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Has anyone had any experience with the G3's hotspot rooted or non-rooted? Any experience with signals or stability would be greatly appreciated.
A little sob story background: I live in a neighborhood that the Teleco companies have completely neglected. Even though I live in america I only have dial up. Our phones get the very Edge of sprint's LTE network but I'm running a Galaxy S2 with Wimax (which wonderful sprint discontinued a month after I bought the phone) So our only means of internet is a 3G and what little LTE my family can pick up with their various phones. I'm a gamer so I'd like to be brought into the highspeed age finally. Hotspot reliability will make or break buying the LG G3 and I'd love to get a little feedback of what to expect.
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Has anyone had any experience with the G3's hotspot rooted or non-rooted? Any experience with signals or stability would be greatly appreciated.
A little sob story background: I live in a neighborhood that the Teleco companies have completely neglected. Even though I live in america I only have dial up. Our phones get the very Edge of sprint's LTE network but I'm running a Galaxy S2 with Wimax (which wonderful sprint discontinued a month after I bought the phone) So our only means of internet is a 3G and what little LTE my family can pick up with their various phones. I'm a gamer so I'd like to be brought into the highspeed age finally. Hotspot reliability will make or break buying the LG G3 and I'd love to get a little feedback of what to expect.
Thanks!
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Works just the same as any other device for me, been using it a lot for my chromebook had no dropouts or issues.
Would I be able to use this phone as a hotspot out of the box like I can with my Nexus 5 or would I have to go through my carrier for that? I use my Nexus 5 as a hotspot for my Nexus 7 when I'm out and about. I wouldn't want to have to start paying monthly for that function.
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Would I be able to use this phone as a hotspot out of the box like I can with my Nexus 5 or would I have to go through my carrier for that? I use my Nexus 5 as a hotspot for my Nexus 7 when I'm out and about. I wouldn't want to have to start paying monthly for that function.
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Should work out of the box like any android phone
Are you Verizon unlimited, and that's why you're asking? If you just need something, what about FreedomPop? I know, I know - sleazy company - but they're wedded to Sprint's LTE/WiMax exsting network (if you're close), and you might be able to rig an antenna/amp to pull in that LTE. It's what I do to get V (and formerly AT&T) in my basement.
I'm keeping an eye on this thread, too, as I'm curious. I've got a JB iPhone to get the hotspot and keep my unlimited. I actually use the hotspot about once every 2-3 months, and usually for less than 1/4 of my phone-only data, so it galls me to consider adding ~$500/yr for those couple times I need a sip of data when I'm on the road. I'll be switching to the G3 as soon as its released, and seeing how it's like on the android side of things.
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Should work out of the box like any android phone
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But does every phone work out of the box with tethering? I'm on T-Mobile with an older unlimited data plan, if that helps.
Coming from a Nexus 4 and 5, tethering was always an option in the settings. My concern is whether or not it's still an option in a skinned version of Android or will I need to add tethering to my plan and use a T-Mobile branded app?
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But does every phone work out of the box with tethering? I'm on T-Mobile with an older unlimited data plan, if that helps.
Coming from a Nexus 4 and 5, tethering was always an option in the settings. My concern is whether or not it's still an option in a skinned version of Android or will I need to add tethering to my plan and use a T-Mobile branded app?
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Some of T-Mobile's older unlimited plans don't like you using wifi tethering. I'm on an older unlimited and once in a while I get a webpage telling me to upgrade my plan. I'm currently using an HTC Sensation though and thinking of getting the G3.
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Are you Verizon unlimited, and that's why you're asking? If you just need something, what about FreedomPop? I know, I know - sleazy company - but they're wedded to Sprint's LTE/WiMax exsting network (if you're close), and you might be able to rig an antenna/amp to pull in that LTE. It's what I do to get V (and formerly AT&T) in my basement.
I'm keeping an eye on this thread, too, as I'm curious. I've got a JB iPhone to get the hotspot and keep my unlimited. I actually use the hotspot about once every 2-3 months, and usually for less than 1/4 of my phone-only data, so it galls me to consider adding ~$500/yr for those couple times I need a sip of data when I'm on the road. I'll be switching to the G3 as soon as its released, and seeing how it's like on the android side of things.
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Does freedom pop have true unlimited? No hidden data charges and all the data I can handle? I've used about 30gb in the last month on my 3G connection and probably another 20GB in the last 4 days on my mother's LTE. This is using Sprint's unlimited data plan. I burn through the GB and 5-10gb a month just wouldn't do.
EDIT: Just checked and no Freedom pop doesn't Calculating the data charges for my current useage would cost me about $2000 a month. No thanks.
sykozylot said:
Some of T-Mobile's older unlimited plans don't like you using wifi tethering. I'm on an older unlimited and once in a while I get a webpage telling me to upgrade my plan. I'm currently using an HTC Sensation though and thinking of getting the G3.
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This is why I need to know how native tethering works on a G3.
Tethering is the same as any other android phone. The G3 supports wifi, blue tooth and USB tethering. How this works with US versions of the phone I dont know. In the UK tethering is monitored and controlled by the network not the phone, so the phone still has the capability. If you have a plan that allows tethering, and you dont have a crippled version of the phone there's no difference, its just like any other android phone.
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Tethering is the same as any other android phone. The G3 supports wifi, blue tooth and USB tethering. How this works with US versions of the phone I dont know. In the UK tethering is monitored and controlled by the network not the phone, so the phone still has the capability. If you have a plan that allows tethering, and you dont have a crippled version of the phone there's no difference, its just like any other android phone.
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So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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What provider are you using?
partylikeaninjastar said:
So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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Unless your using some carried modified version of the G3 it should be under the settings menu as "tethering & networks"
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So you're saying the ability to turn the G3 into a hotspot can be found in the settings menu?
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Yes, that's correct.
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Does freedom pop have true unlimited? No hidden data charges and all the data I can handle? I've used about 30gb in the last month on my 3G connection and probably another 20GB in the last 4 days on my mother's LTE. This is using Sprint's unlimited data plan. I burn through the GB and 5-10gb a month just wouldn't do.
EDIT: Just checked and no Freedom pop doesn't Calculating the data charges for my current useage would cost me about $2000 a month. No thanks.
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Damn, that's serious (mobile) data! No, FP would be just to get you connected, not an all-you-can-eat buffet. (I used it as backup on the road, but their coverage around me sucked)
What is everyone's thoughts on whether there will be a way to turn on the wifi hotspot on phones that are on a grandfathered VZW Unlimited Data Plan? I think I remember hearing that one of the Nexus phones the hotspot worked out of the box without any special app's (Foxfi) or root. Thoughts?
6p works unlocked, running stock.
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I can confirm that the Nexus 6p, out of the box, will run the wifi hotspot on VZW UDP, on both 6.1 and 7.0.
I can also confirm that the Nexus 5x, out of the box will NOT run wifi hotspot on VZW UPD, without rooting and modifying build.prop (easy to do if you are bootloader unlocked).
Reports are that bootloader will be locked on Pixel for phones sold by VZW. I'm not very optimistic that wifi tether will work
I have an upgrade on VZW - which I wanted to use for Pixel, but might have to buy Pixel (or iPhone?) and trade/sell to get an unlocked Pixel, which should be bootloader unlocked, but probably won't have VZW wifi calling available.
I have one on order from Verizon and that's the first thing I'm going to try. If not I'm returning it. The Verizon Bloatware is removable so I hope it's not baked in.
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I can confirm that the Nexus 6p, out of the box, will run the wifi hotspot on VZW UDP, on both 6.1 and 7.0.
I can also confirm that the Nexus 5x, out of the box will NOT run wifi hotspot on VZW UPD, without rooting and modifying build.prop (easy to do if you are bootloader unlocked).
Reports are that bootloader will be locked on Pixel for phones sold by VZW. I'm not very optimistic that wifi tether will work
I have an upgrade on VZW - which I wanted to use for Pixel, but might have to buy Pixel (or iPhone?) and trade/sell to get an unlocked Pixel, which should be bootloader unlocked, but probably won't have VZW wifi calling available.
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The wifi calling and verizon features should work on the unlocked pixel, just as the features worked on the unlocked Motorola Nexus 6 because verizon sold their version of the Nexus 6 so it should be safe to say the unlocked pixel will work 100% as designed to and on verizon also. Google lists the Unlocked pixel works on all 4 major carriers they never listed that for the Nexus 6p I believe, so them listing it will work on all four carriers should tell you otherwise they would have to list that there may be features that will not work on some of those four major carriers. I would have to say 100% by that that everything all verizon features should work on the unlocked pixel being used on the verizon service, just as they do on the verizon version of the pixel and pixel xl.
Thanks for the replies... My wife and I fell into the Note 7 debacle so we are trying to decide if we are going to tempt fate with the "safe" Note 7's or switch to a different phone and the Pixel caught my eye and something that might be worth having. So, aside from how the reviews end up, I have to have the wifi hotspot since our phones are our only access to the internet in the area we live.
Thanks again!
i have ULD with Verizon as well. i preordered today, when the phone arrives i will definitely post my results as well!
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i have ULD with Verizon as well. i preordered today, when the phone arrives i will definitely post my results as well!
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Did you preorder from Verizon? Please update us on whether tethering works with ULD out of the box!
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Did you preorder from Verizon? Please update us on whether tethering works with ULD out of the box!
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Sad to report...
Got the phone yesterday, I confirm that wifi hotspot does NOT work out of the box. I preordered the phone with VZW and have grandfathered ULDP with no hotspot subscription. It says please subscribe for this feature or something.?*
On another note I have read that PDANet wired USB tethering works, I have not tried this yet. Will try this weekend when I have time.
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On another note I have read that PDANet wired USB tethering works, I have not tried this yet. Will try this weekend when I have time.
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Let us know if it works.
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Hotspot works, I am using it now. You have to install Network Signal refresher lite, activate it then right away switch the toggle for the system hotspot. This works on Verizon and Google purchased Pixels.
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Sad to report...
Got the phone yesterday, I confirm that wifi hotspot does NOT work out of the box. I preordered the phone with VZW and have grandfathered ULDP with no hotspot subscription. It says please subscribe for this feature or something.?*
On another note I have read that PDANet wired USB tethering works, I have not tried this yet. Will try this weekend when I have time.
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Download network signal refresher... Turn it on and immediately turn on native hotspot... This will bypass the verizon certificate
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Download network signal refresher... Turn it on and immediately turn on native hotspot... This will bypass the verizon certificate
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Doesn't work with the lite version. I hit refresh and immediately goto hotspot, it says there is no connection. I wait until I get LTE back and get this screen
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Hotspot works, I am using it now. You have to install Network Signal refresher lite, activate it then right away switch the toggle for the system hotspot. This works on Verizon and Google purchased Pixels.
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Can anyone else try this
I tried with lite version and no joy
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Doesn't work with the lite version. I hit refresh and immediately goto hotspot, it says there is no connection. I wait until I get LTE back and get this screen
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Try tapping the hotspot button from the notification pull down right after you hit refresh.. It just worked for me
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8japps is the developer of the app, make sure you downloaded that right app
Confirmed Network Signal Refresh Lite works to get native hotspot working on VZW ULDP
I tried a few more times after it failed and got it to work just like the other poster said.
Press Refresh on Network Signal Refresh and hit you all apps button and switch to your hotspot setting.
Click it and it comes up .
Slow as hell tho, but still works. Useful in a pinch!!!
Check screenshots for proof!!!
Once you get used to it, it takes just as long as FoxFI did on the Note 7 so I'm happy.
I can also confirm. Refresh, turn on hotspot from pull down menu. You'll need to edit your menu and add hotspot for easier access. My speeds appear to be normal via computer via speedofme. Peaking at 20Mbs
Has anyone had issues with hotspot turning off after 15 to 20min . Ive read in another post this is happening to alot of people
Does anyone worry this could be patched by Verizon? I'm waiting for a Google pixel because I can't afford Verizon to block my wifi tether with udp. If I knew that this would work indefinitely I would just get my phone from Verizon
It's my understanding that these features (advanced calling, like WiFi calling and VoLTE) Doo not work on unbranded devices like Pixel and others. This was the case with my unbranded SM935F or Galaxy S7 Edge until we got some files, an appropriate CSC, and also had AT&T switch our account to an IMEI of an AT&T branded device that had working WiFi Calling (others have apparently just called AT&T and had them provision WiFi Calling)
Note: for me, I have a business account so I could just go into my business portal and put in an IMEI that I got from an S7 Edge model in an AT&T store
I am attaching the files that we needed to add to our system to get WiFi calling to work on AT&T. I think I remember all I had to do was to add them and make sure permissions were correct
Here is an IMEI that I saw on another post that may work ..... But I do know that the AT&T system needs to recognize your phone IMEI as an att branded device that has working WiFi calling. So if you aren't business customers it will require a call to customer support.
Possible working IMEI:
Mod edit: Removed
Any Pixel AT&T users that could try this and report back would be greatly appreciated!
Btw, I'm not completely sure which files are needed in the Pixel as compared to the S7 Edge .... I would have a backup available
Here's link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4qgtyu0rDEbU3dGNnhLZ0FXTWM/view?usp=drivesdk
File too late to upload here
You don't need any of that for WiFi calling or VoLTE. That all works fine on custom roms
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You don't need any of that for WiFi calling or VoLTE. That all works fine on custom roms
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I obviously could be wrong ...... But I'm 99% sure that what you are saying is not true for AT&T and maybe even other USA carriers!
I KNOW that I'm right for S7 phones and ROMs .... And the problem is so pervasive that they have even been able to get unbranded S8's to obtain WiFi Calling on AT&T or other USA carriers (even though WiFi calling works great on branded S8 phones)
AT&T users a different mechanism to provision WiFi calling than other carriers
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I obviously could be wrong ...... But I'm 99% sure that what you are saying is not true for AT&T and maybe even other USA carriers!
I KNOW that I'm right for S7 phones and ROMs .... And the problem is so pervasive that they have even been able to get unbranded S8's to obtain WiFi Calling on AT&T or other USA carriers (even though WiFi calling works great on branded S8 phones)
AT&T users a different mechanism to provision WiFi calling than other carriers
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You are correct that AT&T does not allow unbranded phones to use those features. It's all BS too. I have great LTE coverage but many times I will go to make a call and have crap service because they have canabalized a lot of the hsdpa towers for LTE. Then the switch back to LTE can take forever. And I don't care what they or anyone says AT&T's hspa+ is no where near as fast
None of this works, as AT&T blocks access to VoLTE on Pixel phones. Denies me the use of Numbersync for my tablet and android wear 2.0 watches. AT&T service techs keep promising to fix it and try to force it to work, but still blocked. It is simply a situation for Google to get the Pixel certified for the AT&T network, which is problematic, as AT&T uses a non-standard protocol for HD Voice that is unique to their network. So, as best I can tell, AT&T has to release the source code, for a price, I presume, to Google to add to the phones and then pay for the certification process with the FCC. Seems a stand-off as long as Google has an "exclusive" arrangement with Verizon. So for me, I'm pissed not to have numbersync for my devices, but unwilling to give up all the advantages of the Pixel phone.
That's why I switched to T-Mobile.
So there is no way to get VoLTE on the Pixel XL with AT&T then?
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chipstien said:
So there is no way to get VoLTE on the Pixel XL with AT&T then?
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If AT&T carries the upcoming Pixel 2, is it possible Numbersync would start working on Pixel 1 devices?
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If AT&T carries the upcoming Pixel 2, is it possible Numbersync would start working on Pixel 1 devices?
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I doubt it. They only support advanced features on devices sold by them so it's not as if older Pixels will suddenly be grandfathered in just because they start carrying newer ones.
This annoys me to no end... If I buy a phone from att, do they have to give me an unlock code when the phone is paid off? I really need WiFi calling for a trip I make multiple times a year
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murso74 said:
This annoys me to no end... If I buy a phone from att, do they have to give me an unlock code when the phone is paid off? I really need WiFi calling for a trip I make multiple times a year
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I was able to get the code the same day or next for the att Note 8 that was bought from Samsung. The device is paid off.
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I doubt it. They only support advanced features on devices sold by them so it's not as if older Pixels will suddenly be grandfathered in just because they start carrying newer ones.
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Yeah according to a rep I spoke with, the pixel 2 will support Numbersync even though att isn't selling them. There are, however, no plans to change the restriction on the original pixels.
I'm in the same boat but I'm genuinely curious - if I don't need wifi calling - is it really a big deal not having VoLTE? I'm taking in terms of better signal or faster LTE internet speed. Or does VoLTE is just having clearer phone calls? I guess what I'm asking is what other benefits are we losing (on a technical standpoint)
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I'm in the same boat but I'm genuinely curious - if I don't need wifi calling - is it really a big deal not having VoLTE? I'm taking in terms of better signal or faster LTE internet speed. Or does VoLTE is just having clearer phone calls? I guess what I'm asking is what other benefits are we losing (on a technical standpoint)
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Late response but as far as AT&T goes besides VoLTE what I experienced on my Pixel XL was random issues with group text (MMS) reception from certain individuals from other carriers.
In particular it seemed as though if senders of MMS texts to a group chat that I was participating in sent a text from a carrier like T-Mobile and they were using Samsung devices with VoLTE and enhanced LTE stuff enabled on their end I'd not receive the text. I would instead receive texts from others in the conversation. I could freely text any of the same individuals in a separate standard SMS conversation just fine, and they could send me an MMS text like a photo, but as soon as we were in group MMS I'd lose the ability to receive their texts and no amount of APN changes or combinations of texting apps would fix it.
I can't tell you how many times over the course of the first 5 months of owning my Pixel XL with an AT&T SIM in it I missed out on half the conversation in group MMS. Doing nothing to my phone other than porting number to T-Mobile and putting in my new T-Mobile SIM all of my group MMS issues went away (replaced with ****ty signal LOL but that's a different story). I'm now on Verizon with my XL and am a happy camper, albeit poorer having wasted money jumping around.
Looking to buy a S9. Trying to figure out if the Verizon version pops the mobile hotspot check on a gUDP plan. Does the unlocked version of the S9 use the native hotspot without popping the check?
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Looking to buy a S9. Trying to figure out if the Verizon version pops the mobile hotspot check on a gUDP plan. Does the unlocked version of the S9 use the native hotspot without popping the check?
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I bought the unlocked S9 from Best Buy for this very reason. Hotspot works right out of the box & no messages/pop-ups about needing to have hotspot plan.
I recommend also going with the unlocked model. I'm on Cricket with a Cricket Galaxy S9 and hotspot is blocked. When I had my unlocked model it S9+ it would turn on without any problems. You could also flash unlocked firmware on a G960U of it's still allowed.
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i have verizon, and when i used hotspot, while unlimited, it throttles me after a certain amount... after flashing the U1 version, and using PDA Net, i get unthrottled hotspot and no notifications.
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I recommend also going with the unlocked model. I'm on Cricket with a Cricket Galaxy S9 and hotspot is blocked. When I had my unlocked model it S9+ it would turn on without any problems. You could also flash unlocked firmware on a G960U of it's still allowed.
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curious on how fast cricket is.
and is it consistent?
any reason why you chose cricket??
The service is great at home and throughout California. Speeds are capped at 8-9mbps download and upload but it's fast enough to do instant streaming on Netflix, YouTube, Directv Now, etc at 1080p. Also the Cricket S9 has VOLTE and Wifi Calling [emoji6]. Bill is $55 month for unlimited of which I use about 30-50gbs
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curious on how fast cricket is.
and is it consistent?
any reason why you chose cricket??
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Looks like unlocked is the way to go. Thanks
This will determine if I buy this phone, have been eyeing OnePlus 7 for a few months but haven't seen anybody attempt to use wifi calling on AT&T Network.
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mikebb00 said:
This will determine if I buy this phone, have been eyeing OnePlus 7 for a few months but haven't seen anybody attempt to use wifi calling on AT&T Network.
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I just got me an AT&T sim, and wifi calling and all other features such as texting works fine.
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Has anyone heard if the oneplus 7t will have voice over LTE on AT&T they dont play nice with unlocked phones and hold back features like volte and wifi calling if its not At&T branded.
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Everything works great, including call forwarding codes etc. This phone is basically a turd on Verizon, no wifi calling, and no texting. My plan is to give the AT&T pay as you go plan a 2 month trial, I will forward my VZW phone to it, and put it through the paces, if all works out, I will get rid of VZW and move to At&t.
I found out, while you can enable Wifi calling on AT&T, it does not actually work when there is no network. OnePlus support says that plan on fixing it on a future update. It does however work on Google Fi.