Just got an email saying it's being terminated and once you update to android 10, it will cease to work.
Along with this and the abandonment of the gearvr (yes, I used it regularly, no, not for porn), and the complete lack of any kind of warning that it was going to happen, I'm done with Samsung.
I was about to purchase a TV this coming black friday and Samsung were in the running. Not any more. By the new year, I'll be a Samsung free household.
Assholes!
gear vr is a big waste. paid some apps and only to lose support on note 10. but it wont drive me to buy their dedicated vr gear though
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It's a phone. You want a desktop or vr, buy a computer and real vr system.
It's not like you can pick up a cheap galaxy alternative.... Wait..
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It's a phone. You want a desktop or vr, buy a computer and real vr system.
It's not like you can pick up a cheap galaxy alternative.... Wait..
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Thanks for letting me know I should go out and purchase two additional devices to replace the one device that was doing everything I needed it to just fine.
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It's a phone. You want a desktop or vr, buy a computer and real vr system.
It's not like you can pick up a cheap galaxy alternative.... Wait..
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Nope, it is not a phone. It is a full arm computer on phone form. Very powerful too. Buy the 12GB version and you are faster than most laptops out there.
Discontinuing LoD means Samsung is non serious for anything really...
Yes it's a phone... that they want it to do more than what it honestly needs to do. That's why it's called a "smart"PHONE.
LoD maybe like 50K people use it at most 2 of the main sources total downloads on the play store barely broke 5K, and APK mirror had roughly 36K downloads. Hardly game breaking and honestly isn't worth the effort to keep working on it. That's barely even 5% of sale of devices that supported it. Probably cost more to maintain that the profit it produces. IF you want to keep using it well don't upgrade your device. No other OEM offered it so you are stuck up a creek without a paddle so to speak. Maybe it 20-30% of sales they may have kept it. Maybe you can get a petition going like some people are doing and see if Samsung change their mind.
Most 1200 laptops are faster than the Note 10+ my 2013 laptop costs me 1200 brand new and I know for a fact it still would walk circles around the Note 10+. The Note 10+ probably has the same power as a $500 laptop currently at best imho.
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Yes it's a phone... that they want it to do more than what it honestly needs to do. That's why it's called a "smart"PHONE.
LoD maybe like 50K people use it at most 2 of the main sources total downloads on the play store barely broke 5K, and APK mirror had roughly 36K downloads. Hardly game breaking and honestly isn't worth the effort to keep working on it. That's barely even 5% of sale of devices that supported it. Probably cost more to maintain that the profit it produces. IF you want to keep using it well don't upgrade your device. No other OEM offered it so you are stuck up a creek without a paddle so to speak. Maybe it 20-30% of sales they may have kept it. Maybe you can get a petition going like some people are doing and see if Samsung change their mind.
Most 1200 laptops are faster than the Note 10+ my 2013 laptop costs me 1200 brand new and I know for a fact it still would walk circles around the Note 10+. The Note 10+ probably has the same power as a $500 laptop currently at best imho.
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can't even download since they removed it so it will never exceed expectation if there is any to begin with
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can't even download since they removed it so it will never exceed expectation if there is any to begin with
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We are talking not even 1% in 2 years. Essential sold more phones than that in 6 months. Makes sense why Samsung would drop it especially when people scream about how slow Samsung is with updating.
Yes I am one of those downloads, but I don't use it as much as I thought I would. I ended up not installing on my Note 10+ , and uninstalled it on my S10+.
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We are talking not even 1% in 2 years. Essential sold more phones than that in 6 months. Makes sense why Samsung would drop it especially when people scream about how slow Samsung is with updating.
Yes I am one of those downloads, but I don't use it as much as I thought I would. I ended up not installing on my Note 10+ , and uninstalled it on my S10+.
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i couldn't even install it in note 10. officially, you couldn't even find it in play store
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i couldn't even install it in note 10. officially, you couldn't even find it in play store
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As I said APK mirror shows 36K downloads and all one needs to do it look at the cached website(which a few publications did) and saw 5K"ish" downloads. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but I have nothing to gain or lose by telling you what I read and saw. If since 2 years ago Samsung sold millions of S9, Note8, Note9, and S10 devices and only 40K worth of downloads what would you do from a business unbiased standpoint? You would drop it right? I know I would because it's hardly a blip of sales being affected. It's pocket change compared to what they would pay for a development team to maintain it.
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As I said APK mirror shows 36K downloads and all one needs to do it look at the cached website(which a few publications did) and saw 5K"ish" downloads. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but I have nothing to gain or lose by telling you what I read and saw. If since 2 years ago Samsung sold millions of S9, Note8, Note9, and S10 devices and only 40K worth of downloads what would you do from a business unbiased standpoint? You would drop it right? I know I would because it's hardly a blip of sales being affected. It's pocket change compared to what they would pay for a development team to maintain it.
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it's not even published officially, just basing on the download counts on apkmirror doesn't mean anything. it's like saying the number of downloads for the phone apk at apkmirror tells us it is unpopular so we should ditch it.
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it's not even published officially, just basing on the download counts on apkmirror doesn't mean anything. it's like saying the number of downloads for the phone apk at apkmirror tells us it is unpopular so we should ditch it.
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Do you think Samsung would drop it if it was not widely adopted? I see in this thread alone 2 people trying get Samsung to keep it. We See Pixel owners petitioning Google to bring back a feature they took out the pixel 4 and countless threads all over the place. It was a niche and barely anyone used. Be real with yourself.
To be buying a $1000+ phone and not have a desktop, and complain about a niche VR setup..
Priorities are way off here.
I get the anger over Samsung dropping a "feature",
So don't update if it's worth it to you.
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Do you think Samsung would drop it if it was not widely adopted? I see in this thread alone 2 people trying get Samsung to keep it. We See Pixel owners petitioning Google to bring back a feature they took out the pixel 4 and countless threads all over the place. It was a niche and barely anyone used. Be real with yourself.
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niche or not is not an adjective where you describe it it becomes a part of reality. there is a difference between being realistic and practical. the stats on the number of people using dex and linux on dex should be similar. the only reason for this would be the people who would use dex are people who would be savvy and would know about linux on dex.
before you go on expecting me to provide some background on the stats, perhaps we should be doing the same before jumping to conclusion what is niche, what is realistic and what is practical. personal viewpoint do not make the cut here. removal of a feature is a fact.
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To be buying a $1000+ phone and not have a desktop, and complain about a niche VR setup..
Priorities are way off here.
I get the anger over Samsung dropping a "feature",
So don't update if it's worth it to you.
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vr is niche probably because it isn't as widely accepted as a necessity.
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It was never a feature to begin with... Show me where Samsung said the Note 10 would have said feature? Never did and like you say it was never a public release so you are contradicting your previous comments. So what is it a feature removal or a product that was never officially released? There is a difference between the two.
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It was never a feature to begin with... Show me where Samsung said the Note 10 would have said feature? Never did and like you say it was never a public release so you are contradicting your previous comments. So what is it a feature removal or a product that was never officially released? There is a difference between the two.
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how is unofficial feature not a feature.
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how is unofficial feature not a feature.
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When has Samsung said it would be available to the Note 10? It was in beta and had the disclaimer it may be dropped or may be rolled out as an official feature. You can't call it a feature if it was never an official product released.
There's other alternatives you can do and a lot of media outlets showcased them. Maybe you can try those?
gutted about this gonna check out the alts
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Just got an email saying it's being terminated and once you update to android 10, it will cease to work.
Along with this and the abandonment of the gearvr (yes, I used it regularly, no, not for porn), and the complete lack of any kind of warning that it was going to happen, I'm done with Samsung.
I was about to purchase a TV this coming black friday and Samsung were in the running. Not any more. By the new year, I'll be a Samsung free household.
Assholes!
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Dude you were in the minority and that is why they killed it. It wasn't cost effective. The development of the product was greater than the sales. They all do it, it's business. Look at Google and how many apps they've killed or Microsoft or Apple. If that is the thing that will be a dealbreaker for you, I might suggest you avoid tech all together because eventually, all tech dies.
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When has Samsung said it would be available to the Note 10? It was in beta and had the disclaimer it may be dropped or may be rolled out as an official feature. You can't call it a feature if it was never an official product released.
There's other alternatives you can do and a lot of media outlets showcased them. Maybe you can try those?
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Sure it was beta and all. **** move not to roll out one app release with 2 strings so that the LoD app can run on the Note 10/10+ (which have higher RAM configs available that the S10 line - good luck finding a 12GB version of the S10+). There's no alternatives to LoD. UserLAnd comes close, but it's nowhere as stable or fast because of the way it runs. No way to get a proper desktop browser - sans remoting to a VM somewhere. And all the other implications. Sure the userbase for this is (was) niche, but still.
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As many are hearing, the Note 7 production has stopped. Reports of the line being axed have surfaced and trending on major news site, the BBC has this to say:
Samsung said it has stopped making Galaxy Note 7 smartphones due to consumer safety concerns.
The company is expected to permanently end selling the device, a person familiar with the matter said.
Samsung did not comment further.
Assuming the Note 7 is indeed axed, what do you think this means for the Stylus?
My opinion is that Samsung will steer clear of anything Noteesque for quite some time, size aside, something that makes a Note is of course the Stylus, is it likely to die with Samsung? Interested to hear your thoughts...
They will already be too invested in note 8 to kill it as well. They have already gotten patents for components in it, and expected release as early as 3/2017.
Problem is, the Note 4 (only second hand) and 5 (only grey import) also aren't available anymore, so if my Note 3 would die now, I have nothing to replace it with.
I don't agree that they will stay away from the Note platform. That would be handing lots of sales over to other makers, as I'm sure many stick with Samsung for the stylus in a Note sized product. I do hope the next one is a polished, finished product, though.
Would you agree that many buy the Note 7 regardless of the Stylus? I appreciate many buy for the feature, but I have seen so many people on XDA saying they can switch easily to a different device because they simply bought the Note 7 for the spec.
If those same people are a large part of the user base (Samsung would know I guess by Stylus usage statistics perhaps?) then launching a larger than the S7 Edge device under a different name could bode well for them?
It could be that nearly all Note users buy for the stylus, I'm just putting it out there.
I have no idea on how many don't use the stylus. Certainly if someone does not use it, it'd be easy to make different choices. But I don't really see the stylus as the issue here. It's the battery.
What to do now? S7E - don't rly like it after touching the NOTE7. Wait for S8 is too long for me. I still use S4 that is dead (at least battery is new) lol. Other brands don't have good camera like N7 or S7E... Not to start talking about accessorys i bought for N7....
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Would you agree that many buy the Note 7 regardless of the Stylus? I appreciate many buy for the feature, but I have seen so many people on XDA saying they can switch easily to a different device because they simply bought the Note 7 for the spec.
If those same people are a large part of the user base (Samsung would know I guess by Stylus usage statistics perhaps?) then launching a larger than the S7 Edge device under a different name could bode well for them?
It could be that nearly all Note users buy for the stylus, I'm just putting it out there.
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They used that stylus-statistic to slide the S6Edge+ down our throats and not bring the Note 5 to Europe. The S6E+ tanked and is now being sold with 200+ euro discounts to get rid of excisting stocks.
The Note series is the only phone with stylus. You have nowhere else to go. So switching now is an option, since there are zero new stylus phones on the market at the moment.
I hope they do not kill the stylus.
I love the stylus specially when i am at college.
It allows me to write notes or draw sketches and memes and i am arch student. To me a phone without a stylus looks awkard.. They propably will change name of the note brand by next year or dit h the stylus i hope the later does not happen.
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Would you agree that many buy the Note 7 regardless of the Stylus? I appreciate many buy for the feature, but I have seen so many people on XDA saying they can switch easily to a different device because they simply bought the Note 7 for the spec.
If those same people are a large part of the user base (Samsung would know I guess by Stylus usage statistics perhaps?) then launching a larger than the S7 Edge device under a different name could bode well for them?
It could be that nearly all Note users buy for the stylus, I'm just putting it out there.
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Still on Note 4. I think that I have used the stylus once. I keep forgetting it's even there. I bought the Note 4 because it is a good, large, solid phone with a big screen and a REMOVABLE BATTERY. That's the reason that I never went to the Note 5 or Note 7. There are two Note 4s in my family that are just under two years old. I've already had to replace the battery in one because of it not holding a charge, boot loops, etc. To me, the Note 7 was the best of the sealed phones and the only one that I would even bother considering.
What? you thought that for years, people bought a Note just because it has a slightly bigger screen than the S series?
The stylus IS the Note. It's the reason why Samsung had 2 Flagship phones instead of 1. Dude, the Stylus is here to stay, period.
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What to do now? S7E - don't rly like it after touching the NOTE7. Wait for S8 is too long for me. I still use S4 that is dead (at least battery is new) lol. Other brands don't have good camera like N7 or S7E... Not to start talking about accessorys i bought for N7....
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IPhone 7 plus smh
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IPhone 7 plus smh
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Even if ios is fast as **** the fact that I cant even put a damn icon where i want is a deal breaker to me...
I'd move to the iPhone 7 plus but they are backordered until end of November/early December...
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I'd move to the iPhone 7 plus but they are backordered until end of November/early December...
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I replaced my Note 7 with an IPhone 7 Plus through Verizon, the 256 GB versions are available now in several colors & mine is arriving tomorrow!
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I replaced my Note 7 with an IPhone 7 Plus through Verizon, the 256 GB versions are available now in several colors & mine is arriving tomorrow!
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Hmm.. I just called yesterday and all the ones she checked were sold out. I wonder how much I'd have to pay for the 256 gb version.
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They will already be too invested in note 8 to kill it as well. They have already gotten patents for components in it, and expected release as early as 3/2017.
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Let's hope they learn their lesson and go back to using replaceable batteries like my trusty Note 3 does. Let's face it, it's karma, Samsung.
Andre
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Assuming the Note 7 is indeed axed, what do you think this means for the Stylus?
My opinion is that Samsung will steer clear of anything Noteesque for quite some time, size aside, something that makes a Note is of course the Stylus, is it likely to die with Samsung? Interested to hear your thoughts...
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I don't think they'll let it die. Let some time pass, bring it out again and maybe even find a new name for it, that's it.
People forget fast anyway, you can watch that in politics every day...
What do you think would happen if that problem arose with a Galaxy S phone? No galaxies any more?
TL;DR: Samsung is a monstrosity of a company. It's for sure a big inconvenience for them, but it won't break their neck and influence them too much.
Think of what would happen if that same thing happened to LG...
And you can be quite sure that all future Samsung phones will be non-exploding a f
EDIT: Whoa, I am astonished of how many people claim to switch to an iPhone....
Have fun with the limited OS and that cancer of software called iTunes
P.S. iphone 7 + is a brick compared to N7... I hate Samsung for giving up on Note 7...
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I replaced my Note 7 with an IPhone 7 Plus through Verizon, the 256 GB versions are available now in several colors & mine is arriving tomorrow!
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Sure enough they are available... Idk how much they are gonna charge me though. For me to upgrade early to the note 7 they made me spend 200 and send in my s6. They are probably gonna make me pay the tax and put $100 down so it barely increases my monthly bill.. Any advice?
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I don't think they'll let it die. Let some time pass, bring it out again and maybe even find a new name for it, that's it.
People forget fast anyway, you can watch that in politics every day...
What do you think would happen if that problem arose with a Galaxy S phone? No galaxies any more?
TL;DR: Samsung is a monstrosity of a company. It's for sure a big inconvenience for them, but it won't break their neck and influence them too much.
Think of what would happen if that same thing happened to LG...
And you can be quite sure that all future Samsung phones will be non-exploding a f
EDIT: Whoa, I am astonished of how many people claim to switch to an iPhone....
Have fun with the limited OS and that cancer of software called iTunes
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I don't use iTunes I use Spotify premium for all my music.
Just wondering who here is keeping the note 7 and taking the risk of it exploding? I'm happy to keep mine though little annoyed that they've stopped gear VR support and I'm 80% certain Samsung will eventually force us all to return the note 7 by maybe a software update that renders the phone useless.
I honestly have no idea what phone I'd get, I had the S7 edge as a temporary replacement phone while the recall was going on and it didn't feel as good as the note 7, the software wasn't as good and I missed the little features like the swipe gesture in the camera app for example. I still have my note 4 but it uses a different sim card so will have to get an adaptor but even then the note 4 seems really out dated in comparison but I get to keep the S-pen which is the biggest reason I got a note device in the first place. I also have a gear s2 smart watch and while it should work with other android phones it's just works better with a Samsung phone. I hope Samsung do something quick maybe release a note 8 and replace the note 7s with it lol there's just no alternatives.
What are you doing with your note 7?
Heading to VZW over lunch. No clue what I'm replacing with, or if they will even allow me yet (VZW 3rd Party).
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What are you doing with your note 7?
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Hanging on to it for as long as I possibly can. If the deadline for a replacement or refund is midnight on 31st December, I'll hand it in on 31st December.
Is a p**s take though like what about people who've brought cases for the note 7 and other accessories? I purchased my gear vr from ebay for £80 as the seller had it with the note 7 but didn't want it and I couldn't seem to find it anywhere online or in shops probably due to the recall. I had the S7 edge at the time so could still use it but now they've cut off note 7 support so I no longer can use my gear VR so I'd at least like to know exactly what's going on so I can possibly see about selling it. Add on top the money I've spent on apps which I can no long use on the gear VR it's just ridiculous. I personally wouldn't mind waiting through another recall as long as I get to keep and use the note 7 I have then just swap it for a new and hopefully completely safe note 7 but looks like the note 7 is done for.
I'm keeping mine. I will treasure it even more now knowing once it's gone, it's gone forever. Now I need to figure out a way getting rid of the 60% charging cap. I love this phone so much!
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Heading to VZW over lunch. No clue what I'm replacing with, or if they will even allow me yet (VZW 3rd Party).
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VZW was no help here. They said deal w Samsung. BS.
If I change the build.prop file, do you reckon I can trick the oculus app into thinking it's an S7 edge not a note 7?? I used it on the gear vr before the update and it seemed to work okay without getting stupidly hot even had it on charge lol.
The phones I want aren't out yet... Hoping final refund instructions come out in time to pre order the v20.. or maybe the pixel . I'm in the Philippines... Don't know how I can order the pixel lol
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VZW was no help here. They said deal w Samsung. BS.
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If not today, give it some time. This is still breaking news and info. hasn't flown down yet.
I did notice in my VZW account that my Note 7 now says "Upgrade Eligible". This wasn't there yesterday. Something on the back end happened.
At minimum, I'm going to deactivate this device and put an old phone on the account for now.
TMO has offered to exchange me out of this POS. But as others have said, there is nothing out there right now to really hold it down. So my question is this, Nougat won't be released for the N7 I suppose, what is the true lifespan of the phone with updates not being released for it? And of course, there is the explosion possibility?
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TMO has offered to exchange me out of this POS. But as others have said, there is nothing out there right now to really hold it down. So my question is this, Nougat won't be released for the N7 I suppose, what is the true lifespan of the phone with updates not being released for it? And of course, there is the explosion possibility?
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Personally - and you have to make up your own mind on this - I am not even 0.000000000001 % bothered about the "explosion risk". You have about as much chance of winning Euromillions tonight, and in my view, that is no basis to reject a piece of equipment.
The lack of updates and also dismal resale value is much more concerning.
But worse than any of that, I think Samsung will send out an update that cripples the phone. They did it with Rev.1. so I have no reason to assume they won't do the same with Rev.2. Your choice to keep it may very well be taken out of your hands, which personally, I think is disgusting.
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If not today, give it some time. This is still breaking news and info. hasn't flown down yet.
I did notice in my VZW account that my Note 7 now says "Upgrade Eligible". This wasn't there yesterday. Something on the back end happened.
At minimum, I'm going to deactivate this device and put an old phone on the account for now.
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Yeah, I'm back on my OG HTC One, lol. So far 1 hour on the phone with Samsung and everyone is clueless. About to hang up and just hit VZW again in a day or two. I have to say, though, it's irritating to be paying on a device that is powered down and not activated on my line (Edge financing).
Time to cut loses. Thats what samsung did. The phone hase become a liability. Get your money back if you can.
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Yeah, I'm back on my OG HTC One, lol. So far 1 hour on the phone with Samsung and everyone is clueless. About to hang up and just hit VZW again in a day or two. I have to say, though, it's irritating to be paying on a device that is powered down and not activated on my line (Edge financing).
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Why don't you just use it? Seriously there's been like 8 with problems out of what, 2 million, 3 million? Seriously you have more chance of being run over than having a problem with the device.
The thing with statistics is they can be unintuitive and lead to strange conclusions. Let's say one phone in every 500,000 is going to develop a fault and catch fire. From Samsung's perspective, that means they can be certain they will have lots of unhappy customers, potential lawsuits and bad publicity and therefore it's a bit of a no-brainer to stop selling it.
But from your perspective, you have a 500,000:1 on chance that your phone will have no problems. And in the remotely unlikely event that it does, how likely is it to kill you, burn your house down or anything like that. Even less likely. There are ZERO such reports.
So it's up to you, but for me, it's a no brainer to keep using it, and I hope Samsung will respect that point of view and not cripple our phones with some unnecessary and unwanted forced update.
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Personally - and you have to make up your own mind on this - I am not even 0.000000000001 % bothered about the "explosion risk". You have about as much chance of winning Euromillions tonight, and in my view, that is no basis to reject a piece of equipment.
The lack of updates and also dismal resale value is much more concerning.
But worse than any of that, I think Samsung will send out an update that cripples the phone. They did it with Rev.1. so I have no reason to assume they won't do the same with Rev.2. Your choice to keep it may very well be taken out of your hands, which personally, I think is disgusting.
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Yeah I agree I'm not so much concerned about the explosion risk but just the lack of support and updates in the future. Wish they'd just let us take the risk I for one wouldn't sue Samsung if my note 7 does explode there's little chance that you haven't heard about the issues from somewhere therefore it's not Samsung's fault that I took the risk.
What did samsung do with the phone after they recalled it, if they didn't fix the issue?
Samsung UK web site has no mention of recall for v2.
Doing nothing until Samsung (who I bought it from) contact me. Even then it won't be going back until it's knocked out by Samsung.
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Samsung UK web site has no mention of recall for v2.
Doing nothing until Samsung (who I bought it from) contact me. Even then it won't be going back until it's knocked out by Samsung.
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https://twitter.com/SamsungUK/status/785863444696272896, they want UK note 7 owners to give the phone back
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Yeah I agree I'm not so much concerned about the explosion risk but just the lack of support and updates in the future. Wish they'd just let us take the risk I for one wouldn't sue Samsung if my note 7 does explode there's little chance that you haven't heard about the issues from somewhere therefore it's not Samsung's fault that I took the risk.
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Indeed. Just looking it up now, you are 500 times more likely to die from riding a motorbike than you are to have a fire with your Note 7. (Assuming 1 phone per 500,000 has a problem.)
best buy exchanged mine out with no questions asked. I was told to even keep the 256GB SD card. unfortunate I went to the dark side and got iphone7 plus. The LG was just cheap and I was unimpressed. Buying the Google Pixel XL outright to bring over to Sprint was not a option for me. I am done with Sammy with all the issues I have had with there products since the Note 4 and other house hold appliances. Iphone was my only option.
So here is the thing. People claim that their notes "caught on fire". Both the original and replacements. Have these people sent all of their phones back to Samsung for inspection? If I just say that my note caught on fire and provide no proof, do they still count his as a case? This whole fiasco seems very odd to me. It is not like companies like apple have not tried stuffing the most battery in a phone before. Plus, does anybody really know how these people who have proven cases were using their phones?
I mean, we all know that every phone is not perfect and a few are going to have these issues. Samsung supposively cannot replicate this issue. The fact that the Note 7 beat the iphone to the punch and was a real threat to their 7 plus just seems a bit strange to me that all of a sudden this was going on.
I will do my due diligence and check out the pixel and the V20, but if either does not meet what I want, I am keeping my note. Samsung washers have reportedly "exploded" too, but I still use it and there has not been a recall.
You shouldn't take things so personally, as if Samsung is going to kill you or mangle you if you don't return that damned Note 7. The right thing to do is return it, if you can't see that then that's your problem but know if you don't return it and something actually does happen - you get injured in some manner or someone else does, or property gets damaged in some manner - you're on your own and you have no legal recourse to sue Samsung or anyone else now that the worldwide recall is official.
You and many others like you can ramble on with post after post after post about how Samsung is at fault (they know it), how bad this is for Samsung (they know it), that people will miss the Note products from Samsung (they know it), that Samsung should do something to fix things (they know it and they're working on it and it's costing them billions to do so), and how pissed you and others are about this whole fiasco (they know it).
We all know it, things happen, mistakes happen, sometimes it all goes wrong and nothing can be done to curtail that until AFTER it's happened which is the case here with the Note 7.
What's done is done, get over it. Return the device, get the refund, move on, because anything else is just whining.
The problem I have.....
I just signed up for a 2 yr payment plan for the phone...have had it 2 weeks now I need to swap it for another phone... THERE IS NO OTHER PHONE that can match the Note 7 other then maybe the S7edge.....but that phone has been out since march and now I'll have it for another 2 years!!!
So my upgrade just got really downgraded for 2 years!!
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br0adband said:
You shouldn't take things so personally, as if Samsung is going to kill you or mangle you if you don't return that damned Note 7. The right thing to do is return it, if you can't see that then that's your problem but know if you don't return it and something actually does happen - you get injured in some manner or someone else does, or property gets damaged in some manner - you're on your own and you have no legal recourse to sue Samsung or anyone else now that the worldwide recall is official.
You and many others like you can ramble on with post after post after post about how Samsung is at fault (they know it), how bad this is for Samsung (they know it), that people will miss the Note products from Samsung (they know it), that Samsung should do something to fix things (they know it and they're working on it and it's costing them billions to do so), and how pissed you and others are about this whole fiasco (they know it).
We all know it, things happen, mistakes happen, sometimes it all goes wrong and nothing can be done to curtail that until AFTER it's happened which is the case here with the Note 7.
What's done is done, get over it. Return the device, get the refund, move on, because anything else is just whining.
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Do we actually have any real proof of what is actually going on with the phone and why this is happening? Like i said, I will do my due diligence and take a look at other options. But this whole thing stinks of apple having their hand in this. They have no innovations since who knows when and Samsung was pretty much beating them in everything.
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The problem I have.....
I just signed up for a 2 yr payment plan for the phone...have had it 2 weeks now I need to swap it for another phone... THERE IS NO OTHER PHONE that can match the Note 7 other then maybe the S7edge.....but that phone has been out since march and now I'll have it for another 2 years!!!
So my upgrade just got really downgraded for 2 years!!
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Yup. My only option is to just get a full refund and wait till the Galaxy 8 pro or whatever they will call it comes out.
I wish that was an option for me...but I just swapped the vzw due to service in my area so my note 4 was traded in!!! Uggg
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... and Samsung was pretty much beating them in everything.
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Except actual sales.
As for the rest of what you said, Samsung is currently conducting their internal investigation and that will take as long as it takes. If and when they do reach a conclusion and discover what caused the issues with the Note 7 that eventually prompted the worldwide recall they will make a public statement.
Until that actual public statement appears on a Samsung official website (based on countries, as in there's a Korean site, a US site, a Canadian site, a UK site, etc) then pretty much everything you hear, read, or see can be considered speculative conjecture at best.
There can be some actually logical speculative conjecture in some degrees because Li-Ion batteries work in predictable and very well known ways - the issue here is what's causing them to end up in runaway conditions aka burning up and sometimes exploding. It could be a charging issue, it could be an issue with the thermal limitations being exceeded, it could be an issue with pressure on the battery inside the device once it's all closed up caused by the construction of the device itself, it could be any additional pressure exerted on the already compressed battery by outside forces (bending, punctures, sitting down with a Note 7 in a pocket especially a back pocket), and so on.
We don't know anything for 100% actual fact at this point except to say that some Note 7 devices have catastrophically failed and enough of them have failed to cause Samsung to issue the worldwide recall.
All that matters is that the recall is in place and that the devices should be returned for exchange with another device (not a Note 7 of course) or a refund of the purchase price.
Anything else is just babbling from idiots.
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Except actual sales.
As for the rest of what you said, Samsung is currently conducting their internal investigation and that will take as long as it takes. If and when they do reach a conclusion and discover what caused the issues with the Note 7 that eventually prompted the worldwide recall they will make a public statement.
Until that actual public statement appears on a Samsung official website (based on countries, as in there's a Korean site, a US site, a Canadian site, a UK site, etc) then pretty much everything you hear, read, or see can be considered speculative conjecture at best.
There can be some actually logical speculative conjecture in some degrees because Li-Ion batteries work in predictable and very well known ways - the issue here is what's causing them to end up in runaway conditions aka burning up and sometimes exploding. It could be a charging issue, it could be an issue with the thermal limitations being exceeded, it could be an issue with pressure on the battery inside the device once it's all closed up caused by the construction of the device itself, it could be any additional pressure exerted on the already compressed battery by outside forces (bending, punctures, sitting down with a Note 7 in a pocket especially a back pocket), and so on.
We don't know anything for 100% actual fact at this point except to say that some Note 7 devices have catastrophically failed and enough of them have failed to cause Samsung to issue the worldwide recall.
All that matters is that the recall is in place and that the devices should be returned for exchange with another device (not a Note 7 of course) or a refund of the purchase price.
Anything else is just babbling from idiots.
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Any reason why you are taking this so personal and calling people names? Must be a Hillary supporter....
You think humans in general aren't idiotic and stupid more often than not?
Seriously?
Has there been one single case of me naming and calling out any specific member here and saying "Hey, <member name, you're a stupid person..." or anything of that nature, or are you just taking my belief that people in general are stupid and my pointing that out in general (without naming specific people) at times is a problem for someone in specific 'cause I don't see any actual proof of that happening.
Pretty sure that there are more Samsung phones worldwide than Apple. I know for a fact there are WAY more android phones worldwide - over 70% of the market share, if not more. So I guess it depends on what your definition is in "beating them in sales".
OK, I just looked it up. In 2016, Samsung has 22.8% of the phones world wide. Apple has 11.7%. So Samsung has about twice the amount of phones selling as Apple. 87.6% of the phones world wide are Android BTW.
We're talking about the Note 7, not every Android-based smartphone on the market today and especially not every Samsung smartphone on the market today either.
In terms of sales, the amount of Note 7 devices sold since release in August 2016 was a drop in the bucket in terms of worldwide sales compared to the iPhone 7 or even the iPhone 7 Plus just a week or two after they were released - hell, the iPhone 7/7 Plus probably had more pre-orders than the Note 7 sold physical units of.
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We're talking about the Note 7, not every Android-based smartphone on the market today and especially not every Samsung smartphone on the market today either.
In terms of sales, the amount of Note 7 devices sold since release in August 2016 was a drop in the bucket in terms of worldwide sales compared to the iPhone 7 or even the iPhone 7 Plus just a week or two after they were released - hell, the iPhone 7/7 Plus probably had more pre-orders than the Note 7 sold physical units of.
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I reported your disruptive behavior.
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I reported your disruptive behavior.
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Telling people that you reported them for <whatever> is usually considered to be a bad thing and generally frowned upon but thanks for your efforts just the same.
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Telling people that you reported them for <whatever> is usually considered to be a bad thing and generally frowned upon but thanks for your efforts just the same.
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Your logic is twisted.
br0adband said:
We're talking about the Note 7, not every Android-based smartphone on the market today and especially not every Samsung smartphone on the market today either.
In terms of sales, the amount of Note 7 devices sold since release in August 2016 was a drop in the bucket in terms of worldwide sales compared to the iPhone 7 or even the iPhone 7 Plus just a week or two after they were released - hell, the iPhone 7/7 Plus probably had more pre-orders than the Note 7 sold physical units of.
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In a previous post you said Apple was beating Samsung in sales. That is categorically untrue. Now you are backtracking. Samsung has more than just 2 phones they offer. But that doesn't matter. The phones they DO offer, they sell twice as many of them a year than the two phones Apple does offer (and remember, it wasn't long ago Apple scoffed at the idea that they would need to offer more than one device, or a larger display device at all).
We all know this discussion is on the Note 7. You threw in a quip that was inclusive of more than the Note 7 as a "gotcha", but a gotcha that wasn't at all accurate to the actual statistical sales data. What was your point? The same as your point in typing thousands of words in many posts on a Note 7 forum when you don't even own a Note 7 and never did. Pointless.
The Note 7 is basically Samsung's flagship device to compete directly with the launch of the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus, is that really in dispute? And at this moment in time, there have been more iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus units sold worldwide than there have been Note 7 units sold worldwide, by a fairly large margin. In probable fact, there were more iPhone 7 sales than the Note 7 and there were more iPhone 7 Plus sales than the Note 7 when taken as individual devices even though they were released at the same time - that means the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus being released at the same time in September, not the Note 7 which was released in August.
That's all I said, twice now.
You said Apple is beating Samsung in sales. Which is not even remotely true. So now you want to backtrack and single onto one device and make the same claim. And FYI, in 2015, Samsung sold more phones than Apple in Q4, which is usually when Apple does the best as they release the new Ifones in Q4. As I mentioned in a previous post, Samsung sells almost twice as many phones a year as Apple.
No one is debating Apple sells a lot of ifones. Especially in the US. But you might as well acknowledge that they actually don't sell more phones than Samsung, not even close. Unless you want to tweak the stats to just one phone for Samsung, of which they offer several different devices. No one says they only have to offer one or two different models. IDC if Apple sells more or Samsung sells more - that never had anything to do with any of this anyway, but you had to make your quip about it as if it does.
https://youtu.be/RXcU-IzHw0w
Found this hands on video of the Galaxy fold. The app continuity when the guy plays YouTube is seamless. Also is it me or the speakers super clear and loud. Any thoughts about the video. Getting pretty excited about this phone.
I think that's the same pre production model that was in the other video as it has the test number in the back and a crease, but yeah it's definitely an exciting phone.
I can't wait until I get my hands on one!
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I think that's the same pre production model that was in the other video as it has the test number in the back and a crease, but yeah it's definitely an exciting phone.
I can't wait until I get my hands on one!
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Yeah, I'm super excited for this phone. I want to see more hands-on videos with people using Instagram and other popular apps . We are in April now so only a few weeks left. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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Yeah, I'm super excited for this phone. I want to see more hands-on videos with people using Instagram and other popular apps . We are in April now so only a few weeks left. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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Well I'll be sure to take some videos of it in use when I get mine
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Well I'll be sure to take some videos of it in use when I get mine
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https://youtu.be/9Y-wcA6GDsk
Found another video. Looks like web browsing won't look to good when the phone is in the one hand configurations. Unless the person using the phone had it in desktop view.
I don't think there will be an issue with that. Apparently the issue reported on the testing handsets was when you switch from the external to internal display on Chrome. Plus, these are all older software and hardware than the final release models will be. And certainly nothing that can't be fixed with software updates.
If they're serious about the extra support Fold users will get, I'd imagine a faster update to Android 10 than they usually do. That has a lot of built in support for folding devices.
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I don't think there will be an issue with that. Apparently the issue reported on the testing handsets was when you switch from the external to internal display on Chrome. Plus, these are all older software and hardware than the final release models will be. And certainly nothing that can't be fixed with software updates.
If they're serious about the extra support Fold users will get, I'd imagine a faster update to Android 10 than they usually do. That has a lot of built in support for folding devices.
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That would definitely be nice. I was able to reserve one. Unfortunately, it's only for At&t and Tmobile. I'm surprised Samsung didn't make unlocked devices for all U.S. carriers but they are probably producing such a limited amount of units they decided on GSM compatible networks. Also, I'm a little sad Samsung didn't do a Fold press event like they said they would. I thought the one they streamed on the 11th/12th would be about the Fold but it was just on the A70/ A80 series
Apparently, Samsung is releasing the Fold to the public and press because there are a lot of hands-on videos popping up on YouTube. Of course, this is after people pre-ordered them last night .
https://youtu.be/-O39FAQapSA
https://youtu.be/7FrN4BoIwc4
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That would definitely be nice. I was able to reserve one. Unfortunately, it's only for At&t and Tmobile. I'm surprised Samsung didn't make unlocked devices for all U.S. carriers but they are probably producing such a limited amount of units they decided on GSM compatible networks. Also, I'm a little sad Samsung didn't do a Fold press event like they said they would. I thought the one they streamed on the 11th/12th would be about the Fold but it was just on the A70/ A80 series
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I just heard that AT&T paid $15 million to be an exclusive seller. As of now, no Verizon but who knows how long that will be. They got the 5G exclusive contract with Samsung anyway. I think that the US Carriers have a lot of influence on Samsung because they are willing to shell out so much money. Probably another reason that there is no Unlocked version. I'm surprised that AT&T only offers the Silver and Black colors. I'm glad I pre-ordered on Samsung.com so I could get Martian Green with a gold hinge.
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I just heard that AT&T paid $15 million to be an exclusive seller. As of now, no Verizon but who knows how long that will be. They got the 5G exclusive contract with Samsung anyway. I think that the US Carriers have a lot of influence on Samsung because they are willing to shell out so much money. Probably another reason that there is no Unlocked version. I'm surprised that AT&T only offers the Silver and Black colors. I'm glad I pre-ordered on Samsung.com so I could get Martian Green with a gold hinge.
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That explains a lot .Yeah I heard also that you can only get the silver one in at TMobile. Well goes to show money talks ?. I was definitely disappointed since I'm on Verizon.
I've seen seemingly dozens of videos as well as read many first looks and so on. One thing that comes to mind is that somewhere I read that all sales will be carrier, no unlocked sales. Even the ones that Samsung let you reserve were AT&T or Tmo versions, not international unlocked so that one may be true. Sounds like E gets it for the UK, I've been trying to figure out if that one will have an unlocked bootloader...
Samsung Galaxy Fold - What's Actually Causing The Break?
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Samsung Galaxy Fold - What's Actually Causing The Break?
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Thanks for putting up this video
Gaming on the Galaxy Fold
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https://www.foldable.news/foldable-smartphone/galaxy-fold-displays-now-also-breaking-in-china/
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Will you keep your order ?
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Will you keep your order ?
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I'm on the fence. I *want* to be an early adopter but even if I'm extremely careful I'm afraid that $2000 screen will be nicked up in no time at all.
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https://twitter.com/engadget/status/1169599182367338496?s=08
I think most people on this forum can agree that the biggest shortfall of Samsung's devices is the bloatware. Be it the Samsung app, the google apps or even the netflix app, everyone has something they wish wasn't there which is why ADB is so popular.
It would be great if Samsung was to allow a custom app load on startup.
That is precisely what I am suggesting for the Samsung UI beta. I'd like to get some feedback, or at least some "hearts" from the XDA community to show interest on their dedicated suggestion forum.
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Good afternoon, It is undisputed that Samsung makes great phones with great hardware and physical integrity. That being said, the most prominent complaint against them is the abundance of bloatware. It is so prominent that many will skip the purchase, and others will use a debloating program...
us.community.samsung.com
Thank you,
What's bloatware to some is a useful app to others. A builtin package disabler be nice though.
Much of the Samsung bloatware sits there and uses little or no resources unless used. About 30 out of 80 apps I disable are Samsung. Some are toggled on/off as needed.
Samsung's auto updates are far more troublesome and need to be locked down
Firmware upgrades can and do kill Samsung's especially later ones.
So with some wherewithal it's not a big deal using 3rd party work arounds, settings and a firewall. Otherwise there's always iPhone...
That said the last 3 flagship releases for the Note/S series have been lacking with dropped balls a plenty. Right now Samsung has no new flagships I'll buy even when they become marked down.
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Right now Samsung has no new flagships I'll buy even when they become marked down.
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There is no good flagship option atm.
The P6? lol
The S22? Bleh
Upcoming P7? A possible repeat of the P6.
Upcoming S23? May be worth the wait?
Apple? As much as it pains me to say it, I do find them more and more appealing when comparing.
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There is no good flagship option atm.
The P6? lol
The S22? Bleh
Upcoming P7? A possible repeat of the P6.
Upcoming S23? May be worth the wait?
Apple? As much as it pains me to say it, I do find them more and more appealing when comparing.
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Apple? No.
No expandable storage kills Apple without even getting into their firmware/software/DRM issues. However don't expect much out of Samsung with their next new release.
With both Samsung and Google Android I'm banking on it taking them at least 1-3 years to get their sorry acts together. To that end I will continue to use my N10+'s running on Pie and Q. With a projected lifespan of 2-3+ years... means I don't care.
Let the other rats run the maze, I'm chillin
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Apple? No.
No expandable storage kills Apple
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No sd card sucks on all 3 main manufacturers. It is such a strange thing to have removed.
I was also hoping to ride my old p2 for a while longer until better options come out, but i jumped in a river with it instead
I'll need to select something for the next 3+ years when my backup phone fails (well on its way)
Anyway, i dare to dream on the bloatware front and hope for built-in solutions
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No sd card sucks on all 3 main manufacturers. It is such a strange thing to have removed.
I was also hoping to ride my old p2 for a while longer until better options come out, but i jumped in a river with it instead
I'll need to select something for the next 3+ years when my backup phone fails (well on its way)
Anyway, i dare to dream on the bloatware front and hope for built-in solutions
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Google been pushing to kill expandable for years. They got the MS cloud control power fantasy going on.
Well I can still recommend a N10+ which is what I would buy today. Bought my last one 10 months ago. New ones are still available and their loaded with Android 10.
yes, bloatware from Google and Samsung