Is it possible to enable USB3.0 on ZUK Z2 Plus? - Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) Questions & Answers

The specifications on Lenovo's official site stated that it's USB2.0 only. I have tried to connect my Z2 Plus to an USB3.0 port, with a USB3.0 cable. usbview.exe always showed it's USB2.0 only. I don't know whether it's a hardware limit.

Short answer : No
Long answer : Hell no
It is a hardware thing

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USB type C and Quick Charge 3.0

This is interesting. Basically this guy is saying USB-C doesn't support proprietary charging above 5 volts which is why Google didn't use Quick Charge for the Nexus 6P.
Maybe this is also why Samsung didn't use USB-C because they wanted to safely use Quick Charge?
http://phandroid.com/2016/04/21/lg-g5-htc-10-usb-type-c/
This is going to be posted all over and its basically nonsense. The current QC 2.0 over micro usb are also using 9-12volts. And micro usb also only supports 5v. So. It's no different then it's ever been.
Get a QC3.0 compatible charger/cable and be done.
regalpimpin said:
This is going to be posted all over and its basically nonsense. The current QC 2.0 over micro usb are also using 9-12volts. And micro usb also only supports 5v. So. It's no different then it's ever been.
Get a QC3.0 compatible charger/cable and be done.
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Quoted for truth.
Quickcharge checks before sending down higher voltages. It's fully backwards compatible even if it's not part of the USB specs. There is no additional danger from what you had before.
I follow
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts
for his tested products and I think everyone will be fine.
Qualcomm has a list as well
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/q...ge-device-list
chazall1 said:
I follow
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts
for his tested products and I think everyone will be fine.
Qualcomm has a list as well
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/q...ge-device-list
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Qualcomm link isn't working.
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Qualcomm link isn't working.
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https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
This is total BS!!
I have the HTC 10 in my hands, it is quick charging with no issues.
Also, take the Apple Macbook as an example, the laptop uses an USB-C port to charge, it inputs 14.5V with 2A.
If the USB-C meets the USB-Power-Delivery standard, it can transfer up to 100W of power. Don't believe the BS article.
Edit: It seems that Qualcomm uses their own implementation, but still it is transferring voltage over 5 volts
Is the article supposed to say that not all USB-C cables can support it? Maybe the cheap ones can't?
Didn't Amazon just yank a bunch of cheaply made USB-C cables from their marketplace?
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Here's my take. I have always been under the impression the device dictates the watts and volts not the charger. The charger has a range it will draw power, and the phone tells the charger how much it needs. QC standard is UP TO and is not absolute. So if the device tells the charger I want 15W/5V that's what it'll get.
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I've been trying to research and I have come up with a conclusion. This is only my opinion, but I have based it off of hours of research. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
Is QC QuickCharge 3.0 charger going to hurt my phone or anyy other devices I may plug into it?
Best I can figure is no. QC 3.0 chargers are designed to only fast charge if it is connected to a QC 3.0 device. Before it starts fast charging, it does a negotiation withh the device to verify if it supports QC 3.0. "Also, since Quick Charge is compatible and interoperable, a certified adapter can be used with a non-Quick Charge device, though the fast charging benefits of Quick Charge will not be available. " : Source
Can my HTC 10 be charged qith a non QC 3.0 charger?
The simple answer is yes. If you use one of the many non-QC 3.0 chargers that you have laying around, it will charge your phone just fine. This is as long as you use a compliant cable with the 56k ohm resistor. More on that next.
Does it matter which USB cable I use?
This one is tricky. I do not have an HTC 10 yet, but I have heard that it comes with a USB 2.0 Type A to USB 3.0 Type C cable. I can't find the source now, but it was in the Mega Thread. If this is true, than you should be able to use any cable this spec or better. By better I mean a USB 3.0 Type A to USB 3.1 Type 3 cable should work fine. The most important part is that the USB cable MUST have a 56k ohm resister. There have been some cheap cables using a 10k ohm resister that could cause problems. These problems could result in the port on the device or the charger getting damaged.
Will the HTC 10 work with a USB-PD charger?
Well first, USB-PD stands for USB-Power Delivery. This is the new USB fast charging standard set by the USB gods. This technology allows devices to receive more power and thus would allow a phone to charge more quickly. This is NOT the same as QC 3.0. QC 3.0 is a proprietary charging system and only available on certain Qualcomm powered devices. So can the HTC 10 use USB-PD? My guess is no but I could be wrong. According to GSMArena, the HTC 10 has aa USB 3.1 port. USB 3.1 supports USB-PD for quick charging. This would lead me to beleive that the HTC 10 supports both methods of fast charging. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find anywhere on HTC's site that specifies what the USB port actually is. My guess is that it is USB 3.1 compatible but not USB 3.1 compliant. by USB 3.1 compatible I am saying it will do everything that a compliant port will do except the USB-PD charging. We actually know that the port is not USB 3.1 compliant as the USB standard does not allow the method of fast charging that QC 3.0 utilizes.
I hope this helps to clear some things up. Once again I am no expert, but this is the way it appears to work as far as I can tell. If there is anything that I have wrong, please let us know and I can change it.
Thanks
jsaxon2 said:
I've been trying to research and I have come up with a conclusion. This is only my opinion, but I have based it off of hours of research. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
Is QC QuickCharge 3.0 charger going to hurt my phone or anyy other devices I may plug into it?
Best I can figure is no. QC 3.0 chargers are designed to only fast charge if it is connected to a QC 3.0 device. Before it starts fast charging, it does a negotiation withh the device to verify if it supports QC 3.0. "Also, since Quick Charge is compatible and interoperable, a certified adapter can be used with a non-Quick Charge device, though the fast charging benefits of Quick Charge will not be available. " : Source
Can my HTC 10 be charged qith a non QC 3.0 charger?
The simple answer is yes. If you use one of the many non-QC 3.0 chargers that you have laying around, it will charge your phone just fine. This is as long as you use a compliant cable with the 56k ohm resistor. More on that next.
Does it matter which USB cable I use?
This one is tricky. I do not have an HTC 10 yet, but I have heard that it comes with a USB 2.0 Type A to USB 3.0 Type C cable. I can't find the source now, but it was in the Mega Thread. If this is true, than you should be able to use any cable this spec or better. By better I mean a USB 3.0 Type A to USB 3.1 Type 3 cable should work fine. The most important part is that the USB cable MUST have a 56k ohm resister. There have been some cheap cables using a 10k ohm resister that could cause problems. These problems could result in the port on the device or the charger getting damaged.
Will the HTC 10 work with a USB-PD charger?
Well first, USB-PD stands for USB-Power Delivery. This is the new USB fast charging standard set by the USB gods. This technology allows devices to receive more power and thus would allow a phone to charge more quickly. This is NOT the same as QC 3.0. QC 3.0 is a proprietary charging system and only available on certain Qualcomm powered devices. So can the HTC 10 use USB-PD? My guess is no but I could be wrong. According to GSMArena, the HTC 10 has aa USB 3.1 port. USB 3.1 supports USB-PD for quick charging. This would lead me to beleive that the HTC 10 supports both methods of fast charging. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find anywhere on HTC's site that specifies what the USB port actually is. My guess is that it is USB 3.1 compatible but not USB 3.1 compliant. by USB 3.1 compatible I am saying it will do everything that a compliant port will do except the USB-PD charging. We actually know that the port is not USB 3.1 compliant as the USB standard does not allow the method of fast charging that QC 3.0 utilizes.
I hope this helps to clear some things up. Once again I am no expert, but this is the way it appears to work as far as I can tell. If there is anything that I have wrong, please let us know and I can change it.
Thanks
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Yes it is compliant.... This is why USB 2.0 devices were able to have quick charging. The type C port is no different.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8539/...ard-device-class-v10-specifications-finalized
Version 3.1 now supports 5 V, 12 V, and 20 V on the pins to allow the higher power output without excessive current, but even the current has been increased to a maximum of 5 A which is much higher than before.
The HTC 10 does support 3.1 as their tech page says it support USB 3.1 gen 1
http://www.htc.com/us/go/buy-htc-10/#unlocked
Buttons Keys and Connection Ports
3.5 mm stereo audio jack, USB 3.1 Gen 1, Type-C, Capacitive keys
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I wanted to add if you are part of the Elevate program you can see the white papers and it shows it is USB 3.1 Gen 1 type-c
If someone wants to host the file I will gladly upload it.
Tidbits said:
Yes it is compliant.... This is why USB 2.0 devices were able to have quick charging. The type C port is no different.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8539/...ard-device-class-v10-specifications-finalized
Version 3.1 now supports 5 V, 12 V, and 20 V on the pins to allow the higher power output without excessive current, but even the current has been increased to a maximum of 5 A which is much higher than before.
The HTC 10 does support 3.1 as their tech page says it support USB 3.1 gen 1
http://www.htc.com/us/go/buy-htc-10/#unlocked
Buttons Keys and Connection Ports
3.5 mm stereo audio jack, USB 3.1 Gen 1, Type-C, Capacitive keys
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Your kinda missing the point. The the HTC 10 is NOT compliant. It goes against the USB-C spec, "These, and any charger you see that supports QC3.0 over USB Type-C, might be QC3.0 certified but they're not following the USB-C spec." Source. If you are not following the spec, you are not compliant. You can be compatible without being compliant. Anyway, I don't care if you want to call it compliant or not. What I am getting at is that it most likely does not support the USB Power Delivery for fast charge. And if it does not support USB-PD, than it is not a USB 3.1 compliant port. USB 3.1 standard includes USB-PD Source. So the HTC whitepapers say it is a USB 3.1 port. That is great. If it does USB-PD fast charging, than that would be awesome.
jsaxon2 said:
Your kinda missing the point. The the HTC 10 is NOT compliant. It goes against the USB-C spec, "These, and any charger you see that supports QC3.0 over USB Type-C, might be QC3.0 certified but they're not following the USB-C spec." Source. If you are not following the spec, you are not compliant. You can be compatible without being compliant. Anyway, I don't care if you want to call it compliant or not. What I am getting at is that it most likely does not support the USB Power Delivery for fast charge. And if it does not support USB-PD, than it is not a USB 3.1 compliant port. USB 3.1 standard includes USB-PD Source. So the HTC whitepapers say it is a USB 3.1 port. That is great. If it does USB-PD fast charging, than that would be awesome.
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Benson assumes it isn't compliant because
1. He doesn't have the device.
2. He can't find what USB port is being used
So since he can't find this information that he can't recommend something is on the basis that he doesn't want to approve something because he doesn't know. I bet if he saw the information I just showed and he sees the white paper he'll change what he said.
Why would it not be compliant when USB 2.0 devices can charge using the exact same voltage yet a 3.1 port can't? Think about it for a minute. It would be cheaper if they were not compliant to NOT use, and not give a QC 3.0 charger... Much like Google did with the 5X and 6P probably to save on costs.
Tidbits said:
Benson assumes it isn't compliant because
1. He doesn't have the device.
2. He can't find what USB port is being used
So since he can't find this information that he can't recommend something is on the basis that he doesn't want to approve something because he doesn't know. I bet if he saw the information I just showed and he sees the white paper he'll change what he said.
Why would it not be compliant when USB 2.0 devices can charge using the exact same voltage yet a 3.1 port can't? Think about it for a minute. It would be cheaper if they were not compliant to NOT use, and not give a QC 3.0 charger... Much like Google did with the 5X and 6P probably to save on costs.
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Okay, I wait for him to get the device then. You still can't be compliant and break the rules though. You can be compatible though. As for the 5x and 6p, they support the USB-PD fast charging. This kept google with the USB standard. HTC chose to go with the QC 3.0 proprietary solution most likely because it works better. QC 3.0 only has to work with select QC devices and therefore can be tailored to exactly what they need. USB-PD will have to work across multiple device types from multiple manufacturers. This leaves room for inefficiencies. That would be my opinion.
jsaxon2 said:
Okay, I wait for him to get the device then. You still can't be compliant and break the rules though. You can be compatible though. As for the 5x and 6p, they support the USB-PD fast charging. This kept google with the USB standard. HTC chose to go with the QC 3.0 proprietary solution most likely because it works better. QC 3.0 only has to work with select QC devices and therefore can be tailored to exactly what they need. USB-PD will have to work across multiple device types from multiple manufacturers. This leaves room for inefficiencies. That would be my opinion.
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That shows to me it doesn't support USB-PD 2.0 which supports up to 20V to the pins
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8539/u...ions-finalized
When USB was first introduced, the thought was that it would be primarily a data interface, with a limited amount of power delivery which was generally used to power the electronics of certain devices. The initial specification for USB only had provisions for 0.75 watts of power – 150 mA at 5 V. USB 2.0 bumped that to 500 mA, or 2.5 watts, and USB 3.0 specified 900 mA at 5 V, or 4.5 watts. All of these specifications allow for power as well as data transmission at the same time. In addition, there was also a Battery Charging specification which allows up to 1.5 A at 5 V for a maximum of 7.5 watts of power but with no data transmission available. The jump from 7.5 watts to 100 watts of the new specification is a huge increase, and one that cannot be done with just an amperage increase on the system as was done in the previous versions of USB. Version 3.1 now supports 5 V, 12 V, and 20 V on the pins to allow the higher power output without excessive current, but even the current has been increased to a maximum of 5 A which is much higher than before.
That right there makes it possible for QC 3.0 to happy while staying PD 2.0 compliant.
Tidbits said:
That shows to me it doesn't support USB-PD 2.0 which supports up to 20V to the pins
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8539/u...ions-finalized
When USB was first introduced, the thought was that it would be primarily a data interface, with a limited amount of power delivery which was generally used to power the electronics of certain devices. The initial specification for USB only had provisions for 0.75 watts of power â?? 150 mA at 5 V. USB 2.0 bumped that to 500 mA, or 2.5 watts, and USB 3.0 specified 900 mA at 5 V, or 4.5 watts. All of these specifications allow for power as well as data transmission at the same time. In addition, there was also a Battery Charging specification which allows up to 1.5 A at 5 V for a maximum of 7.5 watts of power but with no data transmission available. The jump from 7.5 watts to 100 watts of the new specification is a huge increase, and one that cannot be done with just an amperage increase on the system as was done in the previous versions of USB. Version 3.1 now supports 5 V, 12 V, and 20 V on the pins to allow the higher power output without excessive current, but even the current has been increased to a maximum of 5 A which is much higher than before.
That right there makes it possible for QC 3.0 to happy while staying PD 2.0 compliant.
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Everything you posted is usb-pd specs. I agree. The difference is that qc 3.0 uses the data pins as well where usb-pd does not. They are two different approaches to achieving a common goal. While QC 3.0 does not apply more power than the spec allows, is does supply the power in a way that goes against the spec.
jsaxon2 said:
Everything you posted is usb-pd specs. I agree. The difference is that qc 3.0 uses the data pins as well where usb-pd does not. They are two different approaches to achieving a common goal. While QC 3.0 does not apply more power than the spec allows, is does supply the power in a way that goes against the spec.
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Do you have the papers showing this? I haven't seen anything that says it goes through the data channels.
Either way the fact that PD2.0 rates 20V debunks the cable or connector can only handle 5V arguments.
I'm not sure if it was said but USB 3.1 =/= USB 3.1 Gen 1.
Especially in response to "The HTC 10 does support 3.1 as their tech page says it support USB 3.1 gen 1"
USB 3.1 with it's 10Gbit/s speed along other specs, features etc. was originally called USB 3.1.
USB 3.0 with it's 5Gbit/s speed along other specs, features etc. was originally called USB 3.0.
USB 3.0 =/= USB 3.1
Got that?
USB 3.0 > USB 3.1 Gen 1
USB 3.1 > USB 3.1 Gen 2
Why? Because retards.
Also marketing wankers. "Looky looky, our product has USB 3.1 Gen 1 which means it's better than USB 3.0."
Same story happened with LTE and 4G. Carriers/ISP's begged/forced the 3GPP to allow them to call LTE as 4G when LTE-Advanced is what 4G is.. LTE is more like 3.9G
And if I'm not mistaken, you Americans also had 3G HSPA+ disguised as 4G when it's actually 3.75G? And when LTE rolled out they just called it LTE.
tl;dr? HTC 10 has a USB 3.1 Gen 1 port or in other words USB 3.0.
lagittaja said:
I'm not sure if it was said but USB 3.1 =/= USB 3.1 Gen 1.
Especially in response to "The HTC 10 does support 3.1 as their tech page says it support USB 3.1 gen 1"
USB 3.1 with it's 10Gbit/s speed along other specs, features etc. was originally called USB 3.1.
USB 3.0 with it's 5Gbit/s speed along other specs, features etc. was originally called USB 3.0.
USB 3.0 =/= USB 3.1
Got that?
USB 3.0 > USB 3.1 Gen 1
USB 3.1 > USB 3.1 Gen 2
Why? Because retards.
Also marketing wankers. "Looky looky, our product has USB 3.1 Gen 1 which means it's better than USB 3.0."
Same story happened with LTE and 4G. Carriers/ISP's begged/forced the 3GPP to allow them to call LTE as 4G when LTE-Advanced is what 4G is.. LTE is more like 3.9G
And if I'm not mistaken, you Americans also had 3G HSPA+ disguised as 4G when it's actually 3.75G? And when LTE rolled out they just called it LTE.
tl;dr? HTC 10 has a USB 3.1 Gen 1 port or in other words USB 3.0.
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USB 3.1 gen 1 only works with type C connectors on eqch end to get those speeds. That's why you don't see USB 3.0 type C cables or USB 3.1 A to C cables.
My laptop makes that distinction as well. All my ports are 3.0, but my type C ports are USB 3.1 gen 2.
Even Monoprice for example. All their C to C are 3.1, but as soon as one is a different connector they are all 3.0.
http://www.monoprice.com/pages/usb_31_type_c
Of course this is my understanding and what my laptop maker explained to me.
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Tidbits said:
USB 3.1 gen 1 only works with type C connectors on eqch end to get those speeds. That's why you don't see USB 3.0 type C cables or USB 3.1 A to C cables.
My laptop makes that distinction as well. All my ports are 3.0, but my type C ports are USB 3.1 gen 2.
Even Monoprice for example. All their C to C are 3.1, but as soon as one is a different connector they are all 3.0.
http://www.monoprice.com/pages/usb_31_type_c
Of course this is my understanding and what my laptop maker explained to me.
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The USB spec etcetera is a deep rabbit hole and the renaming of USB 3.0 didn't help things at all.
You don't need type C-C cable for USB 3.1 Gen 1. USB 3.1 Gen 1 is what we used to know as USB 3.0. You can have USB 3.0 or USB 3.1 Gen 1 with USB A-A or A-microB (the weird 3.0 micro) or A-B or A-C or C-C or whatever the variation you can think of.
The reason you don't see USB 3.0 C-C cables is because chicken and the egg. The original USB 3.0 spec was released before the type C..
Type C was developed at the same time as the now finalized USB 3.1 spec, which absorbed the original USB 3.0 spec as USB 3.1 Gen 1 and the USB 3.1 we knew before is now known as USB 3.1 Gen 2, and was (C spec) released alongside the USB 3.1 spec which it supplements.
No USB 3.1 A-C cables? Ahem. http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F2CU029/
Also, just please try and forget the USB x.x with the type C.
Type C is type C. It is a physical connector, it's a cable/connector standard.
Just like mini B or micro B or B or A for that matter..
USB x.x is a technology standard.
USB-PD is a technology standard.
They are not the same thing.
They are not dependent on each other.
In other words, you can have type C with USB 2.0 if you so wish, look at the Nexus 5X and 6P..
http://www.usb.org/developers/usbty...ge_Product_and_Packaging_Guidelines_FINAL.pdf
Please note the following:
USB Type-C™ is not USB 3.1
The USB Type-C™ cable and connector specification is a supplement to the USB 3.1 specification, however USB Type-C™ is not USB 3.1.
These terms are not interchangeable.​
USB Type-C™ is not USB Power Delivery
USB Power Delivery is a protocol/hardware solution that increases USB power capabilities up to 100W.
These terms are not interchangeable.​
If a product features USB Type-C™ it does not necessarily support USB Power Delivery and/or USB 3.1
Device manufacturers can choose to support USB Power Delivery and/or USB 3.1 performance but it is not required for USB Type-C™ products​
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Samsung Note 7 violates the USB Type-C Spec?

Seems that Samsung is the latest major smartphone vendor to offer proprietary charging over USB-C. You guys can check google engineer Benson's explanation:https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/cEvVQLXhyRX
jisddwqs said:
Seems that Samsung is the latest major smartphone vendor to offer proprietary charging over USB-C. You guys can check google engineer Benson's explanation:https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/cEvVQLXhyRX
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The article you're quoting singles out Qualcomm's QuickCharge. Do we know how USB C is implemented on Exynos Note7's?
From the article...
The difference is that Qualcomm's solution is very proprietary, and it takes over the D+/D- (usb data) lines for good, so that Type-A port can't be used to communicate to your PC at the same time you fast charge.
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I don't understand what's being lost according to the above quote. It implies you can't fast charge a Qualcomm device from a computer when using data but how many computers output enough AMPs when the USB ports are daisy chained? I think I've connected my year-old Note 5 to a PC via USB like four times. Most of the time I have it connected to my PC wirelessly via SideSync, Wi-Fi direct, or BT while it's sitting on a fast charger. Easier to grab it for calls and less wear on the USB port. With Apple's killing of the headphone jack we're heading faster and faster toward a wireless world. USB C's future and benefit is really supporting throughput for consumptive applications like VR.
Also, if anyone's looking for "pure" anything, Samsung should be low on their list. Samsung's known for putting their own imprint on standards and functions. Pure = Nexus.

No USB OTG support?!

This one's a shocker for me. Lot of websites lists OTG as one of the supported features of the XZ1 Compact, but today I was unable to use it and turned to Google for help.
My search turned up this recent thread on Sony's forums: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...G-support-for-Xperia-XZ1-Compact/td-p/1266035
An official Sony representative seems to confirm that OTG is not supported. Noooooooo!
Xperia devices do currently not support USB On-The-Go (USB OTG), but they do support the USB Host standard.
Xperia XZ1 Compact support the following; HID, USB hub, USB mass storage and Audio. Unfortunately we cannot guarantee compatibility with third party USB accessories. However do make sure that you are using a USB-host adapter and not just a USB cable.
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99% of the time this phone works perfectly for me, but that 1% time when I need to use OTG... goddamn it. Yet another compromise.
So, let's see, no FM radio, no double tap to sleep/wake, distorted photos, and now no OTG. Wonder what new missing feature I'll discover next for f***'s sake.
The XZ1C is certainly no cheaper than any of the Z family compact series, yet they've removed so many useful features for unknown reasons.
Why, Sony? Why?
Why are you crippling your flagship phones?
Why are you the only player making top end spec'd phones in compact dimensions? I literally have no alternative option! (And no, the iPhone SE is not a competitive product, the screen is tiny and it's a few generations too old.)
S835 + 4GB RAM + 720p 4.6" screen + 2700mAh battery is a freaking sweet winning combo, plus SD card, 3.5mm jack, fingerprint sensor and waterproof - they are all insta-buy bullet points... but all these little pitfalls man, really, really sticks out like a sore thumb.
Can't express my disappointment enough.
What were you trying to use USB OTG for? I plugged in a flash drive and it worked.
Per Sony rep's reply, certain USB Host standards are supported (HID, USB hub, USB mass storage and Audio), which is why you were able to read the flash drive, but USB OTG isn't supported.
I'm trying to use a Easycap video adapter with my phone. It used to work with Z3C and Z5C, alas, no longer.
It appears that I'm having issues as well.
I yet have to try some other Type-C adapters.
That sucks. It was also useful for making backups if your screen is broken. With the digitiser bonded to the LCD in some brands like Sony's, cracked glass means unusable touch.
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I tried my xz1 compact OTG USB with solid explorer with OTG plugin, the result looks solid explorer on the USB OTG but then does not display it in the explorer menu, there is something wrong with it.
OTG WORKS.
Bull****. NOT CONFIRMED. XZ1 Compact with USB mouse works.
williamgrant said:
Bull****. NOT CONFIRMED. XZ1 Compact with USB mouse works.
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Direct quote from Sony's official rep:
Xperia devices do currently not support USB On-The-Go (USB OTG), but they do support the USB Host standard.
Xperia XZ1 Compact support the following; HID, USB hub, USB mass storage and Audio.
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So of course USB mouse is expected to work, as are USB flash drives. But OTG is not supported.
Exactly.
Which is unfortunate, because I think my FLIR One relies on OTG functionality.
I'll see about that once I get my adapters.
Sony have really dialled back on what they support. No "Remote Shares" is the one that bugs me the most. My Z3C was the best phone I've ever owned, this one is turning out to be a bit of a lemon. Which I had bought a OnePlus 5 or Honor 9 now.
Functions
mhaha said:
Direct quote from Sony's official rep:
So of course USB mouse is expected to work, as are USB flash drives. But OTG is not supported.
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OTG is not supported, but all OTG functions works? What is your problem?
williamgrant said:
OTG is not supported, but all OTG functions works? What is your problem?
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If anyone has a problem, it's you with that attitude of yours. I don't really understand the need for such hostility.
I've quoted straight from the horse's mouth that OTG is not supported, the source is linked in my original post.
If you believe there's a contradiction in that statement, please take your argument to Sony's rep.
The OTG function I was able to use previously on my Z5C (which supports OTG) is no longer working on the XZ1C.
So your claim that all OTG functions works is questionable.
Did a quick test. Usb SD-Card, usb mouse, usb keyboard and usb UVC video (is this OTG?) are working. All tested via usb-x to usb-c adapters.
Update: Did the test on latest firmware update: 47.1.A.2.374
bvhoesel said:
Did a quick test. Usb SD-Card, usb mouse, usb keyboard and usb UVC video (is this OTG?) are working. All tested via usb-x to usb-c adapters.
Update: Did the test on latest firmware update: 47.1.A.2.374
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The video thing is good to hear.
Mind if I ask, what adapters do you use? Do you happen to have a link for them?
4rz0 said:
The video thing is good to hear.
Mind if I ask, what adapters do you use? Do you happen to have a link for them?
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For the full size usb to c I order the following:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New...-3-0-Female-Adapter-OTG-Data/32798937324.html
Out of three ordered two worked for OTG. One did not.
For micro to c I ordered:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Min...r-converter-for-Macbook-Letv/32788873052.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB...r-Converter-Connector-For-LG/32694996723.html
They worked for OTG (so far).
For c I also ordered:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Met...nnector-Type-C-Male-to-USB-2/32815823175.html
No luck on OTG, only 'normal'.
Be aware, your mileage still may vary. Tested adapters also on a Pixel but that gave different results. Some worked on both, some only one of the two. Do not know the details at the moment.
thanks for your input I'll probably buy one of them. I was wondering though, anyone manage to get ethernet working? There's no grayed out ethernet option..
thinking about getting this one: amazon.com/Smays-Ethernet-compatible-Raspbian-Raspberry/dp/B00L32UUJK (sorry forum wouldn't let me make a link)
the otg with the new firmware and ok 471.A.2..374
this isn't the xperia z1 compact.
luisdev said:
the otg with the new firmware and ok 471.A.2..374
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I believe you're in the wrong thread. searching "firmware 14.4.a.0.157" in google only comes up with xperia z1 compact results. Are you saying that the firmware update is compatible with the xperia xz1 compact?
EDIT: Sorry, my mistake. I realized that its also for the xperia xz1 compact. I found out by going to Settings>System>About phone
I might have to return mine, it seems that OTG does not work for me.
I already tried various devices with 3 different adaptors, none of them even get powered.
I tried micro to type C adaptor by Nillkin, not working.

Changing USB flex cable on Z2 Plus

Has anyone every changed USB flex cable assembly on Zuk Z2 131-132 (not pro). My usb port is partially dead: only takes charge from QC-3 charger. E-bay and Aliexpress only list parts for Zuk Edge and Zuk Z2 pro. They are different cable. Could anyone share their experience?
optimumpro said:
Has anyone every changed USB flex cable assembly on Zuk Z2 131-132 (not pro). My usb port is partially dead: only takes charge from QC-3 charger. E-bay and Aliexpress only list parts for Zuk Edge and Zuk Z2 pro. They are different cable. Could anyone share their experience?
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Never mind: there is no usb flex cable for Z2 131-132. It is part of the cpu/gpu plate.

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