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Hey everyone. Simple questions. First, is the Pixel XL worth upgrading to from the Nexus 6P with the RMA that is being done right now? Second, where is all the development? Was the Pixel XL tough to begin development for or did not many devs take to it? I run RR now but used PN before it for a while (amongst others). I see PN exists here too but not a lot of other ROMs, unless I'm missing them.
Anyway, the short of it is this. Is it worth taking the upgrade instead of a refurbished and is there enough active development for someone that enjoys flashing and trying things?
Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
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It's an expensive device. That's one barrier for active development.
The new a/b update. That's another problem.
Take the upgrade. Sell it, buy something else. Like the oneplus
wgrant said:
Hey everyone. Simple questions. First, is the Pixel XL worth upgrading to from the Nexus 6P with the RMA that is being done right now? Second, where is all the development? Was the Pixel XL tough to begin development for or did not many devs take to it? I run RR now but used PN before it for a while (amongst others). I see PN exists here too but not a lot of other ROMs, unless I'm missing them.
Anyway, the short of it is this. Is it worth taking the upgrade instead of a refurbished and is there enough active development for someone that enjoys flashing and trying things?
Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
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Definitely a matter of opinion and preference. I know the seemingly lack of development is in part because a lot of teams I assume are either working on an Oreo rebase or waiting for the Pixel 2 perhaps? The other reason is the dual-partitions / A-B slots which is why there's been issues with TWRP and GAPPS I believe. It does seem like there's a lot of the same ROMs available as the 6P, just 7.1.2 instead of 8.0.
just got my replacement Pixel XL last week and I had run RR on my 6P for the longest time, but shortly before returning it I had been using Oreo with just a handful of mods, so switching to the XL and doing the same wasn't too drastic a change. The screen being smaller is hardly noticeable to me. The dual front-facing speakers are missed, but the phone being way more responsive and smooth is a fair trade off for me since I didn't listen to music too often through the speakers.
If you do like to hop around from ROM to ROM a lot this phone might leave a little to be desired, but if you plan on just using Oreo with some mods (check out the themes and apps section, I'm using the Aroma installer mods by Tulsadiver) then you will probably be content. Honestly, I plan on trying to sell it on Swappa shortly after the Pixel 2 XL comes out so I wasn't too worried about the amount of ROM choices and was glad to get the free upgrade even if just for a month or two till I get the Pixel 2 XL.
I'd take the RMA if for no other reason than the Pixel is a far superior device. If you really have a need to constantly flash and try things then it may not be the best device for you. If you want the best experience Android has to offer out of the box, then look no further than the Pixel.
I certainly don't HAVE to jump from ROM to ROM but the option from time to time would be nice. I have been interested in Oreo but haven't tried it yet on 6P. Is rooting difficult for the Pixel XL? I haven't heard about the A/B slot thing, I'll have to do more research tomorrow. Thanks guys!
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I certainly don't HAVE to jump from ROM to ROM but the option from time to time would be nice. I have been interested in Oreo but haven't tried it yet on 6P. Is rooting difficult for the Pixel XL? I haven't heard about the A/B slot thing, I'll have to do more research tomorrow. Thanks guys!
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I'm sure here soon there will be more ROM options once everyone gets Oreo up and running and gets the kinks worked out. And rooting and unlocking isn't really difficult, but a different experience from the 6P that's for sure. One downside to Oreo right now is that there's no officially supported TWRP aside from a bootable version you have to use fastboot / bootloader to get into it. So depending on how often you're around a computer, that may or may not be an issue. Supposedly some people have the RC1 or RC2 versions of TWRP working so you don't need the PC, but it takes 10-15+ minutes for it to reboot into recovery. Haven't tried for myself though.
if you already havent done it, your too late https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...ds-out-of-warranty-nexus-6p-replacements.html
Luckily i got my RMA last week
TheAtheistOtaku said:
if you already havent done it, your too late https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...ds-out-of-warranty-nexus-6p-replacements.html
Luckily i got my RMA last week
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Well that's just if you're out of warranty they direct you to Huawei (brick wall) so that they can hang up on you
Does that also count for Project Fi customers? You would think they would want to make them happy.
I was lucky. I got my RMA in last Friday and got my Pixel XL 128g phone today. Totally worth it. No more battery issues and it just looks better.
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Does that also count for Project Fi customers? You would think they would want to make them happy.
I was lucky. I got my RMA in last Friday and got my Pixel XL 128g phone today. Totally worth it. No more battery issues and it just looks better.
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Pretty sure it's everyone out of the warranty period whether you got it from the Google store or Fi. I got mine last week, contacted them Sun night, and since I still was within the warranty (bought it Nov 2016) and had Nexus Protect on the device it was next day shipping and didn't even have to pay the deductible. I do miss the 6P, but the Pixel is smooth as silk. :good:
I've already been approved for the replacement with a 128GB black Pixel XL, I just haven't processed the order yet. Coming up with the 870 to put on hold is the tough part. I'm pretty sure the replacements stopped for out of warranty units too, not ones still covered. The rep tools me they have almost no refurbished units to use as replacements. I think I might pull the trigger and do the replacement to avoid complete failure on the 6P. It's a shame because I LOVE the 6P.
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It's so much better I'm not going to bother getting the note 8 or the v30. Makes the 6p seem older than it was. The SD 810 really was a dog. Better photos, which is nuts, much better battery life, all the little parts of the pixel experience, better build quality. Holding out to see what the s9 brings to the table
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I appreciate all the input everyone, thank you. Now to find a way to put 870+ on hold for a while lol. That's the real dilemma.
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wgrant said:
I appreciate all the input everyone, thank you. Now to find a way to put 870+ on hold for a while lol. That's the real dilemma.
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Do you have a credit card? I contacted Google two days ago due to my 6p battery turning into a potato. They hooked me up with a pixel XL which is on the way.
I used my credit card to put the 800 dollar hold on.
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Do you have a credit card? I contacted Google two days ago due to my 6p battery turning into a potato. They hooked me up with a pixel XL which is on the way.
I used my credit card to put the 800 dollar hold on.
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I have one but not with the available balance needed. I wish I could figure out a way but it looks like I'm gonna miss the opportunity to replace my phone at this point.
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I have one but not with the available balance needed. I wish I could figure out a way but it looks like I'm gonna miss the opportunity to replace my phone at this point.
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Ask them if you can send your phone first.
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murso74 said:
Ask them if you can send your phone first.
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That's a good idea. Have them email you the shipping label and ask if you can ship your phone first to avoid the hold charge (assuming you're able to be without a cell phone for a few days.)
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That's a good idea. Have them email you the shipping label and ask if you can ship your phone first to avoid the hold charge (assuming you're able to be without a cell phone for a few days.)
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He can print the shipping label, that's how they do the exchange anyway. Google's pretty good at working with people. Tell them your problem. Worst thing that happens is that you're out a phone for a few days
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Pain-N-Panic said:
That's a good idea. Have them email you the shipping label and ask if you can ship your phone first to avoid the hold charge (assuming you're able to be without a cell phone for a few days.)
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Tried that and they won't. Talked to 2 different reps too. I have my old note 4 I can fall back on for a few days while I wait if I can get them to do it that way. I'll try again tomorrow.
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TheAtheistOtaku said:
if you already havent done it, your too late https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...ds-out-of-warranty-nexus-6p-replacements.html
Luckily i got my RMA last week
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No, that's just one guy on Reddit who was told no over chat. I used the telephone support on Sunday because my Nexus 6P went into bootloop and they had to "ask the next level support" if they could "give me a warranty exception" but I shipped my Nexus 6P 64 out Sunday and my Pixel XL 128 will be here tomorrow. There were a few others in the Reddit thread who also successfully got a replacement after this supposed "ending" of RMAs.
Did you receive your XL phone and now plan to return it after playing around with it? If so, for what reason (s)?
Thanks.
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Did you receive your XL phone and now plan to return it after playing around with it? If so, for what reason (s)?
Thanks.
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Just go ahead and cancel your order if you are worried. There are many posts to read to give you an idea. Read on op.
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Did you receive your XL phone and now plan to return it after playing around with it? If so, for what reason (s)?
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nope, fantastic device.
I think I will be. Forcing myself to use it until tomorrow or a few more days...then decide between keeping this or my V30. Heavily leaning toward V30 right now.
I'm not sure yet, will use for a week and then decide. I really like the phone, but get the off axis blue screen quite a bit.
I'm not sure if mine is worse than normal or similar to other units.
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I am giving myself until Friday. If Google doesn't release an update to fix these software glitches, it is going back.
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I think I will be. Forcing myself to use it until tomorrow or a few more days...then decide between keeping this or my V30. Heavily leaning toward V30 right now.
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Why the v30 over the xl2?
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everyone. you got 15 days to return it. if it passed 15 days it can't be refunded. just a reminder. and applicable only on google store purchases... i know most of you already know it but just wanna remind everyone again for that... thank you so much...
I will be returning my verizon variant pixel 2 xl due to the bootloader being locked. I may buy it from google store after doing more review reading. Overall it seems like a great phone for using it a few days.
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nope, fantastic device.
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Completely agree
I'm also in the "nope, not returning it" group. I really like my 2 XL and my screen is just fine for my eyes.
I impulse purchased the device at Verizon the other night. I have the Note8 but wanted the Pixel2 as a replacement for my Nexus 6P whuch gets used for kernel hacking & ROM development. Having learned that the Verizon won't be unlocking the bootloader was a deal breaker for me. Mine is going back.
After seeing the screen and playing with the device I'm not interested in ordering the unlocked sku directly from Google. I'm unsure what to buy for a new dev device at this point.
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It's not what I hoped it would be, bought Verizon one hoping like last year I could unlock bootloader. Gonna return and go with one plus 5t most likely. Gonna test drive v30 also.
People returning the Verizon variant phone because they couldn't unlock the bootloader!? Really? At this point, that is old news about Verizon phones. If that's what you care about, that is a scenario in which you wait to see if anyone figures out unlocking the bootloader before you buy. Secondly, I bought the unlocked variant from Google knowing full well that it'll be a while probably before we get things like root and twrp. Not trying to bash on anyone, but c'mon. Y'all should know better.
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Nope
Does anyone know if Google provides a free shipping label for a return?
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Does anyone know if Google provides a free shipping label for a return?
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You'll get an email with a printable return label.
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Why the v30 over the xl2?
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See my post here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74247798&postcount=142
capsnbottles said:
It's not what I hoped it would be, bought Verizon one hoping like last year I could unlock bootloader. Gonna return and go with one plus 5t most likely. Gonna test drive v30 also.
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Does the 5t even work on Verizon?
It's a phenomenally fluid device and killer battery life, but I really can't get used the display which is so essential, so returning it.
my dumbass screwed up and purchased the verizon one by accident. and was wondering if anyone has heard or seen the bootloader unlocked anywhere. ive googled but keep getting pixel 1 threads
Nope.
Return it for refund, then order a non VZW version.
Ah. The tragic tales continue. Return it.
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Ah. The tragic tales continue. Return it.
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ya looks like thats the plan. re ordering today. using my note 8 in the mean time i guess.....
Guess no one is buying from verizon since they cut the price down by 50%.....lol
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Guess no one is buying from verizon since they cut the price down by 50%.....lol
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They could not give me me one free of charge (if I had to keep it for my DD.) If I can't unlock the bootloader, I don't want it. But that's just me and a bunch of other people. YMMV.
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ya looks like thats the plan. re ordering today. using my note 8 in the mean time i guess.....
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How did you like it in comparison to the note 8? I currently have the note (despite always being a nexus guy and a Samsung hater) and I love it. But still tempted by the pixel.
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They could not give me me one free of charge (if I had to keep it for my DD.) If I can't unlock the bootloader, I don't want it. But that's just me and a bunch of other people. YMMV.
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I really don't think you have much to worry about then. Personally, I'd take a dozen of them and give them out to everyone I know since no one I know even knows what a bootloader is, no less root.
I have a VZW Pixel locked bootloader and I have no regrets. I recently had to return the one I got for $240 over 2 years for a warranty replacement. They sent me another Verizon model but I could unlock it this time. Must have slipped thru the cracks. I did flip the switch but I won't unlock it until I no longer have it on a network at which point I'd play around with stuff and not worry about performance or soft bricks. I've found no real reason to unlock it while using it as my DD.
But as you say, that's just you and this is just me. Neither of us is right or wrong, it's just how we do things these days. I will not pay $650 just to have a device that I can bl unlock when I won't unlock it anyway. Under $300 and $360 for the 2 XL is a tremendous deal. Other than on XDA I doubt there are many who even care about bl at those prices. You won't get that from Google and maybe not even from Verizon this year. We'll see.
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Guess no one is buying from verizon since they cut the price down by 50%.....lol
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Not yet but hopefully soon.
My bet is there will never be a bootloader exploit for the VZW bootloader's. This time I went direct with Google.
I ordered a Pixel 2 XL from Verizon last night about 9:00pm and already have it in my hands and activated. I'm not one of those that has to have an unlockable bootloader either. I purchased from Verizon because it was 50% off by trading in my Verizon Moto Z Force. Lately I've switched camps from must have unlockable bootloader to don't want unlocked bootloader. I prefer to remain stock and take OTA's without issues. My past experiences have taught me that the stock software untampered with performs better and more reliably than any 3rd party ROM ever will. My only reason for unlocking to begin with was ad blocking and removing unwanted apps. You can block ads with "VPN Hosts" app on an unrooted phone and I don't feel the need to remove software any more. I just don't open what I don't use. I haven't tried to unlock the bootloader on this new phone but I suspect you cannot.
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How did you like it in comparison to the note 8? I currently have the note (despite always being a nexus guy and a Samsung hater) and I love it. But still tempted by the pixel.
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You just described me! I have both right now and honestly I think my pixel xl 2 is going back, never thought id be thinking like that
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You just described me! I have both right now and honestly I think my pixel xl 2 is going back, never thought id be thinking like that
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I know, the note is an amazing device. I keep thinking I'm nuts by sticking with it but it's kinda flawless.
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I know, the note is an amazing device. I keep thinking I'm nuts by sticking with it but it's kinda flawless.
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I use the pixel as a toy and to play around with roms. Ill probably save a few hundred bucks and buy the 5t this week, and use the note for my dd
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I use the pixel as a toy and to play around with roms. Ill probably save a few hundred bucks and buy the 5t this week, and use the note for my dd
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That's what I use my op3t for. I just went into a Verizon store and played with the pixel, took a few indoor shots and compared them. I'm no longer looking for a pixel.
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That's what I use my op3t for. I just went into a Verizon store and played with the pixel, took a few indoor shots and compared them. I'm no longer looking for a pixel.
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I've never owned a one plus, excited about the 5t. How are they?
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I've never owned a one plus, excited about the 5t. How are they?
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Very hit or miss. The quality control is poor. If had each except the five. Two of my kids still using my old ones and they are holding up well but it's a total lottery. That's been my experience with every model they have released.
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I ordered a Pixel 2 XL from Verizon last night about 9:00pm and already have it in my hands and activated. I'm not one of those that has to have an unlockable bootloader either. I purchased from Verizon because it was 50% off by trading in my Verizon Moto Z Force. Lately I've switched camps from must have unlockable bootloader to don't want unlocked bootloader. I prefer to remain stock and take OTA's without issues. My past experiences have taught me that the stock software untampered with performs better and more reliably than any 3rd party ROM ever will. My only reason for unlocking to begin with was ad blocking and removing unwanted apps. You can block ads with "VPN Hosts" app on an unrooted phone and I don't feel the need to remove software any more. I just don't open what I don't use. I haven't tried to unlock the bootloader on this new phone but I suspect you cannot.
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I'm strongly considering ordering one from VZW because of the current promotion. I had resided to keeping my Pixel XL, but now that I know I can take an old spare phone and get 50% of a new pixel 2 XL, I'm very tempted. I have a Pixel XL with an unlocked bootloader, but it's been unrooted for at least the last 8 months and I haven't otherwise taken advantage of the unlocked bootloader so I don't think I'd miss it. I love the stock ROM, the seamless update process, and decreased vulnerability.
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I'm strongly considering ordering one from VZW because of the current promotion. I had resided to keeping my Pixel XL, but now that I know I can take an old spare phone and get 50% of a new pixel 2 XL, I'm very tempted. I have a Pixel XL with an unlocked bootloader, but it's been unrooted for at least the last 8 months and I haven't otherwise taken advantage of the unlocked bootloader so I don't think I'd miss it. I love the stock ROM, the seamless update process, and decreased vulnerability.
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There is one thing about the Pixel 2 XL you need to be aware of. The screen colors are pale and not very vivid. As a result the display does not look as good as other phones. Do some research on that before you buy to make sure you can live with it. I'm ok with it but I'm sure others may not be.
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There is one thing about the Pixel 2 XL you need to be aware of. The screen colors are pale and not very vivid. As a result the display does not look as good as other phones. Do some research on that before you buy to make sure you can live with it. I'm ok with it but I'm sure others may not be.
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With saturated color mode, it definitely is not too pale. Actually, that mode is too saturated to me, but some people like it that way
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With saturated color mode, it definitely is not too pale. Actually, that mode is too saturated to me, but some people like it that way
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LOL I just got the update a few minutes ago.that's the first thing I tested. Saturated mode does improve the colors, at least in my opinion.
So I am reluctantly moving on from my Nexus 6 which I have loved and been rom-crazy with. I'm really bummed out how pricey phones have gotten, so looking for good value wherever I can. I'm looking to do the 2 XL from best buy, pretty good deal right now. My issue, and it's a big one, is that the VZW variant cannot have the bootloader unlocked (right??, man please tell me I'm wrong!), thus not root, ROM, etc. I've always loved Android for how customizable it is, but I'm worried if I got with this version I'll basically feel like I'm on a Google version of the IPhone. Is this the right way to look at it, or am I not giving a stock locked phone enough credit?
For anyone with this phone on VZW, I'd love to hear your thoughts on customizations, options that you undertake without root, if you miss root/Rom or if performance and stock are enough. Specifically, I like to be able to change color of UI/apps a la substratum, wireless tether, nav bar mods to name a few. Any locked options out there, any others I'd get without root?
Would love some experienced opinions.
You cannot unlock your bootloader. You are pretty limited with customizations. Like only Substratum with Andromeda. No ROMs, no kernels. I have read that you can sideload the P OTA. But that it's very risky and you pretty much can't go back. Go through the Google store and finance through there if you can't afford to pay for it entirely.
But I was saying in another thread that I am completely fine with this phone stock unrooted. I've when relocked my bootloader. I've had nothing but Samsung devices since their introduction. I have had better battery life and SOT than I have ever had on any phone by a long shot. I went back to my S8+ and couldn't stomach how laggy the Samsung experience is. In my opinion, you really can't go wrong with this phone. But if you're wanting to rom and customize, you'll be SOL with the Verizon version.
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You cannot unlock your bootloader. You are pretty limited with customizations. Like only Substratum with Andromeda. No ROMs, no kernels. I have read that you can sideload the P OTA. But that it's very risky and you pretty much can't go back. Go through the Google store and finance through there if you can't afford to pay for it entirely.
But I was saying in another thread that I am completely fine with this phone stock unrooted. I've when relocked my bootloader. I've had nothing but Samsung devices since their introduction. I have had better battery life and SOT than I have ever had on any phone by a long shot. I went back to my S8+ and couldn't stomach how laggy the Samsung experience is. In my opinion, you really can't go wrong with this phone. But if you're wanting to rom and customize, you'll be SOL with the Verizon version.
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Hey thx for the reply. You know back in the early days of Android, smoother experience was exactly why I got into unlocking; OC the processor, get rid of bloatware, etc. Obv that's not as much an issue, I wonder how much I'd miss the other customization. Good to hear there's at least some substratum.
I'm certainly worried about being locked into a phone with so few options relative to what I'm used to. But if it's a solid phone with no need for fixes that root/ROM provides that the manufacturer isn't providing, then I guess I'd be ok...right?
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Hey thx for the reply. You know back in the early days of Android, smoother experience was exactly why I got into unlocking; OC the processor, get rid of bloatware, etc. Obv that's not as much an issue, I wonder how much I'd miss the other customization. Good to hear there's at least some substratum.
I'm certainly worried about being locked into a phone with so few options relative to what I'm used to. But if it's a solid phone with no need for fixes that root/ROM provides that the manufacturer isn't providing, then I guess I'd be ok...right?
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Having run the P2XL fully stock for a month after I received it, I will say that you won't miss unlocking, rooting, and modding it that much. Sure, it's great to me able to do all that stuff of course, however, it certainly won't hinder the functionality and experience of the P2XL. I was completely satisfied just being able to theme it with substratum+Andromeda, and just use it as it was intended. After all, it's just a phone ???
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Hey thx for the reply. You know back in the early days of Android, smoother experience was exactly why I got into unlocking; OC the processor, get rid of bloatware, etc. Obv that's not as much an issue, I wonder how much I'd miss the other customization. Good to hear there's at least some substratum.
I'm certainly worried about being locked into a phone with so few options relative to what I'm used to. But if it's a solid phone with no need for fixes that root/ROM provides that the manufacturer isn't providing, then I guess I'd be ok...right?
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I would also like to mention that the dual partitions on these phones make doing backups, restoring, installing ROMs, kernels and all that comes with that kind of a drag. It most certainly isn't like the s1 through the s5 where the bootloader was unlocked and flashing and modding was much simpler. But on the other side. Android has come a long way. I rooted my first week and flaked everything I could. But I always found myself returning to stock because even the custom ROMs like DU or nitrogen OS left me missing something that they just weren't achieving from the stock pixel experience. I joined here in like 2012 and for once in my time using an Android phone, I'm actually content with the device as is. They're are others that use BusyBox, XPosed and or Magisk modules. I guess I'm just able to achieve what I'm looking for without root or unlocked bootloader just fine with what third party apps I use. But if you're a bit of a more easy going user, and have only flashed to flash and to get AOSP like experience with overclocking to achieve those conveted benchmark scores. That just isn't needed with this device right now. Not for me at least. Having the freedom to unlock is nice, especially if you plan to keep this device and the support stops. But in my opinion, you would be well suited even by the Verizon model. I just got the Google unlocked just in case. Anyway, I hope this helps. Good luck on your next purchase, if your decide to join the pixel family, welcome aboard. I know I'll never be going back.
Great, thanks for that. Yeah it seems the more and more I dig the less and less necessary a phone like this is for doing the unlocking rooting and rom that was needed for say, the HTC Eris my first unlocked device haha.
Okay, think I'm going to take the plunge. Looking forward to updating several months later on my experience. Best.
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Great, thanks for that. Yeah it seems the more and more I dig the less and less necessary a phone like this is for doing the unlocking rooting and rom that was needed for say, the HTC Eris my first unlocked device haha.
Okay, think I'm going to take the plunge. Looking forward to updating several months later on my experience. Best.
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might wanna check out.... https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...-via-google-store-financing-free-18w-charger/
I am using unlocked google store pixel on verizon why cant you just buy from google store with $200 off deal?
I'm in the same boat, I'm looking for a Pixel 2 XL. I keep looking for an exploit to pop up or a good deal on the Google variant. My reasons for wanting the unlocked bootloader are a little different. I'm looking for an unlocked bootloader so I can get rid of gapps and play services and run AOSP or copperhead.
The 200$ Google credit may have me pull the trigger before end of the month.
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I'm in the same boat, I'm looking for a Pixel 2 XL. I keep looking for an exploit to pop up or a good deal on the Google variant. My reasons for wanting the unlocked bootloader are a little different. I'm looking for an unlocked bootloader so I can get rid of gapps and play services and run AOSP or copperhead.
The 200$ Google credit may have me pull the trigger before end of the month.
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Not many for sale right now, but Swappa is a great place for Pixel 2 XL's, either VZN or preferably Unlocked.
I bought the Verizon P2XL from BB with the $400 off deal a few weeks ago. No regrets. I've found nohing that I'm missing from not having root. I do love tweaking and flashing ROMs but the experience on the Pixel is so good I'm not pining for it.
As far as tweaks, the only thing I'm really doing is running an immersion mode app to hide the navigation bar and Edge Gestures to enable swipe navigation. It works great.
One of the great things about having the Pixel (my last phone was they Moto Z2 Play) is the variety of cool cases available. I'm rotating between a cloth backed case from Incipio and a real wood case from Kerf Case. Both are fantastic.
Hope you enjoy your device!
With Verizon, you don't have to deal with that messy issue of ownership.
With Verizon, you have the privilege of paying for the device of your choice but never truly owning the device.
'Oh! Do you want to unlock this device? Sorry, we don't allow you to control your device'.
So I look at things a little differently. I think you may want to look at use case of your phone and your specific needs. Yes the performance of the phones have increased dramatically, so the need to strip bloatware to optimize storage and speed isn't really there. However, for me, I have 2 must have features, Hotspot tether and Viper4A... Those are deal-breakers for me, at least. I'm sure you'll get a lot of various opinions here. Typically what I've done in the past years is keep my nose to the grind here in XDA, and then wait for an bootloader unlock method on a VZW phone. I've had to wait a bit at times, but I've balanced my needs for a new phone (if my old one is under performing), and the ability to get into a 'newer' one with full customization's. If you're willing to wait sometimes you can save considerable $$$, otherwise you lose functionality or pay more for unlocked variants. Your call completely... for example I'm on the VZW Pixel2 as there is a small window to unlock the bootloader. This doesn't exist for the 2-XL though...sorry. Good Luck!!!
uicnren said:
might wanna check out.... https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...-via-google-store-financing-free-18w-charger/
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oneandroidnut said:
I am using unlocked google store pixel on verizon why cant you just buy from google store with $200 off deal?
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$200 off, and a 18w charger? Yeah, I'd buy the 2 XL again for that price!
Coming from the 6P I ran the 2 XL for about a month or so fully stock and was ALMOST happy to wait for cust roms.
I love this phone! It's light, it's fast. Dual front speakers. Great device, even locked.
Then I realized that I really like the flashing and modding process and ability to mess with my devices, and would miss that with a locked bootloader. I'm a simple guy, messing with phones makes me a happy, simple guy.
Could I live with a locked 2 XL? Yes. Would I want to? No.
If you can't or don't want to pay outright for the unlocked version, Google offers pretty much the same payment plan you'd get with VZW (my carrier also) so you'd pay $40/mo for 2 yrs 0% interest and you still get all the VZW services and goodies since this is a VZW offered device (unlike my 6P)..
Bottom line; could you live with the Nexus 6 another year? (heck I could probably live with my Note 3 running Alliance for another year) Probably.
But for $40 mo, and the ability to mess with, tweak, flash, root, and enjoy modding your device; do you WANT to stay on it another year?
Decisions, decisions...
I've had the phone since launch and I can honestly say I havent even looked at the ROM's being released because it is just that good. Like others have said, the battery life is just amazing on it and its just so buttery smooth still. I wouldnt hesitate to buy the VZW version knowing I cant unlock it.
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I've had the phone since launch and I can honestly say I havent even looked at the ROM's being released because it is just that good. Like others have said, the battery life is just amazing on it and its just so buttery smooth still. I wouldnt hesitate to buy the VZW version knowing I cant unlock it.
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I have been using a google one on verizon but havent unlocked or looked at roms either. It runs so smooth and I never think about battery. Im up at 7 am and go to bed at 10/11/midnight and never had it down under 15% unless its hours of streaming and it still lasts until I go to bed
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I am using unlocked google store pixel on verizon why cant you just buy from google store with $200 off deal?
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Yeah, I mean $650 definitely gets me closer, still don't love it. Can get $450 @ BBY vzw variant. Not sure if the $200 is worth the unlock, might be. Have some decisions to make.
ckfalls said:
Yeah, I mean $650 definitely gets me closer, still don't love it. Can get $450 @ BBY vzw variant. Not sure if the $200 is worth the unlock, might be. Have some decisions to make.
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If you don't plan on, or worried about rooting or modding, then save your dough and just get the Big Red version. The P2XL is still pretty darn good running full stock :good:
The Pixel 2 XL is such a great experience out of the box that I haven't had any desire to root, especially since substratum is now available for rootless phones via andromeda. FWIW, having an unlocked Pixel doesn't seem to provide many more options than a locked Pixel based on the current state of development for this phone.
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So I look at things a little differently. I think you may want to look at use case of your phone and your specific needs. Yes the performance of the phones have increased dramatically, so the need to strip bloatware to optimize storage and speed isn't really there. However, for me, I have 2 must have features, Hotspot tether and Viper4A... Those are deal-breakers for me, at least. I'm sure you'll get a lot of various opinions here. Typically what I've done in the past years is keep my nose to the grind here in XDA, and then wait for an bootloader unlock method on a VZW phone. I've had to wait a bit at times, but I've balanced my needs for a new phone (if my old one is under performing), and the ability to get into a 'newer' one with full customization's. If you're willing to wait sometimes you can save considerable $$$, otherwise you lose functionality or pay more for unlocked variants. Your call completely... for example I'm on the VZW Pixel2 as there is a small window to unlock the bootloader. This doesn't exist for the 2-XL though...sorry. Good Luck!!!
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Maybe it's plan specific, but I can tether just fine with my VZW Pixel 2 XL.
Thanks guys. Yeah I had no idea hotspot was included with my plan, used to not be that way but apparently it is, again another reason I don't need to root. Yeah I've heard Viper is the bomb, never looked into it but honestly I so rarely use the phone speakers, always on Bluetooth of some kind which always seems serviceable for me.
Got the vzw phone in, saved $200+, we'll see how it goes.
I'll say, this blue shift thing is no joke...jarringly noticeable. I'll check the IMEI, see if I can get a later build which I've heard had a better chance of less blue shift. Haven't taken it through it's paces yet so not sure if any of the other screen issues are present yet.
EDIT: Got the answers I needed, bought the phone, we're good! Thanks!
Hi guys and gals! I'm looking at upgrading from my Galaxy S8+ to a Pixel 2 XL. I admit, I used to be a Samsung fanboy, that being the main reason I got an S8+ like a dumb dumb lol. But I've changed! Having seen the leaks of the Pixel 3, implementing that annoying notch, losing the front facing speakers, I'm not impressed with Google's next offering and don't plan on getting it. That being said, the Pixel 2 XL seems to be a great phone. Is it still worth picking up at this point in its life?
Some explanation for my upgrading may be necessary. For those unfamiliar, the Galaxy S8+ is essentially completely locked down unless you have an international model. Being a Canadian with a Canadian model, I have a grand total of ZERO custom ROMs to use. Now, that's particularly irritating, because this is the first phone I've ever had where I've been locked out of modifying my device the way I want to, and that's very important to me. Had I known this was an issue going into it, I never would have gotten an S8+, but I picked it up very shortly after it was released so we didn't quite know about all of this yet.
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Hi guys and gals! I'm looking at upgrading from my Galaxy S8+ to a Pixel 2 XL. Having seen the leaks of the Pixel 3, implementing that annoying notch, losing the front facing speakers, I'm not impressed with Google's next offering and don't plan on getting it. That being said, the Pixel 2 XL seems to be a great phone. Is it still worth picking up at this point in its life?
Some explanation for my upgrading may be necessary. For those unfamiliar, the Galaxy S8+ is essentially completely locked down unless you have an international model. Being a Canadian with a Canadian model, I have a grand total of ZERO custom ROMs to use. Now, that's particularly irritating, because this is the first phone I've ever had where I've been locked out of modifying my device the way I want to, and that's very important to me. Had I known this was an issue going into it, I never would have gotten an S8+, but I picked it up very shortly after it was released so we didn't quite know about all of this yet.
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Here's what some other users and switchers think
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...ssions-coming-galaxy-s7-t3807551/post76887242
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/how-pixel-2-xl-perform-t3831024
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Here's what some other users and switchers think
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...ssions-coming-galaxy-s7-t3807551/post76887242
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/how-pixel-2-xl-perform-t3831024
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Thanks for that. Those were pretty good resources for how people feel about the general use. Have you noticed any down sides to rooting or modifying the device? For example, if you root an S8+, for some reason you can't charge it past 80% battery.
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Thanks for that. Those were pretty good resources for how people feel about the general use. Have you noticed any down sides to rooting or modifying the device? For example, if you root an S8+, for some reason you can't charge it past 80% battery.
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No downsides that I have experienced since rooting last November. I can flash roms, kernels, mods, themes. Use TiBu, AdAway, or whatever I like that requires root. My device is still fast, fluid, and works great. My only 2 complaints would be system volume isn't loud enough, and screen full brightness could be better. Other than that, it's a great device :good:
I purchased mine in March from Google.
It's currently running stock and rooted 9.0 and it's outstanding!!
At this point I see no other phone that I would switch to.
I'd buy it again today without hesitation.
It's one of the best phone and camera combination around...
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No downsides that I have experienced since rooting last November. I can flash roms, kernels, mods, themes. Use TiBu, AdAway, or whatever I like that requires root. My device is still fast, fluid, and works great. My only 2 complaints would be system volume isn't loud enough, and screen full brightness could be better. Other than that, it's a great device :good:
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Fantastic, that's just what I was hoping!
Done did it! Just got home with my swanky new phone!
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Done did it! Just got home with my swanky new phone!
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You didn't get it from Verizon did ya? Heaven forbid, sure hope not
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You didn't get it from Verizon did ya? Heaven forbid, sure hope not
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Haha nope, not Verizon! We good!
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Haha nope, not Verizon! We good!
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Saaweeeeeeeeeeet...congrats! Now unlock and root that beast! :good:
Congrats and welcome aboard! Cheers
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Saaweeeeeeeeeeet...congrats! Now unlock and root that beast! :good:
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Hell yeah! LETS DO IT TO IT! lol