Download WindSprint 0.76 beta - Sept 27 here -16 MB PagePool
Download WindSprint 0.76 beta - Sept 27 here -12 MB PagePool
WindSprint 0.75 beta - Sept 26 here
WindSprint 0.5 beta - Sept 25 here
New rom I'm developing loosely based off of Ghettofreeryder and tobeychris' kitchen.
Big props to you kitchen guys for putting it out there and a BIG thanks to GF for helping me out today with some things. Maybe we'll get the new Rapael camera working soon.
Let me know if you have any issues or comments.
Oh, it's for Sprint.
TO DO:
Start with a base built off of the Sprint ROM dump. Shouldn't matter, but who knows.
Update YouTube
Reinclude PRL update and Provisioning features into settings
Fix Network Plugin icon
Disable Beam by default
Remove GSM stuff (There's even GSM stuff in the stock Sprint ROM) - Improved
Remove some of the fat, lots of stuff not used - Improved
Play with Pagepool and find a happy medium.
Possibly new Camera version
Tweak Camera settings to allow more modes and better quality video
Continue updating builds of various pieces of software.
Port Sprint graphics to newer Manilla Builds
See if there are any newer Imageon driver builds out there
Enable 4x mode for Wifi
Enable QuickPowerSave mode for WiFi
Features:
Code:
[b][COLOR="Lime"]Version 0.76 - 9.27.2008[/COLOR][/b]
Fixed double startup sound
Fixed Startup animation
Sprint Picturemail installs via CAB during customization.
Changed G-Sensor polling to 150ms
Cleaned up Sprint carrier setings, included epst2.epst
Removed useless themes
Removed some GSM files
Removed some useless files
A few more regedits
[b][COLOR="Lime"]Version 0.75 - 9.26.2008[/COLOR][/b]
SYS_20755
Opera 9.5 build 2392
-Removed Second home
Sprint Splash Animation
Fixed Sprint Theme for carrier Customizations
Enable VSync for OpenGL ES, not sure if it applies to D3D
[b]PagePool changed to 16[/b]
aGPS changed to Sprint Server IP
aGPS changed port to Sprint server port
aGPS Mode changed to 4
Various other small reg tweaks
Decreased G-sensor polling time to 100ms
Increased touch sensitivity
[B][COLOR="Lime"]Version 0.5 - 9.25.2008[/COLOR][/b]
SYS 20748
Audio Booster
Audio manager
Sprint Carrier Settings
Esmertec Jbed Java VM
Flash 3.1
G-Sensor Calibrator
HTC Album
HTC Camera
HTC Startup Animation (Changing to Sprint next ver)
Sprint Manilla
1% Battery
HTC GPS Tool
Google Maps 2.2.0.19
Enlarge Start Menu
Long Press End Key Editor
mHub
MP3 Trimmer
Opera 9.5.1938
Outlook Enhancements
Sprint PictureMail
QuickGPS (Will be adding more regedits to get even faster locks)
Second Today (Will be removed next version, bloat)
Smart Touch
PHM RegEdit
Streaming Media
YouTube
Teeter removed
Reserved for future use.
that rocks
Congrats on your success! This kicks ass. Now us Sprint users can share in the Diamond custom ROM love.
Updated! Now with less sound!
12 MB PagePool version is up as well.
any screenshot ?
thks
This is a good ROM. I have WindSprint .76 12MB PP on my phone at the moment, and it is very fast. The only issues I have run across so far are Opera crashing when loading hulu.com, date and time being 1 hour ahead (even after changing it), and double shutdown sounds.
what is sprint? can i use on normal diamond?
This is for Sprint CDMA (U.S.) phones only. GSM will not work.
By the way, after using this ROM all day, the battery life is excellent! Thanks for the hard work Mutiny!
sn0b0ard said:
This is a good ROM. I have WindSprint .76 12MB PP on my phone at the moment, and it is very fast. The only issues I have run across so far are Opera crashing when loading hulu.com, date and time being 1 hour ahead (even after changing it), and double shutdown sounds.
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I just tried Hulu.com on my Sprint Stock Rom using Opera. It doesn't work. I can load the page. However, when I select the clip, it just stays on the page where all of the episodes and clips for a TV show are listed. It says "Now Playing" under the clip I selected, but it's not actually playing anywhere. There aren't any other tabs under the browser and there's a "We're Sorry" under my running programs tab.
So, this may be more of an Opera issue and not a ROM issue.
Mutiny32 larger PP is causing bad glitching in my testing. and instability.
dynamic is the way to go bro
sn0b0ard said:
By the way, after using this ROM all day, the battery life is excellent! Thanks for the hard work Mutiny!
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huh? I flashed the rom, played with tf3d for a minute(seemed kinda choppy) put my contacts and programs back on, played with opera which was kinda slow for about 10 mins, my speed test was average 523kbps made one 4 minute phone call, no texts no emails and then let my phone sit on the couch untouched for 30 mins... so after a total of 1 hour after flashing, my phone's batter dropped from 91% to 73%...
had to go back to juicy's rom cuz i use my phone quite a bit sometimes and cant afford for it to die on me...
I will keep tabs on this thread for future use! Thanks for the hard work, its great to see more people creating roms for the diamonds! Its only a little time before we really find out the best configs for these phones!
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huh? I flashed the rom, played with tf3d for a minute(seemed kinda choppy) put my contacts and programs back on, played with opera which was kinda slow for about 10 mins, my speed test was average 523kbps made one 4 minute phone call, no texts no emails and then let my phone sit on the couch untouched for 30 mins... so after a total of 1 hour after flashing, my phone's batter dropped from 91% to 73%...
had to go back to juicy's rom cuz i use my phone quite a bit sometimes and cant afford for it to die on me...
I will keep tabs on this thread for future use! Thanks for the hard work, its great to see more people creating roms for the diamonds! Its only a little time before we really find out the best configs for these phones!
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I posted on ppcgeeks that the phone usage kills battery life, but I haven't noticed that much of a drop that you are experiencing.
Battery life, gmail, txt icon
Nice and fast ROM, but I can no longer send e-mail (gmail, receiving works fine). Sending worked with stock and ghettofreeryder sprint 1.05, but now I can't send no matter what I try (authentication, SSL enabled, etc). Anyone else have this problem?
Also, often the icon for new text message (looks like chat bubble) doesn't go away, even after I read my new texts. Occasionally TouchFlo itself crashes and I get back the HTC logo telling me "starting TouchFlo 3D" or whatnot.
Regularly I get dropped back to the home screen (not sure if this is a TouchFlo crash) right after I open an e-mail or start writing a text reply, never happened before with other ROMs.
Battery life is about 12-16hrs depending on usage. I never stuck with the stock Sprint long enough to get a baseline, but 12-16h (light usage) is better than I was getting with ghettofreeryder sprint 1.05. What do y'all get?
Oh yeah... also not thrilled that IE is default for opening email/txt msg links instead of Opera. Someplace in the registry I can change this?
The Team No Name Presents
Jelly MIUI JLM First Edition Beta 1.0
So I have yet another one for yall. I finished it up today and it is not too bad. Got everything working that can work in a jelly bean rom. Now dont expect the silky smoothness of Dirty Diablo but it is not gutter trash either. The biggest lag is in the lockscreen. This is a rebuilt rom from miui.us build 2.12.28 which had a few too many bugs. The biggest being an fc in messaging everytime you recieved a sms or mms leaving you with no notification that you had one. I have added in tronits latest and greatest BlackDome 2.1r1 sbc plus crossbreeder and some build.prop tweaks to round out the package. Testing is going on and if all is good than it will be posted over the weekend for yall to enjoy. I will be posting screen shots here soon as I get the chance.
Check these out!!! Battery life and jb miui
Team No Name Presents
Jelly MIUI JLM First Edition 1.0
No beta release this is a complete ROM.
The pictures will speak for themself
Peace,Love, and
Happiness
That's a fact JACK!!!!!!!
Sent from my V-TECH EVO using xda app-developers app
a run down of Jelly MIUI JLM
So I have been using this ugly stock miui launcher for one reason. I heard from that the jelly bean miui really sucks some juice. These shots were after a 1 1/2 hours of almost constant use. As you can see in the pictures my signal sucks when I am inside, I am using wifi and this phone is active. At the rate I am going the battery will last about 8 hours for an 3500 mA extended battery. Now that might sound steep but under the same conditions other jb roms can be as little as 4 hours. Now for real world life I would say the average stock battery should run 8 or more hours with normal use and decent signal.
Now there are special feature in the MIUI that are not in the normal MIUI that you might want to know about. First off if you remember DND well that has changed to Firewall and for those new to this here is what it does.
You can setup multiple types of filters for calls and text
You have a white list, black list, plus anti-stranger mode (non address book block)
anti-private mode (privite numbers are filtered)
keyword spam filter. All these settings effect call, sms, and mms
Once the filters are set then you can setup a blocking schedule with a start and stop time or all day
You can also manually turn it off and on
There is built in screen capture by a toggle or keystroke combo
You can lock the screen buttons (home, menu, back, search)
There is a guard mode that requires a password to see gallery, sms, mms, call log and some other things
You also have built in 2way call recording with any kernel
You place the call click on the tools option on the dialer and you have multiple options on of which is record
It also comes with network assistant to monitor data usage
You can set a limit and then it will automatically block data usage when that limit is reached along with notifications when you are close to your limit
A built in backup program which saves all your apps/app data, settings, permissions, sms, mms, call logs the works
MIUI's superuser app call permissions managers it allows root access
but also monitors all the apps permissions such as sms, call, phone state, call monitoring, contacts, call logs, positioning (course and fine position), and phone id
You for each thing you can allow, ask, or deny access for each app
Then you have themes which unlike other roms you can mix and match parts such as
lockscreen, wallpapers, icons, status bar, boot animation, sms app, dialer, fonts
With sounds and wallpapers you can even use your own off the sd card or music player.
Oh yeah lets not forget since it is based off an miui.us build there is the miui.us toolbox
Status bar settings
center clock
hide am/pm
single bars (for non fans of having both 1x and 3x signal bars like in the old donut and cupcake days)
Custom carrier label
custom carrier logo (if you dont want a lable how about a picture)
change colors of
clock
carrier lable
signal bars
wifi icon
battery icon
or set all above to one color
also reset back to white
launcher settings (for stock launcher only)
hide status bar
hide icon text
resize widges (custom widget sizes)
There is a cpu tuner with typical features
abd over wifi
battery calibration tool
android id tool
invoke media scaner option
screen dpi
and this thing call fan-nav that i have not figured out yet
oh and this crazy desktop mode thing for the stock launcher you have to see the video of this it is weird
So talk about a feature packed rom. And if your not a fan of that ios style launcher you can just load on your favorite launcher and still get almost every feature of miui.
All this and more coming soon to a server near you!!
Peace,
Love, and
Happiness
Yeah, this is gonna be rally sweet!
I'm curious was there anything done outside of build.prob tweaks and init.d tweaks? Since you can't so anything with framework I'm not trying to diss the rom of anything. Might as well just port the latest miui
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Well evonoob no offense taken. Mostly it is build.prop tweaks but I have also done a few other things. I am not a full fledged developer yet but I dare you to go to miui.us and try to run their 2.12.28 rom. Once you have I will give you a link to mine.
Oh side note on battery life. Ran crap out of it. Take a look at the screen shots of battery life. 7.5 hrs hard use in these shots with almost no signal.
Darn tapatalk not uploading pics. Will upload shortly.
jlmancuso said:
Well evonoob no offense taken. Mostly it is build.prop tweaks but I have also done a few other things. I am not a full fledged developer yet but I dare you to go to miui.us and try to run their 2.12.28 rom. Once you have I will give you a link to mine.
Oh side note on battery life. Ran crap out of it. Take a look at the screen shots of battery life. 7.5 hrs hard use in these shots with almost no signal.
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I stopped using miui us since they're closed source when it comes to certain things. I just port miui android with control panel
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Do you still have an evo? If so just try it out. When I have enough skills I will start building from source but till then it is all about improving what we have. I am just trying to keep the evo useful with what we have.
jlmancuso said:
Do you still have an evo? If so just try it out. When I have enough skills I will start building from source but till then it is all about improving what we have. I am just trying to keep the evo useful with what we have.
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Yea lays on my desk face down with the battery out. Haven't touched it in months
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Well power that bad boy up and try this out when I release it. It will be worth doing a side by side comparison.
Oh and here is the pics of yesterdays usage. You must take into account that the cpu was set on 245/998 with ondemand plus I get next to no signal as you will see in the screen shots. This is also a good 3500 mA extended battery. I would say the average user with a stock battery, normal usage, and fair signal should average 8-10 hours with little to no changes on cpu settings or battery management.
The phone was on for 7hrs 45mins with real use for 6hrs and 21mins. Not to shabby for a jelly bean rom with almost continues use
Sometimes I even amaze myself!
evo4gnoob said:
Yea lays on my desk face down with the battery out. Haven't touched it in months
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Blashpemy!!!
Alight guys I have started on the TNN toolbox. It is in general discussion and scheduled to be implemented with every TNN ROM project. The rules of custom ROM development are getting rewritten.
Thanks to the mods for moving this. Sorry i posted it in the wrong place - oops!
Hey everybody. In a blatant and self serving attempt to try and cultivate interest and support in a phone that I have just purchased, I thought I would post a mini review here with a little bit of info
Seriously though, if, like me, XDA as usually your one stop shop for everything phone related and you're considering buying one of the many offerings available directly from China these days, getting the right info can be hard. Sure, some info is available on other sites, but often online translation tools are necessary and it's hard to get a clear picture of what you can really expect from a prospective purchase.
I've been reading about various Chinese devices for over a year now, quietly waiting until I was sure I could get a reasonable level of performance for my money before buying one, all the while nursing my ageing HTC Sensation through daily use. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 as well, but that has a broken screen so it is purely used as a mini media PC connected to a TV these days. I also have an Nvidia Tegra Note that offers great performance at a very reasonable price.
I am uncertain how much waffle you guys will want to wade through so I'll list some basic specs and then provide a few pros and cons as I see them, plus a few very basic tips that I've stumbled on in the first week, some of which will apply to similar devices that use vey similar ROMs. If you want more info, please ask.
Forum member oxiroxt has had a fairly mixed experience with their G4S, including hardware problems. details are in post 1175 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59463919&postcount=1175
Here are the basic specs:
Jiayu G4S -
16GB ROM 2GB RAM - MediaTek Octacore A7 MT6592 SoC @1.7Ghz with Mali 450 GPU.
Dual sim card standby (one Micro SIM Card)
GSM 900/1800MHz (see screenshot below of MTK Engineer Mode which shows more bands available, including GSM850 - I haven't tested this band though)
WCDMA 900/2100MHz
Android OS: 4.2.2
4.7 inch, IPS multi points corning Gorilla II OGS touch Screen (I have my doubts about the Gorilla Glass as I have a couple of small scratches already)
Camera: Front camera 3.0 Megapixels. Back camera: 13.0 Megapixels with CMOS flashlight, auto focus
Stereo FM Radio
Gravity Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Light Sensor
3000mAh battery
Dimensions: 133×65×10(mm)
What's in the box:
1 x Phone
1 x Battery
1 x AC Charger Adapter
1 x USB Cable
Pros:
Price - Only £137 delivered to UK via DHL - price is falling all the time at the moment too.
Screen - Pleasing colours, better outdoor visibility than I expected.
Call quality - good, with noise cancellation microphone on rear of device (call quality better than HTC Sensation)
Performance - over 27,000 points in Antutu, nice and fluid in use. Not as quick as Tegra Note or Snapdragon 800 of course
Battery life - over five hours of screen on time in a sixteen hour period, with 37% battery remaining. I have hit eight hours of screen time twice.
Build quality - less creaky than my Note 2
Supports USB OTG
Supports USB Mass Storage when connecting to PC
Compact size - at only 65mm wide, one handed use is practical for most people.
GPU performance is not great - only two thirds of the Samsung Galaxy S4, but it's ok for Modern Combat 4. It scores 61FPS on in Epic Citadel on high detail setting (Ultra High setting unavailable).
Pre-rooted - Root can be toggled under Settings/Security (love this feature in a stock ROM)
SD card slot
Dual SIM
Removable battery
Notification Light - three colour, RGB
Cons:
Lack of developer support here on XDA for now
No MHL for TV out
Caller ID mismatch bug
Camera below expectations - certainly worse than tweaked HTC Sensation camera
Possible wifi bug - affects things like wireless streaming if the screen is off
Deodexing ROM to work with files not 'standard' procedure
GPS - connects quickly but accuracy is still behind Qualcomm's efforts these days (much better than the old HTC Touch Pro/Raphael though!!)
Internal SD only approx. 9GB with internal storage just under a further 4GBs (It should be possible to repartition this by altering EBR1 and EBR2, but I haven't tried. iOcean have done this on their latest ROM for the X7S, decreasing phone storage to 1GB and increasing internal SD card to about 13GB - May 2014).
Screen has some backlight bleeding around bottom edges - sensitivity slightly lower than I'm used to but by no means bad.
Most sites claim 64GB Micro SDXC support - this is wrong, exFAT is not supported so you'll need to format the card to Fat32 for it to work.
English US - if you're in the UK and you change the language to English, you'll be stuck with US English language and location. To get around this you will need to toggle root on in settings/security, download Morelocales2 from the Play Store and then use it to change over to EN GB. I've edited the build.prop too.
Xposed - doesn't work at the moment due to the way the ROM is compiled (if I've understood correctly). Head over to that thread for basic details of a workaround to deodex the ROM, or download one of the customs ROMs based on stock that has been deodexed.
No 4G
Buttons are not backlit
There were issues with Facebook and Whats App but apparently all is now OK - sorry I don't use these so I haven't tried. Earlier versions of Facebook apparently work.
Recovery, Drivers for PC, Flash tools etc:
Jiayu.es app - Recoveries and tools are available from several sources, but at the time of writing the easiest way now is to download the Jiayu.es app. This now has downloads for the stock recovery, CWM, Stock ROM (European version with ASOP keyboard as opposed to Baidu which comes on the phone if you buy directly from China) as well as drivers for PC and the necessary tools to flash the ROM from a PC.
Mobile Uncle Tools - I used this to flash CWM recovery and tweak a few things before I discovered the Jiayu.es app. You can use this to back up your IMEI (NVRAM) which I highly recommend as the loss of IMEI is something I have read about frequently when people are flashing similar devices.
ROMs:
Before flashing any ROMs, I recommend using MTK Droid Tools to create a backup of your device on your PC. This includes backing up your IMEI number and every other partition. If you hit trouble you can restore your device to factory fresh. Head over to gizbeat for a tutorial and video.
Unfortunately at the moment I don't have time to try lots of ROMs (boooo!) which is frustrating, but it's also a mark of the fact that I'm just able to use the Jiayu stock ROM without too many compromises.
As the device gains in popularity there are now more an more ROMs appearing in various forums around the web. At the moment, there are a few basic choices to make. First, there are the stock ROMs 'officially' released by Jiayu. The stock ROMS are installed using SPFlashtools. Secondly there are deodexed versions of the stock ROMs that will allow you to run the Xposed framework and mods like the excellent Gravitybox. Thirdly there are ports of other ROMs, such as MIUI of ColorOS. The last two types will be installed through recovery, for which you need a custom recovery such as CWM.
One of the stock ROMs as well as both a stock recovery and CWM Recovery are available through the Jiayu.es app.
For me, the main source of ROMS remains NeedROM. There are now several recoveries, the stock ROM as well as ports of MIUI, ColorOS, YunOS and so on. This is the place I usually check first as the site is well organised and in English which makes it easier for me: http://www.needrom.com/phone-roms/jiayu/g4s/
There are now a number of ROMs available here, including at least a couple of MIUI here:
http://www.592zn.com/ (use Google Translate to browse the site if needed and to find the threads relating to the Jiayu G4S
Jiayu forum:
http://bbs.ejiayu.com/forum-184-1.html
Some of mite_jan's posts with recommendations/ROM related links (press thanks if you appreciate his links):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52989103&postcount=50
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53133246&postcount=90
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53270549&postcount=134
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53284249&postcount=141
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53361043&postcount=180
Two Hidden Tweaks in ROM:
1. A limited set of developer options was already available in settings when I first booted my G4S (Stay Awake, USB Debugging, Allow Mock Locations), but if you want access to the whole lot you can repeatedly tap the Android Version section under Settings/About Phone. This will take you straight to the developer options page. By default all animations are turned off so I used this to turn them on. You will still only have access to limited developer options once you exit this page, so you will have to get tapping the next time want to go back into it.
2. An 'Advanced Settings' option in Settings menu will appear if you repeatedly tap the Build Number under Settings/About Phone. This new menu allows you to tweak the transparency separately for lockscreen, main interface and the status bar itself. There's also and option to toggle the volume key wake feature, but this doesn't do anything for me - the volume buttons always wake the phone.
General Blurb:
So far, I feel like my money has been well spent, though I'm only a week into ownership. The screen in particular has exceeded my expectations with pleasant colours and reasonable outdoor visibility (better than HTC Sensation, but not great). Whites look 'white' as opposed to having the slightly yellowy hue that has affected all the devices with AMOLED screens that I've used, not to mention the poor offering on my Tegra Note. There's more backlight bleeding around the edges than I would like though which is a pity. This is certainly not the case with all Chinese devices - the iOcean X7S, for example, has a much better screen from that point of view. Call quality has exceeded my expectations and, as with other similar devices, the firmware offers various ways to manage the dual SIM functionality. As well as binding specific contacts to a particular SIM, you can also independently choose which SIM is used for SMS, voice calls, data and video calls. You can also be prompted to choose which SIM to use on the fly each time if you prefer. Only one SIM can use WCDMA at a time, but you can choose which SIM that is without physically swapping the SIMs or rebooting the phone. I thought battery life might be poor with two SIMs in, especially as I live in a marginal area for one of the networks I use, but so far battery life has been pretty good in general use. I was surprised to get over five hours screen time and still have well over 30% battery left. Intensive games and videos can drain the battery more quickly though of course.
Build quality also appears to be pretty good for a budget device. It's certainly less creaky than my partner's Note, my Note 2 and any other number of Samsung devices that I've used. The petite dimensions are also great. The thickness of 10mm simply isn't an issue for me, especially given the generous battery under the hood. For the first week there were no noises from it at all, though there is a tiny creak from one corner of the battery cover now after many many cycles of removing and replacing it as a result of messing about with it.
The main issues I've faced so far are the fairly weak 13MP camera that introduces a lot of noise and offers poor detail in spite of a wide range of tweaking options within the app itself and a caller ID mismatch bug revolving around MIN_MATCH criteria . The latter means that if you store a contact's telephone number in domestic format (e.g. 07707 123456) then send them a text message, any reply you receive from them will be prefixed with the international country code and will be put into a separate thread. If you store their number with the international dialling code, when they call from the same country, the phone will not recognise their number. So far the easiest bodge is to store both formats for each contact, then remember to send SMS to the number will international prefix. Both these issues are deeply annoying from my perspective. See here for an explanation of the caller ID problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268120
There does also appears to be a bug with wifi - if you stream films wirelessly to your TV the screen will have to remain on, which is the first time I've had this issue.
Performance is genuinely fluid if not up to Tegra 4 or Snapdragon 800 standards, but it's certainly better than the Galaxy Note 2. The one area that confuses me is GPU performance. I very briefly had an iOcean X7S which has the same SoC but a 1080p screen rather than the Jiayu's 720p. To my surprise the Jiayu actually scores lower in Antutu in this area. My guess is that either this is a SoC from a different BIN compared to those going into the 1080p devices, or something else is going on to artificially limit performance. On balance, for the money, performance is fantastic and is better than other phones being offered in the UK from retail outlets at over twice the price. Personally I miss some of the features of HTCs Sense based ROMs, but not enough at the moment to shell out over £500. This is now my daily driver and unless it dies prematurely I think I'll have it for up to a year (dependent upon whether or not I get fed up with the camera). Within a year my gut feeling is that similar devices with 4G will be ready for main stream adoption In much the same way that sections of the motorcycling community enjoy having a flagship bike and a small capacity run around to hack, tune and mess around with, I kind of hope more XDA users will start to buy devices like the Jiayu G4S and mess around with them. I know MediaTek have been useless at releasing the source code which is a massive stumbling block, but we can still have a bit of fun with them, eh?
*UPDATES*
Battery life - on one occasion I reached just under 35 hours of up time, with 7 hours 52 minutes of screen time, with 9% battery left. Usage was a mix of a few phones calls, some text messages, two email accounts, web browsing, about thirty minutes of Shadowgun, around an hour of streaming music via A2DP and about two hours of listening to music on headphones.
Multi tasking is good when web browsing and listening to music (as it should be). Playing a game like Shadowgun whilst using a Moga Pro controller AND streaming music via Bluetooth is also absolutely fine.
Bluetooth - Bluetooth range is better than on my Tegra Note, HTC Sensation and Note 2 when streaming music. The actual quality of audio via Bluetooth is not the best. It's noticeably worse than the Note 2.
Audio quality out of the headphone jack is also not great. The built in equaliser helps a lot, but it really doesn't sound much better than Bluetooth to me.
Camera - somehow, I have dust inside the outer lens already (the outer lense being part of the sealed camera unit). UPDATE I hovered the dust out!!
As for the images themselves, I've found setting sharpness to maximum and turning off face beautification helps improve images a bit. User 'coffee' over at MTKForums.com reckons the Camera FV-5 app is great at getting the best out of the sensor in the G4S, especially if you save the images in lossless PNG format. I haven't tried it yet.
GPS - after using GPS Test to get the first lock (go outside, set the option within the app to keep the screen on and update AGPS data), subsequent locks have usually been very quick. Unfortunately accuracy in apps like Co-pilot has been very hit and miss for me. On a few occasions my location is shown on an adjacent road that is over 50 metres away. In one instance restarting the device solved the problem. I've recorded a few tracks whilst cycling using Endomondo Pro and these have been fine apart from one occasion where I stopped and went in a shop and it added a mile onto my journey!
Notification LED - this is a three colour red, green, blue unit, so you should be able to set the colour for different notifications using a third party app. I haven't tried this yet.
Charging bug - the LED will glow green when the battery is only 90% charged. The iOcean X7S has exactly the same issue.
Text/Font not being visible - if you can't see text in certain apps (Such as Titanium Backup), open the Themes app and switch to the 'System' theme.
Wired Headset - I don't have the official Jiayu Headset but I've tried Samsung and HTC's more recent offerings. The play/pause button on the Samsung headset works, but the volume buttons skip tracks instead. Play/pause works on the HTC headset, as do next/previous track, but fast forward and rewind do not. I haven't tried making calls with them yet. As there are a couple of different standards for four pole 3.5mm headsets that each have the 'ground' and 'microphone' in different positions, you will need to have the right type for the correct functionality.
USB OTG - In addition to flash drives and a small bus powered 80GB hard drive, I've also tried a 1TB WD Passport Ultra formatted to fat32 (also bus powered). Unfortunately the G4S was unable to power it. Some other devices such as a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 are able to. If you connect the drive to a powered USB hub, then connect the hub to the phone it works fine.
ROM UPDATE 20140422-121442 - For me, the caller ID bug remains To be more exact, if I text someone using the national telephone format (e.g. 07707 123456), when they respond the message is sent with the international dialling prefix (+44 for example) and their SMS will be placed in a different thread.
This ROM uses the same format that original phones imported from China have, i.e. it comes with Baidu IME input as opposed to the one available from Jiayu.es which has the ASOP keyboard. There are a few other differences between the Chinese and Worldwide releases. The kernel and radio etc are the same as the last two releases. I used the ext4_unpacker tool available here on XDA to have a look inside the system.img of the new release and the old release, and I think many of the libs are the same too.
One small bug that seems to be fixed is that call history times in the dialler now displays properly, rather than being obscured by other parts of the dialer.
The volume key wake toggle option in the advanced setting area still does not work (you can't prevent the volume keys from waking the phone).
With most of the themes, the problem where text in some apps is invisible remains the same. Use the 'System' theme to get around this.
USB OTG.....continued - Sadly the CSL DVB-T mini Android TV Stick doesn't work with the G4S out of the box.
FIX - First, turn on superuser/root access in settings/security. Then download Chainfire's USB Host Diagnostics from the Play Store. Run the app, then hit Start Diagnostics. You will be prompted to plug in a USB OTG device. I used a OTG adapter and a memory stick. After the diagnostics have run and you have been asked whether or not you want to upload the results, you will be prompted that USB OTG is not working and that it might benefit from attempting a fix. Let it run the fix and then reboot the phone. The CSL TV dongle will now work
I guess this will probably also help with other USB OTG problems you might encounter.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/CSL-Receiver-Smartphones-Interface-Smartphone/dp/B00DZR3OKS#productDetails
Sample photos courtesy of user ykassana http://mtkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=842
Jiayu G4S Original Rom Caller ID Mismatch
Caller ID Mismatch is a common problem in chinese roms, for Jiayu G4S follow these steps:
1. Using root explorer to edit the build.prob file inside /System
add this line at the end of the file
ro.init.phonenumber_match= 7
2. Go to settings >> App >> All >> Contacts Storage >> Clear Data >> Reboot
Good Luck
nightcap79 said:
Caller ID Mismatch is a common problem in chinese roms, for Jiayu G4S follow these steps:
1. Using root explorer to edit the build.prob file inside /System
add this line at the end of the file
ro.init.phonenumber_match= 7
2. Go to settings >> App >> All >> Contacts Storage >> Clear Data >> Reboot
Good Luck
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Thanks very much for posting. I stumbled on that suggestion a few days ago, but unfortunately it doesn't work on this ROM : (
How come the buttons are not back lighted? I've asked two sellers and they claimed that buttons are back lighted. Are you sure? Maybe there is an option to enable?
Can you make a memory test with AndroBench application?
Thank you for a little review anyway. Keep us up to date with your experience and more observations with this phone.
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Hi,
I've bought this phone too and I'm facing some issues, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52629345
Specifically, incompatibility with the following applications:
Facebook (crash after less than a second of usage)
Firefox (crash after few seconds of usage)
Babbel (crash only after you've logged in, and once you've done it crash as soon as it starts)
google agenda
Have you tried these apps?
Any hint on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52629345 ???
Doman said:
How come the buttons are not back lighted? I've asked two sellers and they claimed that buttons are back lighted. Are you sure? Maybe there is an option to enable?
Can you make a memory test with AndroBench application?
Thank you for a little review anyway. Keep us up to date with your experience and more observations with this phone.
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The buttons definitely aren't backlit on my one. I've no idea if they will be in on examples made later on. I read somewhere that on last year's G4 basic and Advanced models someone found a way to get them to work. I honestly don't know if the hardware is even capable on this year's models.
I'll look into Androbench.
drpete_doyoubnb said:
Hi,
I've bought this phone too and I'm facing some issues, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52629345
Specifically, incompatibility with the following applications:
Facebook (crash after less than a second of usage)
Firefox (crash after few seconds of usage)
Babbel (crash only after you've logged in, and once you've done it crash as soon as it starts)
google agenda
Have you tried these apps?
Any hint on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52629345 ???
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Sorry, no, I haven't used any of these apps so I can't give any feedback.
My partial review (in spanish), another bug, and a thankful message
Ouzo said:
Hey everybody. In a blatant and self serving attempt to try and cultivate interest and support in a phone that I have just purchased, I thought I would post a mini review here with a little bit of info
Seriously though, if, like me, XDA is usually your one stop shop for everything phone related and you're considering buying one of the many offerings available directly from China these days, getting the right info can be hard. Sure, some info is available on other sites, but often online translation tools are necessary and it's hard to get a clear picture of what you can really expect from a prospective purchase.
I've been reading about various Chinese devices for over a year now, quietly waiting until I was sure I could get a reasonable level of performance for my money before buying one, all the while nursing my ageing HTC Sensation through daily use. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 as well, but that has a broken screen so it is purely used as a mini media PC connected to a TV these days. I also have an Nvidia Tegra Note that offers great performance at a very reasonable price.
I am uncertain how much waffle you guys will want to wade through so I'll list some basic specs and then provide a few pros and cons as I see them, plus a few very basic tips that I've stumbled on in the first week, some of which will apply to similar devices that use vey similar ROMs. If you want more info, please ask.
Here are the basic specs:
Jiayu G4S -
16GB ROM 2GB RAM - MediaTek Octacore A7 MT6592 SoC @1.7Ghz with Mali 450 GPU.
Dual sim card standby (one Micro SIM Card)
GSM 900/1800MHz
WCDMA 900/2100MHz
Android OS: 4.2.2
4.7 inch, IPS multi points corning Gorilla II OGS touch Screen (I have my doubts about the Gorilla Glass as I have a couple of small scratches already)
Camera: Front camera 3.0 Megapixels. Back camera: 13.0 Megapixels with CMOS flashlight, auto focus
Stereo FM Radio
Gravity Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Light Sensor
3000mAh battery
Dimensions: 133×65×10(mm)
What's in the box:
1 x Phone
1 x Battery
1 x AC Charger Adapter
1 x USB Cable
Pros:
Price - Only £137 delivered to UK via DHL - price is falling all the time at the moment too.
Screen - Pleasing colours, better outdoor visibility than I expected.
Call quality - good, with noise cancellation microphone on rear of device (call quality better than HTC Sensation)
Performance - over 27,000 points in Antutu, nice and fluid in use. Not as quick as Tegra Note or Snapdragon 800 of course
Battery life - over five hours of screen on time in a sixteen hour period, with 37% battery remaining
Build quality - less creaky than my Note 2
Supports USB OTG
Supports USB Mass Storage when connecting to PC
Compact size - at only 65mm wide, one handed use is practical for most people.
GPU performance is not great - only two thirds of the Samsung Galaxy S4, but it's ok for Modern Combat 4
Pre-rooted - Root can be toggled under Settings/Security (love this feature in a stock ROM)
SD card slot
Dual SIM
Removable battery
Cons:
Lack of developer support here on XDA
No MHL for TV out
Caller ID mismatch bug
Camera below expectations - certainly worse than tweaked HTC Sensation camera
Possible wifi bug - affects things like wireless streaming if the screen is off
Deodexing ROM to work with files not 'standard' procedure
GPS - connects quickly but accuracy is still behind Qualcomm's efforts these days (much better than the old HTC Touch Pro/Raphael though!!)
Internal SD only approx. 9GB with phone storage just under a further 4GBs
Screen has some backlight bleeding around bottom edges - sensitivity slightly lower than I'm used to.
Most sites claim 64GB Micro SDXC support - this is wrong, exFAT is not supported so you'll need to format the card to Fat32 for it to work.
English US - if you're in the UK and you change the language to English, you'll be stuck with US English language and location so you'll need to toggle root on in settings and download Morelocales2 from the Play Store and change over to EN GB. I've edited the build.prop too.
Xposed - doesn't work at the moment due to the way the ROM is compiled (if I've understood correctly). Head over to that thread for basic details of a workaround to deodex the ROM.
No 4G
Buttons are not backlit
Recovery, Drivers for PC, Flash tools etc:
Jiayu.es app - Recoveries and tools are available from several sources, but at the time of writing the easiest way now is to download the Jiayu.es app. This now has downloads for the stock recovery, CWM, Stock ROM (European version with ASOP keyboard as opposed to Baidu which comes on the phone if you buy directly from China) as well as drivers for PC and the necessary tools to flash the ROM from a PC.
Mobile Uncle Tools - I used this to flash CWM recovery and tweak a few things before I discovered the Jiayu.es app. You can use this to back up your IMEI (NVRAM) which I highly recommend as the loss of IMEI is something I have read about frequently when people are flashing similar devices.
ROMs:
In addition to the stock ROM in the Jiayu.es app, you can also find a recovery and ROM on http://www.needrom.com/
There are also various ROMs including at least a couple of MIUI here: http://www.592zn.com/
Two Hidden Tweaks in ROM:
1. A limited set of developer options was already available in settings when I first booted my G4S (Stay Awake, USB Debugging, Allow Mock Locations), but if you want access to the whole lot you can repeatedly tap the Android Version section under Settings/About Phone. This will take you straight to the developer options page. By default all animations are turned off so I used this to turn them on. You will still only have access to limited developer options once you exit this page, so you will have to get tapping the next time want to go back into it.
2. An 'Advanced Settings' option in Settings menu will appear if you repeatedly tap the Build Number under Settings/About Phone. This new menu allows you to tweak the transparency separately for lockscreen, main interface and the status bar itself. There's also and option to toggle the volume key wake feature, but this doesn't do anything for me - the volume buttons always wake the phone.
General Blurb:
So far, I feel like my money has been well spent, though I'm only a week into ownership. The screen in particular has exceeded my expectations with pleasant colours and reasonable outdoor visibility (better than HTC Sensation, but not great). Whites look 'white' as opposed to having the slightly yellowy hue that has affected all the devices with AMOLED screens that I've used, not to mention the poor offering on my Tegra Note. There's more backlight bleeding around the edges than I would like though which is a pity. This is certainly not the case with all Chinese devices - the iOcean X7S, for example, has a much better screen from that point of view. Call quality has exceeded my expectations and, as with other similar devices, the firmware offers various ways to manage the dual SIM functionality. As well as binding specific contacts to a particular SIM, you can also independently choose which SIM is used for SMS, voice calls, data and video calls. You can also be prompted to choose which SIM to use on the fly each time if you prefer. Only one SIM can use WCDMA at a time, but you can choose which SIM that is without physically swapping the SIMs or rebooting the phone. I thought battery life might be poor with two SIMs in, especially as I live in a marginal area for one of the networks I use, but so far battery life has been pretty good in general use. I was surprised to get over five hours screen time and still have well over 30% battery left. Intensive games and videos can drain the battery more quickly though of course.
Build quality also appears to be pretty good for a budget device. It's certainly less creaky than my partner's Note, my Note 2 and any other number of Samsung devices that I've used. The petite dimensions are also great. The thickness of 10mm simply isn't an issue for me, especially given the generous battery under the hood. For the first week there were no noises from it at all, though there is a tiny creak from one corner of the battery cover now after many many cycles of removing and replacing it as a result of messing about with it.
The main issues I've faced so far are the fairly weak 13MP camera that introduces a lot of noise and offers poor detail in spite of a wide range of tweaking options within the app itself and a caller ID mismatch bug revolving around MIN_MATCH criteria . The latter means that if you store a contact's telephone number in domestic format (e.g. 07707 123456) then send them a text message, any reply you receive from them will be prefixed with the international country code and will be put into a separate thread. If you store their number with the international dialling code, when they call from the same country, the phone will not recognise their number. So far the easiest bodge is to store both formats for each contact, then remember to send SMS to the number will international prefix. Both these issues are deeply annoying from my perspective. See here for an explanation of the caller ID problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268120
There does also appears to be a bug with wifi - if you stream films wirelessly to your TV the screen will have to remain on, which is the first time I've had this issue.
Performance is genuinely fluid if not up to Tegra 4 or Snapdragon 800 standards, but it's certainly better than the Galaxy Note 2. The one area that confuses me is GPU performance. I very briefly had an iOcean X7S which has the same SoC but a 1080p screen rather than the Jiayu's 720p. To my surprise the Jiayu actually scores lower in Antutu in this area. My guess is that either this is a SoC from a different BIN compared to those going into the 1080p devices, or something else is going on to artificially limit performance. On balance, for the money, performance is fantastic and is better than other phones being offered in the UK from retail outlets at over twice the price. Personally I miss some of the features of HTCs Sense based ROMs, but not enough at the moment to shell out over £500. This is now my daily driver and unless it dies prematurely I think I'll have it for up to a year (dependent upon whether or not I get fed up with the camera). Within a year my gut feeling is that similar devices with 4G will be ready for main stream adoption In much the same way that sections of the motorcycling community enjoy having a flagship bike and a small capacity run around to hack, tune and mess around with, I kind of hope more XDA users will start to buy devices like the Jiayu G4S and mess around with them. I know MediaTek have been useless at releasing the source code which is a massive stumbling block, but we can still have a bit of fun with them, eh?
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Hi Everyone, as this is my first post in this forum, I would like to say thanks to everyone involved for your efforts and good job, focused on helping the Internet Android community.
Second: I would like to thank Ouzo for pointing pros and problems actually ocurring to this model, maybe this helps on finding solution.
Third, i can say than spanish customers are finding problems with hands free during calls: The person at the other side of the line hears his own echo. Maybe it's easy to tune microphones, but still no solution here.
Also have big problems with gps acuracy and position "jumps" while using google navigation in big cities with narrow streets.
Last, i would like to share my review of this model, it's in spanish but you can easily translate it
http://bitsandriffs.blogspot.com.es
Regards.
salimeldjinn said:
Hi Everyone, as this is my first post in this forum, I would like to say thanks to everyone involved for your efforts and good job, focused on helping the Internet Android community.
Second: I would like to thank Ouzo for pointing pros and problems actually ocurring to this model, maybe this helps on finding solution.
Third, i can say than spanish customers are finding problems with hands free during calls: The person at the other side of the line hears his own echo. Maybe it's easy to tune microphones, but still no solution here.
Also have big problems with gps acuracy and position "jumps" while using google navigation in big cities with narrow streets.
Last, i would like to share my review of this model, it's in spanish but you can easily translate it
http://bitsandriffs.blogspot.com.es
Regards.
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Thanks very much indeed. I'm just updating the first post. GPS accuracy is one of my issues too. It locks quickly but it often gets confused about what road you are on (I use co-pilot), even in fairly open spaces like motorway junctions. This is exactly like Qualcomm devices a few years ago. Have you tried any of the tweaked files available in the Jiayu ES app? I haven't yet, but I will.
I haven't tried hands free calling at all yet, only stereo Bluetooth. Have you tried tweaking any of the values available in the MTK Engineer mode/app? If you are not familiar with it there are various descriptions of what some of the parameters do around here somewhere.
Great review - it's interesting that we're both finding the same issues.
For the camera, I found setting sharpness to Max and turning off the beautification feature helps a little.
Doman said:
How come the buttons are not back lighted? I've asked two sellers and they claimed that buttons are back lighted. Are you sure? Maybe there is an option to enable?
Can you make a memory test with AndroBench application?
Thank you for a little review anyway. Keep us up to date with your experience and more observations with this phone.
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AndroBench results:
Internal SD card:
Sequential Read - 57.35 mb/s
Sequential Write - 16.83 mb/s
Random Read - 11.97 mb/s
SQLite Insert - 62.03 TPS
SQLite Update - 76.33 TPS
SQLite Delete - 79.68 TPS
Browser - 250 msec
Market - 223.25 msec
Camera - 255 msec
Camcorder - 566.75 msec
Data partition (phone storage) ext4:
Sequential Read - 57.66 mb/s
Sequential Write - 21.33
Random Read - 13.17
Random Write - 0.77
SqLite Insert - 68.04 TPS
SQLite Update - 77.76 TPS
SQLite Delete - 78.61 TPS
Browser - 79 msec
Market - 256 msec
Camera - 135.5 msec
Camcorder - 310.5 msec
From a more real world point of view, when I copy large amounts of data from my MicroSD card to internal memory, it writes large files at about 25 mb per second, and large quantities of smaller files at about 12 mb per second. Not exactly fast.
Software and loudspeaker call issues
Ouzo said:
Sorry, no, I haven't used any of these apps so I can't give any feedback.
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Yep, I imagine.
I've downloaded and re-installed the ROM provided by Jiayu.es, but the problems persists.
About Facebook: has anyone (or you, Andrés), tried to install it? Does it works smoothly to you or to anybody?
The suspect is simply that some libraries / platform are missing, it could be easily fixed just knowing which ones they are. Please, give a try to install facebook and let me know if it works fine for you, thanks!
Beside that, I can confirm that in Italy too (phone shipped from China) having a call in loudspeaker is giving the problem of echoing on the caller. As well, on this point looking for a solution.
Any hints on any missing libraries (for facebook, google agenda, firefox and other apps not working) and loudspeaker issue are welcome!:fingers-crossed:
Caller ID is fixed in new firmware (available on needrom).
avalanchej said:
Caller ID is fixed in new firmware (available on needrom).
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Awesome, thanks for the heads up. Hopefully I'll get a chance to try it in the next few days
Updated the first post with some more info/observations
My bad, there is still a problem with Caller ID in SMS app. But when someone calls it's ok.
avalanchej said:
My bad, there is still a problem with Caller ID in SMS app. But when someone calls it's ok.
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No worries, for a minute I thought the ROM had been compiled differently and the .jar.jex files had gone , then I realised everything is the same. Poop. No Xposed framework for us yet then.
Hi all. Could you please check if your rearspeaker makes noise when you are playing games with low volume or even without sound enabled. The noise is starting and stopping with apps/games that should make sound (also with video players, if you make video sound to silent, speaker still make little noise at my end)
Thanks for checking
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Hi all. Could you please check if your rearspeaker makes noise when you are playing games with low volume or even without sound enabled. The noise is starting and stopping with apps/games that should make sound (also with video players, if you make video sound to silent, speaker still make little noise at my end)
Thanks for checking
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Mine makes a slight hiss before and after a sound. For example, if I have a notification sound that is quiet, the rear speaker hisses for a second or so before playing the notification. If this is what you mean, then yes, I have the same thing. i can't check if this happens when the phone is on silent because I'm in a noisy environment, but I think it does what you describe.
Notifications also sound from the rear speaker when headphones are plugged in which really annoys me too (Samsung devices do this too).
Thanks for the confirmation ouzo. Are you running the stock rom or any other (miui for example). Would like to know if this is software related or if the soundchip is just buggy
Cheers
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but-888- said:
Thanks for the confirmation ouzo. Are you running the stock rom or any other (miui for example). Would like to know if this is software related or if the soundchip is just buggy
Cheers
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I'm on the latest stock ROM available from Needrom. I think the same thing happened on the first two stock ROMs. Bear in mind that the kernel has been the same on all three versions, and possibly the various libs too. There are quite a few little bugs throughout the ROM, which is a shame. The biggest issue for me remains the performance of the camera. I'm still enjoying it though : )
The long awaited Lollipop update for Samsung Note 4 is here. For some of us. Maybe it could have waited a bit longer; especially the Developer Edition group who suffers some minor setbacks at the moment... But developers are hard at work trying to snuff out a bug dealing with the brightness control, affected by the reflash of the aboot.mbn (the file we use to put the Note 4 in Developer mode - a.k.a. unlocked), as well as fighting the new Lollipop architecture and compatibility of some applications, including but not limited to xposed framework / modules, and some other not-ready-for-Lollipop-prime-time applications (requiring root, and some not...)
But, while there are a few approaches to getting LP on those devices and keeping the developer option - I wish to report at least my take on Lollipop. I like it. I like it very much. My initial "road test" seems to be quite positive...
I will list the no-so-good items I found so far, which are just a few;
1. As stated above, yes I suffer the lack of brightness control too, where the device stays @ 100% brightness all the time. the other part of that is, if you try and adjust the lighting profile like dynamic, cinema, and or photo etc, it also does not work - I think from the same issue.
2. I also want to report that even with the battery cover off, during all the flashing, my unit got quite hot and reported overheating... but, since the flashing completed, the unit get's a tad warmer (that's my perception) now and then, but in either case, the battery life seems unaffected by it - which is good....
3. Lastly the app installations go a bit slower than KK in my opinion, sometimes a lot slower. But, once installed, and running, all is ok...
So, the "road test" - this is based on a developer version, with the OTA of LP, which hit our devices, just like non-developers - same day.
The noticeable benefits:
1. The phone boots quicker. definitely an improvement over KK
2. Major change in Hardware GPS performance and accuracy. The acquisition is similar to KK, but the accuracy is far better than KK even JB, for sure - Using GPS Test Plus, I get consistent 10ft accurace, whereas before, in KK / JB, it'd get to 10ft every so often, yet seemed to bounce between 13ft and 16ft most of the time... I'm very happy bout this.
3. Bluetooth sync / paring - It was like I had a whole new phone, faster sync, it actually found my speakerphone without me having to make the unit visible, nice...
4. Using TWRP, backups to the internal sdcard0 were 94 seconds to completion, and that was with TWRP, SuperSU, and Root Explorer installed. The best time, after I de-bloated the phone, removing a bucketload of Samsung apps, Some Google, Some Verizon, Virtually all Location Service Software (I'll explain briefly later) and a great handful of applications - brought the TWRP backup time to just 72 seconds - just amazing!!!!
5. DE bloating went smooth, no app stoppages upon reboot, pretty dang clean... Aside from SuperSU and Root Explorer, I was down to about 18 visible apps - "The Naked Lollipop!!"
6. I think I am seeing an improvement on fast charge, if anything, it's not getting worse, which is great...
7. I like the whole UI / UX of Lollipop better than the other OS's, more ergonomic, more notifying, flatter look n feel - but, maybe it's me, cause it's new...
8. Native Call Recording works great (have to be rooted) - this is an app flashable if rooted, not associated w / xposed. General phone use seems to be cool - still getting used to the end button in the middle of the screen...
I have not tried a full audio / video / media test yet, on fidelity etc... that will be a bit later on...
What is everyone's experience with LP, rooted / non-rooted etc.?
The talk in the other Lollipop Threads is that battery life is a lot worse. Do you think that might be a Retail Edition problem that doesn't affect DE's? Maybe caused by the OTA flash? When I tried it I found an unacceptable problem that I may have missed the fix for. Possibly it'll be OK the next time I try. The real problem was I was unable to restore my KK backup in TWRP 2.8.5.0. I ended up having to start fresh. Another real problem is the inability to turn down the screen brightness on all of the white backgrounds gives me a headache. I'm probably going to wait for the fix for that.
Starting from scratch isn't a real problem because I usually think of improvements for my new installation. I am concerned about not being able to restore though. I'm going to replace my last back-up but I was wondering if TWRP 2.8.6.0.might be better. Are there any thoughts on that matter?