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Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
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So the Note 4 is actually my first device I've owned where I didn't have an unlocked bootloader. Because of this, I'm not sure whether all the modifications I've made to my past devices were enabled because I had an unlocked bootloader.
The only thing I know we can't do is install custom roms.
So... that leaves me with a question. What kinds of things can we do with just root?
On top of that, I have some specific questions (Might think of more later) :
Will root let us be able to install the auto-brightness control that the international version of the Note 4 has? If you don't know, you're able to adjust how low or high the auto brightness stages will go without turning off auto brightness on that version. It's so much nicer than having to turn off auto, adjust to where you want, and then remember to turn auto back on when you leave that environment.
Can we remap the capacitive multitask button to be a menu button instead? And to remap long-pressing that button to be the new multitask?
Thanks!
There's safe strap which allows us to have custom roms.
droidx2.3.3 said:
There's safe strap which allows us to have custom roms.
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did they get a safestrap to work?
I'm assuming that they will. I suppose I should have worded my post different.
So it should have said, if we get safe strap we will be able to have custom roms.
It's not quiet the same as a unlocked bootloader though.
We have root?
what proof?
Well regardless of whether we have custom roms through some other means, I'd personally most interested in those 2 questions I stated. That's honestly the things I want most with root at the moment.
Where is root?
Root has not been proven yet. Patience. Everyone is jumping the gun here.
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
Hobox10 said:
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
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My main and only real reason for wanting root is for Ad Block ESPECIALLY in youtube. I hate those commercials... You can install Ad Block without root (as I just did) but it just doesn't seem to work as well as it did with my last rooted device... Although I'm not sure if this is the app devs getting more creative with how they get ads through or possibly even a Lollipop things...
The other main reason was so Rocket Player could delete podcasts I had already listened too.. That was resolved with the Lollipop update so I am good to go there...
Some really like Root for Titanium backup to back up ALL app data and settings... This was handy for me back when I was flashing ROMS all the time but without that capability I don't see myself having much of a need for that since the games I play store the data in the Android folder which I don't need root to copy/backup
Another great thing that has come about the last year or so is Xposed modules.. These give you just about ANY customization you could possibly want but of course in order to use them you will also need root..... There is a great app that pulls the commercials from Youtube which I will be checking out if Root is actually here... As I said before I hate hate the ads... Not that I don't buy FULL versions of some of the apps if I find them useful because I do... But with things like Chrome and Youtube I really miss the option of them being disabled... Yes I know Firefox has this built in but I like y Chrome for the ability to send pages from my PC to my phone with the click of a button....
I find that the Note 4 with the help of Apex PRO has helped me gain many of the features I once wanted Root and the ability to flash things for... So now I am just looking for the ability to kill some ads....
There are also a few apps I would delete or freeze with Titanium Backup once we had that option... Turning them off is nice but I want the space back...
dr12volt1338 said:
My main and only real reason for wanting root is for Ad Block ESPECIALLY in youtube. I hate those commercials... You can install Ad Block without root (as I just did) but it just doesn't seem to work as well as it did with my last rooted device... Although I'm not sure if this is the app devs getting more creative with how they get ads through or possibly even a Lollipop things...
The other main reason was so Rocket Player could delete podcasts I had already listened too.. That was resolved with the Lollipop update so I am good to go there...
Some really like Root for Titanium backup to back up ALL app data and settings... This was handy for me back when I was flashing ROMS all the time but without that capability I don't see myself having much of a need for that since the games I play store the data in the Android folder which I don't need root to copy/backup
Another great thing that has come about the last year or so is Xposed modules.. These give you just about ANY customization you could possibly want but of course in order to use them you will also need root..... There is a great app that pulls the commercials from Youtube which I will be checking out if Root is actually here... As I said before I hate hate the ads... Not that I don't buy FULL versions of some of the apps if I find them useful because I do... But with things like Chrome and Youtube I really miss the option of them being disabled... Yes I know Firefox has this built in but I like y Chrome for the ability to send pages from my PC to my phone with the click of a button....
I find that the Note 4 with the help of Apex PRO has helped me gain many of the features I once wanted Root and the ability to flash things for... So now I am just looking for the ability to kill some ads....
There are also a few apps I would delete or freeze with Titanium Backup once we had that option... Turning them off is nice but I want the space back...
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I'm with you on the adblock and it's one of the things I've been looking forward too also. The ads mobile gets is ridiculous, I'm fine with them on most websites on the computer but the mobile versions really kill some things.
Xposed is an interesting topic to me, I've never had any experience with it since I've never really needed it. It will be fun to see what they do. Thanks for the info.
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Do you know if they release their root tool now? If they do, where is it?
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Do you know if they release their root tool now? If they do, where is it?
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The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
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The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
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Good point I forgot about being able to add multi window for non supported apps... It would be really nice for Tapatalk to support it
Ooh multi-window on almost any app sounds awesome!
you can remove pre-loaded carrier apps that cause sluggish instability. improve battery life, and speed up application start times.
Mw-pen app enabler, ive been using since i got this phone. Let's you add apps to multi window. Should work for non system apps. It's worked for me. been my solution until we get root, if we do.
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you can remove pre-loaded carrier apps that cause sluggish instability. improve battery life, and speed up application start times.
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Just an fyi: You can disable bloatware without having root by using @gatesjunior's Debloater utility. Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294
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The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
Sent from my SM-N915V
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Daciple said:
Mw-pen app enabler, ive been using since i got this phone. Let's you add apps to multi window. Should work for non system apps. It's worked for me. been my solution until we get root, if we do.
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I had no idea that existed or was possible without root. Great find!
I just tried out root for my Note 7 using the Sprint ROM method and I noticed I can't use the gear app. I don't currently have my laptop with me so I can't manually push Xposed, so is there any way to hide the app from seeing root from my phone itself?
I haven't used a rooted phone since my S6 and I don't really know about all this new stuff, or why Samsung would block a simple watch app from rooted phones.
Samsung doesn't allow the Gear app to run on rooted devices because it can be used with Samsung Pay.
Chainfire has a new method to hide root from apps without requiring Xposed, but you better know what you're doing.
It has no UI.
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Samsung doesn't allow the Gear app to run on rooted devices because it can be used with Samsung Pay.
Chainfire has a new method to hide root from apps without requiring Xposed, but you better know what you're doing.
It has no UI.
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Well that's not good news, but is there anyway you could link it so I can take a look?
I might just flash back to stock and wait for the U firmware if it's that much of a hassle.
I'm also curious about this. I would like to be able to use pay, but also have the phone rooted as well.
Spud37 said:
I'm also curious about this. I would like to be able to use pay, but also have the phone rooted as well.
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Here's the article.
http://www.xda-developers.com/experimental-suhide-mod-for-supersu-hides-su-binary-from-applications/
There was a decent app for KK / LP but nothing has been made for M yet.
Not that my post is any help.. ^.^
Bank Aplication IKO NFC payments
IKO app is working but they added NFC payment and its not working
After fist launch there is NFC icon in IKO app menu but after tapping it, app will crash.
After second try icon just disappears.
Any ideas ? THx
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Samsung doesn't allow the Gear app to run on rooted devices because it can be used with Samsung Pay.
Chainfire has a new method to hide root from apps without requiring Xposed, but you better know what you're doing.
It has no UI.
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There is a method to make the Gear VR think your N7 is an S7. It requires root of course. There was a thread on this somewhere here a week ago or so.
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There is a method to make the Gear VR think your N7 is an S7. It requires root of course. There was a thread on this somewhere here a week ago or so.
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Did you find the method Teegunn? I would be very helpful
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Did you find the method Teegunn? I would be very helpful
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I can't find it now. That thread may have been removed possibly.
Hello i just came from apple and would like to know an easy step by step guide to rooting..
i was a pro at jailbreaking but when it comes to rooting i can tell its a different ball game
would it also be possible to root on an imac ? and my carrier is Verizon in the USA
Vic35 said:
Hello i just came from apple and would like to know an easy step by step guide to rooting..
i was a pro at jailbreaking but when it comes to rooting i can tell its a different ball game
would it also be possible to root on an imac ? and my carrier is Verizon in the USA
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Check out the tutorials for installing custom recoveries (TWRP) and rooting your phone in the other forum category:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development
As far as I know you'll need Windows to run ODIN and Samsung USB Drivers, I could be wrong though. Just read through the stuff.
Your bootloader is locked. It's impossible to root atm.
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Check out the tutorials for installing custom recoveries (TWRP) and rooting your phone in the other forum category:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development
As far as I know you'll need Windows to run ODIN and Samsung USB Drivers, I could be wrong though. Just read through the stuff.
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all those look like ALIEN writings to me...
is there a way to root like apple iphones ? where its clear and simple ?
a better explanation maybe would help
if someone can help me root my note 7 i can compensate
Vic35 said:
all those look like ALIEN writings to me...
is there a way to root like apple iphones ? where its clear and simple ?
a better explanation maybe would help
if someone can help me root my note 7 i can compensate
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Again, your bootloader is locked. So the simple answer is no.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 7.
in simple words, the bootloader is like the main gate to the internals of your phone, if locked, as on snpadragon based note 7, it is very, very difficult to root, the exynos note 7 are all open, there is at the moment only one method to root a snapdragon note 7, but I think it works only for AT&T
sucks and my 14 day return period is over ... now what
Now you learn the lesson... Never, ever, under any circumstance, buy a phone until you have verified it can be rooted. There had been an exploit for root with the SDs but Samsung fixed it in the replacement devices. You will hear people telling you root might still be attained and they are right but don't pin any hope on it.
Most people have been where you are and I number among them. The only thing you can do is sell the device, hope for root, learn your lesson. I'm sorry.
One difference is a lot of customizations are available In the basic Android software.... You may not have to root to get the features you want such as Free Hotspot (FoxFi), free music, peer to peer downloads etc...
May I ask what features you want on your phone that are only available if you "root" it??
3 minit battery, Viper4android and titanium backup are what I'm missing. ????
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One difference is a lot of customizations are available In the basic Android software.... You may not have to root to get the features you want such as Free Hotspot (FoxFi), free music, peer to peer downloads etc...
May I ask what features you want on your phone that are only available if you "root" it??
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I agree 1,000% @Braca Ganon. There are more apps available today that allows you to access the same features as root so rooting isn't really a necessity as it once used to be. I've rooted every phone I've owned but I have no need to with this phone. Even on my Note 5 I saw no need to root. I was able to debloat carrier apps( Package Disabler Pro), use hotspot( FoxFi and PdaNet combo), change themes and icons( Samsung Theme Store) and much more, Plus, if you do decide to root, you can kiss Samsung or Android Pay goodbye. I also saw some had issues with the Iris Scanner after rooting as well. I personally love the fact that whatever feature I want to use on my phone I can do so with no FCs or trial and error. Custom Roms are based on the Devs likes and dislikes so what you think is a cool feature or function the Dev of whatever rom you are on may think its not and remove it. Once that happens, its more than just adding an .apk to priv-app or system apps, changing permissions and rebooting. It's more involved. This world is light years ahead of an IPhone jailbreak. No disrespect but a 70 year old woman can jailbreak an IPhone. LoL. Op read up on the benefits of root and what you think you need it for. You may be able to get the best of both worlds and still enjoy all the features and functionality the Note 7 has to offer. Samsung has done an excellent job coming into the times as far as root is concerned. They are making it so we don't have to root and can enjoy the benefits and features of these insanely expensive devices. I suggest you use the phone for a bit to its full potential and if you still think you need root then go for it but I'm almost certain you will realize you won't need it. Ultimately, its up to you.
Anyone know how to hack pokemon without root ? This was my Main reason of rooting
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I agree 1,000% @Braca Ganon. There are more apps available today that allows you to access the same features as root so rooting isn't really a necessity as it once used to be. I've rooted every phone I've owned but I have no need to with this phone. .
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There is no app or combination of apps which can globally remove all ads everywhere on your phone without root. For me removing ads by itself is more than enough to make root an absolute necessity. Nor can any non root app allow you to modify your build.prop as you see fit. Nor can any non root app allow the full functionality that Ti performs. I can go on here for quite a long time but where I'm going is that if you had at one time rooted your phones and don't need it now you hadn't been using the power of root. Root access and what you can do with it has not changed. Nor does any app without root access now do anything an app couldn't do 5 years ago because root access is root access and the lack now is no different than the lack then. Manufacturers have done things like added a close all but everything they have added altogether as a group is only a fraction of what you can do with root.
Whether a person needs or wants root depends on the person but there is no substitute for root and there never will be in the current paradigm. I applaud offering up such fixes as are available on the market. It may be for the OP these are enough but they will not be a substitute for root. As he appears to be new to Android I don't want him to walk away from here thinking that root isn't needed. It may be and it may not be but if you want to make android your bich it absolutely must be had.
I want to root it to play pokemon go ....
Is there a non root version of that hack?
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There is no app or combination of apps which can globally remove all ads everywhere on your phone without root. For me removing ads by itself is more than enough to make root an absolute necessity. Nor can any non root app allow you to modify your build.prop as you see fit. Nor can any non root app allow the full functionality that Ti performs. I can go on here for quite a long time but where I'm going is that if you had at one time rooted your phones and don't need it now you hadn't been using the power of root. Root access and what you can do with it has not changed. Nor does any app without root access now do anything an app couldn't do 5 years ago because root access is root access and the lack now is no different than the lack then. Manufacturers have done things like added a close all but everything they have added altogether as a group is only a fraction of what you can do with root.
Whether a person needs or wants root depends on the person but there is no substitute for root and there never will be in the current paradigm. I applaud offering up such fixes as are available on the market. It may be for the OP these are enough but they will not be a substitute for root. As he appears to be new to Android I don't want him to walk away from here thinking that root isn't needed. It may be and it may not be but if you want to make android your bich it absolutely must be had.
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I use Adguard to remove ads globally from my phone and it works better, to me anyways, than Adaway or anything equivalent but this is just my usage. Everyone's MMV. As far as using the power of root, I was one of the biggest believers in root. However, I was tired of the trial and error associated with it while running other Custom Roms( notice I keep saying I as this is just my experience). There is nothing more frustrating than going to use a feature and get a FC because either it was removed or the files associated with it were removed. Then you have to go into the archives of a stock rom and try to restore what was deleted and hope it works. At one point I just ran a fully stock rom with root and that worked for me but we both know how useless that is when you're rooted. At the end of my post I suggested to the Op, since he is new to Android, to use Android without it for a bit and see how he fares. If he still finds root is necessary than go for it. I would never tell anyone what to do with their device but you and I both know that root is becoming more of a hassle these days because of all the added security. As a newbie, this can scare the crap out of someone but ultimately it is the Op's decision.
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Vic35 said:
I want to root it to play pokemon go ....
Is there a non root version of that hack?
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I don't play Pokemon Go. I also didn't know you needed root to play that game. I thought it was merely an app.
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Anyone know how to hack pokemon without root ? This was my Main reason of rooting
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Pokemon go can be played without any root... when the gps hack was available root WAS NOT required... it was a separate app through a different developer... it worked great for about a week, then niantic cut it off..
Once again I'm asking the OP why HE WANTS ROOT... He's coming from iphone...
Im not stupid enough to ask the Android central community as a whole why they want root... Ain't nobody got time for that
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Pokemon go can be played without any root... when the gps hack was available root WAS NOT required... it was a separate app through a different developer... it worked great for about a week, then niantic cut it off..
Once again I'm asking the OP why HE WANTS ROOT... He's coming from iphone...
Im not stupid enough to ask the Android central community as a whole why they want root... Ain't nobody got time for that
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I say half of pokemon go players are on a jailbreak / root playing from a fake location..
If someone can get me a non rooted version hack i can compensate you
I'm
Vic35 said:
I say half of pokemon go players are on a jailbreak / root playing from a fake location..
If someone can get me a non rooted version hack i can compensate you
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Yeah I read up on the newest hacks... it seems there's apps that don't require jailbreak but I don't know of any Android apps.. keep searching google. Someone will come up with an android hack before long... the first big hack was an android app
They will absolutely release a hack app for Android... just keep searching google
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/how-to/root-complete-stock-ph1-setup-root-t3461232 I have rooted my Verizon Note 7 using this method.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/how-to/root-complete-stock-ph1-setup-root-t3461232 I have rooted my Verizon Note 7 using this method.
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That only works on pre-recall PH1 Note 7's, you can't root the new Note 7's with PHE.
So after having root for a decent amount of time on this device I know that stuff like Android Pay and Samsung Pay do not work. So my question is, is there an Xposed module to bypass this, or any way in general to bypass this detection?
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So after having root for a decent amount of time on this device I know that stuff like Android Pay and Samsung Pay do not work. So my question is, is there an Xposed module to bypass this, or any way in general to bypass this detection?
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No the thing that android pay and samsung pay use is google's safetynet which you cant bypass without unlocking the bootloader which is currently impossible.
How many of you guys plan to root? Is it worth losing secure folder etc for easier themeing, magisk modules and better ad blocking?
I do miss swift installer even though synergy works OK
No.
Planning not to but say that every new phone lol
I didn't root my Note 9 (first ever android phone I didn't root), mostly because Adhell3, now that the app doesn't work anymore I don't know if I can manage without root... I guess we'll see...
No
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I've been rooting all my android phones since my first one (galaxy mini) but I stopped rooting after I bought my note 9. Now I only root my backup phones.
Theres just too many good features that I'll miss if I trip my knox.
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i think the question alot should research should be:
can i actually root before buying
I keep a rooted phone for certain things.
I don't root my daily drives now though. I think I burned myself out over the years. I prefer a stable, secure phone now.
HD2, I still love you though. ?
Every new galaxy phones I got didn't last a week without being rooted. It's my first time to buy a phone on its launching period. Most probably wont get rooted in a week or two, or maybe who knows hahaha.. depends on how our great devs would work on it lol
Rooted mine. For me i want to have the freedom of root. Don't care about the apps I loose
Already Rooted My Note 10+. Dr-Ketan Guide
No, I will not root it, samsung pay and secure folders are very useful features for me, I will only miss viper4A, I rooted my phones in the past, but it is not so necessary these days
Nope i use Samsung pay. And dont see much of a reason to root any more
Quick answer no rooting until samsung stop updates
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No, I will not root it, samsung pay and secure folders are very useful features for me, I will only miss viper4A, I rooted my phones in the past, but it is not so necessary these days
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Secure folder works on rooted too. Still it needs some patch. I have posted screenshot of secure folder yday on my root guide thread. Samsung pay won't. Still trying to work spay on gear, it is working on N8/N9 but yet not able to fix on N10. But I am on holidays and no twrp so cant dig much.
Probably later.
Because I'd like to keep the OTA updates.
liamR said:
I didn't root my Note 9 (first ever android phone I didn't root), mostly because Adhell3, now that the app doesn't work anymore I don't know if I can manage without root... I guess we'll see...
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Hey,
I was also a little bit frustrated that Adhell3 didn't work anymore, but I found an alternative that might help you. I am currently using my Note8 with an app called CCSWE App Manager (can be found on the playstore). This app with the coupled with the CCSWE App Manager Pro License (also found on the playstore but paid) app allows to disable packages, it uses KNOX. Not sure if it supports Note10, but works perfectly on my Note8.
I don't care about loosing Knox crap. I will root on day 1 of any device I own. Systemwide add blocking being my #1 reason. Also there is nothing like Titanium backup out there. IMO stock rooted is always great.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
There is so much that works without root, if I feel the need to, then I might, but until then......:good:
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Secure folder works on rooted too. Still it needs some patch. I have posted screenshot of secure folder yday on my root guide thread. Samsung pay won't. Still trying to work spay on gear, it is working on N8/N9 but yet not able to fix on N10. But I am on holidays and no twrp so cant dig much.
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Thank you Dr. ketan, As always you are the best! I will looking forward to your posts