I've been noticing some slight lag in unlocking, the screen coming on, etc on my new Note 4 from time to time. I've found that going in the app switcher thing and clearing all remedies the issue for a bit.
I was curious recently and looked at the RAM usage in that screen and was surprised to see that ~2.1GB of RAM was being used, even after clearing all recent apps.
Is it normal for the thing to be using over 2GB of RAM at all times? This seems very strange to me.
Thoughts?
rmp5s said:
I've been noticing some slight lag in unlocking, the screen coming on, etc on my new Note 4 from time to time. I've found that going in the app switcher thing and clearing all remedies the issue for a bit.
I was curious recently and looked at the RAM usage in that screen and was surprised to see that ~2.1GB of RAM was being used, even after clearing all recent apps.
Is it normal for the thing to be using over 2GB of RAM at all times? This seems very strange to me.
Thoughts?
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I'm pretty sure its normal because mine is also using 2GB after clearing all. After a reboot, it dropped to 1.6GB before manually launching any application. I'm pretty sure Android is designed this way.
The way android is made and runs, it uses almost all RAM at all times... Basically "unused RAM is wasted RAM." All of our phones have run this way since the time of I'm.
Now, with respect to lag, that's all the bloatware forcing itself to be the main process or close to it. Only way is to fully delete (not only disable) all of them and their underlying processes.
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greekunit690 said:
The way android is made and runs, it uses almost all RAM at all times... Basically "unused RAM is wasted RAM." All of our phones have run this way since the time of I'm.
Now, with respect to lag, that's all the bloatware forcing itself to be the main process or close to it. Only way is to fully delete (not only disable) all of them and their underlying processes.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A
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Thanks for the replies, guys. Just waiting on root, then bloatware will be gone.
greekunit690 said:
The way android is made and runs, it uses almost all RAM at all times... Basically "unused RAM is wasted RAM." All of our phones have run this way since the time of I'm.
Now, with respect to lag, that's all the bloatware forcing itself to be the main process or close to it. Only way is to fully delete (not only disable) all of them and their underlying processes.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A
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Well said..
Only time I have lag on the lockscreen is with a sub par sd card. Once I got rid of that junker the lag went away. Try removing your SD card and see if that fixes the lag.
I upgraded to MM 26A and the memory usage is insane. 2.8GB used and only 508MB Free. I'm sick of this. I don't even game!I listen to music, watch YouTube and check my forums via Opera Browser so what's going on...
I wouldn't worry too much about it. Apps keeps running in the backgroud, so in case you re-open them they don't have to be reloaded. In case RAM is needed, Android selects some apps to kick out at that point in time and closes them. So your RAM will almost always be about 80% used to reduce having to reload apps (which is also done to conserve battery, since reloading apps also costs energy).
Hi All,
Anybody here with the same issue ?
Looks like a software issue/touch unresponsive issue because usually I find it coming back to normal once I press power button and unlock it again.
Sounds like RAM allocation issue, isn't ?
Thinking to sell it. Please suggest if you guys know a better way to deal with it !
Even if I go to SC, I cannot reproduce the issue at that particular time. They will just reset it and give me back, and that where I don't want to waste my time.
Does this looks fruitful to flash stock firmware again by the unbrick way ? I feel like that will be me last try.
You seem new here, so welcome on xda
One thing you should keep in mind is to be as precise as possible when presenting an issue, your description right now is not very clear, by the title it sounded like your phone actually froze, which could have been a ram or even a power management issue, but after reading your post it seems more likely that your display was wet, or that you were charging your phone, capacitive touchscreens are sensible to that.
Usually a frozen phone does not respond to the power button like yours did, and a ram issue seems very unlikely tbh
CriGiu said:
You seem new here, so welcome on xda
One thing you should keep in mind is to be as precise as possible when presenting an issue, your description right now is not very clear, by the title it sounded like your phone actually froze, which could have been a ram or even a power management issue, but after reading your post it seems more likely that your display was wet, or that you were charging your phone, capacitive touchscreens are sensible to that.
Usually a frozen phone does not respond to the power button like yours did, and a ram issue seems very unlikely tbh
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My style of using I believe is the same and I had no such issues in my Cool 1 ever in an year. Was a lot better in every way. Picked it up because I loved the looks, but have lost my trust on Huawei. They really need a lot of improvement.
i am having the same issues as the OP (Although i don't know what he means by "going to the SC")
the phone just goes through moments of extreme lag for about 10-30 seconds, sometimes longer, and it makes the phone COMPLETELY unusable during those times. it happens at least once every other day or so, sometimes several times a day, and sometimes it only lasts about 10 seconds, although on a few occasions, it has lasted several minutes, the phone will "attempt" to respond to inputs, but it gets nowhere quick, opening apps i did not click on, closing apps that weren't open, black-screening, half-screening (app on half the screen), etc.. sometimes i have to just power cycle..
i have the exact same feeling as the OP in that i want to sell the phone. (although i type much better, i'll assume english is a second language for him/her)
i like EMUI a lot.. although i think i want a galaxy s8/s9 now.
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Tirken said:
i am having the same issues as the OP (Although i don't know what he means by "going to the SC")
the phone just goes through moments of extreme lag for about 10-30 seconds, sometimes longer, and it makes the phone COMPLETELY unusable during those times. it happens at least once every other day or so, sometimes several times a day, and sometimes it only lasts about 10 seconds, although on a few occasions, it has lasted several minutes, the phone will "attempt" to respond to inputs, but it gets nowhere quick, opening apps i did not click on, closing apps that weren't open, black-screening, half-screening (app on half the screen), etc.. sometimes i have to just power cycle..
i have the exact same feeling as the OP in that i want to sell the phone. (although i type much better, i'll assume english is a second language for him/her)
i like EMUI a lot.. although i think i want a galaxy s8/s9 now.
BND-L24 HONOR 7X B140 no root
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Since yours is the us variant, I'm assuming you've got 3 gb of ram instead of 4 gb, in which case a ram issue seems much more likely.
Not much of an issue actually, just that you probably had lots of apps open at the same time, leading to almost full ram (so the system starts closing background and even foreground apps if needed, leading to the strange behaviour you noticed).
Just remember to close apps you don't use and you'll be fine
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Just remember to close apps you don't use and you'll be fine
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It's 2018 and I think the OP and I know how smartphones work. I am coming from a phone with 2GB RAM and it has no such issues, no matter how many apps and/or games are open. Google explicitly states that closing background apps is unnecessary, and I should think EMUI offers an improvement over stock Android, not a detrimental experience. However, if you are correct and it is the RAM, it is not acceptable and needs to be fixed or I'm buying a new phone from a different company. In today's world, phones will open links to Chrome and from Chrome open reddit, xda app, pinterest, link to Facebook, share to Twitter, etc etc.. every time I click on a button I should not be having to back track to make sure I only have a certain amount of apps open. Nougat limits max open apps to 20 BTW, marshmallow it was 30.. But RAM management CPU management should be better. If it's of any interest, my reported "free" ram always stays at or above 1-1.5GB so I don't think its ram.. CPU or software problem, possibly.. But my Temps are good as well. Yes it's the 3GB version
Just a quick thought of something you could check (I also have the US 3GB version and was experiencing the same issue). Open up Settings > Battery, and other the "Other" section click "Consumption". See if there's any apps there that are keeping the phone awake and preventing it from sleeping. I would get constant lag after only a few hours of use, and it was intermittent just like you're experiencing. I was about to send the phone back, but checked this setting first. Turns out, the CNN app was running the CPU at nearly 100% for hours on end and preventing the phone from deep sleeping. Once I uninstalled that app, I haven't had issues since then. Could be something similar, just a thought. YMMV.
And by the way, it's NOT the ram. 3GB is plenty. You can see how much is being used on the app select screen, and I've never used more than 1.5 with a ton of apps in the background.
Let me help you there guys....i got the US variant too and has these freezing and lags all over the place, what i discover and did was:
1- Not all the apps works well with the phone hardware(they told me that somewhere) so try to test the apps you put on the phone.
2-Delete all the unnecessary apps from emui, that will give you less lag.
3-Check the battery consuming apps like the guy said and if you want turn on the close apps on screen lock.
Now after all of these my phone have been moving better but the problem isnt the ram, is the software so wait a little more so they can fix this cause is really a good value phone
It has to be the RAM management. Huawei must have optimized the software for 4GB, and then released a US 3GB version without changing anything, so it's screwed up even though phone is showing lots of free RAM.
Wao man thats the best explanation for this problem thanks man
It isn't and never was a RAM thing. Android's memory management essentially force closes apps (but shows them in recents) if it needs more memory. Note there is no work involved in that and you'd never know it until you switch apps and it has to reload, shows logo, etc. Amazing how non-solutions we're brought up multiple times and even thanked. Insert that's-not-how-any-of-this-works meme.
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It isn't and never was a RAM thing. Android's memory management essentially force closes apps (but shows them in recents) if it needs more memory. Note there is no work involved in that and you'd never know it until you switch apps and it has to reload, shows logo, etc. Amazing how non-solutions we're brought up multiple times and even thanked. Insert that's-not-how-any-of-this-works meme.
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Well, yeah, ram issues nowadays should not be present, but I do speak on a basis, I have experienced bad performance and foreground apps getting killed on a nexus 5, which has 2 gb of ram and stock android. I have no idea what's emui's ram management policy, but on a scale, this would be the least likely cause for sure
Phone is the 6GB RAM 64 GB storage version.
For the last couple of weeks it slowed down to a crawl when it comes to launching apps. For instance it takes 18 seconds!, I timed it, to open Skype on my phone. Other apps also open very slowly. Once they are opened and kept in memory they are re-opened instantaneously so the problem is only when launching the apps the first time.
There is about 2.8GB RAM available, only 35% of storage space is used so there is no reason why the phone should run so slowly.
I have upgraded to Oxygen 5.0.4 but no change.
If I run it in safe mode I can't check if it's slow or not because no user apps are available.
I have cleared Cache and Dalvik cache repeatedly to no avail.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Does this also happen on newly installed apps? It could have something to do with the ART optimisations on app launch but you experience it every time you open it from scratch?
1. your phone is fake or defective
2. you have installed some battery saver apps
3. you have flashed some custom kernels
I have used OP5T for over a month and I have to say, it's the fastest phone ever I have till now, before OP5T I got S7E, NoteFE, Mate 9 and IMO Mate 9 is really fast with Kirin 960 but OP5T is better and smoother than Mate 9 in many aspects. The things I missed so much from Mate9 are Sdcard and extremely long battery, the rest are fine for me on OP5T.
SOLVED.
It was an application called ProtectMyPrivacy, PMP for short. If I don't start it after rebooting for some strange reason it slows the phone down incredibly. It's a very useful application, it blocks all the sleazy apps form accessing, unbeknownst to the user, things like Phone Unique ID, Contacts reading, Calendar reading, Fine Grained Location, Mac address, etc. It's crazy how bundled apps we aren't even aware run in the background collecting all sorts of information and sending them to who knows where. Apps like AdMob, Flurry, AppBrain, AppsFlyer, InmobiFabric, Hockey App, etc. that are part of a regular app that we download but we have no idea they are bundled in. Sleazebags.
Anyway, PMP blocks all these bastards from spying on the phone but I need to start PMP manually every time I reboot the phone. I sent an message to the developer, SynergyLabs at Cornegie University, to let them know about the issue.
Been a long time greenify user and I just flashed crDroid recently though I turned the battery manager off as it might interfere with greenify. Has anyone tried using the both together? Standby drain seems to have increased in pie and I was thinking if the battery manager would help (and not cause noticeable inconveniences such as delays in notifications).
I'm also on cr droid and that is kind of an double edged sword. I would certainly suggest not use both. And battery manager is also a reported bug in pie. But ram management is the whole point of pie and supposedly the biggest improvement. Some builds of cr droid I got 1 hour screen time and others I get 9-10. I think pie changed so much it's still an infant and I can also say that I'm a long term greenfly user and stopped using it on pie. It wasn't helping because the point of phones with 8 gigs of ram and background ram management is to leave processes open and let android idle them. So constantly killing background processes and reinstatement when the screen turns back off is way more taxing on the CPU. And I have honestly found the best results by using neither. Greenify used to be a must have but I believe its no longer needed