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Which Note 2 supports more networks and frequencies; and therefore, which would be more suitable for international travel. Is the Verizon Note 2 even pentaband?
T mobile version because it's gsm which is going to work overseas. Verizon is a CDMA and I haven't read that it has gsm support.
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Rhiannon224 said:
T mobile version because it's gsm which is going to work overseas. Verizon is a CDMA and I haven't read that it has gsm support.
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Yup, the T-Mobile version will work in more places overseas -- Especially Europe. Just in case, you might want to ask this in the Verizon area also just to make sure. :good:
I'm confused because on Samsungs website, http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I605TSAVZW-specs
the Verizon Model has the GSM frequencies,
is it GSM if unlocked; i believe the Note 2 is already unlocked by verizon, will it work on GSM frequencies internationally?
correct me if I'm wrong, thanks
the verizon Galaxy Note II apparently has the GSM radios,
also has LTE; doesn't AT&T LTE work along same frequencies as verizon LTE
or is the verizon LTE exlusively to CDMA?
All Galaxy Note 2 devices seem to have all WCDMA, GSM, and LTE bands.
But what I understand is that Verizon version is considered as a "world" phone. I know that they tell me that I can use their Galaxy Note 2 on the European Networks.
I have played around with the bands on my T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2 and can get the WCDMA and LTE working. So I don't know if the Modem firmware in all Galaxy Note 2 are the same and just need to be activated by the carrier's sim card or not. Someone please educate us on the this. I know that their is talk of needing OTA update to activate the LTE within T-Mobile GN2. But if the Modem is all the same then can just updating or exchanging the sim card could do the same? Or does the nv file also needs to be updated to activate the band/s as well?
The question is not if Galaxy Note 2 (all verisons) have the bands. But how to (the actual process) activate the band, in question, and get the Galaxy Note 2 in working order with the carrier of choice? What is the method? How to do the process of this method?
Please correct me if I am getting this wrong.
^ good point, and also just to ask about the verizon note 2 again, i thought it carries carries an an additional radio for CDMA, does this mean that the verizon note 2 model has better capabilities worldwide' since it is virtually compatible with all networks in the world (simply tweaks to the frequencies to the radio can get the verizon variant working virtually anywhere) please correct me if I'm wrong here. thanks
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Problem I have seen in the past with Verizon world phones is that the game frequencies only work overseas. And lte is gsm band. Which is one of the few reasons Verizon phones have a sim slot to begin with
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All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
But doesn't Verizon use LTE on the 700 band just like AT&T and future TMobile LTE?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Please correct me if I'm wrong, thank you.
nerdydesi said:
All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
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So the Verizon Note2 is like the AT&T Note2 & Sprint Note2 (supporting 21Mbps HSPA+ but not 42Mbps like T-Mobile) but all only with their own respective LTE?..wouldn't it be more cost effective for Samsung just to make 1 phone with all the hardware to support all (isn't the iPhone5 like that now?) or is it cost prohibitive or do carriers not want to make it easier to unlock?
Are we still confident that the T-Mobile Note2 is the best if we want the flexibility to use on all carriers? How often is >21Mbps HSPA+ seen in real world use & why is the disabled LTE not listed at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1877 ?
So, which is better then, Verizon or T-Mobile? Verizon's Note 2 also includes a CDMA radio whereas the T-Mobile version does not. If you are using the Note 2 in the US, wouldn't you have more flexible options in terms of which carrier to use?
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All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
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So do we consider the Verizon Note2 even more carrier flexible than T-Mobile's Note2 (as I was about ready to buy the T-Mobile Note2 to try their $30/mo plan but now having some doubts..if I want this tomorrow I need to order soon) ?
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Well LTE On the Verizon Note 2 is only compatible with Verizon's Network. Even if unlocked; the phone's firmware only recognizes LTE if only the Verizon 750 band is detected. Verizon has its own exclusive LTE bands compared to AT&T and Future T-Mobile LTE (sharing the same LTE bands)
SMARTPHONEPC said:
So do we consider the Verizon Note2 even more carrier flexible than T-Mobile's Note2 (as I was about ready to buy the T-Mobile Note2 to try their $30/mo plan but now having some doubts..if I want this tomorrow I need to order soon) ?
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I cannot speak to the CDMA radio issue, but I am positive that Verizon LTE will not work with any GSM LTE phone. The frequencies are similar, but Verizon is using a different LTE protocol. I asked that question a long time ago, thinking that LTE would finally allow roaming between Verizon and AT&T, but they are too clever to allow such a democratic system to function. They will remain fundamentally incompatible, not because they need to be, but because they want it that way to keep you locked to your carrier by your choice of device. Nice, eh?
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The Verizon NoteII will (in theory) connect to any gsm carrier. How to do so, I don't know.
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^^^ Well, the Verizon Note 2 will not be able to work with another carrier's LTE than itself.
my experience
Hey folks,
I've got the Verizon Note 2 and I love it. If you're willing to unlock the bootloader and then install a hack onto your device, you'll easily be able to swap the SIM card out and use it just about anywhere. Yes, the phone is carrier unlocked (not the same as bootloader unlocked). The issue is that in the settings, they won't let you add the specific APNs for the carriers you need. I"m not sure how else to get around that without installing some of the hacks. I managed to do it and it works beautifully on Canada's Bell Mobility, HSPA+ is screamingly fast and the LTE on VErizon in the States is just insanely fast. My recommendation: get the Verizon version because they've built out their LTE much more than their rivals at this point.
On anantech the reviewer stated that the tmobile version would be the most compatible. If you get vzw note2 and switch you wont get lte on tmob or att. Quite frankly vzw is too expensive and the coverage from tmobile is getting better by the month. Not to mention their business pricing is better than any of the other carriers.
I'm currently on att with a note 2 and i've switched to t-mobile and will be recieving a new phone in the mail soon. Should i return it and just flash a t-mobile rom onto my current phone? or should i just sell my att one on craigslist and keep the new t-mobile phone? Any possible loss of features or functionality by sticking with the phone i have?
Keep the tmo one.
It dosent have lte yet, so hang on to att one too I suggest but tmo has added aws band.
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Keep the tmo one.
It dosent have lte yet, so hang on to att one too I suggest but tmo has added aws band.
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I don't understand your answer to the OP.
I'm in the exact same situation as the OP. I'm with AT&T but they just took my unlimited data plan away so I'm probably going to switch to T-Mobile.
Are there any bands that the T-Mobile Note 2 has that can't be unlocked on the AT&T model? According to Wikipedia both AT&T and T-Mobile version of the Note 2 have AWS. I heard that you can enable the high speed bands on AT&T's model to work with T-Mobile. Is taht not true?
rogerbacon50 said:
I don't understand your answer to the OP.
I'm in the exact same situation as the OP. I'm with AT&T but they just took my unlimited data plan away so I'm probably going to switch to T-Mobile.
Are there any bands that the T-Mobile Note 2 has that can't be unlocked on the AT&T model? According to Wikipedia both AT&T and T-Mobile version of the Note 2 have AWS. I heard that you can enable the high speed bands on AT&T's model to work with T-Mobile. Is taht not true?
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Tmo hasnt released the update to let tmo gnotes2 work on their lte network, because its not up and running most places... Possibly only update customers who are in Kansas City.
Not too clear if att gnotes2 with att specific firmware would work on tmo's network. Theoretically it should work, but their might be some radio issues that give u shoddy service. Unlocking phones is illegal now, so idk if u could sim unlock ur phone through att to work for tmo anyways. Might have to go through ebay or something to do so.
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So, What did the carrier do to this device?
In this thread, let's list the things we find that makes the T-Mobile version of the SGS4 unique from other versions...
Obviously the radios, but what else?
Anything special? Good? Bad? Enabled? Disabled?
It works best only on T-Mobile.
It have a shiny T-MOBILE logo on the back and it's only made for t-mobile sgs4:good:
is our version unlocked?
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Wait, the T-Mobile version has FM radio, or are you referring to the SIM? Also, the T-Mobile one has an imprinted logo on the device?
How about wifi calling and HD Voice on T-mobile. Also, extra bands 1700/1900 AWS?? I think this means that we can take our phones to ATT and use their entire network (LTE, 4G, etc), but ATT phones can't use all of T-Mobiles...at least for now.
zamboni52 said:
How about wifi calling and HD Voice on T-mobile. Also, extra bands 1700/1900 AWS?? I think this means that we can take our phones to ATT and use their entire network (LTE, 4G, etc), but ATT phones can't use all of T-Mobiles...at least for now.
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wifi calling and HD Voice on T-mobile
zamboni52 said:
How about wifi calling and HD Voice on T-mobile. Also, extra bands 1700/1900 AWS?? I think this means that we can take our phones to ATT and use their entire network (LTE, 4G, etc), but ATT phones can't use all of T-Mobiles...at least for now.
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Can someone confirm this? I have the AT&T model and if that's the case I'll buy the T-Mobile version lol
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It was made in China instead of Korea!
T-Mo Bootloader is confirmed unlocked. Source.
zamboni52 said:
How about wifi calling and HD Voice on T-mobile. Also, extra bands 1700/1900 AWS?? I think this means that we can take our phones to ATT and use their entire network (LTE, 4G, etc), but ATT phones can't use all of T-Mobiles...at least for now.
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T-mobile uses 1700/2100 AWS bands.
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T-Mo Bootloader is confirmed unlocked. Source.
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This is GREAT news!
Fantastic!
The T-Mobile is the only variant in the states that is Pentaband. None of the US variants have FM radio, only the I9505 has it.
Google Wallet working?
Is Google Wallet being blocked again in the Play Store for the T-Mobile S4?
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Is Google Wallet being blocked again in the Play Store for the T-Mobile S4?
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unfortunately yes... i don't know why t mobile do this
I will give you one reason, Cyanogen has one running cyanogenmod.
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T-Mo Bootloader is confirmed unlocked. Source.
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Is it still only 8.8GB available on the device? That's a huge chunk coming from 13 or whatever on the 16gb S3.
Either way, I'll probably be getting the S4 soon... I'm still going to wait and see what comes of the Snapdragon 800 and what Google and/or Motorola have in the pipes but if T-Mobile gets LTE live in Denver before that (which it doesn't seem likely), I will probably get an S4. I am extremely relieved that its not locked like the at&t version!
Pentaband - Awesome.
Bootloader unlocked - Awesome.
Wifi Calling - Awesome.
CM coming if TW gets boring and laggy.
T Mobile logo on back - Not good but can be replaced by a different back cover.
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The T-Mobile is the only variant in the states that is Pentaband. None of the US variants have FM radio, only the I9505 has it.
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AFAICT so far, there is not ANY GS4 variant supporting OTA FM radio, officially or otherwise.
Will the international version work properly on vzw? All bands?
I dont think it will work on verizon and sprint something with the chipset. thats why they went with snapdragon.
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Yes it will work. The best way to check is to just try. I used an unlocked AT&T Variant S7 Edge on my Verizon, and it worked! Although AT&T uses GSM technology most 4G LTE bands overlap.
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State.of.mind said:
Yes it will work. The best way to check is to just try. I used an unlocked AT&T Variant S7 Edge on my Verizon, and it worked! Although AT&T uses GSM technology most 4G LTE bands overlap.
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The at&t version is not the international version. The international version does not fully work for cellular calling on Verizon.
Im using the 975F on ATT at the moment. the 975F is missing band 30, which ATT uses in cities. It is a real headache. Signal is poor, data speed is sometimes non-existent etc.
I notice Sprint and Verizion's LTE bands are all covered by the 975F. At the same time, the 3G bands are not. I am interested to know if anyone out there uses the 975F on either Sprint or Verizon, and what the experience is like.
thanks
I'm using SM-N975F/DS SIN on Verizon with no problems
Really? without any issues at all? LTE works fine? Because it is the exynos version I thought it wouldnt work with the international version
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I'm using SM-N975F/DS SIN on Verizon with no problems
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You get LTE. What about 3G.