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It's a 3500mAh extended battery.
I put it on the charger and it doesn't charge, the charging light just flashes and battery monitor widget just shows it discharge until it hits zero and then it charges up to 100% really fast (but it doesn't get a good charge, since reading feeds for 30 min took it down to 60%)
Last time I fixed this by bump charging with the phone off and then it lasted for a week or so pretty good.
Well it did it again last night, so I tried bump charging and resetting battery stats. After reboot it fell to 85% pretty fast.
Another odd thing it's done is it will be at like 65% and then after a reboot it will sit at 1% for the rest of the day until the battery dies. Pulling the battery out and putting it back in fixes this.
Is this just a crappy battery or is something up with the phone's charging circuits?
What rom/kernel are you on?
I have the 3500 battery, too, and I'll go from 100% to 90% pretty quickly. Calibrated twice, too. I figure that's just an issue with the nonlinear (or at least different voltage curve trends from 100%-0%) voltage output of the extended battery.
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ACS 1.1.0 don't know if that's related though.
What worries me more is the not charging issue.
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Have you tried calibrating it and clearing your batt stats in CWM?
Do you BONSAI?
Tried clearing batt stats a couple times... Now when the phone restarts, it thinks that the % is really low even for the STOCK battery...
Been sitting at 16% for 3 hours with use. (was 55% before reboot)
orb360 said:
Tried clearing batt stats a couple times... Now when the phone restarts, it thinks that the % is really low even for the STOCK battery...
Been sitting at 16% for 3 hours with use. (was 55% before reboot)
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What were the conditions when you cleared the stats? You need to either fully charge the battery on and external charger or when the phone is off. Then boot into CWM and clear the stats.
Do you BONSAI?
Hi, sry for my english=(
When i charge my battery its normally charge to 80% and then becomes 100%.
Try calibrate battery but this doesnt help. Also try another roms and kernels.
Is it a battery issue?
U can buy new battery from DEALEXTREME.com
so its the only way?
Try this.
Charge battery to full. Leave plugged in, Turn off fastboot in power settings and shut phone off. Light will turn orange again and let it charge til green. Boot into recovery and wipe battery stats. After this let the battery drain as low as 10% before recharging to full without unplugging. Do this a few times over a few days. If you don't get more accurate percentages after this then the battery could be messed up.
Gizmoe said:
Try this.
Charge battery to full. Leave plugged in, Turn off fastboot in power settings and shut phone off. Light will turn orange again and let it charge til green. Boot into recovery and wipe battery stats. After this let the battery drain as low as 10% before recharging to full without unplugging. Do this a few times over a few days. If you don't get more accurate percentages after this then the battery could be messed up.
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thx i will try.
i have the exact same issue. i have done battery stat wipe..flashed multiple roms over and over with full wipe and all that. battery charges up to 80% then the LED turns green..and stays that way till it reaches 100%. it jumps from 80% to 100% in just a few minutes.
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I wouldn't worry Lendlord mine does the same (see attached pic) you can see the green line jumps up from 80 to 100 but doesn't jump down from 100 to 80 under use. The picture is taken from Battery monitor widget, it's a great app which shows mv, ma, % and temp and even keeps a text log of what ma drain there has been allowing you to monitor battery drain while you're using your phone or while it is sleeping.
Here's a great guide aswell of how to ensure best battery life by memnoc:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226016
so thats mean that some battaries have the same issue=( And there is no solution for it...
HTC failed again...
first GPS and now the battery. Bad, very bad!
And one more request.
Can someone post your current widget log?
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so thats mean that some battaries have the same issue=( And there is no solution for it...
HTC failed again...
first GPS and now the battery. Bad, very bad!
And one more request.
Can someone post your current widget log?
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I have the same thing happen to mine, i think its because you've let your DHD die due to low battery levels and that damages the battery which i think causes this problem
..letting the phone shut off because of a completely discharged battery is NOT good for the lifetime of Li-ION batteries.
The battery could be hurt and the amount of mAh the battery is able to store might be lower after.
Also trying to 'pump' the battery to fully charge by connecting / disconnecting while the phone is down is not a good advice because li-ion batteries also don't like overcharging.
To be sure that the battery is fully charged due to its ability it is sufficient to let the phone be conectet to charger or usb overnight.
Android uses the voltage of the battery to estimate (!) the % charge value.
Android supposes the battery is fully charged when it enters the voltage of about 4.2 Volt which is the charging cut-off voltage for li-ion cells.
Now when charging again the conceded voltage is reached more quickly than estimated by android, so the system is 'surprised' of this rapid charge and changes the % value to 100% because the conceded voltage is reached more quicklyy as supposed.
(Try to fill a 0.5ltr beer bottle into a 0.33 glass)
This is the normal of aging for li-ion batteries.
Consider for yourself if it's acceptable for you or if you should by a new battery.
by the way... be careful with cheap china batteries for 10$.
Offers with exaggerated values (up to 1600mAh) will mostly keep their promises
only for the first two or three charges only and will than fall back to 800 mAh or even less !
Greetz
Pudel
Yeah...
My battery started to do the same thing for a week or two. It will charge to 86% then it jumps to 100%, saying it's charged.
This is normal afaik, nothing to worry about.
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solve
actually，it's the problem of your rom , in the framwork.apk . unzip it you will get a lot of battery icon form 1%to 100% in the res file ，if it made mistake，that 'your problem. you can go to uot kitchen to coustom it again.
Nope!
I've solved my problem. I've bought a new (original) htc battery, and the new one works great. I haven't reflashed the rom, or made any new modification. Just added the new battery.
So, yes, it's a faulty battery.
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Hi, sry for my english=(
When i charge my battery its normally charge to 80% and then becomes 100%.
Try calibrate battery but this doesnt help. Also try another roms and kernels.
Is it a battery issue?
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Download Current widget from market and charge ur phone then wait for the 0 ma then download the battery calibration app from market too and calibrate and unplug ur phone, u can aslo reboot to recovery and wipe battery stats hope it helped you
I bought a new battery today, a Chinese knock-off battery which claims to have a capacity over 2000. I live in Mongolia, so that's basically my only option if I want a replacement battery, since there's basically no postal system here.
When I first put in the battery, it showed a 59% charge. After a few minutes and maybe a reboot, it showed a 20% charge. It consistently drained down to zero, and I'm charging it now.
I've experienced really strange battery drain with the former battery (also a Chinese knock-off) where it loses maybe 10 percent an hour on idle, so I figured the battery needs to be replaced. Is there anything I can do to calibrate it? I have a feeling that the charge is actually more than is being shown, but no way to confirm my suspicions. Am I right just to try to charge it to 100% and discharge it to 0% until the battery life gets better, or is there something else to do? I should mention I've tried resetting the battery stats in CWM with no real effect.
Thanks from Mongolia.
Go into recovery when battery is at 100% and go to advanced then clear battery stats or download battery config for rooted devices and clear battery stats that way.
Nelinski said:
Go into recovery when battery is at 100% and go to advanced then clear battery stats or download battery config for rooted devices and clear battery stats that way.
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Clearing battery stats achieves nothing other than deleting the stats on the what has been using battery power. Battery calibration isn't required on our phones.
duraaraa said:
I bought a new battery today, a Chinese knock-off battery which claims to have a capacity over 2000. I live in Mongolia, so that's basically my only option if I want a replacement battery, since there's basically no postal system here.
When I first put in the battery, it showed a 59% charge. After a few minutes and maybe a reboot, it showed a 20% charge. It consistently drained down to zero, and I'm charging it now.
I've experienced really strange battery drain with the former battery (also a Chinese knock-off) where it loses maybe 10 percent an hour on idle, so I figured the battery needs to be replaced. Is there anything I can do to calibrate it? I have a feeling that the charge is actually more than is being shown, but no way to confirm my suspicions. Am I right just to try to charge it to 100% and discharge it to 0% until the battery life gets better, or is there something else to do? I should mention I've tried resetting the battery stats in CWM with no real effect.
Thanks from Mongolia.
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if you want to increase battery life for your new battery, charge it fully to 100% whenever you charge it will increase charge storing capacity of the battery
duraaraa said:
I bought a new battery today, a Chinese knock-off battery which claims to have a capacity over 2000. I live in Mongolia, so that's basically my only option if I want a replacement battery, since there's basically no postal system here.
When I first put in the battery, it showed a 59% charge. After a few minutes and maybe a reboot, it showed a 20% charge. It consistently drained down to zero, and I'm charging it now.
I've experienced really strange battery drain with the former battery (also a Chinese knock-off) where it loses maybe 10 percent an hour on idle, so I figured the battery needs to be replaced. Is there anything I can do to calibrate it? I have a feeling that the charge is actually more than is being shown, but no way to confirm my suspicions. Am I right just to try to charge it to 100% and discharge it to 0% until the battery life gets better, or is there something else to do? I should mention I've tried resetting the battery stats in CWM with no real effect.
Thanks from Mongolia.
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See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312273
Never, ever I repeat never let your battery drop below around 5%, and always charge it before it reaches zero. I use the Guage Battery widget v3 pro as it is very accurate, but you can also get the free version. You can & should use the free battery calibration tool from the Google play store, simply install it & charge the battery to 100% then run the calibration App. simples
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I've noticed that my 2 XL battery drains very fast after full charge, but then settles to acceptable drain rates from about 90%. I'd say it takes less than an hour to drop from 100 to 90% without basically any use. Often I can't even hit 100% when charging. More like 99/98% max. If it does charge to 100%, it stays there for a couple minutes tops, even if just on standby. Which leads me to my next issue...
This prompted me to calibrate my battery which seemed to help somewhat, but I found that I cannot monitor the charge rate when charging while the device is turned off. What is shown is just what "looks like" a full battery charged icon at all times, and the screen does not dim at any point during charge. It actually seems that the phone is frozen during charging when turned off, and needs a very long power button press to turn the phone on. I actually have two Pixel 2 XLs in front of me and they both do this! Is this a known issue?
In general I am getting 5-6 hours screen-on time per charge which seems about right from what I've read. But that initial fast drain and "freezing" while charging when turned off is puzzling. Any common experiences or insight?
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I've noticed that my 2 XL battery drains very fast after full charge, but then settles to acceptable drain rates from about 90%. I'd say it takes less than an hour to drop from 100 to 90% without basically any use. Often I can't even hit 100% when charging. More like 99/98% max. If it does charge to 100%, it stays there for a couple minutes tops, even if just on standby. Which leads me to my next issue...
This prompted me to calibrate my battery which seemed to help somewhat, but I found that I cannot monitor the charge rate when charging while the device is turned off. What is shown is just what "looks like" a full battery charged icon at all times, and the screen does not dim at any point during charge. It actually seems that the phone is frozen during charging when turned off, and needs a very long power button press to turn the phone on. I actually have two Pixel 2 XLs in front of me and they both do this! Is this a known issue?
In general I am getting 5-6 hours screen-on time per charge which seems about right from what I've read. But that initial fast drain and "freezing" while charging when turned off is puzzling. Any common experiences or insight?
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It may be that the battery is not fully charged when the phone is telling you it is 100%. When using Accubattery to manually benchmark the battery, I found that my phones were still taking a low charge current (as measured by AB) for 45 minutes to sometimes even one hour after the phone was reading 100%. AB will register 100% when the phone's charging circuit cuts off to zero (and notify you). Using AB for a while will also give you a very close approximation of the remaining capacity of your battery relative to a new battery. When my 2XL was new, I was getting just over 100% (~103%). A year later, it is in the high 90's.
Thanks for the tip on Accubattery. I am going to give that a try for a while. So have you been charging up to 100% regularly in spite of what's recommended by this app?
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Thanks for the tip on Accubattery. I am going to give that a try for a while. So have you been charging up to 100% regularly in spite of what's recommended by this app?
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Yes, I turn the 80% alarm crap off and leave it on the charger all night. It is fully charged before I go to bed but I leave it on the charger all night. I use AB for bench marking my battery's capacity and it's real good at that... if you start from when AB says your battery is full. You will see it converge to a % capacity after only 2-3 full discharges. I'm just guessing but I think you are not completely filling the battery to it's full capacity. At least using AB for a while will a) provide you with your battery's true capacity wrt a new battery, and b) will rule out you not charging up fully as your mystery 100-90% quick-drop. Please do report back. :good:
Hi all,
occasionally I see my 7 months old Pixel 3a XL can't hold battery power from 11% down. Switches off very fast, abnormally fast. Then if I power it and start it then keeps on restarting until battery level is higher than 5-6%
I use the original charger only. Sometimes it appears, some it does not and I can see it discharges as expected.
I try to keep my battery within 40-100% full and discharge it very rarely to 0%.
Anyone facing those abnormalities? Can't think of connected events - updates, etc ....
Cheers
p.s. after last night happening again, charged the phone from 0% to 86% (phone was off during charge), turned on on 86% and left over night on the shelf. Usually drains 2-3%, this morning it dropped from 86% to 62%. All connections off, nothing unusual shown in the battery usage stats...
TodNex said:
Hi all,
occasionally I see my 7 months old Pixel 3a XL can't hold battery power from 11% down. Switches off very fast, abnormally fast. Then if I power it and start it then keeps on restarting until battery level is higher than 5-6%
I use the original charger only. Sometimes it appears, some it does not and I can see it discharges as expected.
I try to keep my battery within 40-100% full and discharge it very rarely to 0%.
Anyone facing those abnormalities? Can't think of connected events - updates, etc ....
Cheers
p.s. after last night happening again, charged the phone from 0% to 86% (phone was off during charge), turned on on 86% and left over night on the shelf. Usually drains 2-3%, this morning it dropped from 86% to 62%. All connections off, nothing unusual shown in the battery usage stats...
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That's pretty weird
My 3a xl (about the same age as yours) doesn't use more than 10% max when left overnight. Are you using AOD or anything?
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@Skittles9823 nothing beside stock Android and apps that I've used forever. Strange is that it's occasional - also occassional is initial drain from 100% to 92%.
Maybe its time to flash it - nothing suspicious is shown in batt stats
I use the fast charger that came with it. Not sure how it affects battery life long term. I try to keep it 100% to 40% usually and not charge it if not necessary..
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@Skittles9823
I use the fast charger that came with it. Not sure how it affects battery life long term. I try to keep it 100% to 40% usually and not charge it if not necessary..
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I think popular wisdom is that both fast charging and in particular charging to 100% are not kind to the battery's longivety. Divided opinion about the effect of discharging to low percentages. Personally I charge to between 70 and 80% unless I know I'm going to need more capacity. 3a XL has a bigish battery, which helps. I recharge most nights but only to 70-80%. End of day I usually end up between high 40's and low 30's charge.
I manually set all apps I don't actually need to run in background to 'restricted' background use.
I charge mine up to a 100% often, when using it heavy.. I never heard of charging a battery to 100% being bad for it, unless you believe everything that is told or should I say sold to you.. Sounds like a faulty battery. If still under the 1 yr usual warranty I would have it replaced. I have drained mine down to less than 20% and still never experience any issue that OP state.
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I never heard of charging a battery to 100% being bad for it
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Some research references in here
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...-Cycle-Life-Modeling-of-Lithium-Ion-Batteries
Also Apple have actually introduced a feature to stop/postpone 100% charging when the phone thinks it's not required. Would be good if we had similar/more control for Android.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512
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Some research references in here
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210224725-Charging-research-and-methodology
https://accubattery.zendesk.com/hc/...-Cycle-Life-Modeling-of-Lithium-Ion-Batteries
Also Apple have actually introduced a feature to stop/postpone 100% charging when the phone thinks it's not required. Would be good if we had similar/more control for Android.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512
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I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
doubledragon5 said:
I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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It's actually true. Lithium Ion batters degrade over time, the speed of which, depends on the amount of battery cycles they go through (0-100% and vice versa). Others have done the research and the math and found that generally a 20% to 80% and vice versa charge seems to be the best for longevity.
Personally I charge to 100 but try to charge my phone when it gets to 20-30%.
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I'm still not sold on the idea that charging a battery to 100% is bad.. But thanks for those links.
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Evidence and research is there. Of course you don't have to believe it. It's your phone, your battery, your money
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Evidence and research is there. Of course you don't have to believe it. It's your phone, your battery, your money
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So very true my phone my money. In all my years of using cell phones, I think I have actually replaced a battery once because it went bad.
Thank you all for the links and the inputs!
One more symptom - when is very low like this morning - 1% and put it in charger - phone shuts off.
I will keep the battery in 40-80% for the future and limit the drain below 40%. I tried to charge it slow with USB - took me like 6-7 hours...
How long it takes you from zero to 100% with the stock charger - looks very fast to me - 0% to 67% in 35 mins
I personally tried to research and could not find what is worse for these batteries - number of cycles (obvious less when used below 40%) or the low capacity usage ?
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Thank you all for the links and the inputs!
One more symptom - when is very low like this morning - 1% and put it in charger - phone shuts off.
I will keep the battery in 40-80% for the future and limit the drain below 40%. I tried to charge it slow with USB - took me like 6-7 hours...
How long it takes you from zero to 100% with the stock charger - looks very fast to me - 0% to 67% in 35 mins
I personally tried to research and could not find what is worse for these batteries - number of cycles (obvious less when used below 40%) or the low capacity usage ?
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The included charger is a fast charger, good for headlining how fast it charges, not so great for the battery. I just use a 'standard' (Anker) USB charger.
Jury's out on if deeper discharge is bad, but it's the number of complete cycles (0-100% counting as 1). So 40 - 80% is 0.4 of a full cycle, and you're not stressing the battery so much by taking it to 100%. Many folk here replace their phones frequently enough not to be bothered by all this - if they sell it when 20% of the battery capacity's gone, that's fine.
I've observed the behaviour and few things made me question myself...one time I can see 13% battery and palying Youtube just shutdown the phone. Put it into charger and started showing 4% as initial charge.
There was another time when using Viber video shutdown in 23% but can be overheat or software bug.
I try to keep it these days above 40% charge but still use the supplied charger till I buy new slower one.
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I've observed the behaviour and few things made me question myself...one time I can see 13% battery and palying Youtube just shutdown the phone. Put it into charger and started showing 4% as initial charge.
There was another time when using Viber video shutdown in 23% but can be overheat or software bug.
I try to keep it these days above 40% charge but still use the supplied charger till I buy new slower one.
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The good news is that this phone seems to be pretty easy to repair and a battery replacement could very well be a good option for you, especially since you wouldn't be compromising any water resistance or anything