UK Exynos SoC - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion

Hi all
I just realised that my Samsung UK Note 10+ is not using Snapdragon 855 but the Exynos 9825. I thought the Exynos CPU is only available in Canada and the far east.
I have to say, if I knew that Samsung were selling the Exynos edition on their website I wouldn't have ordered it. I'm afraid to ask if I'm missing anything as I was under the impression that the Exynos are inferior to the Snapdragon CPUs.

Exynos is the European chip.
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Snapdragons are mainly gor USA, Canada and Hong Kong, because of some country/carrier regulations, the rest of the world use exynos, which are somewhat "inferior" in some areas, not all, mainly batt usage, as for performance, side by side the difference is really little

winol said:
Snapdragons are mainly for USA, Canada, and Hong Kong, because of some country/carrier regulations, the rest of the world use exynos, which are somewhat "inferior" in some areas, not all, mainly batt usage, as for performance, side by side the difference is really little
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I believe it's the other way around in the best case. Battery usage is almost the same (They claim SD to have better standby drain, but I can't tell). While performance is way better on the SD, especially in gaming where the Adrino graphics processor performs much better than the Mali.

What's wrong with the Exynos variants ?
I'm in the UK and my S8+ / Note 9 where both Exynos and there was absolutely no perceivable difference after years of using a SD powered device.
Frankly not getting a device because of the processor difference between SD / Exy is just pure arrogance / stupidity.
Both vairents are Rootable so people can't even argue that anymore.

I agree with you, exynos variants are indeed excellent, SD versions may be slightly better, but not as to despise Exynos ones

hutzdani said:
What's wrong with the Exynos variants ?
I'm in the UK and my S8+ / Note 9 where both Exynos and there was absolutely no perceivable difference after years of using a SD powered device.
Frankly not getting a device because of the processor difference between SD / Exy is just pure arrogance / stupidity.
Both vairents are Rootable so people can't even argue that anymore.
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Battery drain on the Exynos variant is a fact. I have both versions of the phone and with SD I have far better cellular reception and WiFi and less to non battery drain on standby.
I live in London.
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geovass said:
Battery drain on the Exynos variant is a fact. I have both versions of the phone and with SD I have far better cellular reception and WiFi and less to non battery drain on standby.
I live in London.
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Can I ask if the SD Note 10+ gets OTA updates in the UK and (at least) Google Pay works?
There are some reasonably priced handsets on eBay, mostly from Switzerland that look quite attractive (4G variants),
TIA

mzm70 said:
Can I ask if the SD Note 10+ gets OTA updates in the UK and (at least) Google Pay works?
There are some reasonably priced handsets on eBay, mostly from Switzerland that look quite attractive (4G variants),
TIA
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Yes and yes!
I got it from an eBay seller - shipped from Swiss
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Which LTE model use snapdragon

i bought this table Galaxy Tab S 10.5 LTE SM-T805 16G 2 days a go iam confuse becuase i read spcification of this tablet over the net all of them says WIFI SM-T800 and 3G SM-T801 use exynos 8 core and LTEs model use snap but my lte tablet use exynos
in general how many models can be found for this tablet ((TAB S 10.5))
alpha_330 said:
i bought this table Galaxy Tab S 10.5 LTE SM-T805 16G 2 days a go iam confuse becuase i read spcification of this tablet over the net all of them says WIFI SM-T800 and 3G SM-T801 use exynos 8 core and LTEs model use snap but my lte tablet use exynos
in general how many models can be found for this tablet ((TAB S 10.5))
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As far as my understanding goes, all S models are Exynos for now.
Pro line is Snapdragon.
I think only certain US Carriers use the Snapdragon chip Tab S LTE.
this chipset exynos 5420 is 3g in general no 4g lte .this is new 5420 with lte included or lte has dedicated chipset ?
becuase my note 3 n900 exynos 5420 support only 3g freq. but 5420 in this tablet support 4g let
if use another chipset just for lte power consumption is too much more than 3g
as i know, the tab S model use intel chip to support 4g
I have not (yet) read on any Samsung site of any Tab S using Snapdragon. To avoid any future confusion, I suggest to forget the other sites, and go straight to the source themselves (Samsung) .....
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I have not (yet) read on any Samsung site of any Tab S using Snapdragon. To avoid any future confusion, I suggest to forget the other sites, and go straight to the source themselves (Samsung) .....
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I wish the moderators would fix this forum. It lists the Snapdragon 800 SoC in the tech spec details(above the individual forums)
Enddo said:
I wish the moderators would fix this forum. It lists the Snapdragon 800 SoC in the tech spec details(above the individual forums)
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Maybe they are oblivious to it and need to be informed. You could contact them and ask.
Gsmarena is one of these sites
The mods know about the Snapdragon issue. Because Snapdragon is offered in some limited markets they say it should remain. I don't agree as the vast majority of these devices are Exynos. It is misleading but they won't change it.
mitchellvii said:
The mods know about the Snapdragon issue. Because Snapdragon is offered in some limited markets they say it should remain. I don't agree as the vast majority of these devices are Exynos. It is misleading but they won't change it.
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I could only suggest that they need to " amend " the description, not " omit ". Just add Exynos to it, that's all. Or go the " hard " way and have separate forums same as other devices .... End of confusion
I thought AT&T were getting the snapdragon LTE models. May be wrong though.
sycotik said:
I thought AT&T were getting the snapdragon LTE models. May be wrong though.
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I wish there was a US model that had a snapdragon, I've been looking all over for one to no avail.
mitchellvii said:
The mods know about the Snapdragon issue. Because Snapdragon is offered in some limited markets they say it should remain. I don't agree as the vast majority of these devices are Exynos. It is misleading but they won't change it.
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Samsung.com doesn't list any Qualcomm specs for the T700/T705/T800, says they're all Exynos™ 5 Octa (1.9Ghz Quadcore + 1.3 Ghz Quadcore).
The only possible Tab S with a Snapdragon is the T805.
Does anybody on this forum have a Snapdragon Tab S?
brad1825 said:
I wish there was a US model that had a snapdragon, I've been looking all over for one to no avail.
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I just ordered the Sprint variant of the Tab S 10.5 (SPHT807TAB) yesterday, and it uses the Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974). Unsure if the other carriers have/will release it.
scheelwd said:
I just ordered the Sprint variant of the Tab S 10.5 (SPHT807TAB) yesterday, and it uses the Snapdragon 800 (MSM8974). Unsure if the other carriers have/will release it.
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So the T807 is the Snapdragon model.
How's the performance?
kenkiller said:
So the T807 is the Snapdragon model.
How's the performance?
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It shipped out today, so I most likely won't know until Monday or Tuesday. But I'd imagine the performance will be just like my Note 3 since it's the same SoC and memory.
scheelwd said:
It shipped out today, so I most likely won't know until Monday or Tuesday. But I'd imagine the performance will be just like my Note 3 since it's the same SoC and memory.
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Yes, please keep us informed.
I picked up the WIFI version a few days ago after seeing it posted here that BB was discounting the 32GB. I am not noticing any significant lags other than within certain apps that I have also noticed it my Note 8. I would be torn over which to choose, the Snapdragon/Sprint or the 32GB version.
Incidentally, if you chose the the monthly option @ $27 (total $650) , did it also include the cellular plan for 2 years or was that additional? (Update:Never mind, found the answer on the Sprint website)
My Tab S from sprint will be here shortly. I will post back about its performance. I am trying to find out if there is a root method that works for this model.
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So far, even with the crap-bloatware Samsung/Sprint like to pile on, and the memory-monster-TouchWiz; this tablet is performing quite well. The Snapdragon definitely makes up for all of the aforementioned annoyances. Certainly more responsive and 'snappy' than the Exynos variant that I've messed around with. I can't wait to see how fast this is going to be running once we have root and custom kernels.
I do find it odd that they went back to the old USB 2.0 port vs the duel 3.0 port though; I get great charge times with my Note 3 using that.

Experiences in buying Snapdragon variant in EU

Hello,
I wonder if anyone have experience in buying Galaxy with Snapdragon inside the EU?
I just saw Galaxy S10 Snapdragon variand is WAY better than Exynos in leaked AnTuTu benchmarks and its also 7nm instead of Exynos 8nm...Bad..
So I'm planning on trying to get Snapdragon in Europe...
Any suggestions?
Thank you
Exactly what I'm looking for. Actually I have Galaxy S9 Exynos in Europe and all it's working really fine, really. But sometimes I think the phone could run a bit faster with many apps, like my Sony XZ2 Compact did with Snapdragon 845, so I know Snapdragon version is faster for S9 and I would move to that one.
Can someone tell me if there are any issue having a Snapdragon variant in Europe? As for the mobile network I want know if it will be compatible, because actually S9 Exynos is the best phone I had for network reception.
CrazyCypher said:
Hello,
I wonder if anyone have experience in buying Galaxy with Snapdragon inside the EU?
I just saw Galaxy S10 Snapdragon variand is WAY better than Exynos in leaked AnTuTu benchmarks and its also 7nm instead of Exynos 8nm...Bad..
So I'm planning on trying to get Snapdragon in Europe...
Any suggestions?
Thank you
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Buying a phone just for benchmark scores is probably the dumbest thing you can do. No offense, but they mean absolutely nothing and don't simulate real world usage in any way. It's merely a bragging point for OEMs. Besides, basing your decision on scores for a phone that hasn't even been announced yet is an equally bad idea.
Buying a Snapdragon Samsung device would come with these disadvantages:
-Slower updates
-No VoLTE
-No WiFi calling
-No 4G+/LTE-A (depends on region and carrier)
-No Samsung Pay
-No warranty or after sales support in your country
If you want to play games, especially demanding games, stay away from Eyxnos 8920. It comes with a Mali G76 which is as powerful as the 2 years ago's Adreno 530, (Snapdragon 820).
The US version of the Galaxy s10 series comes with the Snapdragon 855 7nm chipset with an Adreno 640 GPU. Thats why Snapdragon is destroying Exynos in all those benchmarks.
So unless you refuse to live in the 2000s and use your phone only to... "call people", follow the benchmarks, and stay away from Samsung EU.
Any experience with VOLTE and LTE Bands Carrier Aggregation using Snapdragon version in EU?

Which version should I get snapdragon or exynos?

I have the option to choose between the snapdragon or exynos version. The snapdragon may bring better perfomance and battery but the exynos version can be root. Which one do you guys think I should get?
If you ask, wou will get a mixed bag of answers, it would be a better idea to read as much as you can in the questions and aswers and real life review sections, then you can formulate your own opinion, my honest answer is, get a device intended for your country that also has a full warranty provided, that is what I would consider above anything else
Snapdragon duos is the real answer. Unlocked and Snapdragon optimized
you asked and answered. If you're Looking for better Performance go for the SD, if you're Looking for the ability to Flash new roms go for the Exynos. I've Always had the exynos Version of the note devices I owned and was Always satisfied with their Performance. I didn't compare them with the SD versions but online Videos Show clearly who's the boss in Terms of Performance.
I have both: Note 10 exynos & Note 10 Snapdragon.
I have used both. I prefer the snapdragon as it is faster than the exynos.
As far as custom roms, once you install twrp and get it rooted, it is no different than exynos.
With one exception: If you use WETA_Rom_4.0 by By Mentalmuso for snapdragon, then you do not need to use keypresses to activate root on power up or reboot. Just turn on your phone, let it boot and you have root.
gcrutchr said:
If you use WETA_Rom_4.0 by By Mentalmuso for snapdragon, then you do not need to use keypresses to activate root on power up or reboot. Just turn on your phone, let it boot and you have root.
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Same with nemesis kernel for exynos, no button combo needed.
The Exynos has better single core performance than the SD variant. If you want to unlock your bootloader and flash custom ROMs - Exynos. If you want better performance - SD. Whichever one you get, you're going to be getting top tier performance regardless of the SoC.
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If you play games like I do, get the snapdragon variant. I am having fps drops on my exynos version.
Yes,exynos is pathetic in terms of gaming. Just after 10 mins of Pes 2020 on high graphics it stutters heavily.
I also have them both. SD has far better standby optimization meaning better battery life and better cellular/WiFi module.
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So would the ultimate to get is the 9750 snap dragon phone on Verizon network and you can also root it. Only thing you can't have is 5G correct? Or is there any other way to get a snap dragon phone and root and 5G on Verizon network?
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I don't think/know if its compatible at all with Verizon much less Verizon 5g but there is a hong kong Snapdragon with 5g, and possibly dual sim also.....i think its only available in 512gb and i think they're almost impossible to find listed for purchase.
However without going for a 5g phone once again I'm not sure how compatible (band wise) with Verizon the 9750 would be for you....tmobile doesn't block services from exterior carrier phones (awesome) i get the feeling Verizon does.
That would apply to wifi calling, video calling etc...
stalls said:
So would the ultimate to get is the 9750 snap dragon phone on Verizon network and you can also root it. Only thing you can't have is 5G correct? Or is there any other way to get a snap dragon phone and root and 5G on Verizon network?
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If you're on Verizon you're kind of screwed if you want root as Verizon locks down what phones you can use. This is why I left Verizon about twelve years ago and I'll never go back. If you really want root I would switch carriers to T-Mobile or AT&T.
louforgiveno said:
I don't think/know if its compatible at all with Verizon much less Verizon 5g but there is a hong kong Snapdragon with 5g, and possibly dual sim also.....i think its only available in 512gb and i think they're almost impossible to find listed for purchase.
However without going for a 5g phone once again I'm not sure how compatible (band wise) with Verizon the 9750 would be for you....tmobile doesn't block services from exterior carrier phones (awesome) i get the feeling Verizon does.
That would apply to wifi calling, video calling etc...
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What model is this 10+ 5G from Hong Kong?
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stalls said:
What model is this 10+ 5G from Hong Kong?
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Sorry, I'm not 100% sure...but along the lines of 9760 or something
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speedyjay said:
The Exynos has better single core performance than the SD variant. If you want to unlock your bootloader and flash custom ROMs - Exynos. If you want better performance - SD. Whichever one you get, you're going to be getting top tier performance regardless of the SoC.
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Hands down, the BEST answer you'll ever get in here! This man speaks the truth

5G or no 5G is the question on Note 10+

Greetings all,
I have a TMO Note 10+ and got it when they came out. My question is does my phone support 5G? I would hope so since I bought it when it was released. The model number is SM-N975U. I just got the upgrade (last night) to UI2 and Android 10, however I have no idea if this upgraded my phone to 5G. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
BH
Not entirely sure how it works over there but the Note10+ with 5G over here in the UK is SM-N976B and is specifically called "Galaxy Note10+ 5G" in About phone.
Edit: SM-N975U is not a 5G device but again not sure exactly how it works in the US with differing standards of 5G.
No unfortunately, 5G requires newer modern and thus there's a newest version of Note 10+ that's called Note 10+ 5G that you need to buy directly from T-mobile
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No yet!
chargedbird said:
Greetings all,
I have a TMO Note 10+ and got it when they came out. My question is does my phone support 5G? I would hope so since I bought it when it was released. The model number is SM-N975U. I just got the upgrade (last night) to UI2 and Android 10, however I have no idea if this upgraded my phone to 5G. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
BH
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Wish it did (bought mine soon after it came out), but the Note 10+ (the SM-N975U) we have doesn't have the 5G hardware in it.
unless you specifically bought the 5G variant there is no way to get it as it is different hardware. it's the same reason in the UK the 4G model is dual SIM while the 5G is a single SIM as the 5G model includes a single 5G modem while the 4G model caries 2 of the much cheaper 4G modems.
it's why I made sure when I purchased to phone at launch to get the 5G variant as there is no software way to upgrade from 4G to 5G, the 5G variant could get on 5G from the day of launch the problem was finding a supplier and a mast that actually supported 5G, but the last couple of months at least in the UK coverage has improved and seems to be accelerating with more firms and towers expected to make announcements January.
The 5G Variant of the Note Plus is N976U - and from what I can see, the specs are the same as on the Note 10 Plus with the exception of the 5G capability.
Something interesting - I ran antutu benchmarks on a N975U (highest score was 475,000) and a N976U (highest score was 496,000) and I am curious why there was such a big score difference between the two phones - they are nearly identical in specs. Shouldn't their scores be closer?
The only other difference I can see is that the N975U was built in Vietnam and the N976U was built in Korea.
N976b my model 5g version from ee uk have android 10 also phone was built in korea
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Sorry Vietnam phone was made 17.9.2019 was made
If you wanted the 5g version of the phone you should have purchased the 5g version. They have been pretty clearly marked when you purchase them. Perhaps you can exchange your 4g for 5g if you are still within your return window.
855+
Geekser said:
The 5G Variant of the Note Plus is N976U - and from what I can see, the specs are the same as on the Note 10 Plus with the exception of the 5G capability.
Something interesting - I ran antutu benchmarks on a N975U (highest score was 475,000) and a N976U (highest score was 496,000) and I am curious why there was such a big score difference between the two phones - they are nearly identical in specs. Shouldn't their scores be closer?
The only other difference I can see is that the N975U was built in Vietnam and the N976U was built in Korea.
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The N976U for AT&T and T-mobile has the SD855+ that’s why the scores are higher than the non 5g note..
Actually no, Note 10 5G T-mobile has a regular 855 and not 855+
One plus McLaren has 855+
EDIT: It does have 855+ as pointed out below by @billyblonco2
Actually it does have the SD855+. It’s as simple as downloading CPU-z or a similar app and compare the CPU and GPU speeds to the non 5g version and u will have your answer right in front of you.
billyblonco2 said:
Actually it does have the SD855+. It’s as simple as downloading CPU-z or a similar app and compare the CPU and GPU speeds to the non 5g version and u will have your answer right in front of you.
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I stand corrected, thanks. On the spec page on T-mobile's site, it lists the processor as SM8150(SKU for regular 855) and not SM8150-AC which is the SKU for 855+ which made me think it has 855. MKBHD guy also thought One plus came with faster processor. https://youtu.be/nmnTAOU44SI?t=94
billyblonco2 said:
Actually it does have the SD855+. It’s as simple as downloading CPU-z or a similar app and compare the CPU and GPU speeds to the non 5g version and u will have your answer right in front of you.
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While it is hard to disprove when you apparently have evidence in your hand, I cannot see a single other place on the internet that references the Note 10+ 5G getting the 855+.
It would be interesting to see what's on the hardware tab in the Samsung phone info app.
Edit: Nice man, that's quite the device. Best SOC in the best handset.
Qualcomm didn't waste time differentiating overclocked hardware names on the chips. Even other 855+ phones don't say 855+ in cpu and hardware apps.
Samsung and the carriers don't want to upset people who bought the non 5g and advertise the 5g versions have overclocked chipsets .
I'm sure there's a good reason they didn't call it the 855+ but I'm doubtful it's so other customers aren't upset.

Which S20? Europe/exynos or HK/Snapdragon?

I live in Greece. Based on all I've read, the exynos S20 isn't as good as the snapdragon version for battery (my #1 issue), general performance, and graphics. I can get a pretty decent price on the HK one. It supports all the bands Vodafone-Greece uses, and it comes with 12gb ram (instead of 8gb) and some 5G ability. 5G won't exist here for a while, so that's unimportant to me. Normally, the no-brainer answer is to buy the HK S20, but I am already aware that Samsung Greece will not honor the warranty because it's from a non-EU region (thought I think there is a recent EU law that says they must). So, a couple of questions before I make a purchase:
- What won't work in Europe, like VOLTE?
- Will I get the normal OTA updates (Android 11 and security patches) or will I have to download and install the firmwares updates myself
corvus.corax said:
I live in Greece. Based on all I've read, the exynos S20 isn't as good as the snapdragon version for battery (my #1 issue), general performance, and graphics. I can get a pretty decent price on the HK one. It supports all the bands Vodafone-Greece uses, and it comes with 12gb ram (instead of 8gb) and some 5G ability. 5G won't exist here for a while, so that's unimportant to me. Normally, the no-brainer answer is to buy the HK S20, but I am already aware that Samsung Greece will not honor the warranty because it's from a non-EU region (thought I think there is a recent EU law that says they must). So, a couple of questions before I make a purchase:
- What won't work in Europe, like VOLTE?
- Will I get the normal OTA updates (Android 11 and security patches) or will I have to download and install the firmwares updates myself
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Whether or not you'll get VoLTE, WiFi Calling depends on the carrier. In some cases CSR's for Carrier Branded devices will say none of their features will work as they want potential customer's to purchase their device but that's not always the case. You won't know for certain until you test your device on their network. If the service provider's features are a priority then your best option is aquire their smartphone, you'll know they'll work. If you buy their Exynos device and it overheats or has fast battery drain you can return it under warranty for replacement or a refund. As much as we read about Exynos pitfalls there are many users who are pleased with the performance and have no issues. A lot of concerns come from users who put heavy workloads on their processers like gaming so it depends on your individual usage. I decided on the HK variant because most carrier features I can live without and I enjoy gaming. VoLTE and WiFi Calling features work on my T-Mobile's network, I also have access to Samsung Pay. Be aware you can't flash your service provider's firmware on a Snapdragon variant. You likely won't have some Carrier Aggeration like fast download speeds. You will get OTA Updates since they're distributed by Samsung, not your service provider.
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. Here in Greece, Vodafone doesn't currently support VOLTE or WiFi calling. I haven't used Samsung Pay up till now, but my bank doesn't support it, only Apple Pay & Google Pay, so not a big inconvenience. As to carrier aggregation, do you know why that wouldn't be fully supported and does your remark apply to 4G or just 5G? Does it have to do with the particular chipset & modem?
After all updates on Exynos, it performs great. No heating uo and battery life improved a lot.
djoxie said:
After all updates on Exynos, it performs great. No heating uo and battery life improved a lot.
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Same experience here (s20+ exynos variant) i wouldnt risk buying from grey market as you may get unit with poor oled uniformity and then be stuck with it
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After all updates on Exynos, it performs great. No heating uo and battery life improved a lot.
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That's good to know.

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