Google assistant on OFF screen? Always-on listening? - Redmi Note 8 Pro Questions & Answers

Das RN8 pro have "Unlock with Voice Match" with Google assistant? Or "Unlock by voice command" like in Pixel phones?
I need always-on listening capabilities to control Google Home.
The important part is being able to activate it when the screen is off.

I have found that Mi 9T has problem with it https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/help/google-assistant-lock-screen-t3980779/page2

Ok Google does work when screen is locked. But it does NOT unlock phone. It allows you to perform certain actions but for some you have to unlock phone for them to work.
So, for example, if you ask it what is in calendar it will tell you without need to unlock phone - ask it to give you directions somewhere and it will say " for that you need to unlock your phone"
I have a Google home mini so let me know what you want it to do and I will try it. It is a bit random what it will and won't do without unlocking. For instance it won't let me turn off smart bulbs without unlocking but will let me play music to my home mini.
Ian

How you anaible voice match? Mine says that phone doesnt support thin Language Us, also gpay don't work device is rooted or altered in other ways.. play store is is not certified

irhur said:
Ok Google does work when screen is locked. But it does NOT unlock phone. It allows you to perform certain actions but for some you have to unlock phone for them to work.
So, for example, if you ask it what is in calendar it will tell you without need to unlock phone - ask it to give you directions somewhere and it will say " for that you need to unlock your phone"
I have a Google home mini so let me know what you want it to do and I will try it. It is a bit random what it will and won't do without unlocking. For instance it won't let me turn off smart bulbs without unlocking but will let me play music to my home mini.
Ian
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Thank you.
Exactly I am thinking about controling my smart home
Lights, turning on TV, playing music or setting alarms.
Can you please test some of them?
The question is if RN8pro can work same way like Google home mini? Or I still need both?

I think you still need both. It can do all the things you want but for some you will need to unlock phone. It needs phone unlocked to switch on TV, turn on or of smart devices. It will answer basic questions , give calendar dates, broadcast and play music without the need to unlock.
So it is not a direct replacement for your Google home. The functionality is useful but not has good as the Google home.
Ian

irhur said:
I think you still need both. It can do all the things you want but for some you will need to unlock phone. It needs phone unlocked to switch on TV, turn on or of smart devices. It will answer basic questions , give calendar dates, broadcast and play music without the need to unlock.
So it is not a direct replacement for your Google home. The functionality is useful but not has good as the Google home.
Ian
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Ok I see.
Is there any way how to turn ON "Unlock with Voice Match"?
That would solved all problems.
ps: haw you tried Alexa?

I have not found a way to unlock with voice match. I haven't tried Alexa - might have a go.
Ian

irhur said:
I have not found a way to unlock with voice match. I haven't tried Alexa - might have a go.
Ian
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There is big chance now...look at Ambient Mode: Android's proactive Google Assistant.
Hope we can enable it on Redmi Nite 8 Pro soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaRzJo_19nY

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How does it behave without a BT connection?

Work no longer let's us carry our phones with us there for the 360 will spend a lot of its time with no phone connection. I'm assuming it will still keep time? I only ask because an early Sony smart watch couldn't. What else? Can you still set timers use the stop watch? Can you use apps that don't require Internet connection like a calculator?
Anyone?
I don't have one but if it's like the g watch you will be able to still use the functions you asked about.
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That's what I would expect.. But you never know these days. I just didn't want some usless brick that says please sync all day.
Thanks
Yes, I can still check the time, set a timer, use the stop watch, etc. I haven't found a calculator app that works on the round display, yet.
It seems like voice recognition doesn't work, but anything you can run from the menu does. So you can set an alarm, timer, etc, though you have to use the touch interface which may not be as flexible.
I hope they give the option for offline voice recognition at some point. I think it would be very advantageous to be able to do basic tasks like setting reminders, alarms and creating notes etc. these could easily then sync once the phone is reconnected. There's no hardware reason why this wouldn't be possible it will just require implementation.
Tung_meister said:
I hope they give the option for offline voice recognition at some point. I think it would be very advantageous to be able to do basic tasks like setting reminders, alarms and creating notes etc. these could easily then sync once the phone is reconnected. There's no hardware reason why this wouldn't be possible it will just require implementation.
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Also, if you put it in airplane mode, it doesn't even give you the voice prompt screen... instead it immediately shows the list of activities / apps you can do. Voice on that screen does not work at all. Too bad!
GTvert90 said:
Work no longer let's us carry our phones with us there for the 360 will spend a lot of its time with no phone connection. I'm assuming it will still keep time? I only ask because an early Sony smart watch couldn't. What else? Can you still set timers use the stop watch? Can you use apps that don't require Internet connection like a calculator?
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Worked fine for me today. Just shows a Google cloud icon with a slash through it on the screen.
Does anyone know if i can set it up without phone? Like only watch the time and heart js enough but I have to know if i cqn set it up?
Mikeartworks said:
Does anyone know if i can set it up without phone? Like only watch the time and heart js enough but I have to know if i cqn set it up?
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I'm pretty sure this is not possible. When you first take it out of the box, it asks for a language, after selecting one, no swiping, tapping, or anything else can get it from a screen saying to download the Wear app on your phone. It simply will not do anything until it does.
That's my experience, anyway. I couldn't get anything until my phone synced.
Johmama said:
I'm pretty sure this is not possible. When you first take it out of the box, it asks for a language, after selecting one, no swiping, tapping, or anything else can get it from a screen saying to download the Wear app on your phone. It simply will not do anything until it does.
That's my experience, anyway. I couldn't get anything until my phone synced.
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Yeah I talked to motorola customer service and they said that it won't ask that if it doesn't detects a android phone nearby. Hope this is true.
You have access to all of your watch apps like still. All apps that depended on your phone (like google now) won't work anymore. Basically what you'd expect.

[Q] No Google Now, any point in getting this watch?

Hi All
I like in a Country that doesn't have Google Now, Location services etc enabled. Is there any point in me getting this watch? Will it work without Google Now? Obviously, it won't provide contextually aware notifications, but everything else should function fine right?
Thanks, Bob
bobspace said:
Hi All
I like in a Country that doesn't have Google Now, Location services etc enabled. Is there any point in me getting this watch? Will it work without Google Now? Obviously, it won't provide contextually aware notifications, but everything else should function fine right?
Thanks, Bob
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I live in a country that Google Now is enabled but I don't use it.
So I don't have the customized notifications and results when I use "OK Google" on my device.
But the great power of the device is the notifications from apps. This is the best part and the main reason to get it. I haven't regretted using the device the past weeks.
gbil said:
I live in a country that Google Now is enabled but I don't use it.
So I don't have the customized notifications and results when I use "OK Google" on my device.
But the great power of the device is the notifications from apps. This is the best part and the main reason to get it. I haven't regretted using the device the past weeks.
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Good to know.
Thanks for the quick response.
Looks like I'm getting a cool Christmas present!!
I've had my SSW3 for a few days now, I've slept with it, been running with it, and Google Fit collects the data on the watch. However, Google Fit does not upload to the website or the phone, I think this is because Google Location Reporting isn't available (we all have Google Now it seems!!).
Any tips on getting my steps from my watch, to my phone, to the internet?
Im also dont have google now in my country, but i enable It whith a Italiano or England SIM card and It works nice will my SONY SW3 . You can find some tutorials how to enable google now on non suported country on web
Enea307 said:
Im also dont have google now in my country, but i enable It whith a Italiano or England SIM card and It works nice will my SONY SW3 . You can find some tutorials how to enable google now on non suported country on web
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Google Now isn't the issue, it's the location reporting. This can't be faked it seems.
I think you have to set searchlanguage to English US.
I have set searchlanguage to "English US" and got voicesetting or speechsetting set to "Dutch". Now it seems to work best. Like "Navigate to.......(Dutch adress)" works now.

Info/advice regarding unlock code, ROMs etc....

Basically I bought a V20 a little while ago which turned out to be a Chinese variant and I stupidly delayed on getting an unlock code.
It now seems that I have literally no way in which to switch/change the ROM to the global variant or even a custom one. Basically I am stuck with a phone that wont even allow me to use google assistant and is in a lot of ways pretty useless.
Suffice to say I am pretty pissed off but also just disappointed. Its a great phone. Amazing battery life, one of the best cameras I have even used on a phone, lightning fast etc. But it cant do half the things I want it to.
Does anyone have any advice or ways in which I might be able switch the ROM or unlock the bootloader. I am getting kind of desperate and am almost at the point of giving away the phone and buying a Xiaomi/another brand of Android.
I also have an honor view 20 Chinese version and it does everything that a American phone can do including use Google Assistant, is there something that you would like me to tell you how to make work on your phone?
xanderr89 said:
I stupidly delayed on getting an unlock code.
It now seems that I have literally no way in which to switch/change the ROM to the global variant or even a custom one. Basically I am stuck with a phone that wont even allow me to use google assistant and is in a lot of ways pretty useless.
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It's not your fault - from what I understand, Huawei stopped issuing bootloader codes months before the V20 was even released, so there wasn't anything you could have done.
As for unlocking, in the past I've used DC Unlocker before but the caveat is that it charges you money for every bootloader code. Also, I've never been able to successfully flash a different region's ROM without soft-bricking, so YMMV.
DJW35 said:
I also have an honor view 20 Chinese version and it does everything that a American phone can do including use Google Assistant, is there something that you would like me to tell you how to make work on your phone?
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Thanks for the reply, basically at the moment when i open google assistant, every time it tells me to go and set google as the default assistant app. I do that and set it. It then, kinda works (ie it goes back to assistant and it will listen to me while the app is open). As soon as I close assistant or restart my phone and I open the google assistant app again it tells me to do the same thing ( it loses the default setting and I am back at square one, it will never stick.)
Also if i go into the google settings and go to "Voice" and then "Voice match" it is simply grayed out. Which means I cannot train it to recognize my voice/ or say ok google to open the voice assistant.
Also when I hold down the middle navigation button it comes up with HiVoice app that is pre installed on the device.
This link seems to be what I have been having issues with. I need to remove hivoice and actually get hey google to work
NekoMichi said:
It's not your fault - from what I understand, Huawei stopped issuing bootloader codes months before the V20 was even released, so there wasn't anything you could have done.
As for unlocking, in the past I've used DC Unlocker before but the caveat is that it charges you money for every bootloader code. Also, I've never been able to successfully flash a different region's ROM without soft-bricking, so YMMV.
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Thanks for the reply. This seems a little crazy, seems like one of the only phones that wont let you unlock the bootloader and install a different ROM. :S

Broken screen, trying to do data recovery

I have a friend's A50 that was dropped and the screen does not power on. The device is stock, unrooted. It does power on because I get vibrations from doing various power button long presses and such, feeling as if it's powering on and then entering the OS. Additionally it can even be called and it rings.
Unfortunately, USB Debugging is not enabled so ADP isn't working. Also since it's defaulting to no file transfer, plugging it into a computer is not allowing access to the file system. All I'm trying to do is recover her photos and songs and such that she has recorded from the device storage.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to access the onboard storage?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Morpherios said:
I have a friend's A50 that was dropped and the screen does not power on. The device is stock, unrooted. It does power on because I get vibrations from doing various power button long presses and such, feeling as if it's powering on and then entering the OS. Additionally it can even be called and it rings.
Unfortunately, USB Debugging is not enabled so ADP isn't working. Also since it's defaulting to no file transfer, plugging it into a computer is not allowing access to the file system. All I'm trying to do is recover her photos and songs and such that she has recorded from the device storage.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to access the onboard storage?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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Use the steps mentioned here :
https://youtu.be/GPJcR_Iosm4
I've personally tested it on my A50 prior to telling you. So it works 100%
Your problem doesn't require forensic tools, this simple fix works.
Tip :
• Windows key on keyboard opens Google Assistant. No need to say Hey/Ok Google.
• Not necessary, but you can keep another Smartphone nearby to verify your actions.
• Read the comments under the video.
Cheers !
I appreciate the help! I have a USB C OTG adapter on the way that should arrive tonight so I'm going to give it a shot. Thanks again, I'll let you know how it goes.
Sumedh_ said:
Use the steps mentioned here :
https://youtu.be/GPJcR_Iosm4
I've personally tested it on my A50 prior to telling you. So it works 100%
Your problem doesn't require forensic tools, this simple fix works.
Tip :
• Windows key on keyboard opens Google Assistant. No need to say Hey/Ok Google.
• Not necessary, but you can keep another Smartphone nearby to verify your actions.
• Read the comments under the video.
Cheers !
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Whelp, no such luck. I'm sure that method would work fine under normal circumstances. I was able to practice on my Pixel 2 XL and it did work. But it appears she did not have google assistant set up, so I could not use voice to turn on wifi. It also appears to have no data connection without wifi, so I can't push an app to it through the play store. Even if I could get wifi turned on, there's no way to force it to connect to my wifi.
The unlock is a pattern, not a pin, so while you *can* unlock a pattern with a mouse or track pad (which I do have), doing it blindly is nearly impossible. So I have no way of knowing if I've even unlocked the phone. In short, I really don't know if there's much I can do for her, sadly.
@Morpherios
I already stated you don't need voice assistant activated, you can use Windows key to activate without saying Ok/Hey Google.
Read my @1 point.
Cheers !
Sumedh_ said:
@Morpherios
I already stated you don't need voice assistant activated, you can use Windows key to activate without saying Ok/Hey Google.
Read my @1 point.
Cheers !
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The biggest 2 problems are that I can't verify if i've unlocked it since it uses a pattern and there's no feedback to tell me (I'm basically doing it blind from a touchpad because I don't know how else to go about it), and also that I don't know if it'll even get onto my wifi assuming I can get in and get it to turn on wifi.
I wish it was a pin, that would at least be easy to type in on the keyboard.
Morpherios said:
The biggest 2 problems are that I can't verify if i've unlocked it since it uses a pattern and there's no feedback to tell me (I'm basically doing it blind from a touchpad because I don't know how else to go about it), and also that I don't know if it'll even get onto my wifi assuming I can get in and get it to turn on wifi.
I wish it was a pin, that would at least be easy to type in on the keyboard.
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Don't worry.
I see you need your data urgently.
Use Cracked version of Dr.Fone software, it'll recover your data without USB debugging as well.
P.S - Message me personally on Xda, don't post here from now. I'll help you there.
Cheers !
What can I do if cant install APP from google play from PC?
How about replace the display and have a functional phone with your data back?
Hi, is it possible to unlock the device with the keyboard and then use a USB-C to HDMI cable to view the screen on an external monitor ?

Question Google assistant: "...yes, but first you need to unlock the phone."

Hi to all,
I have encounter a boring problem with op9 pro paired with bluetooth headset (more than one).
every time I said on assistant by my bluetooth headsets (aftershokx aeropex, oneplus bullets wireless Z) any commands like "call mom" "open garage Stefano" "turn on stairs light", and so on, assistant telle me to unlock phone first (????). On assistant the option of "personal results on lockscreen" and the one relative to bluetooth devices is activated, but: "[...]yes, but first you need to unlock the phone.".
on my op7 pro i try same commands without any problems. So... which is the problem?
It's very boring, expecially driving, unlock the phone to use it to make a simple call or to open my garage door.
+1
Turn on smart lock -> trusted devices
craznazn said:
Turn on smart lock -> trusted devices
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This is not the solution... Is a workaround that I don't want to use for security reasons at work.
Don't use the screen lock.
Treat your phone like your hand and you don't need it.
Please reply with intelligent solution...
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Please reply with intelligent solution...
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I tried... for you, none.
You want security yet look what you're doing
Bank, g pay and other apps want security lock to function... So it's obvious that security lock screen need to be applied.
stefal639 said:
Bank, g pay and other apps want security lock to function... So it's obvious that security lock screen need to be applied.
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I see what you mean... sorry.
I don't use any of those apps and especially voice assistant. Bixby is even worse.
Try this:
How to Use Google Assistant Without Unlocking Your Android Phone
Google Assistant is a handy companion to have on your Android smartphone or tablet. To really get the most out of Assistant’s hands-free features, you’ll want to make sure it can work even when your device is locked.
www.google.com
blackhawk said:
I see what you mean... sorry.
I don't use any of those apps and especially voice assistant. Bixby is even worse.
Try this:
How to Use Google Assistant Without Unlocking Your Android Phone
Google Assistant is a handy companion to have on your Android smartphone or tablet. To really get the most out of Assistant’s hands-free features, you’ll want to make sure it can work even when your device is locked.
www.google.com
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It's yet activated...
stefal639 said:
It's yet activated...
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Try clearing Goggle Play Services data.
Clear system cache.
Try a network reset (can't hurt).
You may have to delete/recreate the account if nothing else works.
Play with it... eventually you'll get it working.
made it, also clean flash of last ota...seems that something goes wrong with assistant because the problem still stay here also before a clean install.
stefal639 said:
made it, also clean flash of last ota...seems that something goes wrong with assistant because the problem still stay here also before a clean install.
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Check permissions, notifications and make sure no power management is enabled.
Possible conflict with another app.
Lol, sounds like it's settings could be screwed up by default.
Try searching Google for the same issue even on different makes/models as you're no alone... someone has found the solution.
OK Google [to do that you need to unlock your phone] - Google Assistant Community
Seems that is a problem that appear randomly from 2 years (expecially on OP).
no solution from google
stefal639 said:
OK Google [to do that you need to unlock your phone] - Google Assistant Community
Seems that is a problem that appear randomly from 2 years (expecially on OP).
no solution from google
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You can try contacting Google tech support. Occasionally they can be quit helpful... if they choose to.
A Bing search etc may yield better results.
I really try to keep my use of Google apps to a bare bones minimum.
I don't trust them... they earned it.
here is how i solve similar problem that not exactly the same but when i ask google assistance to turn flashlight for example it ask to unlock the screen 1st
1-open google app and press MORE
2-setting
3-google assistant
4-personalization
and final check every toggle on that screen (personal result, lock screen, etc. )
that should not ask to unlock the screen again check and let me know how it gose
yosry said:
here is how i solve similar problem that not exactly the same but when i ask google assistance to turn flashlight for example it ask to unlock the screen 1st
1-open google app and press MORE
2-setting
3-google assistant
4-personalization
and final check every toggle on that screen (personal result, lock screen, etc. )
that should not ask to unlock the screen again check and let me know how it gose
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Still don't work
stefal639 said:
Still don't work
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Why it look different so you use custom rom
yosry said:
Why it look different so you use custom rom
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it's the latest OOS11, no custom rom. (italian language)
I am clueless did you did the voice match thing

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