar but want a workaround for swiping up from the bottom, Nova Launcher might give you close to what you want.
If you want to use the navigation bar then Nova Launcher should be able to be configured to completely do what you want with the swipe up from the bottom gesture.
It's fair if you don't want to use a custom launcher, though. I've sworn by Nova for the last 10+ years IIRC. Every time I give something else a try, I go back, and I don't bother trying anything else anymore.

Having used Samsung and OnePlus devices, I love the swipe up to go back feature. It results in far fewer accidental back presses than the default Google ones. For me, it was worth rooting and installing Fluid Navigation Gestures to get that feature on the Pixel 6 Pro.

Yeah, despite it's flaws, the p6pro is a great phone imo.
I got the 256gb model and bought a 30w pixel charger for it. Rooted it the 1st day I got it.
But the Bluetooth cuts out upon connection with my Sony bt headphones.
I'm on a13 DP2 and it's brilliant. Can't use viper tho
I love my p6pro too.

The only real complaint I have is battery life and photo quality. My pixel 2XL had better quality photos that weren't overly processed and were sharper.
Battery life is meh; I feel it drains too quickly and gets overly hot from just web browsing and texting.
I'd like to see more customization within the OS, since Samsung has an array of customization options Google refuses to provide. I don't mind using custom roms for that purpose, but they can be buggy and often break features from stock.

metanbeky said:
I've had my 6 Pro since December. I installed the December patch before it got pulled. I'm coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro that I loved.
The camera is amazing. The screen is great. I really like the call screening feature (which only arrived for me after the January update).
The finger print sensor is milliseconds slower than my OnePlus 7 Pro and is about the same accuracy.
My screen hasn't randomly cracked yet.
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
I thought that the cutout would bother me more than it does. I notice it once in a while and I cringe when I see it compared to my OnePlus 7 Pro but even OnePlus doesn't offer a display without obstruction anymore so not many choices there.
Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
That being said over all I really really like the Pixel 6 Pro. There's some things I guess I don't like about Android and trends in the mobile phone manufacturing industry that I don't love but that's different than the phone.
I think most people will love their Pixel 6 and won't have any issues at all.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm still using my OnePlus 7 Pro. Yesterday, I used it for a Zoom meeting and the selfie camera is way better than the crappy one on my computer.
The Pixel 6 looks great. I'd get the Samsung 22,because I've hade Notes in the past, but their privacy policies are really creepy.