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5T as upgrade from Note 4..what you guys think? Any feedback is welcome !

Hello!
So my wife has the Note 4 but it is pretty old by now and feels laggy. Unfortunately every new phone has this aspect ratio we both hate 18:9 aside from the Huawei Mate 10 and the the Note FE. Finding the FE seems hard with US warranty and the Mate 10 does not have an OLED screen which she loves. So...as she finds the Note 8 way too long with that hotdog shape...I started thinking the 5t even though is the same aspect ratio, being smaller might be a good alternative. The Mate 10 Pro is also on my short list.
Still, I am leaning towards the 5T the more I read about it. What you guys feel about it after using it for a while? How is Oreo doing on it? Please note that the phone will be completely stock as unlike me, my wife does not want ANY modifications to the stock roms lol
Is battery life really good? From the reviews I read I like that the UI seems very fast and smooth.
Anyways, anything you want to share (and if you came from a Note 4 even better). She does not really use the s-pen so she is fine losing that feature.
Thanks!

I came from Note 4 to OP5T and I love it.

FMXP said:
I came from Note 4 to OP5T and I love it.
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I am guessing the camera is better too?
I am reading a lot of complaints of the 5T camera being worst than the 5 and from samples, it seems like that indeed. I even started considering the Mate 10 Pro now because of that and also the Pixel 2 XL (but with so many burn in issues probably not).
Thanks!

I had different phones, the Xiaomi redmi note 4 lg g6, oneplus 5, s8, and the s8 plus. But I am going to buy to the Xiaomi redmi note 5 pro excellent price performance. The Samsung s8 is also very good if u don't want to flash roms. Easy to setup and system wide ad blocker and almost every month security updates and a very nice screen.
I said go for the s8 the new Samsung experience is very good and many times better than the old touchwiz and a very good battery live and performance.

Redmi Note 5 compared to Redmi Note 3

Hi everyone,
my Oneplus 3 is history as of yesterday. I really liked it for the past years, but now I need something new.
My priorities have somewhat shifted so tge Oneplus 6 is just to expensive imho atm.
I had a Redmi Note 3 these past years as a backup phone and besides a few flaws it performed well enough.
Therefore I'd be thankful if some of you can shed light on a few things which may have changed with the Redmi Note 5.
- the Redmi Note 3 tends to get quite warm, especially in summer when you're outside. That just doesn't feel safe for the device. How are temps on the Note 5?
- the wifi has always been a thing on my Note 3, I have way worse wifi than with my Oneplus 3 or anyone else for thst matter. Has wifi reception gotten better?
- I can't stand Miui, I'm a stock Android guy. I need a stable, daily driver rom with a Vanilla Android look that comes with ota updates. How are we doing with this on the Note 5? Official Lineage coming?
Anything else that might help my decision making or would be good to know?
Greets & thanks in advance!

5 Doesnt heat much,
Never had a prob with wifi
Go for AOSIP very stable and snappy

-Zeppelin- said:
Hi everyone,
my Oneplus 3 is history as of yesterday. I really liked it for the past years, but now I need something new.
My priorities have somewhat shifted so tge Oneplus 6 is just to expensive imho atm.
I had a Redmi Note 3 these past years as a backup phone and besides a few flaws it performed well enough.
Therefore I'd be thankful if some of you can shed light on a few things which may have changed with the Redmi Note 5.
- the Redmi Note 3 tends to get quite warm, especially in summer when you're outside. That just doesn't feel safe for the device. How are temps on the Note 5?
- the wifi has always been a thing on my Note 3, I have way worse wifi than with my Oneplus 3 or anyone else for thst matter. Has wifi reception gotten better?
- I can't stand Miui, I'm a stock Android guy. I need a stable, daily driver rom with a Vanilla Android look that comes with ota updates. How are we doing with this on the Note 5? Official Lineage coming?
Anything else that might help my decision making or would be good to know?
Greets & thanks in advance!
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I loved my Kenzo, was my first Xiaomi phone.
I find that this one heats up less than the Note 3 did, which would make sense, especially given the 28nm SOC that the Note 3 did.
Wifi is pretty good on this one, I don't have any complaints.
Plenty of options for custom roms, given that you can also use Treble based rom's as well.

goofball2k said:
I find that this one heats up less than the Note 5 did, which would make sense, especially given the 28nm SOC that the Note 3 did.
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Wtf are you trying to pull off here?

Blowolf said:
Wtf are you trying to pull off here?
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I think, in the first line he mis-wrote note 5.

So it seems the Note 5 would be a good option for me...
What are your major downsides so far?

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What are your major downsides so far?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...warning-update-to-recent-miui-builds-t3814895
Only this comes to mind.

Blowolf said:
Wtf are you trying to pull off here?
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Wow, don't blow up the internet because of a typo.
I meant to write Note 3 Pro.

it's a good upgrade from RN3Pro, much stable, good battery life. This phone only gets warm if you play some games that stress the gpu.
It's not hot if you use it under the sunlight for hours, not like the RN3Pro.
it's a budget phone after all, don't expect the quality as high as the flagship one does. But for the phone in this price range, I don't think twice to buy this phone haha

-Zeppelin- said:
Hi everyone,
my Oneplus 3 is history as of yesterday. I really liked it for the past years, but now I need something new.
My priorities have somewhat shifted so tge Oneplus 6 is just to expensive imho atm.
I had a Redmi Note 3 these past years as a backup phone and besides a few flaws it performed well enough.
Therefore I'd be thankful if some of you can shed light on a few things which may have changed with the Redmi Note 5.
- the Redmi Note 3 tends to get quite warm, especially in summer when you're outside. That just doesn't feel safe for the device. How are temps on the Note 5?
- the wifi has always been a thing on my Note 3, I have way worse wifi than with my Oneplus 3 or anyone else for thst matter. Has wifi reception gotten better?
- I can't stand Miui, I'm a stock Android guy. I need a stable, daily driver rom with a Vanilla Android look that comes with ota updates. How are we doing with this on the Note 5? Official Lineage coming?
Anything else that might help my decision making or would be good to know?
Greets & thanks in advance!
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A good suggestion from me.
Unlock bootloader of your kenzo, install twrp and flash miui 9 8.4.12 or 8.4.26 port by orochi with agni kernel 12.2. Then your kenzo will never heat and will work very well. No issues in these ROMS. These are the best ROMS I have tried and I am still using the 8.4.26 port by orochi.
You will fall in love again with kenzo.
Sent from my Redmi Note 3 using XDA Labs

Probably, but I just can't work with Miui. I need a Vanilla Android Rom. It's not that Miui doesn't look & work good, but I'm so used to Vanilla, I just can't adjust.
But thanks for the tip anyway!

I've been using a Oneplus 5T lately and bought a Note 5 "for fun". With Miui its kind laggy but gestures are pretty good.
Using RR on Note 5 now and it's quite OK, not as snappy as Oneplus 5T but fast enough, only gesture navigation is not really good (bad detection).
Happened when I had Redmi Note 3 Pro and is happening again, imho no point to spend more than what you spend for a Note 5 really (thinking my Oneplus 5T costed almost 3 times as much...).

RR = Resurrection?
I won't use gestures (besides quick pulldown & apo drawer opening), so I guess I'm fine there.
Honestly what could get annoying is the camera. But then again, the OP3s camera was rubbish aswell.

-Zeppelin- said:
So it seems the Note 5 would be a good option for me...
What are your major downsides so far?
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Definitely. I changed from RN3Pro to RN5 and I'm happy. I haven't feeled any urge to go custom yet (1-2 months since i got the phone). The only downside is you have to be carefull with updates, because Xiaomi has implemented anti rollback feature without warning people. Also camera still needs some fixes. But I'm happy i got RN5

Interested to hear more people's opinions. I'm still using my RN3P that I've had for over 2 years now. The only thing I'm really looking for from the RN5 is an improved camera. I replaced the battery about 5 months ago and am able to still get 8-11 hours SOT with it. Love this damn phone so much.
Placed my 4/64 global RN5 order a few days ago. Can't wait. Hope it is a worthy upgrade to trusty Kenzo.

Phone got stuck at mi logo

I was on a custom rom (pixel experience) and my phone was rooted and when I tried to undo the root and restart the device it got stuck in the mi logo. What should I do

Iamashu18 said:
I was on a custom rom (pixel experience) and my phone was rooted and when I tried to undo the root and restart the device it got stuck in the mi logo. What should I do
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I will suggest you...
boot into TWRP --> Format Data --> Install ROM again !

Iamashu18 said:
I was on a custom rom (pixel experience) and my phone was rooted and when I tried to undo the root and restart the device it got stuck in the mi logo. What should I do
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D-Load a version of the Stock ROM ( 9.5.17.0 if you can... ) transfer it from you computer and flash it..

reboot phone to twrp mode and make a backup of your data if u want data not to be lost.
flash your custom rom,and again go to twrp mode and restore your data excluding(system) and reboot the device.
try it,it worked for me without loss of data.

RaiderWill said:
D-Load a version of the Stock ROM ( 9.5.17.0 if you can... ) transfer it from you computer and flash it..
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Don't suggest arb3 ROM. He might have installed arb4 ROM before flashing custom ROM

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SunilSuni said:
Don't suggest arb3 ROM. He might have installed arb4 ROM before flashing custom ROM
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Hey S.S....
It's been a while man... :good:
Of Course You're Correct..
It's been about a month and a half... I think we would have read something by now if there was an issue..
Take Care Man..
My Time With The XRN5 is Almost At An End..

RaiderWill said:
Hey S.S....
It's been a while man... :good:
Of Course You're Correct..
It's been about a month and a half... I think we would have read something by now if there was an issue..
Take Care Man..
My Time With The XRN5 is Almost At An End..
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So which device you are considering to buy now ??
Good to see you too take care well

The Deal Just Finalized..
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So which device you are considering to buy now ??
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Hey S.S...
Not 30 Minutes Ago I pulled the trigger on the Samsung Galaxy A70.
It's only about 6mm taller than the XRN5.. but, packs a 6.7 inch SuperAmoled Display that is simply Incredible.
Samsung's OneUI coupled with a Samsung app called Good Lock.. gives you almost endless tweaks without root access.
The Snapdragon 675 / Adreno 512 SoC along with Samsung Pay having NFC and MST capabilities and 6 GB of Ram / 128 GB of Storage sealed the deal..
Honorable Mention To:
The Redmi K20 Pro
The Asus Zen 6
The OnePlus 7
A little more expensive.. faster.. but not as feature rich as the Galaxy A70..
I'll Stay In Touch.. You've Done A Fantastic Job Helping So Many With The XRN5... Keep It Up Boss! :good:

RaiderWill said:
Hey S.S...
Not 30 Minutes Ago I pulled the trigger on the Samsung Galaxy A70.
It's only about 6mm taller than the XRN5.. but, packs a 6.7 inch SuperAmoled Display that is simply Incredible.
Samsung's OneUI coupled with a Samsung app called Good Lock.. gives you almost endless tweaks without root access.
The Snapdragon 675 / Adreno 512 SoC along with Samsung Pay having NFC and MST capabilities and 6 GB of Ram / 128 GB of Storage sealed the deal..
Honorable Mention To:
The Redmi K20 Pro
The Asus Zen 6
The OnePlus 7
A little more expensive.. faster.. but not as feature rich as the Galaxy A70..
I'll Stay In Touch.. You've Done A Fantastic Job Helping So Many With The XRN5... Keep It Up Boss! :good:
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That one is superb mobile... Enjoy well and take care nicely.

SunilSuni said:
That one is superb mobile... Enjoy well and take care nicely.
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As Always... Thank You..
Nice To See 9.0 Pie come to the XRN5 from Xiaomi 's own Towers.. It shows their support for the device.. :good:

RaiderWill said:
As Always... Thank You..
Nice To See 9.0 Pie come to the XRN5 from Xiaomi 's own Towers.. It shows their support for the device.. :good:
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Yeah. Xiaomi finally rolled out Android Pie update with native Dark Mode option.. I hope you will enjoy dark mode option in AMOLED display..
Huge difference between Redmi Note 5 and Samsung A70. Hope you will love all the new features

SunilSuni said:
Yeah. Xiaomi finally rolled out Android Pie update with native Dark Mode option.. I hope you will enjoy dark mode option in AMOLED display..
Huge difference between Redmi Note 5 and Samsung A70. Hope you will love all the new features
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I just seen that Dark Mode has been implemented..
That's cool.. I've always used Xiaomi's Theme Store.. And I LOVE Dark Themes.. but it's nice for those that like to go from light to dark depending on the time of day.
And Yes.. I've so missed Amoled Displays.. I had a Note 4.. and would STILL be using it if I did not Cheap Out and buy a dang $1.00 car charger & cable..
It burned my Note 4 out! That's been almost 3 years ago... So, I can't wait to fire that puppy up for the 1st time and see 6.7 inches of pure black heaven.. :highfive:

RaiderWill said:
Hey S.S....
It's been a while man... :good:
Of Course You're Correct..
It's been about a month and a half... I think we would have read something by now if there was an issue..
Take Care Man..
My Time With The XRN5 is Almost At An End..
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Nothing personally and totally nothing against you, but I'm curious since I never asked that someone, why a new mobile phone after just 1 year? Since I'm used to have a single phone for 2 - 3 years.

Hello..
xell75 said:
Nothing personally and totally nothing against you, but I'm curious since I never asked that someone, why a new mobile phone after just 1 year? Since I'm used to have a single phone for 2 - 3 years.
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Hi There X..
I think.. if you ask 10 different people.. you'd get 10 different answers..
In my case, Having the Note 5 Pro "Rooted-Stock" has been pretty much perfect. 100% Stable & Fast with Nova Prime and Animations at 0.5.. Viper sounds great.. Quickboot works like a charm.. And Greenify rounds out the reasons that I rooted the stock O.S.
So Why Move On From What Seems Like A Perfect Fit?
1st) Samsung SuperAmoled Displays.. ( My New Device Has A 6.7 inch Screen )
2nd) Samsung Pay (NFC / MST Technology Works ANYWHERE a Debit / Credit Card is accepted ) Google Pay.. Not.
3rd) Samsung OneUI ( In conjunction with an app called Good Lock ) provides Endless System Tweaks without root.
4th) Samsung 's AR Emoji's!!! ( Super Fun To Play With! )
5th) Samsung's Bezel- Less Design..( I'm cool with the Infinity U-Notch.. and you can hide it )
6th) I recently purchase a new Camry.. with Scoutlink Technology.. Toyota doesn't acknowledge Xiaomi devices at all... The Salesperson and I Brought a OnePlus 7 Pro out of a T-Mobile store to see if the Camry software would acknowledge the connection.. No Problem it linked to the OnePlus 7 Pro instantly.. as did a $100.00 Samsung J3 Prime device... Toyota Simply Does Not Acknowledge Xiaomi..
Well.. I think that pretty much sums up my thought process..
The Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro wins a lot of battle's..
But The Samsung A70 Knows How To Win The War.

RaiderWill said:
Hi There X..
I think.. if you ask 10 different people.. you'd get 10 different answers..
In my case, Having the Note 5 Pro "Rooted-Stock" has been pretty much perfect. 100% Stable & Fast with Nova Prime and Animations at 0.5.. Viper sounds great.. Quickboot works like a charm.. And Greenify rounds out the reasons that I rooted the stock O.S.
So Why Move On From What Seems Like A Perfect Fit?
1st) Samsung SuperAmoled Displays.. ( My New Device Has A 6.7 inch Screen )
2nd) Samsung Pay (NFC / MST Technology Works ANYWHERE a Debit / Credit Card is accepted ) Google Pay.. Not.
3rd) Samsung OneUI ( In conjunction with an app called Good Lock ) provides Endless System Tweaks without root.
4th) Samsung 's AR Emoji's!!! ( Super Fun To Play With! )
5th) Samsung's Bezel- Less Design..( I'm cool with the Infinity U-Notch.. and you can hide it )
6th) I recently purchase a new Camry.. with Scoutlink Technology.. Toyota doesn't acknowledge Xiaomi devices at all... The Salesperson and I Brought a OnePlus 7 Pro out of a T-Mobile store to see if the Camry software would acknowledge the connection.. No Problem it linked to the OnePlus 7 Pro instantly.. as did a $100.00 Samsung J3 Prime device... Toyota Simply Does Not Acknowledge Xiaomi..
Well.. I think that pretty much sums up my thought process..
The Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro wins a lot of battle's..
But The Samsung A70 Knows How To Win The War.
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Okay that makes Sense. I'm totally different
1. The 6 Inch Screen is totally okay for me and I prefer IPS LCD More. (Sounds maybe weird, but yeah xD)
2. Never used any of the paying technologies, never used NFC on any phone at all and I not really feel like I need it, I still prefer paying with real money that I can hold in my hand, oldschool, but that's how I am xD
3. I'm really in love with MIUI meanwhile and since the S4 I never used Samsung ever again. But yeah the settings I can manage on MIUI are more than enough for me. (I use my phone unrooted since I not like Magisk and I never unlocked it, all offical still and pure Stock since over 7 months, now on offical MIUI Pie
4. Not really Something I personally need ?
5. Even if you can hide it, I hate all types of Notches and avoid every phone that has it and it doesn't matter for me if it's bezel-less or not, so long the phone fits my needs.
7. Cannot say anything to that, since I don't own a car, I don't even have a Driver license with 29 xD Cause here in Berlin/Germany I not really need it since I get everywhere in Berlin just by bus and train really cheap per month.
So as you see, my Points are totally different and as you maybe see I will take good care of my Redmi Note 5 so long as possible. ? And you take good care of your new phone.

Planning to Buy OnePlus 5t in 2019?

Hello guys
Sorry for the long question.
I am very confused these days, i sold Redmi Note 7 some days ago but now i don't understand that what device is perfect for me in my low budget. I have some devices in my mind:
1. Pocophone F1
2. Realme 3 Pro
3. OnePlus 5T
What i need:
I really like to install different roms on my deivce, occasionally gaming and most of the time watching movies etc.
Why i am not able to decide ?
1. Pocophone F1
Big notch taking over 70% of status bar. Heard / saw different threads claiming that the devices has touch screen / hardware issues.
2. Realme 3 Pro
Realme 5 Pro also available around the world but not in Pakistan. In Pakistan only option so far is Realme 3 Pro. Overall phone seems to be a good deal. But there is no Android development.
3. OnePlus 5T
This device is my most favorite device. Do you guys recommend me to buy 5T in 2019? and i also want to now, that is there any common hardware related issues to check for before buying?
Looking for response from you guys.

Plenty of ROM support and easy methodology to tamper, if you aren't a fan of OOS which is quite good anyway. Updates are still being released quite frequently through the beta.
Bought mine on release, coming up on 2 years ago now. Only complaints I have hardware wise:
-charging port can be finicky, but I need to clean it.
-camera is very average (but GCam mod with root + camera library dot fix performs very well)
I don't see myself getting a different phone for at LEAST another year and a bit. Take of that what you will.

I bought oneplus 5t 2 weeks a ago and i would say buy the damn phone you won't regret it, previously i was using samsung a50 but was not satisfied with the performance, oneplus 5t is blazing fast, go for it

Good phone but two things that suck
Vibration motor is horrible. It's so weak that I can't even hear it most of the time
Camera quality out of the box is just average
This two things didn't seem to be important to me in the past but you do notice the difference after using the phone for 2 years

In my opinion 5T is still beast but official beta support had dropped
Not that much custom ROMs available (many maintainers and developers switched to op6 or higher models)
Better try to buy op6or6T

Although open beta has been stripped for the 5t I'm still more than happy with my 5t. I even prefer OOS over the custom ROMs because it's really fast, stable and the gesture control kicks ass and is way better than that Google thing. Plus have in mind that OP already confirmed Android q. It may take a while but for now OP is still going strong with security patches. As long the battery is fine so am I.

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The Pocophone has larger battery and an IR scanner which is amazing for face recognition. But the screen is not good as 5T's.
Oxygen OS is probably the best out there. It is light and so fast and allows so many customizations. I bet you won't be bothered with custom ROMs!
Snapdragons 835 and 845 don't differ much either.
I'd go for the 5T if I found both at similar price.

Motorolla G 5G Plus Updates and Support Questions

hello .. i am really interested with this phone as its currently on sale for 375USD ~ 1399 SAR (including VAT 15% and fees) wherr i am right now ( Moto G 5G Plus 128GB 8GB ram ) and i have some questions regarding this phone :
as i have been using android since 2010 ( Samsung S2 - Samsung Note - Samsung Note 2 - Innjoo - Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 - LG V20 - Poco F1 - Mi Max 3 - Mi Max 2 ) i would like to know about these particular points :
1. how does Motorola deliver software updates compared to Xiaomi, Samsung and LG for example ,,, Xiaomi for getting the most out of it with 3 to 4 security and bugs updates and a big android version change annually While LG might get the one or two update to security patches only with no android version update ????
This is still not answered, we received the September 2020 patch on android 10 for now RETMEA channel .... phone code name is nairo
2. Screen on time Expectations; and let me know if this is single or dual 5g / 4g standby mode .. this is important because it heavily affects the standby time ...
Can this phone use both sims and sd card with an adapter ? i would love to know if any of you have tried that
Answer : dual 4g standby and 4g+/5g on the active data sim when it supports it , hybrid adapter works and getting about a day and a half of life with this phone now ... Still on my second cycle and so far i am getting about 8 hrs sot
Update : battery usage is getting better ... 1.5 days of backup with 9 hrs SOT
3. is this phone easily rooted like requesting the unlock and then using a recovery from fastboot with magisk flash ? or its hard like doing LG v20 wizardry and dirty cow exploits with terminals and flashing ? ( i did both ways before on my older phones but i am just getting the sense of this phone
Answer : its not easily rooted due to lack of developers support and rooting will void all warranty which is absurd, plus you get an intrusive badge on your phone once you unlocked boot loader ... Xiaomi is far better in that case because you can re-lock it and the unlocked sign is not like a nuclear disaster sign .. this remind me of samsung and LG which is not appropriate
Rooted by patching the boot.img file with magisk app inside the phone then flashing it from fast boot, its a manual thing and the TWRP recovery is not working well on this Variant so far so you cannot rely on it (cannot access internal storage or sd card while it request codes or passwords)
4. how does this phone compare to the poco x3 nfc ? in terms of daily usage and smoothness ? is the internal memory fast like UFS ?
Answer : it is faster than poco x3 ... 276k poco vs 309k Antutu v8.4.3 ... Ufs 2.1 as gsm arena mentioned
5. does this phone support USB on the go function ? Are the ringer and notification volumes separable in the software ?
Answer : usb otg and charging other devices is supported, ringer and notification volumes cannot be separated (big bummer)? in settings but i am trying Volume Butler for now and so far i can say it sometimes work and sometimes not due to the fact i am using "island" which has applied a personal and a work profile inside the phone
6. does the phone speaker sound pack some bass like the lg v20 for example ? or its tinny like the poco F1 ?
Answer : closer to poco f1 less bass mono speaker, but its loud enough for media consumption for me atleast
7. will motorola support this phone even further with newer features like stereo speakers like what happened for the mi max 2 as an example ? or we will probably rely on other developers for a magisk module ?
Answer not clear yet
8. best cases for this phone ( links on amazon or aliexpress are appreciated if mods approve )
i bought lots of them from aliexpress and i am trying them now ... so far i like this one
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001600406047.html
for stickers i went installing the Hydrogel one yesterday and with the cover the whole phone experience went from ( a very slim phone that i am afraid to crush and break ) to ( this is a good phone that can deal with my daily usage )
9. the device has no notification LED and instead you get a pesky feature called ( display peek ) that keeps the phone turning the screen on for each move and vibration , plus the notifications cannot be seen if you have the hide notification mode on .... simply a bummer for a person who just wants to double tap to wake and unlock only as this called feature consume lots of battery for nothing ! ... motorola if you can see this please fix it
these are some of the detailed issues that i would like keep exploring solutions for as i am very eager to see your answer

Update : added some answers from my experience as i got the phone on 26-10-2020
No notification led light and the phone keeps lighting up the screen if you use moto gestures which is a pain .. already disabled
Google assistant button is useless
No double tap to wake
Nord VPN app notworking properly cannot login or use the vpn (Updated app now works fine)... Other vpn provider ultrasurf worked fine
No full screen recorder
21:9 screen is very long and only well suited for portrait use
Phone got security patch update September 2020

moto g 5g plus varient specs and antutu score
Some screen shots showing the current device specs and antutu score

I have had it for 2 weeks now, feels quite sluggish especially when switching apps but this is the 4gb ram version. Is the 8gb ram one any better?
This is an android one device which Google says should receive os updates for 2 years (android 11 and 12) and security updates for 3 but no word on the moto g 5g plus specifically

ludio22 said:
I have had it for 2 weeks now, feels quite sluggish especially when switching apps but this is the 4gb ram version. Is the 8gb ram one any better?
This is an android one device which Google says should receive os updates for 2 years (android 11 and 12) and security updates for 3 but no word on the moto g 5g plus specifically
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Glad to hear that it will be supported for 2 more years
Ram usage here is higher than 4gb everyday so yeah its smooth and working well so far ... Can you do the antutu on your varient and check the score to compare ?
Ps : dont forget to turn on adaptive performance it really makes it smoother after a couple of days depending on your usage

thanks
thanks for the advice about adaptive performance, i have turned that on and the difference is significant. i do have my reservations about downloading antutu, just because of all the stuff cheetah mobile has been accused of, but i have done some geekbench tests which I screenshotted but I don't knkow how to upload them here,
so the multi core scores averaged at 1838 and
the single threaded at 592 after running 3 tests

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thanks for the advice about adaptive performance, i have turned that on and the difference is significant. i do have my reservations about downloading antutu, just because of all the stuff cheetah mobile has been accused of, but i have done some geekbench tests which I screenshotted but I don't knkow how to upload them here,
so the multi core scores averaged at 1838 and
the single threaded at 592 after running 3 tests
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Hi ludio22,
I'm going to buy the 4gb version too. How is it going after these two months? Is 4gb really a limit for everyday use?

The phone can be rooted very easily, with the standard Magisk procedure.