Hey folks,
Recently I purchased a LG G3 on contract from Vodafone Australia (I got the G Watch free so it was a sweet deal). Although I had been using an iPhone prior to this, I'm in fact an Android lover and fan. I was using the iPhone due to unavoidable circumstances (no cash for a new one and this one was lying around at home). I did a lot of research and reading up before going for a new phone and decided on the G3, given its killer specs and impressive reviews.
But it's been two weeks now and its just problems after problems. I've not even rooted or installed any mods or such.
Audio issues - Inability to connect to external device via AUX cable. Like there's a lot of hissing and static but no audio output.
Until recently, my Audio Technica ATH M50's were working fine but today I discovered sound is playing only from the left speaker and the right one just hisses and crackles. Like when i navigate menu's and make selections, the hissing fluctuates.
Also, when I put a call on speaker phone, the mic does not work.
Yet again, when I use the handset speaker for a normal call, it hisses and crackles.
Overall I'm really disappointed with the audio performance. Everything else is alright considering the device is running an OEM skin along with factory settings.
My question is, are there any fixes for the above issues I have listed? Are they hardware based (not fixable) or software based (potentially fixable via a firmware update or mod, if and such when one becomes available) Does anyone else in Australia on Vodafone have the same issues? If so are you considering trading back on warranty for a new one. And yet again, what is the guarantee that the new device will be rid of all these issues?
Thanks,
Sezy.
crazy.sezy said:
Hey folks,
Recently I purchased a LG G3 on contract from Vodafone Australia (I got the G Watch free so it was a sweet deal). Although I had been using an iPhone prior to this, I'm in fact an Android lover and fan. I was using the iPhone due to unavoidable circumstances (no cash for a new one and this one was lying around at home). I did a lot of research and reading up before going for a new phone and decided on the G3, given its killer specs and impressive reviews.
But it's been two weeks now and its just problems after problems. I've not even rooted or installed any mods or such.
Audio issues - Inability to connect to external device via AUX cable. Like there's a lot of hissing and static but no audio output.
Until recently, my Audio Technica ATH M50's were working fine but today I discovered sound is playing only from the left speaker and the right one just hisses and crackles. Like when i navigate menu's and make selections, the hissing fluctuates.
Also, when I put a call on speaker phone, the mic does not work.
Yet again, when I use the handset speaker for a normal call, it hisses and crackles.
Overall I'm really disappointed with the audio performance. Everything else is alright considering the device is running an OEM skin along with factory settings.
My question is, are there any fixes for the above issues I have listed? Are they hardware based (not fixable) or software based (potentially fixable via a firmware update or mod, if and such when one becomes available) Does anyone else in Australia on Vodafone have the same issues? If so are you considering trading back on warranty for a new one. And yet again, what is the guarantee that the new device will be rid of all these issues?
Thanks,
Sezy.
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Use the warranty
I doubt it's Vodafone's fault, most probably lg's
The real problem with Vodafone is the coverage. It's only good for cities. I used to use Vodafone, now I'm on optus.
Exactly the same as I said here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57161767&postcount=8
I think a headphone amplifier would perhaps solve the 'issue'
Sounds like an LG issue. I'll also add that my included LG headphones are a lit quieter than any other pair i use
I own an Amazon fire phone, im old user of cyanogen mod on all my past phones (moto defy,moto g, moto g 2014) and im in love with front facing speakers (big media consumption) also i play alot games on my phone and casualy taking some photos (big fan of filters tho)
I cant decide witch phone should i buy between these two beauty's. Im planing on instaling google play edition software on m8 if i get too many cons from m9, im concern about the overheating situation and throttling.
Can someone replay a screanshoot with antutu or gheekbench score from the m9? Im curious about IT
Also i have another question, i Heard about 6.0 add a Nice function for the micro sd to make IT as internal memory, is IT true? Thank you for your time!
Samirmaibine said:
I own an Amazon fire phone, im old user of cyanogen mod on all my past phones (moto defy,moto g, moto g 2014) and im in love with front facing speakers (big media consumption) also i play alot games on my phone and casualy taking some photos (big fan of filters tho)
I cant decide witch phone should i buy between these two beauty's. Im planing on instaling google play edition software on m8 if i get too many cons from m9, im concern about the overheating situation and throttling.
Can someone replay a screanshoot with antutu or gheekbench score from the m9? Im curious about IT
Also i have another question, i Heard about 6.0 add a Nice function for the micro sd to make IT as internal memory, is IT true? Thank you for your time!
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Here's a capture from a Geekbench 3 test I just did on my M9.
I have both an M8 and an M9 and I would say that the Snapdragon 801 in the M8 gets much hotter than the 810 in the M9. I don't find that my M9 gets particularly hot at all, compared to the Snapdragon 801-based phones like the One M8/Galaxy S5/LG G3 (all of which I have on my desk at home). Besides, a throttled M9 is probably still as fast as a full-speed M8.
Yes, Android 6.0 on the M8 and M9 allows you to format your MicroSD as adoptable storage, which treats internal and MicroSD memory as a single large pool.
Samirmaibine said:
I own an Amazon fire phone, im old user of cyanogen mod on all my past phones (moto defy,moto g, moto g 2014) and im in love with front facing speakers (big media consumption) also i play alot games on my phone and casualy taking some photos (big fan of filters tho)
I cant decide witch phone should i buy between these two beauty's. Im planing on instaling google play edition software on m8 if i get too many cons from m9, im concern about the overheating situation and throttling.
Can someone replay a screanshoot with antutu or gheekbench score from the m9? Im curious about IT
Also i have another question, i Heard about 6.0 add a Nice function for the micro sd to make IT as internal memory, is IT true? Thank you for your time!
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M9 all day. M8 was great. M9, despite the bad rap it got in reviews and other online discussions, is better. I've had both and was pleased with both. M8 on a good custom rom probably has better battery life, though.
Im glad people enjoy this phone and gives me Hope for a brighter future, i see a smal gap between these two devices, im still undecided because all the pro features from the both sides, maybe money will Be the Most important factor for my choise.the m8 is starting from 250€ and the m9 400€
Samirmaibine said:
Im glad people enjoy this phone and gives me Hope for a brighter future, i see a smal gap between these two devices, im still undecided because all the pro features from the both sides, maybe money will Be the Most important factor for my choise.the m8 is starting from 250€ and the m9 400€
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Well...is that's the price difference, I'd be tempted to go with the 8
I owned the m8 and sold it cause I was low on cash. Later on I made a trade for an m9 since I missed the m8 so much. I have only had the m9 for a week so far but I have no complaints other than I noticed an echo on my one voice call I've made so far. Never had that on the m8 but could have been just a single incident. It's slightly faster than the m8. No overheating so far. The battery is about the same as the m8. For 250 vs 400 I'd probably pick the m8.
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Hello, new to the forum!
I've owned since last year a Sony Xperia Z3. It was pretty good at first, but it became more laggy as the time went by and it often overheats when running heavy apps. The battery is still OK, but doesn't feel as long-lasting as it were in its first few months.
I wanted to replace it with something newer but less pricey, and I read about the Lenovo P2 a couple of months ago. It seemed awesome for the price, with amazing battery life (I also like that the SD625 is efficient and doesn't easily overheat [?]) and a great AMOLED screen, according to reviews. But I read it had some weird bugs, which I'm not sure are all software.
One of them was audio being out of sync from video. Possibly it was only on the YouTube app. Was that fixed by the latest update?
Another was the speaker sound apparently getting distorted after an update. How is it now?
They also claim one of the updates harmed the battery life. Is that true? Do you feel it holds a charge worse now?
There were a couple of other things, but I don't remember all of it.
Also, yesterday I was looking at some other phones and the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x (SD625) seemed really nice to me! But, while I understand these are budget phones and thus don't expect it to be top-of-the-line, I want the camera to be decent+ and to my understanding, Xiaomi did a sneeky thing and switched the phone's camera module throughout the batches from Sony–which was said and shown to be the better one–to a Samsung and finally to an Omnivision one. I've seen comparison photos and it didn't seem too good, so the fact that they want you to pay the same price for a worse phone than the one early reviewers had is a letdown.
I looked at the GSMArena camera comparison tool and frankly, the P2's photos looked better than the Note 4's. I don't know what camera module is in the P2, but I assume the unit GSMArena used for their Note 4 profile is an earlier one, and thus is the Sony version. Perhaps they just took bad snaps or had a bad unit, because it seemed blurrier than I would have expected.
Anyway, sorry for the long mumbling and thanks in advance!
EDIT: Well, I now saw the thread with people complaining that video playback also started to skip frames and stutter, and apparently some unknown process keeps running in the background, causing this issue and draining the battery. Are any of these issues present in the available custom ROMs?
TLxda-d said:
Hello, new to the forum!
I've owned since last year a Sony Xperia Z3. It was pretty good at first, but it became more laggy as the time went by and it often overheats when running heavy apps. The battery is still OK, but doesn't feel as long-lasting as it were in its first few months.
I wanted to replace it with something newer but less pricey, and I read about the Lenovo P2 a couple of months ago. It seemed awesome for the price, with amazing battery life (I also like that the SD625 is efficient and doesn't easily overheat [?]) and a great AMOLED screen, according to reviews. But I read it had some weird bugs, which I'm not sure are all software.
One of them was audio being out of sync from video. Possibly it was only on the YouTube app. Was that fixed by the latest update?
Another was the speaker sound apparently getting distorted after an update. How is it now?
They also claim one of the updates harmed the battery life. Is that true? Do you feel it holds a charge worse now?
There were a couple of other things, but I don't remember all of it.
Also, yesterday I was looking at some other phones and the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x (SD625) seemed really nice to me! But, while I understand these are budget phones and thus don't expect it to be top-of-the-line, I want the camera to be decent+ and to my understanding, Xiaomi did a sneeky thing and switched the phone's camera module throughout the batches from Sony–which was said and shown to be the better one–to a Samsung and finally to an Omnivision one. I've seen comparison photos and it didn't seem too good, so the fact that they want you to pay the same price for a worse phone than the one early reviewers had is a letdown.
I looked at the GSMArena camera comparison tool and frankly, the P2's photos looked better than the Note 4's. I don't know what camera module is in the P2, but I assume the unit GSMArena used for their Note 4 profile is an earlier one, and thus is the Sony version. Perhaps they just took bad snaps or had a bad unit, because it seemed blurrier than I would have expected.
Anyway, sorry for the long mumbling and thanks in advance!
EDIT: Well, I now saw the thread with people complaining that video playback also started to skip frames and stutter, and apparently some unknown process keeps running in the background, causing this issue and draining the battery. Are any of these issues present in the available custom ROMs?
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Audio sink issue is fixed with latest official s244 nouget update.
Speaker performs as best in this price point. Loud and clear. No distortion at all.
Battery back up is only getting better as custom kernels are also getting released.
Stock, I get around 12-14 hours screen on time on a course of 3 days continuous use. No charging in between.
Screen quality is best. Good media viewing and gaming experience.
+Extremely high number of cistom roms are available now for this device.
senseijtitus said:
Audio sink issue is fixed with latest official s244 nouget update.
Speaker performs as best in this price point. Loud and clear. No distortion at all.
Battery back up is only getting better as custom kernels are also getting released.
Stock, I get around 12-14 hours screen on time on a course of 3 days continuous use. No charging in between.
Screen quality is best. Good media viewing and gaming experience.
+Extremely high number of cistom roms are available now for this device.
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Hello, thanks for the reply! Well, from what I read regarding the possible audio distortion - it likely isn't the best at this price range, as many other options don't have this issue. The question is whether it (and the other issues often quoted) happens because of official firmware bugs and thus whether it is absent from the custom ROMs
I guess you're using the stock, so perhaps other users would have a more clear answer to these.
TLxda-d said:
Hello, thanks for the reply! Well, from what I read regarding the possible audio distortion - it likely isn't the best at this price range, as many other options don't have this issue. The question is whether it (and the other issues often quoted) happens because of official firmware bugs and thus whether it is absent from the custom ROMs
I guess you're using the stock, so perhaps other users would have a more clear answer to these.
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I had used custom roms. I am not using them as daily drives as I need to gestures and properly working led notification for daily use.
Custom roms available for P2 are almost stable and can be used for daily use if you don't need those 2 features I mentioned. Audio quality is good if u use Dolby Atmos or v4a.
senseijtitus said:
I had used custom roms. I am not using them as daily drives as I need to gestures and properly working led notification for daily use.
Custom roms available for P2 are almost stable and can be used for daily use if you don't need those 2 features I mentioned. Audio quality is good if u use Dolby Atmos or v4a.
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But you did experience distortion from the speaker at some point? Did it also happen with the custom ROMs you tried?
And I actually have another question now: I read that it's better to buy the global P2a42 version if you're outside of China, but that many sellers take the Chinese P2c72 and simply change the firmware to the global one, then calling it "Global P2".
I can already see that there are band differences, and that not all of my local LTE bands are supported in the Chinese P2 (band 7 is missing, I didn't check regarding non-LTE bands). Are there any other differences?
And someone claimed that the 64gb/4gb RAM units are all by hardware Chinese P2c72. Is that true? I can't even find someone selling a non-64gb P2.
I'm on the latest firmware an have no problems at all.
Android.system and media.codec is consuming a lot of battery giving me only 5 hours of screen on time. Can anybody help me with this
Sutcliffe9 said:
I'm on the latest firmware an have no problems at all.
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Do you have the real global version (P2a42 hardware)?
debo12345 said:
Android.system and media.codec is consuming a lot of battery giving me only 5 hours of screen on time. Can anybody help me with this
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What version of P2 you have? P2a42 or the Chinese P2c72?
Seeing how many different reports about bugs being fixed or not come from current users, it makes me think maybe it has something to do with the version of your unit and its compatibility with the firmware.
And I can't find any normal seller of the P2a42 version, what the hell...
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Mine is the UK version updated to the latest ROW stock ROM and works perfectly.
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Why was it discontinued in the UK ?
Sutcliffe9 said:
Mine is the UK version updated to the latest ROW stock ROM and works perfectly.
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Why was it discontinued in the UK ?
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Well, the version sold in the UK must have been the actual ROW version. I can't find it available to me anywhere! And where it might be – it is sold for a crazy amount of money (and let's be real, it covers more frequencies but it is just 32gb vs 64gb). Why is this? Lenovo must still be manufacturing the P2a42 as it is still sold in East Asian stores, but I can't find any of them that ships abroad. Well, I found one Malaysian store that ships the P2a42 internationally, but it costs $300 already without the shipping and I'm from Israel, so they might not even ship to me (and they use DHL, which means 100% chance I'll have to pay an extra 17% when it arrives...).
It's really starting to seem to me like many of the complaints SOME of the userbase has is from using the non-ROW unit with a ROW ROM. Otherwise, I can't explain why everyone is saying they have the latest firmware but one is person is experiencing weird bugs and the other isn't.
And in specific regards to the frequency band coverage, I don't understand some of these Chinese sellers. Are they lying about the specifications, are they oblivious to the actual specifications, are do they just have access to some third kind of model? This frequency-support information for the P2a42 and then for the P2c72 came from the website pdadb.net (I found the links on XDA), and then there is the citation found on gearbest.com
This is some incoherent amalgam of the frequencies supported by either model, plus band 4 which isn't originally cited for either of them (though GSMArena does mention it, but it doesn't distinguish between the models and perhaps it's incorrect).
If you care about Netflix you must know that on this device you can only watch it in SD as HD would require better DRM certification which this phone lacks
Bought mine from Three UK for £200. Updated to Nougat ROW.
Everything works fine. No bugs. 4G including VOLTE works.
Very happy with this phone. A bargain for £200.
philje123 said:
Bought mine from Three UK for £200. Updated to Nougat ROW.
Everything works fine. No bugs. 4G including VOLTE works.
Very happy with this phone. A bargain for £200.
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So, you don't have any bugs in video playback? Like stuttering
No. Video playback is perfectly smooth no matter where I play it from (youtube, mx player, vlc etc)
philje123 said:
No. Video playback is perfectly smooth no matter where I play it from (youtube, mx player, vlc etc)
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That only makes me believe more that the bugs some users keep reporting only occur on the P2c72 model, perhaps after it's flashed with the international ROM. Otherwise it's just a really inconsistent quality control on Lenovo's part.
I'm trying to get my hands on the P2a42 model, but basically no one is selling these outside of South East Asia and India. I found a couple of eBay listings and they're way too expensive (if it even ships to Israel).
Then there is one guy from the UK who put his "like new, only used for month" P2 for auction. He didn't enable shipping for Israel, but I asked him whether he will ship (in case I'll bid and win). He says it would be OK, but he hasn't returned since the morning with a possible shipping quote.
I never buy used phones, but I thought if it's the only viable option for this P2, in truly good condition and for a reasonable price, then maybe (the current bid is already £150, though, and I'm not sure I should go much higher for this when it's used).
Sporkyz said:
If you care about Netflix you must know that on this device you can only watch it in SD as HD would require better DRM certification which this phone lacks
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What? This is weird. How can a device have the certification to watch Netflix but only up to a certain resolution?
I had P2a42 4GB-32GB version for about half a year ( 12/2016-06/2017 ) and it was great, no problems . Sold it only because the camera was nothing special. I now have LG G5se and have to charge it twice a day. Want to buy P2 again but with this bug i'm not realy sure if it would be a good idea.
Hope it only affects asian version.
TLxda-d said:
That only makes me believe more that the bugs some users keep reporting only occur on the P2c72 model, perhaps after it's flashed with the international ROM. Otherwise it's just a really inconsistent quality control on Lenovo's part.
I'm trying to get my hands on the P2a42 model, but basically no one is selling these outside of South East Asia and India. I found a couple of eBay listings and they're way too expensive (if it even ships to Israel).
Then there is one guy from the UK who put his "like new, only used for month" P2 for auction. He didn't enable shipping for Israel, but I asked him whether he will ship (in case I'll bid and win). He says it would be OK, but he hasn't returned since the morning with a possible shipping quote.
I never buy used phones, but I thought if it's the only viable option for this P2, in truly good condition and for a reasonable price, then maybe (the current bid is already £150, though, and I'm not sure I should go much higher for this when it's used).
What? This is weird. How can a device have the certification to watch Netflix but only up to a certain resolution?
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You can watch Netflix on any device but in order to access hd and higher resolutions your device has to have l3 wide one security, you can check your security level with the drminfo app. This is mostly an issue with Chinese manufacturers.
You can still watch it but not in hd
Sporkyz said:
You can watch Netflix on any device but in order to access hd and higher resolutions your device has to have l3 wide one security, you can check your security level with the drminfo app. This is mostly an issue with Chinese manufacturers.
You can still watch it but not in hd
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Well, I downloaded the app and on my Xperia Z3 it says (under Google Widevine Modular DRM) Security Level L1. Is that what you were referring to, and does that mean Netflix doesn't allow my Z3 to stream in HD because of the DRM?
I don't watch Netflix on my phone too often, though I thought it possibly looks lower than HD – though it doesn't bother me too much on the smaller screen.
But I did google "Netflix DRM" after you mentioned this and some results about rooted devices not being able to run/download the Netflix app due to DRM change came up.
And does anyone know of some service, in India, which allows you to deliver an item you purchased from a non-international store to their own address and then they ship it internationally to you?
I barely find any options for a real P2a42, but there is this Indian website Flipkart where they sell it for a reasonable price, only problem is they solely ship within India. I don't remember how are these called, but I heard of a couple US-based warehouses through which you can ship (for example) Amazon items which normally can't be shipped to you.
You can find the P2 on sale on gearbest for 208$. I'm thinking about selling my Moto Z Play and buy a new Lenovo p2.
razorsbk said:
You can find the P2 on sale on gearbest for 208$. I'm thinking about selling my Moto Z Play and buy a new Lenovo p2.
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Yeah, but that is the Chinese version. They just changed the ROM to the international one.
Check the supported frequency bands on a different website to see if the P2c72 model will actually work with your local cellular network, but either way they both explained how OTA updating won't work with the units they sell, and I think there might be a higher chance for the reported bugs to happen on these modded Chinese P2's.
So, I'm in a market for a new phone, and my current best bet is the xiaomi mi 10T pro. Now, since it's locked on my local telecom provider network, I can get it with a new 2 year contract, so no returns possible. Reading tons of reviews, and user experiences, I came to conclusion that it's a great hardware phone with a really crappy sowtware. The phone I cvan get has a MIUI12 version, but they can't say is it 12.0 or 12.5.
What are my concerns? I see that the biggest issues is car bluetooth connectivity, and WiFi connectivity. Both major issues for me.
I have a 2012 renault Scenic that doesn't use android auto, but a proprietary (arkamys and tomtom) system. If the phone comes with android 10, and I don't install any updates until a less buggy version of android 11 MIUI comes out.. should I be ok? Or if the system is android 11 out of the box.. Should I expect constant problems and simply avoid the phone? Are all xiaomi phones running MIUI12.5.1. affected?
Custom ROMs are not an option because that would void the 2 year warranty.
thank you
The Mi10T Pro is an excellent choice that gets better with every update.
I actually hated this phone a lot when I bought it due to the auto screen dimming being too harsh, so I also bought a Samsung Galaxy 20 FE 5G, then a P30 Pro, then a Poco F2 Pro and finally a Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra (& I tested them all equally) What I found was I hate under screen fingerprint sensors (the side mounted fingerprint sensor detection on the Mi10T Pro is instant) and despite the camera arrays on all the other phones being 'on paper' better I found the Xiaomi phone 'on average' took better shots. Also video recording is night and day better than all the other phones I tested with very little shimmer and balance correction/focus when the light started to get low.
As for MIUI I have never had an issue apart from the woefully lacking security updates but hopefully now I've manually updated to 12.5.5 (I was on Jan 2020 update waiting for an EU 12.5.1 from 12.1.1) updates should come quicker (& it's very stable)
As for connectivity I have not encountered any issues with Bluetooth streaming or connecting to headphones but I do not have the accessories you connect to.
Lastly the prices for these phones should drop like a stone as they have just announced the Mi11T & Pro so you may find it cheaper to buy one used after the Mi11T & Pro is released.
So.. you say I should go for it...Current price is around 270$.. Don't believe it will drop that much... more likely it will get taken out of the offer.
the main negative aspect of this phone is the camera... i came from lg v20 because it was the latest flagship phone with the infrared feature. a five years old phone still takes better pictures then the 10t pro... you rarely use the 108mp cam because the software sucks. so you are stuck with 13mp... also, this phone is missing some basic features like you cant plug and play using type-c to hdmi output....but for the price, is definitely a nice cheap phone to have for work maybe lol. or use it as a universal remote haha
I came from a huawei P7 phone...gone to samsung A30... Anything is better than A30. I don't need any special bells and whistles.. just that the bluetooth connectivity works, and GPS signal is stable..
paul999 said:
the main negative aspect of this phone is the camera... i came from lg v20 because it was the latest flagship phone with the infrared feature. a five years old phone still takes better pictures then the 10t pro... you rarely use the 108mp cam because the software sucks. so you are stuck with 13mp... also, this phone is missing some basic features like you cant plug and play using type-c to hdmi output....but for the price, is definitely a nice cheap phone to have for work maybe lol. or use it as a universal remote haha
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Change the Format to 3:4 in the drop down menu in Miui camera to have the pixel binned 27MP resolution.
So...I'm not getting any viable information here. If I get this phone, and keep it on android 10, ignoring updates, will the Bluetooth and WiFi work normally, and glitch free?
creborn said:
So...I'm not getting any viable information here. If I get this phone, and keep it on android 10, ignoring updates, will the Bluetooth and WiFi work normally, and glitch free?
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The wifi and Bluetooth are basic things that will work just right but it depends also on the devices which they connect to.