A705FN to A705FN/DS ??? - Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers

Hello, i have the sam A705FN (non dual sim varient, however other network providers here do have the DS varient)
When i took this phone i assumed i would get th Dual sim varient.
I see on my sim tray i have shouldhve had space for 3 cards (one last slot is blanked out)
Now my question is, if i get a ds varient sim tray will i be able to ise dual sim, even if i need to somehow flash the ds firmware.
And does the fn varient even have the hardware to support dual sim

STiCKxaH said:
Hello, i have the sam A705FN (non dual sim varient, however other network providers here do have the DS varient)
When i took this phone i assumed i would get th Dual sim varient.
I see on my sim tray i have shouldhve had space for 3 cards (one last slot is blanked out)
Now my question is, if i get a ds varient sim tray will i be able to ise dual sim, even if i need to somehow flash the ds firmware.
And does the fn varient even have the hardware to support dual sim
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all A705FN firmwares are for dual sim , exept on your device the dual sim is greyed out , you can buy a dual sim varient but tell me whats your country and service provider

STiCKxaH said:
Hello, i have the sam A705FN (non dual sim varient, however other network providers here do have the DS varient)
When i took this phone i assumed i would get th Dual sim varient.
I see on my sim tray i have shouldhve had space for 3 cards (one last slot is blanked out)
Now my question is, if i get a ds varient sim tray will i be able to ise dual sim, even if i need to somehow flash the ds firmware.
And does the fn varient even have the hardware to support dual sim
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I don't think you can use dual sim even if you used the tray form a dual sim model. If the phone only shows 1 IMEI number the device probably only has 1 sim card slot.

Sreedev the bro said:
I don't think you can use dual sim even if you used the tray form a dual sim model. If the phone only shows 1 IMEI number the device probably only has 1 sim card slot.
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true but you can trick the phone by adding a 2st imei from another phone , also the firmware check of your hardware is compatible , so if it detect a dual sim it could theorically work and the settings would appear again or not be greyed out anymore

BK said:
true but you can trick the phone by adding a 2st imei from another phone , also the firmware check of your hardware is compatible , so if it detect a dual sim it could theorically work and the settings would appear again or not be greyed out anymore
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How can we be sure that there is a second sim card reader in it?

y.erenbektas said:
How can we be sure that there is a second sim card reader in it?
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Yeah you can't be sure. My guess would be that it does not have a second sim card reader because it doesn't make sense for a company to make hardware and disable it through software (Even though it could and has happened). Cant be sure until somebody does a teardown comparison.

BK said:
all A705FN firmware are for dual sim , exept on your device the dual sim is greyed out , you can buy a dual sim varient but tell me whats your country and service provider
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Hey, sorry for only getting back to you now, life has been busy..
but here's what's happened since i last posted.
I have an a70 from MTN-SA (mobile telecommunications network south Africa)
it is a single sim tray.
i used a sim tray from the Samsung galaxy a50 Dual sim variant, with no second sim detected unfortunately.
i wonder if the device has the hardware to support a second sim. If so, i do have an extra IMEI number to use that i got off a cheapo dual sim china phone.

Sreedev the bro said:
Yeah you can't be sure. My guess would be that it does not have a second sim card reader because it doesn't make sense for a company to make hardware and disable it through software (Even though it could and has happened). Cant be sure until somebody does a teardown comparison.
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i wondered the same thing.. But there is a dual sim variant of this device out in the wild.
My country doesn't allow dual sim (only with 2 specific carriers [cell-c & Telkom Mobile (8ta)])
so it's weird that they would make two separate hardware revisions for the same market?

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What are the dual sim and single sim model numbers

Hi Guys
Im getting this phone through a carrier in South Africa and I want to find out wich version im getting.I want to know what are the model numbers for the dual sim and single sim variants and wich single sim variants can be flashed to unlock dual sim capability
Regards
Edit:found out that its the Brazilian XT1635-02.Its dual sim but one of the sim slots is a hybrid sim/sdcard slot
Edit 09\06\2017:Got the phone today.Its XT1635-02 with retry firmware.The second Sim slot has a plastic cover but otherwise from what I can tell it has the hardware in place to accept dual sim

Dual SIM tray

Hey I see that you can use a dual SIM card tray... Where do you get them from ?
Thank you
Edit I have 5g version if that matters
Update - I have UK on ee 5g pro but SIM tray will only take one SIM it's not double sided.
i bought one from ebay
just search for oneplus 7 pro sim tray
I don't think the 5g model will take 2 sims. (Noticed your 2nd post so you presumably already know this )
I don't know if the 5g is dual SIM how can I find out? It has no settings in UI for a 2nd SIM
Anyone know if the 5g version is dual SIM... Two different people say two different things.
Regards
has anyone checked this out for the 5G version yet? might just order one and try it.
The 5G model can do dual-SIM, but you will lose 5G. You literally would have to flash it do a different firmware to achieve this or hope for someone to create a ROM with the 5G firmware that enables dual-SIM. The hardware is capable of dual-SIM, it's just disabled in the 5G firmware.
eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-Du...var=522291973382&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Due to arrive in 7 to 10 days.
Update: it works perfectly!
How did you get.it to work

Question If I use a duel SIM tray in my Single SIM (but displays 2 IMEIs in about phone)?

Has anyone attempted making their single SIM GP6 or GP6P Dual SIM just by changing the tray?
J/Wing before I order tray and find out....
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The 6 Pro (and I believe the 6) are dual sim, its just one sim is an eSim, not a physical sim. Changing the tray will not make any difference as there is not 2 physical sim readers in the phone.
400ixl said:
The 6 Pro (and I believe the 6) are dual sim, its just one sim is an eSim, not a physical sim. Changing the tray will not make any difference as there is not 2 physical sim readers in the phone.
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On OS's like LOS and StratiX I believe it reads 2 IMEI and 1 ESID for eSIM.
It should also be kept in mind that Google Pixels do not have "true" dual sim (sim/sim or sim/esim in this case), but "Dual SIM Dual Standby" (DSDS). So even if the in-built sim card/scanner would be replaced, that doesn't solve the software level limitation to DSDS (only one sim can be used for calls, and the other one for sms and vice versa).

Question Le2125 dual sim

Like title says, can I put a dual sim tray in my 9 pro north american LE2125 to get dual sim?
as far as i know, only the telekom model (le2127) is not a dual sim device
jamescable said:
Like title says, can I put a dual sim tray in my 9 pro north american LE2125 to get dual sim?
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Hi, I have an dual sim card tray in my unlocked NA model, the same model you are referring to. i bought it (dual sim tray)off of Amazon from a link someone posted quite a while back when android 12 was first coming out. There was a thread here with the info at the time. I haven't ever got to use the other sim because at the time they had a few uncertainties. I'm still on a android 11 based custom ROM.
jamescable said:
Like title says, can I put a dual sim tray in my 9 pro north american LE2125 to get dual sim?
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But its already dual
Mr Hassan said:
But its already dual
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It is? Strange, my sim tray is only a single sim, my ROMs only show 1 sim number. And yes, my phone model IS LE2125 and not the T-Mobile version. I have used the LE2125 msm numerous times and global OOS and never had issues with modem/base bands and stuff so my model is the north american global unlocked
jamescable said:
It is? Strange, my sim tray is only a single sim, my ROMs only show 1 sim number. And yes, my phone model IS LE2125 and not the T-Mobile version. I have used the LE2125 msm numerous times and global OOS and never had issues with modem/base bands and stuff so my model is the north american global unlocked
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is your device perhaps a telecom device (telecom devices are only single sim) which has been flashed to a global device?
ChrisFeiveel84 said:
is your device perhaps a telecom device (telecom devices are only single sim) which has been flashed to a global device?
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No, even if it WAS flashed to global, I would have to use the T-Mobile msm, which I don't need or use. Also, don't have radio issues using custom ROMs like T-Mobile users have.
ChrisFeiveel84 said:
as far as i know, only the telekom model (le2127) is not a dual sim device
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No, LE2115 and LE2125 are both single SIM. In fact the T-Mobile LE2127 is a dual SIM device, one of the reasons people were buying it, but it's totally unstable, as it ships with a single SIM tray and the second is disabled.
I received a couple days ago from Amazon my order for OnePlus 9 Pro 5G LE2123 Dual SIM 12GB+256GB EU/UK Model Global ROM Factory Unlocked International Version. After setting it up and done migrating all my files from my OnePlus 8 Pro Model IN 2025 Dual Sim, I am surprised to see that the item I received is the Model LE2125 which is confirmed Dual Sim.
My previous research all said that Model LE2125 is only Single SIM, but here is my newly delivered Model LE2125 and it is indeed Dual SIM and both SIM cards are confirmed working. Can anyone enlighten or confirm that LE2125 is actually not Single SIM?
My primary TMobile card on Sim 1 is working fine and picking up 5G, while my secondary international roaming card on Sim 2 is also working.
Your feedback and input will be appreciated. Thank you much.
badfinger said:
I received a couple days ago from Amazon my order for OnePlus 9 Pro 5G LE2123 Dual SIM 12GB+256GB EU/UK Model Global ROM Factory Unlocked International Version. After setting it up and done migrating all my files from my OnePlus 8 Pro Model IN 2025 Dual Sim, I am surprised to see that the item I received is the Model LE2125 which is confirmed Dual Sim.
My previous research all said that Model LE2125 is only Single SIM, but here is my newly delivered Model LE2125 and it is indeed Dual SIM and both SIM cards are confirmed working. Can anyone enlighten or confirm that LE2125 is actually not Single SIM?
My primary TMobile card on Sim 1 is working fine and picking up 5G, while my secondary international roaming card on Sim 2 is also working.
Your feedback and input will be appreciated. Thank you much.
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So, LE2125 is single sim ONLY. I know because I bought a dual sim tray and put 2 active T-Mobile sims in it and only 1 showed up.
But mine is LE2125 and I was surprised to see that it is in fact DUAL SIM, with dual sim tray and both sim cards are working (I put in my primary US T-Mobile sim in tray 1 and my international roaming sim card in tray 2). I bought the device from Amazon Marketplace used or refurbished.
Please see the 3 screenshots I posted showing the ModeLE2125 with 2 Sims and 2 IMEIs in device settings.
badfinger said:
But mine is LE2125 and I was surprised to see that it is in fact DUAL SIM, with dual sim tray and both sim cards are working (I put in my primary US T-Mobile sim in tray 1 and my international roaming sim card in tray 2). I bought the device from Amazon Marketplace used or refurbished.
Please see the 3 screenshots I posted showing the ModeLE2125 with 2 Sims and 2 IMEIs in device settings.
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I think your software may be LE2125 but its either T-Mobile hardware or EU hardware.
Thank you for your kind observation. But all I can say is that this LE2125 is DUAL SIM with dual sim tray with 2 sim cards working (even my international roaming sim card on sim 2 receives my multiple test sms mesages sent from my US Tmobile number). So, as a hardware this LE2125 is working fine. As far as its sotware is concerned, it's already beyond me how it got into the device.
Thank you anyway for your input.
badfinger said:
Thank you for your kind observation. But all I can say is that this LE2125 is DUAL SIM with dual sim tray with 2 sim cards working (even my international roaming sim card on sim 2 receives my multiple test sms mesages sent from my US Tmobile number). So, as a hardware this LE2125 is working fine. As far as its hardware is concerned, it's already beyond me how it got into the device.
Thank you anyway for your input.
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What I am meaning is, you phone might actually be LE2123 or LE2127 with north American OOS showing LE2125. Software is not hardware specific. Some ROMs will change your model number
Thank you so much for this info, that software is not hardware specific. This info is very new to me as I thought all along that frequency bands on a device is dictated by the physical hardware itself and not assigned via mere software configuration.
badfinger said:
Thank you so much for this info, that software is not hardware specific. This info is very new to me as I thought all along that frequency bands on a device is dictated by the physical hardware itself and not assigned via mere software configuration.
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It's not the bands that are being spoken of, it's the hardware model shown in the settings. If you have a full conversion device, it's possible to convert from, say, LE2127 T-Mobile to show LE2125 US unlocked instead.
This is likely what happened because T-Mobile devices sell for cheap because nobody wants to deal with the headaches from them.
Thank you for this valuable information. I thought specific device models made for let's say, Europe, China, US have the radio hardware baked in with specific 5G or 4G LTE bands that work in specific regional markets.
badfinger said:
Thank you for this valuable information. I thought specific device models made for let's say, Europe, China, US have the radio hardware baked in with specific 5G or 4G LTE bands that work in specific regional markets.
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They DO have this. Changing your model number with software won't change the bands that are supported, it just can change the model number (which is incredibly stupid as it makes it easy for people to sell a phone as something that it's not).
Wow, thank you again. Yes, it looks like it borders on deceitful practice although it is not illegal.
if u wanna be absolutely sure which model u're getting, check the IMEI number against online database.
it will show u exact model.
https://swappa.com/imei
I have LE2125, & i can confirm that it's a single sim device.
though i always if there's any way to make dual sim work in this model.

Question SM-F936B (NO DS) is also dual physical sim?

HI,
I see there are different versions SM-F936B, SM-F936B/DS, SM-F936U, SM-F936U1, SM-F936N, SM-F936W
I can buy in europe SM-F936B or SM-F936B/DS, but I need 2 physical sims.
Acording to samsung global website (https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-z-fold4/specs/) there are 3 options:
One Nano SIM and one eSIM
Two Nano SIMs and one eSIM
Two Nano SIMs
So, what is the correct description for each version?
Affirm own the B and it has 2 sim slots
onours said:
Affirm own the B and it has 2 sim slots
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Now I'm more confused. I don't know the difference between SM-F936B and SM-F936B/DS...
Does your B (no ds) also support esim???
No clue m8, extension B is the only model officially sold in my region. İt has 2 physical sim slots on the same sim tray. No e sim whatsoever. Wish it had a microSD slot instead of 2nd sim but well no phone is perfect...
ron0 said:
Now I'm more confused. I don't know the difference between SM-F936B and SM-F936B/DS...
Does your B (no ds) also support esim???
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B/DS has 2 physical and eSIM as well. I confirmed that on mine

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