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Is Touchwiz really slower than stock Android?

We all love to rag on Touchwiz for being a bloated lag beast and pray for the day we can flash CM to get rid of it. However, there is a way to compare stock Touchwiz vs stock Android on two devices with exactly the same hardware specs and surprisingly, the difference is not that significant.
The takeaway is that Touchwiz seems faster loading video while stock Android is faster loading web content - I have a theory for this based upon how Touchwiz parses javascript, but that's another thread . On a benchmark basis the two are within a few hundred points of each other.
Anyway, here is an interesting video of a guy testing the S4 Play Edition (pure Android) vs the S4 Touchwiz Edition, both all stock and brand new with no rom optimizations or debloating. It's interesting and shows that while stock Android may be a bit faster overall, the difference is far less than one might have imagined. Of course the results may be different on the Tab S.

Nice, but surprising report. Guess the skeptics will need something else to complain about.
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If only those 2 models were comparing Exynos vs Snapdragon.....then we would have a better understanding.
But I can say for sure, in daily use, Touchwiz is noticeably slower than stock.

kenkiller said:
If only those 2 models were comparing Exynos vs Snapdragon.....then we would have a better understanding.
But I can say for sure, in daily use, Touchwiz is noticeably slower than stock.
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The thread is about TOUCHWIZ Vs ANDROID not Exynos vs Snapdragon. In this test anyway there doesn't appear to be much difference between the 2 running on the same platform. YMMV.
Apparently, Kitkat 4.4 introduced aggressive cpu throttling at much lower temps than prior Android versions. This may be something that is causing slowdowns you have perceived with prolonged use. While this increases battery life, it crushes performance. Fortunately a good kernel should be able to address this. In this case the hardware is fine, it is the OS which is screwing things up. I guess Google saw that people care more about battery life than blazing performance.
Anyway, here is the article. Interesting.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/sa...at-performance-cpu-throttling-dvfs,26414.html
Again this is for the S4. Not sure how it applies to the Tab S.
Here is a thread by a dev who was able to disable the DVFS throttling on the s4. He claims that is to blame and not KitKat directly. Will research to see if thee is anything similar for the Tab S.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2674928

Ok, I see that using Wanam Xposed you can disable Samsung DVFS in Advanced Settings. No idea if this works on our Tab S but I disabled it and nothing seemed to break on reboot. This should not increase benchmarks, just stop excessive throttling. One would guess you will see better performance and worse battery life.
We'll see.

mitchellvii said:
Ok, I see that using Wanam Xposed you can disable Samsung DVFS in Advanced Settings. No idea if this works on our Tab S but I disabled it and nothing seemed to break on reboot. This should not increase benchmarks, just stop excessive throttling. One would guess you will see better performance and worse battery life.
We'll see.
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Hi Mitchell, did the battery life turn out worse?
Still deciding whether to root my tab our not (root loses a tv streaming program in belgian which is quite handy)

All I have to say is load up my alpha rom and see for yourself. It's like the difference between a tablet that came out this month (CM) and a tablet that came out three years ago (TW) performance wise.
I've gone from thinking about selling it to wondering how many years its going to be before they can produce a tablet that makes me want to upgrade.

eousphoros said:
All I have to say is load up my alpha rom and see for yourself. It's like the difference between a tablet that came out this month (CM) and a tablet that came out three years ago (TW) performance wise.
I've gone from thinking about selling it to wondering how many years its going to be before they can produce a tablet that makes me want to upgrade.
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Soon as you're ready to pop out an 800 I'll be on it.

mitchellvii said:
Soon as you're ready to pop out an 800 I'll be on it.
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There is a pre-alpha build up for the t800. Unfortunately I don't have one to debug but I hear it boots, touch screen works, but no wifi.

eousphoros said:
There is a pre-alpha build up for the t800. Unfortunately I don't have one to debug but I hear it boots, touch screen works, but no wifi.
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Oh cool. I'll hold off on trying it until WiFi gets going but will watch for it.

mitchellvii said:
Oh cool. I'll hold off on trying it until WiFi gets going but will watch for it.
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It will probably be a bit. I don't own the 800 and mainly posted that to show it was possible. If I finish the 700 before the baby is born and no one else has picked it up then I'll try to get it finished.

thomas_pieps said:
Hi Mitchell, did the battery life turn out worse?
Still deciding whether to root my tab our not (root loses a tv streaming program in belgian which is quite handy)
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You can use rootcloak + xposed module. the tv streaming app will not detect your root.

mitchellvii said:
I guess Google saw that people care more about battery life than blazing performance.
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Yes and this is one reason why I get sick of people moaning about battery life all the time. It's a mobile device constrained by current technology and what size battery can be squeezed in.
Yet people still expect 3 days battery, super duper speed and a nice slim light device.
For me I accept the limited capabilities of a battery in a mobile device and think they do a pretty good job as it is.
I want a mix of performance and battery, but I'll gladly sacrifice a bit of battery life for a lag free , smooth device.
However the more people moan about battery life the more the scales will tip to battery life at the cost of performance.

I would be willing to except a tablet a mm thicker to have a bigger battery
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thomas_pieps said:
Hi Mitchell, did the battery life turn out worse?
Still deciding whether to root my tab our not (root loses a tv streaming program in belgian which is quite handy)
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you can use a root hider application to hide that application from root

android system battery drain

Hi, does anyone know how to fix android system battery drain, i had this since i upgraded to android n and im on oxygen os 4.0.3

Nope.. How is your SoT? How much power does Android system consume? Mine is 403mAh after 4h SoT. As I can see it is not ridiculous high.

Puddi_Puddin said:
Nope.. How is your SoT? How much power does Android system consume? Mine is 403mAh after 4h SoT. As I can see it is not ridiculous high.
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Same here , i get 3.5 to 4 hours of sot , while i used to get 5 before the update.

ironshadow2 said:
Same here , i get 3.5 to 4 hours of sot , while i used to get 5 before the update.
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That flat line is without airplane mode. WiFi everything on. I found it pretty decent.

ironshadow2 said:
Hi, does anyone know how to fix android system battery drain, i had this since i upgraded to android n and im on oxygen os 4.0.3
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I also have the same issue. Since upgraing to nougat andeoid system drain has always been high even on custom roms although not as high as oos. And yeah based on my usage i too get an sot of 4 hours whereas i used to get 5 hours on similar usage on marshmallow.
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bonham1988 said:
I also have the same issue. Since upgraing to nougat andeoid system drain has always been high even on custom roms although not as high as oos. And yeah based on my usage i too get an sot of 4 hours whereas i used to get 5 hours on similar usage on marshmallow.
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Ok thnx , now i know its because of android n , hope it get better with software update .

Same here.
Battery has seen a big hit since Nougat. Wish I did not update. I can barely get 3h SoT.

I was facing same problem after update... Android OS was eating hell lots of battery.. ive installed custom rom nw my cell us working damn good
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d.a.v.o.r said:
Same here.
Battery has seen a big hit since Nougat. Wish I did not update. I can barely get 3h SoT.
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Have you tried wiping caches? Letting battery go to absolute zero. Then charging without turning phone off?
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MrWilsonxD said:
Have you tried wiping caches? Letting battery go to absolute zero. Then charging without turning phone off?
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I have no interest in doing any such maintenance things. Which is a strange thing to be saying on these boards, I know

I started having issues with the OS using an unusually high amount of power a week ago. I was using EX kernel and manager. I didn't change anything, but I don't morning my phone was noticeably warm and the battery was draining very quickly. I tried a few different OOS based rom/kernel combinations. Anytime I install a custom kernel or even any apps that provide kernel tweaking options (even if I never open them), the issues return. The small cores rarely dip below 1190 MHz and the big cores stay at 1478mhz or higher. It sleeps normally when the screen is off. The only way to get lower speeds with screen on is to set max lower than that, then they just stay maxed out and everything lags. I tried with fresh installs and even went back to ext4. It's strange, as I'd been using the same Experience rom/EX kernel setup for quite some time when the issue arose. Now I'm still on Experience, but with stock kernel and no tweaking apps, and I'm back to 5+hrs SOT.

d.a.v.o.r said:
I have no interest in doing any such maintenance things. Which is a strange thing to be saying on these boards, I know
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So you'll complain but not do anything to try and fix it. All phones have problems eventually. Just like cars. They all require maintenance.

MrWilsonxD said:
So you'll complain but not do anything to try and fix it. All phones have problems eventually. Just like cars. They all require maintenance.
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You expect aunts and uncles and mother and fathers to mess with wiping cache in their phones?
That's insane.
OP3 have themselves said "flagship killer" which means it0s intended for the same audience as GS7 and such phones. So no friking tinkering. it has to just work.
That being said, i'm still happy with my OP3 and Nougat overall. But battery life is somewhat worse.

d.a.v.o.r said:
You expect aunts and uncles and mother and fathers to mess with wiping cache in their phones?
That's insane.
OP3 have themselves said "flagship killer" which means it0s intended for the same audience as GS7 and such phones. So no friking tinkering. it has to just work.
That being said, i'm still happy with my OP3 and Nougat overall. But battery life is somewhat worse.
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I don't think it's insane. I know a lot of technologically capable older folk. They're definitely the minority xD but seriously, that does not change the fact you came on here, complained about batt life, see things that could improve it that are extremely simple, but won't do it. Leave the aunts and uncles out of you not wanting to do maintenance.
In my experience, I've seen every single phone had problems iPhones every generation, flagship Samsung DEFINITELY, ZTE, etc. I don't think any phone automatically "just works." At the same time, while my note 4 was running at an ambient temperature of 60°C on a daily basis, I've had friends who have faced identical problems and never had their phone get hot. No phone is perfect.
My mom jailbroke our iPhone 3 and 4. When we went to Android, she knew how root and remove bloatware a full year before i did. She's a City bus driver. So i don't think counting out my elders is quite fair. I was introduced to OnePlus by someone well over 55. Back when it was the invite system lol.
These experiences may or may not be considered anecdotal, but i am very happy to hear you still enjoy your OnePlus 3 man.

Great Battery on LOS Nougat roms!! :)

Hey folks. I'm sharing something nice i've been using for a week that I am very happy with.
First of all, I'm a humble guy and I'm not into coding like many respectable members from here are.
Since I changed to Los based ROM ( ressurection remix + dragonxia kernel- thanks to pappschlumpf, the only complaint I had was the battery. With MIUI ROMs battery used to last a lot ( at costs of performance and limited multitasking, I must say), and this was a nice Thing
After googling a little bit, I found out on XDA another thread belonging to people who uses the OP3 smartphone. On that thread they've created a project called AKT that states for advanced kernel tweaks.
So thing is, those tweaks were first released for snapdragon 820 processor, but latest versions supports tweaks on our Chipset (snapdragon 821). Using the instructions on the thread I was able to get a good battery with consistent performance ( need more time to quantify - I'm using zana balanced profile), much better comparing to stock settings. Its also good to remember that not all settings are applied because of the limitations of the kernel..
So here is the link:
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/advanced-interactive-governor-tweaks-t3476589
Hope it helps you if you were having the same problems as I was, any other suggestions are also welcome
Screenshots with battery profile "fusion conservative"

Been using Ghostpepper from that thread for a while now, works great on both Lineage/RR and MIUI. Good stuff!

xxBrun0xx said:
Been using Ghostpepper from that thread for a while now, works great on both Lineage/RR and MIUI. Good stuff!
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It needs to be known for more people, this is a very good tweak that serves well SD821 Chipsets and it's great on our device..! :victory:

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Hey. Can you just describe 'Great battery' with farther information(or proof) like how much Screen on Time(from 100 percentage to end), total battery life, used apps during the session etc? Saying just 'Great battery' doesn't mean a lot though. Thanks.

Konsstantine34 said:
Hey. Can you just describe 'Great battery' with farther information(or proof) like how much Screen on Time(from 100 percentage to end), total battery life, used apps during the session etc? Saying just 'Great battery' doesn't mean a lot though. Thanks.
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Just install this app and choose a battery profile. You notice the difference for sure

valerio.tosti said:
Just install this app and choose a battery profile. You notice the difference for sure
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I know that app for a while, didn't try it yet though. I just wonder what does 'Great battery' mean for anyone who puts it into word. It means +9H SOT over a day for me, which I actually get.
Im sure there would be a difference but that wasn't the point of my post.
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Konsstantine34 said:
I know that app for a while, didn't try it yet though. I just wonder what does 'Great battery' mean for anyone who puts it into word. It means +9H SOT over a day for me, which I actually get.
Im sure there would be a difference but that wasn't the point of my post.
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I will put a screenshot of the end of the day.

Konsstantine34 said:
I know that app for a while, didn't try it yet though. I just wonder what does 'Great battery' mean for anyone who puts it into word. It means +9H SOT over a day for me, which I actually get.
Im sure there would be a difference but that wasn't the point of my post.
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I agree with you my friend, and I think the more suitable world to describe it would be "better"
Since this is the first week im using AKT, im running some tests and varying many of the profiles on my daily smartphone use, so my battery levels aren't consistent to a fixed kind of profile
Anyway, As other user said, if you are on a LOS ROM you will notice how battery drain is very high. If you try it you will see the difference, and I think it's worth trying since it's free..

Here are some screens of my battery life. Used battery (ZHANA)profile in akt app. And 15% performance profile to play mupen64 games.
So u see batterylife is amazing in my opinion. And still have 20% left
I think the phone would make 18Hours battery with one charge.

valerio.tosti said:
Here are some screens of my battery life. Used battery (ZHANA)profile in akt app. And 15% performance profile to play mupen64 games.
So u see batterylife is amazing in my opinion. And still have 20% left
I think the phone would make 18Hours battery with one charge.
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I dont use any battery saver stuff, only Mi's background restriction. And Im using my device with 9 active xposed modules, live status bar indicators, live widgets and wallpaper, lots of app including two or three games like RR3, brightness %60+ under the daylight, low 4G signal+wifi(Smart radio switch when screen is off) and here is what I get(sometimes):
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Konsstantine34 said:
I dont use any battery saver stuff, only Mi's background restriction. And Im using my device with 9 active xposed modules, live status bar indicators, live widgets and wallpaper, lots of app including two or three games like RR3, brightness %60+ under the daylight, low 4G signal+wifi(Smart radio switch when screen is off) and here is what I get(sometimes):
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That's very nice results, but:
1) Do you have problems with notifications on this MIUI rom(like messages not arriving at the real time when the phone is on standby)?
3) Do You also keep GPS ON?
2) Have you tried a LOS ROM?

renganyen said:
That's very nice results, but:
1) Do you have problems with notifications on this MIUI rom(like messages not arriving at the real time when the phone is on standby)?
3) Do You also keep GPS ON?
2) Have you tried a LOS ROM?
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Thanks,
1. Since background activity is restricted; nothing comes in background. Besides; I always disable whole notifications, led, for all those apps. I only check them when i want lol.
2. Yes, I've tried LOS for 15 minutes then returned to miui immediately.
3. I use navigation sometimes, it reduces SOT remarkably, that's why i keep it off when it's not needed.
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Konsstantine34 said:
Thanks,
2. Yes, I've tried LOS for 15 minutes then returned to miui immediately.
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I am trying up this tweaks on RR from today. Let's see how it goes. So far best battery on a LOS based rom I had with AICP, and still nothing approaches EPIC rom, especially the latest marshmallow build.

albertoduqe said:
I am trying up this tweaks on RR from today. Let's see how it goes. So far best battery on a LOS based rom I had with AICP, and still nothing approaches EPIC rom, especially the latest marshmallow build.
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I would even ignore if the battery would worse on Los, or RR though. I don't really care battery life since i've got a secondary device on my pocket. The deal breaker is Xposed all alone [emoji1] Dammit I can't stand without my status bar set up, not even for a day to test Nougats.
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Konsstantine34 said:
I would even ignore if the battery would worse on Los, or RR though. I don't really care battery life since i've got a secondary device on my pocket. The deal breaker is Xposed all alone [emoji1] Dammit I can't stand without my status bar set up, not even for a day to test Nougats.
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:laugh:
Man you really need to get over it and try Substratum or whatnot

albertoduqe said:
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Man you really need to get over it and try Substratum or whatnot
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Thanks, but no thanks Im ok with MM for now.
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Thanks, but no thanks Im ok with MM for now.
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Hey, I got it and I agree with you, the best battery of this device is from MM MIUI.. But still you are keeping notifications not delivering properly and keeping GPS OFF.
Its a personal taste of course, but On LOS ROMS this phone is almost perfect, as another user mentioned here. On MIUI I had many problems about my notifications ( I didn't receive them without a significant delay) and with multitasking options, even disabling the tweaks to save battery.
Not to mention that MIUI is not customizable as LOS..
As I agree with the other user, this phone is a BEAST with LOS ROMS..
The only problem with LOS roms I had was the battery and the camera ( yea the camera has a better consistence on point-and-shoot mode on miui).
With this mod, battery is very good and acceptable, WITH GPS ON AND LTE ON AS WELL. For me, so far, it's lasting more than 12 hours with around 3:30 sot, LTE on and GPS on, and that's great :laugh:
I think we'll have the best battery and performance when xiaomi releases official release nougat for our device

renganyen said:
Hey, I got it and I agree with you, the best battery of this device is from MM MIUI.. But still you are keeping notifications not delivering properly and keeping GPS OFF.
Its a personal taste of course, but On LOS ROMS this phone is almost perfect, as another user mentioned here. On MIUI I had many problems about my notifications ( I didn't receive them without a significant delay) and with multitasking options, even disabling the tweaks to save battery.
Not to mention that MIUI is not customizable as LOS..
As I agree with the other user, this phone is a BEAST with LOS ROMS..
The only problem with LOS roms I had was the battery and the camera ( yea the camera has a better consistence on point-and-shoot mode on miui).
With this mod, battery is very good and acceptable, WITH GPS ON AND LTE ON AS WELL. For me, so far, it's lasting more than 12 hours with around 3:30 sot, LTE on and GPS on, and that's great :laugh:
I think we'll have the best battery and performance when xiaomi releases official release nougat for our device
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Side note; my all day Gps on for Navigation, Lte on usage was like over 5H sot/14H total. Damn tough battery though. My first Xiaomi device but I've been using Miui on my previous devices. I will keep miui on it until frickin xposed shows up for Nougat. Ps. Never flashed a Miui nougat rom yet
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Konsstantine34 said:
I dont use any battery saver stuff, only Mi's background restriction. And Im using my device with 9 active xposed modules, live status bar indicators, live widgets and wallpaper, lots of app including two or three games like RR3, brightness %60+ under the daylight, low 4G signal+wifi(Smart radio switch when screen is off) and here is what I get(sometimes):
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Konstantine, everyone understand that the battery is BETTER on MIUI ROMS. No discussion about it. What I'm talking about is a good battery that can last a Day with GPS, LTE on all the time, with no battery saving apps ( or background data restrictions), ON LOS roms. LOS ROMS .
If you use it on miui, I really don't know the results, but I think the battery WONT BE BETTER THAN IT ALREADY IS on miui Roms ( most specifically epic rom), if you use this mod
So, If you ever plan to try LOS roms, give this mod a try, it's nice.

albertoduqe said:
I am trying up this tweaks on RR from today. Let's see how it goes. So far best battery on a LOS based rom I had with AICP, and still nothing approaches EPIC rom, especially the latest marshmallow build.
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The profiles I've been testing I'm having a good performance and battery with "fusion conservative" ( doesnt lags like zhana), like 14-16 hours with about 3:40 screen time

Just trade p20 pro for this and a laptop, need advice on battery replacement

Looks like my xl 2 is in need of a battery, she drains from 100--->80 in the first hour I'm home. I've found many online but thought I would ask the community if anyone has found a reputable dealer for replacement batteries. I've had issue with past iPhone batteries being less than stellar.
Also ****ing love this phone, couldn't have gotten rid of my P20 fast enough!

Try rooting and using Flash Kernel. Insane battery life.

Gravol said:
Looks like my xl 2 is in need of a battery, she drains from 100--->80 in the first hour I'm home. I've found many online but thought I would ask the community if anyone has found a reputable dealer for replacement batteries. I've had issue with past iPhone batteries being less than stellar.
Also ****ing love this phone, couldn't have gotten rid of my P20 fast enough!
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What made you get rid of the P20 Pro?

dieselhazza said:
What made you get rid of the P20 Pro?
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Just wasn't a fan of the stock EMUI and then there wasn't much in the world of roms or kernels. I mean project treble was nice, I loved the havoc rom as it ran smooth and had some nice customization. It just didnt have the notch figured out yet or some other P20 pro specifics fingerprint etc. I wasn't blown away by the battery by any stretch even since, day one. The camera was however quite impressive, the night mode especially and great portraits. Soon as I got my hands on this pixel though, fell in love and not sure why it just, its just a nice device haha.

def-g said:
Try rooting and using Flash Kernel. Insane battery life.
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Will try that not before heading out for work, I just can tell by a few small features on the device that its not spring chicken so my assumption is its at least a year plus old.
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So after literally download and flashing that kernel, typing just this edit using my phone I'm down 3%. Maybe it takes a bit to optimize I'm not really sure. I will say it does at least last me an entire day! (On the Stock kernel I mean)

Gravol said:
Will try that not before heading out for work, I just can tell by a few small features on the device that its not spring chicken so my assumption is its at least a year plus old.
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So after literally download and flashing that kernel, typing just this edit using my phone I'm down 3%. Maybe it takes a bit to optimize I'm not really sure. I will say it does at least last me an entire day! (On the Stock kernel I mean)
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You're Pixel 2XL can't be a year plus old. They we're announced October 4th of last year, so they weren't available even a year ago.

dieselhazza said:
What made you get rid of the P20 Pro?
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You're Pixel 2XL can't be a year plus old. They we're announced October 4th of last year, so they weren't available even a year ago.
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Oh well then lol, I guess I'm the idiot!
Just seems weird the battery drain is incredible. Maybe my expectations are simply just high, either way very pleased with the device

Gravol said:
Oh well then lol, I guess I'm the idiot!
Just seems weird the battery drain is incredible. Maybe my expectations are simply just high, either way very pleased with the device
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You're not an idiot. Well, I don't know I've never met you IRL. You could be, I guess, LOL.
Seriously, though, not doubting your bad battery life. It's likely a rogue app. Or maybe really poor radio signal so your phone is constantly polling for a stronger signal.
You could always try running in safe mode, which disables all 3rd party apps. If battery life improves, then you know it's an app causing the drain.
If that doesn't work, try running in airplane mode. This will always increase battery life, but if it takes care of your abnormal drain, then you know it's related to signal strength.
All else fails, do a factory reset, don't restore anything, and run it for a while with no 3rd party apps.
If that fails to fix it, it could simply be a hardware issue. Its an electronic device. They fail and do funky things sometimes. You could always call Google and see if they will RMA it for a bad battery. Or if you have a UBreakIFix store near you, go talk to them. They are a Google partner and the one here in town is very knowledgeable.

dieselhazza said:
What made you get rid of the P20 Pro?
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
You're not an idiot. Well, I don't know I've never met you IRL. You could be, I guess, LOL.
Seriously, though, not doubting your bad battery life. It's likely a rogue app. Or maybe really poor radio signal so your phone is constantly polling for a stronger signal.
You could always try running in safe mode, which disables all 3rd party apps. If battery life improves, then you know it's an app causing the drain.
If that doesn't work, try running in airplane mode. This will always increase battery life, but if it takes care of your abnormal drain, then you know it's related to signal strength.
All else fails, do a factory reset, don't restore anything, and run it for a while with no 3rd party apps.
If that fails to fix it, it could simply be a hardware issue. Its an electronic device. They fail and do funky things sometimes. You could always call Google and see if they will RMA it for a bad battery. Or if you have a UBreakIFix store near you, go talk to them. They are a Google partner and the one here in town is very knowledgeable.
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Haha that's awesome. That's actually quite useful information though I really appreciate that! I will try out those, I'm actually not running much aside from stock but I'll see what happens. Thanks again!

Gravol said:
Will try that not before heading out for work, I just can tell by a few small features on the device that its not spring chicken so my assumption is its at least a year plus old.
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So after literally download and flashing that kernel, typing just this edit using my phone I'm down 3%. Maybe it takes a bit to optimize I'm not really sure. I will say it does at least last me an entire day! (On the Stock kernel I mean)
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The battery life on the Pixel 2 XL should be better than that to be honest. Especially if you have Android Pie. Let me know how it goes? What is your SOT?

dieselhazza said:
The battery life on the Pixel 2 XL should be better than that to be honest. Especially if you have Android Pie. Let me know how it goes? What is your SOT?
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1 hour 35 minutes so far and down to 73%

Gravol said:
1 hour 35 minutes so far and down to 73%
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On my Pixel 2 XL i get about 2.5 hrs SOT with 70% remaining.

Heres a screenshot I guess that's not awful it's just seems like heavy drain when using it. I think I'm just being picky

I have replaced my 2xl display because it was shattered. I tried to replicate the original waterproofing sealing by using the black liquid adhesive.

That looks just about right. Both "full charge lasts about" and the SOT. At least that's what I get typically with my use.
Gravol said:
Heres a screenshot I guess that's not awful it's just seems like heavy drain when using it. I think I'm just being picky
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Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

General One UI 5.1 Update

Just received the 5.1 update on US unlocked S21FE. Still exploring changes.

There's been reports of the 5.1 update causing issues on other Samsung devices.
If anyone experiences an issue on the S21 FE, please let us all know.

Bad battery life (8 hours to 6 hours)
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Not many changes thats all

MemurBey said:
Bad battery life (8 hours to 6 hours)
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My device's battery life was bad from the very beginning.

xda-eh said:
My device's battery life was bad from the very beginning.
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From the latest update my battery life went from 8 SOT to max 6 too.

Yeah, battery life has taken a hit with the 5.1 update. Doesn't inspire confidence throughout the day.

with CSC SEK still waiting for this battery massacre

Been with One UI 5.1 since approx 2 weeks, better battery life for me in idle, a bit less in use but nothing bad.
My speaker seems horrible, sound is not as loud as before and less clear, it's like old gen phone. Or it's just me. But nothing has changed significantly in this release.

Sound quality has gone bonkers. Can't hear anything after update. Speakers are useless now.

harshv0905 said:
Sound quality has gone bonkers. Can't hear anything after update. Speakers are useless now.
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If you want a parch issued for that, your best bet is to report the problem in the Samsung members app.