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Anyone been able to connect to a 5GHz WiFi network witht the Galaxy Nexus?
Forcing the "Wi-Fi Frequency band" setting to 5GHz only just results in an empty list of available networks, despite the phone being sat underneath a very decent enterprise-grade dual band AP (Ruckus 7363, Atheros chipsets). Have tried a bunch of different channels on the Ruckus AP (in both the 36-64 and 100-136 range) and switched between 20 and 40Mhz channel widths to no avail.
As far as I can tell, the Galaxy Nexus uses a BCM4330 chipset should have a 5GHz amp, would be ashame if there's no 5GHz antenna for it?!
Chris.
My bad. Think I was changing channels on the wrong AP when testing out 5GHz earlier.
The Galaxy Nexus does indeed support 5GHz, albeit on a limited number of channels (connecting at a 65MBps maximum datarate):
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Just to finish up on this: After a bit of testing with an iPhone 4s (which also uses the same BCM4330 chipset and has no problems with any 5GHz channels), I'd guess that the GN's apparent limited support for 5GHz wifi is down to a software issue.
Basically the channels it supports are the ones that don't require DFS (Dynamic Frequency Selection) to be enabled on the AP, for use in the US (Europe apparently doesn't care about DFS).
I'd guess that the driver as is doesn't support interop with DFS (which I'd assume should be an AP-side function anyway) and rather than trust me that I'm in Europe, it just prevents those channels from being used.
Ashame, as it means 5GHz support is basically broken when it comes to using it with 'enterprise-grade' kit (not sure if consumer APs generally support DFS or not).
it should work with 5 Ghz WiFi
even the SGS2 works with 5 Ghz WiFi
at home i can connect using my 5 Ghz WiFi
chriscole said:
Just to finish up on this: After a bit of testing with an iPhone 4s (which also uses the same BCM4330 chipset and has no problems with any 5GHz channels), I'd guess that the GN's apparent limited support for 5GHz wifi is down to a software issue.
Basically the channels it supports are the ones that don't require DFS (Dynamic Frequency Selection) to be enabled on the AP, for use in the US (Europe apparently doesn't care about DFS).
I'd guess that the driver as is doesn't support interop with DFS (which I'd assume should be an AP-side function anyway) and rather than trust me that I'm in Europe, it just prevents those channels from being used.
Ashame, as it means 5GHz support is basically broken when it comes to using it with 'enterprise-grade' kit (not sure if consumer APs generally support DFS or not).
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Hmmm...there's something odd going on with my GN with 5Ghz Wifi - I have a couple of Netgear routers 802.11N running on channels 36 and 44 and the GN connected no problems for the first few hours, but now it just won't grab an IP address. I've resorted to the G channels on 2.4Ghz, but have no idea why the handset suddenly won't pick up an IP on the 5Ghz even though I'm getting 'excellent' reception.
Any ideas? I've rebooted the phone and the network. The Mac and the iPad are the other devices on the 5Ghz and they're fine...
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I'd guess that the driver as is doesn't support interop with DFS (which I'd assume should be an AP-side function anyway) and rather than trust me that I'm in Europe, it just prevents those channels from being used.
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Have you check if it's not just your Regulatory domain settings that are wrong? I don't have a GN yet so I can't check but used to be under Advanced in Wifi settings.
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Hmmm...there's something odd going on with my GN with 5Ghz Wifi - I have a couple of Netgear routers 802.11N running on channels 36 and 44 and the GN connected no problems for the first few hours, but now it just won't grab an IP address. I've resorted to the G channels on 2.4Ghz, but have no idea why the handset suddenly won't pick up an IP on the 5Ghz even though I'm getting 'excellent' reception.
Any ideas? I've rebooted the phone and the network. The Mac and the iPad are the other devices on the 5Ghz and they're fine...
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Works fine on my Netgear WNDR3700, weird.
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Works fine on my Netgear WNDR3700, weird.
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It's very strange (I've got older DNDR3300 and WNDR3300 in the house) - it can see the SSIDs for 5Ghz, but just won't allocate me an IP address...I've looked at the wifi diagnostics through the *#*#info#*#* and there's nothing I can really do. I'm taking the thing back to '3' tomorrow.
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It's very strange (I've got older DNDR3300 and WNDR3300 in the house) - it can see the SSIDs for 5Ghz, but just won't allocate me an IP address...I've looked at the wifi diagnostics through the *#*#info#*#* and there's nothing I can really do. I'm taking the thing back to '3' tomorrow.
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have you tried allocating it an ip address manually in the router, basically forcing dhcp to allocate a specific one? Did you try connecting with no encryption as well (def worth a go)
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have you tried allocating it an ip address manually in the router, basically forcing dhcp to allocate a specific one? Did you try connecting with no encryption as well (def worth a go)
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Yup - did all that. turned off encryption, added guest networks, turned off DHCP and entered manual IPs. The GN picks up the G and obtains the IP address no problem, but it just won't with the N...
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Yup - did all that. turned off encryption, added guest networks, turned off DHCP and entered manual IPs. The GN picks up the G and obtains the IP address no problem, but it just won't with the N...
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Bummer. assumed you would have had done all that..
Just to add to the body of knowledge surrounding this. I have an Airport Extreme (Gen2), which had a recent firmware upgrade. This set it's automatic channel selection to use channel 100 - which my GN could not see. It took a downgrade from 7.6 to 7.4.2 for it to use channel 36 - and now I'm happy and connected. (I have other b/g APs in the house, but its nice to be on the fastest!)
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Just to add to the body of knowledge surrounding this. I have an Airport Extreme (Gen2), which had a recent firmware upgrade. This set it's automatic channel selection to use channel 100 - which my GN could not see. It took a downgrade from 7.6 to 7.4.2 for it to use channel 36 - and now I'm happy and connected. (I have other b/g APs in the house, but its nice to be on the fastest!)
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Was it a case that the GN could not see your network at all before?
I mean, my GN can 'see' the N networks, it just won't grab an IP - it just says 'Saved, secured WPA2 etc...' and will not obtain an IP.
I'm gonna replace the handset soon anyway with the volume 2g problem.
For reference: The 5Ghz spectrum isn't required to use N-based routing. It'll give you a bit more distance and speed, but not very much (think in the range of an extra ~10%). It's a misconception that 5Ghz is the only way to use the N-band.
As far as distance goes, that shouldn't really matter for your phone unless you're on the absolute fringe of the range. As for speed, you'll absolutely never notice a difference using a phone. The only time you'd notice a difference in speed is when transferring large files from computer to computer (or if your data connection is upwards of 25Mbps, but this wouldn't matter for the phone, either).
OK, if this is just for reference, we'd best get it right ;-) All slightly off topic, but it goes someway to explaining why having the GN support for all the 5GHz channels would be useful.
Signal propagation at 5GHz is generally worse than at 2.4GHz. All other things being equal (xmit power, antenna gains, interference, etc) a 5GHz signal will actually have less range than a 2.4GHz one.
The 2.4GHz/5GHz issue isn't so much about range or relative throughput in the best case scenario. It's about the worst case scenario - what happens to your speed when there's interference.
The 2.4GHz band has three, useful, non-overlapping 20MHz channels (1,6 and 11). 5GHz has around 19 non overlapping 40MHz channels (of which the Galaxy Nexus supports a measly four) *and* a scheme for dynamically avoiding interference on-the-fly (DFS).
This translates into significantly more stable performance on 5GHz compared to a congested 2.4GHz band (as it is in most built up urban areas - eg I see about 30APs broadcasting on 2.4Ghz now from my home in central London).
TLDR; If you live in a field - 2.4GHz is fine. If you live in a city, 5GHz is the future.
I'd suggest the following for a good bit of background on WiFi, along with some useful benchmarks showing just why most domestic APs/Wifi routers are crap in any case:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wi-fi-performance,2985.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/571-wi-fi-beamforming-networking.html
Setting my Linksys 610 DDWrt router to channel 36 with a channel width of 40MHZ did the trick. Thanks!
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The 2.4GHz band has three, useful, non-overlapping 20MHz channels (1,6 and 11). 5GHz has around 19 non overlapping 40MHz channels (of which the Galaxy Nexus supports a measly four) *and* a scheme for dynamically avoiding interference on-the-fly (DFS).
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Does anyone know if the "measly four" is a mistake by the firmware, a regulatory thing or just a hardware limitation?
My router performs best at channel 161 (it's a DD-WRT firmware thing) which means I can't see it on my phone, but I'm fine to access it on both my netbook and laptop.
Just want to thank the OP for this truly excellent thread. I also uncovered that the GN can also connect to the UNII-3 and the 5.8 ISM bands (channels 149-165), which are also non-DFS.
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Just want to thank the OP for this truly excellent thread. I also uncovered that the GN can also connect to the UNII-3 and the 5.8 ISM bands (channels 149-165), which are also non-DFS.
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Seconded, I must have missed this post originally. I was pleasantly surprised to find that my GN connected to my Linksys E3000 running DD-WRT on channel 161 (40 MHz width).
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My bad. Think I was changing channels on the wrong AP when testing out 5GHz earlier.
The Galaxy Nexus does indeed support 5GHz, albeit on a limited number of channels (connecting at a 65MBps maximum datarate):
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Thank you very much. Simple, concise, worked perfectly. Cheers mate.
Like the title says, does anyone know for sure if the 900 supports 802.11n over 5ghz instead of 2.4ghz? been searching and i can't seem to find anything.
Thanks in advance
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Like the title says, does anyone know for sure if the 900 supports 802.11n over 5ghz instead of 2.4ghz? been searching and i can't seem to find anything.
Thanks in advance
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it does not. Samsung focus s did. The hd7, lumia 710 and 900 do not.
I can confirm. My Focus S saw and connected to my 5Ghz wireless with no problems.
The Lumia 900 doesn''t even 'see' it.
Just out of curiousity, what would you do with an N connection on your phone?
Just curious, not judging or questioning your need.
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Just out of curiousity, what would you do with an N connection on your phone?
Just curious, not judging or questioning your need.
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for me , I just want to connect with what's available. But I have the same type of question around camera quality..why do you expect voque quality pics from from a phone camera placed in your pocket.
Your question to the wireless gave tme the perspective for the camera!
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Just out of curiousity, what would you do with an N connection on your phone?
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I assume you're asking why would I need a 5GHz connection and not a 2.4GHz connection: both can be 802.11n.
The reason is simple in my case. From various spots in my apartment, there's upwards of 25 different wireless connections on the 2.4GHz band. There's zero on the 5GHz band. If I'm connected on 2.4GHz, I'm lucky to get a signal 20 feet from my router.
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I assume you're asking why would I need a 5GHz connection and not a 2.4GHz connection: both can be 802.11n.
The reason is simple in my case. From various spots in my apartment, there's upwards of 25 different wireless connections on the 2.4GHz band. There's zero on the 5GHz band. If I'm connected on 2.4GHz, I'm lucky to get a signal 20 feet from my router.
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No, I am asking what the benefit of a potential 300MB(N) connection VS 10MB(B) or 54MB(G) to a cell phone would be considering most home internet is in the 1MB to 10MB range.
So essentially, what does one need a 300MB connection to their cell phone?
However, in your case I assume you only have N on the 2.4G band and no B or G ?
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No, I am asking what the benefit of a potential 300MB(N) connection VS 10MB(B) or 54MB(G) to a cell phone would be considering most home internet is in the 1MB to 10MB range.
So essentially, what does one need a 300MB connection to their cell phone?
However, in your case I assume you only have N on the 2.4G band and no B or G ?
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I think it could be useful if you do the "Wireless Sync" option with Zune. 300MB/s internal network speeds would make wireless syncing a lot faster.
But now that I think about it - since wireless syncing usually happens at night, while you're asleep, and your phone is charging... super fast speeds probably aren't need anyway.
I ran WiFi Analyzer and it shows all the traffic on both and which channels are empty. The 5GHz band is a N-150
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I ran WiFi Analyzer and it shows all the traffic on both and which channels are empty. The 5GHz band is a N-150
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best way to test for sure would be to put the modem in 5ghz only mode. sucks that if its there you cant configure it in your settings. but then again i'm on a custom rom. So it may be there on stock.
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I ran WiFi Analyzer and it shows all the traffic on both and which channels are empty. The 5GHz band is a N-150
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okay so what are you asking?
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okay so what are you asking?
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Not asking, just didn't know that the Note 2 was dual standard. The best Link Speed @ 2.4 is 72 Mbps & @ 5.0 is 150 Mbps
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Problem worth of 5 ghz is the range is very small.
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Problem worth of 5 ghz is the range is very small.
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5ghz range on the Note 2 is pretty good depends on your router. my 5ghz is the same in my 2 story house is as my 2.4ghz with my ASUS rt-56u
now my linksys 5ghz router sucks
The real advantage of 5Ghz higher throughput (less noise, depending on where you live) which makes its only advantage is streaming media, file sharing, etc.. 2.4Ghz covers a larger area, and doesn't have near the amount of "dead zones" as 5Gz.
I use both, but when I'm on the other side of my house, the 5Ghz signal is generally -10 to -15dB worse then my 2.4Ghz signal.
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5ghz range on the Note 2 is pretty good depends on your router. my 5ghz is the same in my 2 story house is as my 2.4ghz with my ASUS rt-56u
now my linksys 5ghz router sucks
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It typically appears that way because of the amount of noise on 2.4Ghz. Where I live, in a subdivision, there is absolutely no clean channels. The airways are so clogged because routers can only operate between 11 (I think?) channels. To defend my theory I brought home a spectrum analyzer and was amazed. Every house in this survey is operating a router.
Dual band routers aren't as common, as well as less distance so the noise levels are typically great on 5Ghz. As I said earlier, the only advantage of 5Ghz is if you plan on streaming HD movies (lets say from a media centre to Boxee Box/Apple TV/Roku), or transferring files. 2.4Ghz will do just fine for everything else considering typical internet packages are less then 100Mb always.
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The real advantage of 5Ghz higher throughput (less noise, depending on where you live) which makes its only advantage is streaming media, file sharing, etc.. 2.4Ghz covers a larger area, and doesn't have near the amount of "dead zones" as 5Gz.
I use both, but when I'm on the other side of my house, the 5Ghz signal is generally -10 to -15dB worse then my 2.4Ghz signal.
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It typically appears that way because of the amount of noise on 2.4Ghz. Where I live, in a subdivision, there is absolutely no clean channels. The airways are so clogged because routers can only operate between 11 (I think?) channels. To defend my theory I brought home a spectrum analyzer and was amazed. Every house in this survey is operating a router.
Dual band routers aren't as common, as well as less distance so the noise levels are typically great on 5Ghz. As I said earlier, the only advantage of 5Ghz is if you plan on streaming HD movies (lets say from a media centre to Boxee Box/Apple TV/Roku), or transferring files. 2.4Ghz will do just fine for everything else considering typical internet packages are less then 100Mb always.
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I`m the ONLY person around who has it haha so only networks are mine which are 3
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I`m the ONLY person around who has it haha so only networks are mine which are 3
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HA well there was so much 2.4Ghz noise in my area that I decided to install one of my outdoor radios in my house. They can be configured in such a way that WiFi devices can associate with it.
Needless to say, my wireless range is now 2 Km from my house lol. I'll probably die one day from cancer because of too much RF energy, but so far so good. Wife and I just had baby number 4 so it hasn't done a whole lot yet haha!!
Is there any way to get the Note 2 to connect on both 2.4 & 5.0 at the same time?
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Is there any way to get the Note 2 to connect on both 2.4 & 5.0 at the same time?
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Nope. That's impossible. The radio in the Note is designed to associate to only one access point at a time. Whether it be 2.4 or 5.
It would also be useless. Having a phone locked onto to two ssid's would mean splitting the packets to two locations. Overcomplicated uses ordeal.
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Is there any way to get the Note 2 to connect on both 2.4 & 5.0 at the same time?
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And why would you even want to do that...?
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And why would you even want to do that...?
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I am trying to use a new app (XStream) that supports streaming of Windows 7 Media Center files (.wtv). So far this is the first software I found that supports that (Samsung USA support had no idea). I can record 4 HD cable TV channels (FIOS) at once on my PC. A one hour recording in HD is 5-8GB in size. I figured I needed as much bandwidth as possible to stream that size file.
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I am trying to use a new app (XStream) that supports streaming of Windows 7 Media Center files (.wtv). So far this is the first software I found that supports that (Samsung USA support had no idea). I can record 4 HD cable TV channels (FIOS) at once on my PC. A one hour recording in HD is 5-8GB in size. I figured I needed as much bandwidth as possible to stream that size file.
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Well it doesnt matter what you got you got even if you could connect to both at the same time it could not combine them. Wireless N should be able to handle that just fine.
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I am trying to use a new app (XStream) that supports streaming of Windows 7 Media Center files (.wtv). So far this is the first software I found that supports that (Samsung USA support had no idea). I can record 4 HD cable TV channels (FIOS) at once on my PC. A one hour recording in HD is 5-8GB in size. I figured I needed as much bandwidth as possible to stream that size file.
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Multiple connections to the same source does not equal a faster connection. In fact, the overhead and packet loss of two wireless connections would probably deteriorate the connection and, it would probably be slower than a single link.
I have two dual band routers bridged with one downstairs and one upstairs and connected by cat6. Blazing speeds on 5.0ghz in every inch of the house
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5ghz range on the Note 2 is pretty good depends on your router. my 5ghz is the same in my 2 story house is as my 2.4ghz with my ASUS rt-56u
now my linksys 5ghz router sucks
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I have the same router. This is not the case for me. I assume you are using the latest firmware updates for it from ASUS.
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What you do is get yourself a nice linksys router go online and flash linux tomato on that bad boy. Change the config setting to your liking up the transmit power and you got a 5ghz that goes 150 mbs at your neighbors house.
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Is there a way to switch from 2.4 to 5.0ghz om my note 2
Hi everyone,
I have my Nexus 7 connected to a Linksys WRT160N router with tomatoRAF firmware installed. This router+firmware+configuration setup was the best I could do without constant dropping of connection or not connecting at all, but still at very slow speed of 0,5 - 1,5 MB/s (average is more around 0,6) when copying files on local network (SMB) with ES File Explorer. Which is good enough for web surfing and emails, but not enough for IPTV and youtube (youtube works, but i have to wait for it a lot).
So far i have tried numerous configurations of my router, nothing works. I tried other routers, 9 to be exact, but i have never seen more than 2MB/s.
Now i'm thinking about buying new router, and I want to know what wifi speeds do you get with which router.
thanks
Hi,
what's your net speed? mine is 26 mbit/s and this is what i get. however, IF you stream sound with BT/have any BT service up and running and your wifi runs at 2.4ghz it is highly probable the two (bt and wifi) interfere. This was the problem i had and which i found out after buying soundbar which links with its subwoofer via BT(BT butchered my wifi, i was scoring 1mbit to up to 26). I have switched to dual band modem/router (tp link td-w8980). now, i have two WiFi networks at my place, one which runs at 2.4ghz and the second at 5ghz. the 5ghz is used only by my nexus :]
N7 2013, Buffalo N300 router, Verizon FiOS 75/25. The router is dual channel, but not dual band: 2.4GHz only.
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Hi everyone,
I have my Nexus 7 connected to a Linksys WRT160N router with tomatoRAF firmware installed. This router+firmware+configuration setup was the best I could do without constant dropping of connection or not connecting at all, but still at very slow speed of 0,5 - 1,5 MB/s (average is more around 0,6) when copying files on local network (SMB) with ES File Explorer. Which is good enough for web surfing and emails, but not enough for IPTV and youtube (youtube works, but i have to wait for it a lot).
So far i have tried numerous configurations of my router, nothing works. I tried other routers, 9 to be exact, but i have never seen more than 2MB/s.
Now i'm thinking about buying new router, and I want to know what wifi speeds do you get with which router.
thanks
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I had throughput issues with a Linksys WRT54GL and Tomato, was not a configuration problem. Loved the way Tomato worked, how it looked, it's options... but in the end, all I really cared about was throughput. Are you able to replicate the throughput issue on stock router firmware? You said you tried other routers. All the same model (RMA)?
Tell me more about your connectivity issues.
If you've used different routers from different manufacturers (with their respective stock firmware), then it's probably a problem with your tablet.
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I had throughput issues with a Linksys WRT54GL and Tomato, was not a configuration problem. Loved the way Tomato worked, how it looked, it's options... but in the end, all I really cared about was throughput. Are you able to replicate the throughput issue on stock router firmware? You said you tried other routers. All the same model (RMA)?
Tell me more about your connectivity issues.
If you've used different routers from different manufacturers (with their respective stock firmware), then it's probably a problem with your tablet.
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I had this throughput issue from the day I received my nexus 7 (2013), with stock firmware on router. But with stock firmware, the connection would drop randomly (from 5 minutes to 12 hours) and to reconnect i had to restart the router and nexus - this was corrected only with this firmware TomatoRAF (i tried dd-wrt and 2 more tomato firmwares - all kept disconnecting). I never had this throughput issue with any laptop, only this nexus.
The other routers i tried were all different routers, but all at least 3 years old.
Another information: friends nexus 7 (2013) WIFI, flo, also had same speeds on my router.
today i will try to test a few phones and a laptop on my router and will post results as soon as i can
32gb lte model, I use an Asus ac66u and Comcast 105\25 Mbps. 5ghz WiFi gets me 90 Mbps down and 22-30 up, 55 Mbps down and 22-30 up on 2.4 GHz.
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This is what i get (copying files from server with es file explorer):
nexus 7 2013 (kitkat) - 760kB/s
1st xperia ray (kitkat) - 750kB/s
2nd xperia ray (jellybean) - 530kB/s
xperia mini pro (jellybean) - 560kB/s
galaxy s4 mini - 1070kB/s
laptop - 6500kB/s
I used to get 10MB/s+ on my laptop with original linksys firmware, but now i configured router to be more "reliable" and i would be more than happy if nexus had 6,5MB/s connection.
I attached some info about router configuration. If there is an "expert" reading this willing to help, i can post more complete configuration.
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32gb lte model, I use an Asus ac66u and Comcast 105\25 Mbps. 5ghz WiFi gets me 90 Mbps down and 22-30 up, 55 Mbps down and 22-30 up on 2.4 GHz.
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Are you happy with ac66u? any problems? what about lan to wifi speeds (with laptop/ac adapter)? i am asking as it is a serious contender for my next router
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32gb lte model, I use an Asus ac66u and Comcast 105\25 Mbps. 5ghz WiFi gets me 90 Mbps down and 22-30 up, 55 Mbps down and 22-30 up on 2.4 GHz.
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I think I hate you! Ok... maybe I'm just a little jealous!
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Are you happy with ac66u? any problems? what about lan to wifi speeds (with laptop/ac adapter)? i am asking as it is a serious contender for my next router
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Considering how inexpensive it was I"m extremely happy with the TP-Link WR1043ND that I use. With aftermarket antennas I bought as an experiment and the current firmware installed signal strength through walls and general performance is great. I thought about installing third-party firmware on it when I first got it a couple years ago but see no need. For the package I have from Comcast they advertise I think 25 Mbps down and 5Mbps up and I usually see 28/6. If you haven't already done so make sure your router is using the best channel for your location. Also, I see a lot of people move off of channels 1, 6 and 11 which can make them see/cause more bleedover from/to adjacent channels. You can see that in my screenshot with networks MercedesBenz and Sandvik. I live in a house but the effect in an apartment or condo would be worse. I also use a repeater because my router is at the opposite end of the house from my backyard patio and this house has insulated steel siding. Wifi Analyzer is a free app and works great to figure out what channel would work best for you.
Also in the N7's wifi advanced settings I use "2.4 GHz only" which seems to make it reconnect faster when waking up the device because I also use "only when plugged in" during sleep.
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Are you happy with ac66u? any problems? what about lan to wifi speeds (with laptop/ac adapter)? i am asking as it is a serious contender for my next router
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I haven't had any problems. All my large lan transfers are done over Ethernet cat 6. If it can pull down 90mbps from wan to wlan on two phones and a tablet, well then there's your sign lol. All these speeds are on n WiFi, I haven't even tried ac because all my machines that need all available bandwidth are hardwired. The router hasn't even required rebooting unless one counts firmware updates and such. Hardline lan to lan is right about 100 MB/s.there's an even faster model out called the ac68u but it's significantly more expensive.
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I have the 32GB LTE version... Using an Asus RT-N66U as my access point...
On 2.4 ghz I get 22.5 mbps down and 7.5 mbps up*
On 5 gzh I get 68.4 mbps down and 11.5 mbps up... which is the max speeds I see from my ISP.
*note: there are about 18 strong 2.4 ghz networks visible at my location (surrounded by apartment buildings). 2.4 ghz performance consistently suffers with this level of interference across all of my connected devices.
As far as the RT-N66U goes... I'm very happy with it's performance and range of signal. I was a long time WRT54G user with tomato. This matches almost perfectly.
How do i force the use of a 2.4Ghz WiFi network on my Pixel 2 XL ?
and.. no... turning off the 5Ghz network is not an option as the rest of the devices in the house are all 5GHZ
I have some home automation equipment that has a 2.4Ghz ONLY command hub. It automatically picks a 2.4 channel based on channel usage.
Unfortunately, the app and control device only know to use 2.4Ghz
I can't get my Pixel 2 XL to connect to the control unit as my phone always connects to 5Ghz. All the options within android do not have a setting to force connecting at 2.4Ghz.
I cant return the equipment and the manufacturer said the manual states the need for a 2.4Ghz WiFi capable phone to use with the app. Their website makes no mention of this.
imaverik said:
How do i force the use of a 2.4Ghz WiFi network on my Pixel 2 XL ?
and.. no... turning off the 5Ghz network is not an option as the rest of the devices in the house are all 5GHZ
I have some home automation equipment that has a 2.4Ghz ONLY command hub. It automatically picks a 2.4 channel based on channel usage.
Unfortunately, the app and control device only know to use 2.4Ghz
I can't get my Pixel 2 XL to connect to the control unit as my phone always connects to 5Ghz. All the options within android do not have a setting to force connecting at 2.4Ghz.
I cant return the equipment and the manufacturer said the manual states the need for a 2.4Ghz WiFi capable phone to use with the app. Their website makes no mention of this.
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I'm no tech genius by any means. However, I don't think you can alter the modem in the phone to only pick up 2.4Ghz. I have a similar situation in my house. So, I had my internet provider set up 2 different networks, one 5Ghz and one 2.4Ghz. They have the same password, but different SSID's. Don't know if that helps, but it's the best I can do :good:
What router are you using? My Asus router has 2 separate wifi networks for 2.4 and 5.0, but the devices on each can talk to each other. For example my OG Chromecast in the office is on 2.4 and my phone on 5.0 has no problem whatsoever casting to it. I believe the printer is also on 2.4, and every device on 5 can print no problems. There has to be some setting in the router to allow them to be one network.
Yeah my router has a regular SSID and the same name with _5G at the end. If you have something similar, just forget the 5G network and stick to the 2.4G one.
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Yeah my router has a regular SSID and the same name with _5G at the end. If you have something similar, just forget the 5G network and stick to the 2.4G one.
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I too have a 2.4 and 5Ghz network. It does seem though its one network on 2 different frequency's. All the dvices in the house only see one network. i got my old 2.4Ghz only usb adapter and it had no issue connecting. so that tells me its one broadcast over two frequency's.
ill have to change this. thanks!
this isn't about 2.4Ghz vs 5.0Ghz frequencies - this is about Network Isolation
If you're having this issue, disable Network Isolation on your router
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this isn't about 2.4Ghz vs 5.0Ghz frequencies - this is about Network Isolation
If you're having this issue, disable Network Isolation on your router
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I see what you mean. Disabling network isolation should let his Pixel stay on the 5g GHz network yet control the hub that can only do 2.4GHz.
EeZeEpEe said:
I see what you mean. Disabling network isolation should let his Pixel stay on the 5g GHz network yet control the hub that can only do 2.4GHz.
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yep, that's correct. It's not usually a setting that's ON by default either
I have a similar problem with some smart outlets that I purchased. You pair them to wifi through your phone but I can't get my phone to connect to 2.4ghz and the plugs aren't compatible with 5ghz. The app isn't smart enough to realize that there is a 2.4ghz with same name/password.
My router is a Google Asus Onhub which has 2.4 and 5ghz with same ID. I ended up pulling out an old wifi extender to get a separate 2.4ghz channel. It works but now I have an extra wifi connection in my house. Not my ideal solution but it worked.
I did some reading after seeing this post and it was suggested to take the plugs and my phone someplace in my house that the 5ghz won't reach but the 2.4 will and my phone will use the 2.4. Then I can pair them with 2.4. So I might try that if I can find a place that the 5ghz won't reach.
henderjr said:
I have a similar problem with some smart outlets that I purchased. You pair them to wifi through your phone but I can't get my phone to connect to 2.4ghz and the plugs aren't compatible with 5ghz. The app isn't smart enough to realize that there is a 2.4ghz with same name/password.
My router is a Google Asus Onhub which has 2.4 and 5ghz with same ID. I ended up pulling out an old wifi extender to get a separate 2.4ghz channel. It works but now I have an extra wifi connection in my house. Not my ideal solution but it worked.
I did some reading after seeing this post and it was suggested to take the plugs and my phone someplace in my house that the 5ghz won't reach but the 2.4 will and my phone will use the 2.4. Then I can pair them with 2.4. So I might try that if I can find a place that the 5ghz won't reach.
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Which brand of smart outlets are you using? That sucks it can't find the 2.4 GHz network of the same SSID of the 5 GHz.
EeZeEpEe said:
Which brand of smart outlets are you using? That sucks it can't find the 2.4 GHz network of the same SSID of the 5 GHz.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075Z17987/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_A5CSAbKDPT8TD
They work fine otherwise. Most I've looked at all only support 2.4 GHz.
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henderjr said:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075Z17987/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_A5CSAbKDPT8TD
They work fine otherwise. Most I've looked at all only support 2.4 GHz.
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Oh okay. I'm thinking of getting a couple TP-link ones.
Yeah I have a Roomba and a smart switch which both require 2.4 GHz network too. But my router and repeater are able to do separate 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz networks. So they're on the 2.4 GHz while my Pixel 2 XL is on the 5 GHz and I can still control them from my phone.
Router: Google Wifi
phone: Pixel XL
Problem: Can't disable the 5 band on the router. Can't select the 2.4 band on the phone.
Solution: Turn on the phone wifi while standing out near my mailbox. Then it connected to 2.4 and allowed me to setup my smart bulbs.
That's a crazy work around. LOL
ShayneF said:
Router: Google Wifi
phone: Pixel XL
Problem: Can't disable the 5 band on the router. Can't select the 2.4 band on the phone.
Solution: Turn on the phone wifi while standing out near my mailbox. Then it connected to 2.4 and allowed me to setup my smart bulbs.
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Why not forget both the 2.4 and 5G networks in your WiFi settings. Rename the 2.4 and 5G to have different names in the Google Wifi, then only connect to the 2.4 Ghz/enter the password. With separate names for the 2.4 and 5Ghz you should be able to isolate.
Separate names is exactly how I manage my 2.4 and 5 GHz networks.
iceman4357 said:
Why not forget both the 2.4 and 5G networks in your WiFi settings. Rename the 2.4 and 5G to have different names in the Google Wifi, then only connect to the 2.4 Ghz/enter the password. With separate names for the 2.4 and 5Ghz you should be able to isolate.
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What is the difference between 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz? I always connect to 5Ghz because the network speed is a lot faster, but that is the only difference that I've seen
5 GHz is faster but shorter range. 2.4 GHz is slower but further range.
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What is the difference between 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz? I always connect to 5Ghz because the network speed is a lot faster, but that is the only difference that I've seen
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EeZeEpEe said:
Oh okay. I'm thinking of getting a couple TP-link ones.
Yeah I have a Roomba and a smart switch which both require 2.4 GHz network too. But my router and repeater are able to do separate 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz networks. So they're on the 2.4 GHz while my Pixel 2 XL is on the 5 GHz and I can still control them from my phone.
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I've got tp link and I use an Asus tri band router (2.4, 5lo, 5hi) and they all work fine across channels with each other.
That's because your router works the way it should. Your phone is on the 5.0GHz but can see the TP-Link on 2.4GHz. See my attached specifications for the TP-Link dimmer. It's 2.4GHz.
People with issues have to manually switch to 2.4GHz.
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I've got tp link and I use an Asus tri band router (2.4, 5lo, 5hi) and they all work fine across channels with each other.
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