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Anyone here upgraded from Samsung S7 / Edge / Note 7

What's your experience so far with the Pixel XL?
I'm considering the Pixel XL but looks like there're a lot to lose in term of features (QI chargin, edge, compact body, SPay,...). I flashed mine S7e with the Unlocked U firmware so the bloatware is minimal and I'm getting >7hrs SOT. Is it worth it to switch?

Takes a little getting used to at first, I had the note 7, I will say this thing is a beast and doesn't lag like my note 7 did, also getting better battery with the same usage.

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Takes a little getting used to at first, I had the note 7, I will say this thing is a beast and doesn't lag like my note 7 did, also getting better battery with the same usage.
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The carrier's junks are bad. Since switched to the unlock firmware, my S7e feels like a different phone. No lag, run cooler, better battery life...

I came from the S7 (regular) and I've not looked back.
Love the bigger screen, the buttery smooth stock android and the battery is amazing (for my usage anyway!)

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I came from the S7 (regular) and I've not looked back.
Love the bigger screen, the buttery smooth stock android and the battery is amazing (for my usage anyway!)
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Not to mention it's possible at the moment to unlock, root, and do what you want with it. Really liking the photo sync at full resolution.

I've come from the s7e and I prefer this phone. I go through phones multiple times a year and this thing is a beast. Battery life is a lot better than my s7e and I much prefer the plain Android experience. Will hold onto this unless the mate 9 turns out to be epic.
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I upgraded from S7Edge. Its been a week now and i am loving pixel XL. Edge on S7Edge wasn't very useful to me...

just pulled the trigger today and ordered the xl, had the note 7, traded it in and was using my s6 for the time being. My s6 has turned into a giant pile, so i can not wait for december 9th when my xl ships. glad to hear some of the positive reviews

Upgraded to a Note 7 from a S7 Edge and to the Pixel XL from a Note 7... Enjoying the phone so far
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Came from a Note 7. There are definitely things I like about the pixel, but I certainly miss the Note. The s-pen, screen write, AoD, gif maker.. it just sucks to lose all that.
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Had the Note series since version 2. Had to find something to replace my 7. Never thought I would like a non Note device as much as I do this Pixel XL. Next year is going to be a tough choice between second generation Pixel or whatever Sammy calls the next Note. I do miss the AOD and Spen slightly, but Assistant, stock Android, battery life, always listening Google make up for it enough.

The main thing i miss from my Note 7 is the display ...boy nothing really seems to compare when outside .

been a samsung fan from the s1, had every phone, will no longer buy samsung due to locked bootloaders and bloated system even without carrier bloat. every single samsung lags, newer ones not as bad but still lag including the note 7 (bomb edition). the pixel just flies through every task, and being that your on xda, i would assume you like to mod your device, well in that category there is absolutely no comparason

razor237 said:
The main thing i miss from my Note 7 is the display ...boy nothing really seems to compare when outside .
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Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/kernel-elementalx-pxl-0-02-t3487072 and you can turn on HBM (high brightness mode) while outdoors, its just as bright if not brighter than my note 7.

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Use http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/development/kernel-elementalx-pxl-0-02-t3487072 and you can turn on HBM (high brightness mode) while outdoors, its just as bright if not brighter than my note 7.
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Thats exactly what ive been using , i have an app that sets it to auto just a bit flacky for me it likes to kick off to quickly. When i keep it on i will agree it matches close to the note 7, but i liked the stock adaptive brightness that got into to the high brightness smoothly .... just a little picky i know

No going back to samsung now. I love their camera, i love their crazy fast autofocus but damn the software on the XL, just spoils you. This is truly lag free and an amazingly refreshing experience. It's no nonsense, cuts to the job of getting things done and has really good battery life.

I Had s7e, and the pixel flies in comparison, or at least it feels that way. Camera on s7e seemed to load just a tad quicker, but otherwise the pixel is much better
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st3ph3nbr!tt said:
Had the Note series since version 2. Had to find something to replace my 7. Never thought I would like a non Note device as much as I do this Pixel XL. Next year is going to be a tough choice between second generation Pixel or whatever Sammy calls the next Note. I do miss the AOD and Spen slightly, but Assistant, stock Android, battery life, always listening Google make up for it enough.
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Assistant is nice but its essentially google now with games. Nevermind there are some things that GA doesnt do that Google Now does currently like tell you what song is currently playing.

pcriz said:
Assistant is nice but its essentially google now with games. Nevermind there are some things that GA doesnt do that Google Now does currently like tell you what song is currently playing.
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Yeah. I believe when they release the code for the developers to have third party access this month or next, the usefulness will change dramatically. Instead of google baking stuff in, they set up the AI to accommodate and going to let devs go wild. B4 long we will see it's true power. Also, I was more speaking of always listening assistant that I use often. I HATE Sammy disabling it and forcing S Voice. So I never even used it on Notes 5 or 7. Nice to have the google back.

st3ph3nbr!tt said:
Yeah. I believe when they release the code for the developers to have third party access this month or next, the usefulness will change dramatically. Instead of google baking stuff in, they set up the AI to accommodate and going to let devs go wild. B4 long we will see it's true power. Also, I was more speaking of always listening assistant that I use often. I HATE Sammy disabling it and forcing S Voice. So I never even used it on Notes 5 or 7. Nice to have the google back.
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What did Samsung disable? On my Note 7 and S7e I used Google Now fine and assistant in allo worked fine. They crippled the listening from always on when the screen is off to only allow when plugged in. I doubt it's pushing s voice though. I've never even opened the s voice app since the Note 4. Only reason I don't disable it is because it's tied to the voice to text framework
Correction, only reason I DIDN'T disable it, past tense

Note 10 plus vs oneplus 7 pro

Hi guys.
I have an op 7 Pro since June and I'm thinking about to switch to note 10 plus.
Does it worth the move?
Anyone who have both devices?
Before oneplus 7 pro I had s10 plus and p30 pro.
Thank you
May the power of Oneplus 7 Pro be with you

I don' know if you want to start a controversy about which device is worse or better, or anything, but then, The S pen is the fundamental reason why the note series exists, the s pen is the core of the of it, so I always answer this question by asking another, how much interest do you have on using the s pen? And, moreover, anyone thinking about a note series device should first get know about all its capabilities, in this way, you will find your answer, if for any reason you find that the spen is not that atractive for you, or consider it as just a gimmick, then a note series device most definitively is not for you, as there are some other devices that offer similar performance , to put it simple,
note series=S pen

johnnyman25 said:
Hi guys.
I have an op 7 Pro since June and I'm thinking about to switch to note 10 plus.
Does it worth the move?
Anyone who have both devices?
Before oneplus 7 pro I had s10 plus and p30 pro.
Thank you
May the power of Oneplus 7 Pro be with you
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Did you make the switch yet? I am just curious about the experience of using Note 10+ after OnePlus 7 Pro...

ram4ufriends said:
Did you make the switch yet? I am just curious about the experience of using Note 10+ after OnePlus 7 Pro...
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I'm still with 7 pro. I tried note 10 plus and no 90hz is no buy for me..
Night and day difference in response, fluidity etc
May the power of Oneplus 7 Pro be with you

I had the 7 pro. I liked that the phone was rootable, the fingerprint reader was way faster than on the note. It felt a little bit faster.
The reason i switched to the note was the pen and that it has wireless charging. Also that the auto brightness on the 7 pro was crap and annoying. To me the refresh rate wasnt that big of a deal or noticeable.
If you need the pen and wireless charging then its worth the trade. Small features make a good experience.

I had the 7 Pro. It was a great phone. I just wanted to go back to a Note. The wireless charging was one plus for the Note. It plays better with my Samsung Watch. The dual sims in the 7 Pro was a big advantage to me. The deal I got for the Note 10+ and the high resale of the 7
Pro made me switch.

Just made the switch myself. Had the pro for about 6 months, great phone, at first I noticed the difference in screen refresh rate, but a week in and I don't notice it anymore.
I much prefer the physical esthetics of the 10+ over the rounder pro. A square screen for me just feels way more natural.
I like the increase in battery life so far. It isn't huge but big enough that I get a full day now vs getting to evening time and needing to top up.
That said the charging time of the pro is much faster for me. I could get 50 percent in 20 minutes or less.
The auto brightness of the pro was still a big issue for me at times. It got real annoying.
Overall I am happy with the switch. Still have my pro, not sure if I'll sell it or keep it as an extra. It's a fantastic phone.
The only change I wish the note had was the higher refresh rate. I don't necessarily miss it, but this phone with say a 120hz refresh for me would literally be perfect.
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Smart select with spen is very underrated feature.
I like fully featured phones and enjoy my note.

ErickF said:
I had the 7 pro. I liked that the phone was rootable, the fingerprint reader was way faster than on the note. It felt a little bit faster.
The reason i switched to the note was the pen and that it has wireless charging. Also that the auto brightness on the 7 pro was crap and annoying. To me the refresh rate wasnt that big of a deal or noticeable.
If you need the pen and wireless charging then its worth the trade. Small features make a good experience.
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Agree with all said here
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I also totally agree

Happy new year all. Thx for the answers
Probably today I will switch to note 10 plus!!
May the power of Oneplus 7 Pro be with you

Two weeks in now, and I don't miss my 7 Pro at all. I was worried that the software would be my issue, but after switching the bloated carrier firmware for the unbranded version I have has zero complaints. Working like a dream for me!
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Hey guys,
I just made the switch yesterday. Had the 7 pro for 2 weeks and since I am super sensitive about the display quality and brightness I decided to get the Note 10 plus. I have been a Sammy user for a long time now but I honestly feel Samsung is still ****ty with their software. For example on OnePlus I really liked how simply you could change the icon shape, change the notification bar settings icons to the custom color you want, even apply any other themes from the play store. You must be now thinking it all can be done in Samsung too but not really to the precision of OnePlus and definitely not so convenient. The FP scanner is really slow on Samsung. And one more major thing I was disappointed with is how they have taken out the different display color settings now on OneUI 2.0. I mean there are only 2 modes now. Earlier they had Basic and a Photo mode which would bring the saturation down, but now no way to do that. And finally the 90hz. Like someone mentioned here, I really didn't think it was a big deal after a weeks usage but after getting back to Note I can feel the difference again. But nevertheless I am happy with the display on Note 10 plus and I think I am going to keep it for sometime. Also few things that I didn't like on OnePlus like the rear camera quality, the overall weight and of course the display except for 90hz were the main reason I made the switch. I can't say I am completely happy yet but hopefully I will be.

Question is the OnePlus 9pro still Worth getting

im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice

If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.

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If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro

As with most other devices, A12 roms are unlikely to be available until after the OOS 12 ROM is released (GA, not Beta).
There are lots of good A11 ROMs out there, and the phone itself (LE2125) is excellent. The stock OOS 11 is also very very good.
But hey, doesn't affect me one way or another what phone/ROM you use. I'm very happy with what I have!
Cheers

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If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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A12 OOS official isn't out yet and most devs actually prefer to use finished sources before releasing anything to public. I'm sure some are building ROM's off the beta builds for testing but not releasing them. Also, only some people seem to have issues with the battery, heat, etc. I (and others) have no such issues with our 9pros even on stock OOS. I would suggest the phone to anyone honestly.

COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...

Wait for what ? OnePlus 10 ?
OnePlus 8 pro Oxygen OS too will get worse because of google BS.
About roms look in Development section.

COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.

The answer for you will depend on your priorities ;-)
I needed a phone recently and found an open box 9 Pro on ebay within my budget. I wouldn't have bought this phone at msrp. My experience has overall been positive. The only time I've overheated the phone was transferring about 80 GB from my old phone before realizing both were on a heat soaked surface. Putting the phone where it could breathe resolved this. Even with extended gaming sessions, the phone has run cool since. Battery life more than meets my daily needs. PD support is ideal as that's what my pc uses at work, so I don't worry about carrying a charger. A 10 min top up at 45W from PD or 65W from the stock charger is a game changer. Going from 20-90% in ~12 mins on the included charger while making coffee & breakfast is great!
Note on battery life: I tend to power off my device for a few mins a couple times each month for consistency. Especially after the primary Google Assistant app updates (this one).
I'm a photography enthusiast and have been generally happy with the 9 Pro IQ. If you do end up getting this phone or the OP9, take some time to review the different options (like Photo, Pro, Portrait) and settings - they are extensive and can be fine tuned for your use case. Be sure to take some test shots to dial this in.
The biggest shortcoming is the selfie cam, which has low dynamic range, easily washing out. I installed gcam MGC by BSG (currently v8.1.101) and it takes much better selfie shots. For the rear facing sensors, the stock camera app vs. gcam HDR+ generally show parity.
My partner has a Pixel 5 so using her phone for selfies is also an option. I prefer the FOV on the OP tho.
The screen is gorgeous! I tried 60 hz vs 120 hz with lpto and noted little effect on battery life, so have remained on the latter. I've found FHD+ meets my needs as the screen size shows little benefit bumping up to QHD+. I appreciate the stock Screen Calibration options and find Advanced > AMOLED Wide Gamut gives the color palette I prefer.
Two things requiring workarounds for my use:
a) My previous phone had a notification light, which I used more than I realized. Rather than turn the screen on periodically, I enabled the Always on Display during my waking hours, problem solved.
b) Historically I've traveled internationally for work, so having dual sims has been a must. It looks like there is work from XDA devs underway to enable this if OP doesn't themselves. Otherwise my partner has an old mobile hotspot from her job I'll commandeer when/if work travel resumes.
Reviews that helped me make an informed decision:
o XDA Devs : of course!
o Notebookcheck
https://www.notebookcheck.net/OnePl...end-phone-charges-twice-as-fast.530399.0.html
o GSM Arena review and comparison to other phones
https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_9_pro-10806.php
o Photography Blog
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/oneplus_9_pro_review
o Danny Winget Youtube firmware comparison
Hope this helps!

In a lot of ways, the OnePlus 9 Pro is a great phone, with a super-smooth screen, the fastest wired and wireless charging, pleasant software, with a solid long-term update commitment. I even enjoy the camera.

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Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.
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Horrible advice

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Horrible advice
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In hindsight; you may be right.
But, still, thermal issues are for sure my biggest gripe.
Besides, yeah, I do feel it is a good device, but getting it over Oneplus 9 or 9RT would depend on the user's preferences.

If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.

cultofluna said:
DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...
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Is it available for sale?

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If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.
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It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose

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It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose
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Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.

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Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.
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Nobody really knows yet. Since Pixel 6 series is using a new in-house cpu (Tensor) and there are no reviews out yet (product ships on 10/28) so no one really knows what it's going to really perform like. I also would be curious if/how easy it will be to root or unlock bootloader since it's a totally different CPU architecture.

I came from a OnePlus 3T. Overall I think this phone is great, the camera and functionality is slick. I also appreciate that having the phone on max performance levels, screen brightness and sync enabled will impact the battery.
I like that it has an active community here, and on the OnePlus forums. I've logged a few bugs and evidenced how to recreate them. Am I unhappy about the companies communication style, not being open about throttling etc, yes. However I understand that people are human and make mistakes. It's still a young device released 6 months ago. Let's see where we are in a year from now

COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Funny enough, I was thinking recently if I should get the 8 pro as well. Specifically for rooting/custom ROMs. I'm currently using a OP6T (rooted with CrDroid ROM), I can literally get the 8 Pro for free with a screen protector + case and some cash left from my £500 Amazon giftcard. But I just don't know if I should get a 8 pro or not and I can't justify the purchase tbh

COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Be careful. I am not able to send text msgs randomly I am on Sprint/T-Mobile and nothing works. It's why I'm trying to get the 9 pro.

Question The Pixel 6 Pro absolutely lives up to the hype

My 6 Pro got delivered this morning and I've spent the entire day setting up and playing with it - this phone is absolutely incredible! (Also the nerd in me is happy to see people shortening the 6 Pro to 6P, I loved my Nexus 6P)
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Can't comment on battery life yet but wow, the display, the cameras and the speakers are all excellent! Haptics are nice and tight, the entire phone feels snappy and gorgeous! Also shout out to the natural depth effect from the 4x telephoto camera, that's a lot of fun to play with.
As someone who's owner multiple Pixel phones in the past, I think every reviewer is on the mark when they say this is the first no compromise Pixel - Google have outdone themselves I fully believe it deserves the hype it's getting!
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Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box

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Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box
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and that search bar so annoying

alleshi said:
and that search bar so annoying
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Yep and no option to change or move it

Shipoftheline said:
Yep and no option to change or move it
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.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.

Burt Squirtz said:
.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
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Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on

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Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on
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By your logic, you may as well not download ANY apps on the playstore and just strictly use apps that are stock on the phone. Pfft.
Stock launchers, since the dawn of Android, have been the most atrocious launchers there are. I've been using Nova ever since Android Donut and have never looked back since.

It was one of the worst phones I've owned, sadly. Sold it in the end after 3 months.

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.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
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Totally agree. Nova fits my needs very well and gives me everything I want in a launcher, with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
Like I said, not a big deal and I'll take it like that. Just a little bummed out because it almost feels like I have a low/mid range phone that isn't fully ready to tackle that initial tap on the home screen because the processor is too slow or the RAM is too low. I really wish it picked up that first immediate tap when going back to the home screen after exiting an app, only thing I miss from the stock launcher. Ok, my rant is done.

I had a high degree of interest in the Pixel 6 pro but in the end a few things steered me in another direction:
- Canada wasn't deemed worthy of the 512 GB model.
- Placed an order for the 256 GB model Jan 01, was still waiting for it Feb 09.
- Spent my time learning as much as I could about the device while waiting for it only to come to the conclusion that
there are way to many unresolved issues with conectivity and audio DAC incomatability etc.
Hopefully they get it right with the Pixel 7 Pro and decide that all regions deserve the same storage options.

The only issue I've run into, is the signal level on the phone. In areas where I would have "full bars", on my old A71 samsung, I have 1/2 bars.

Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.

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....... with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
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It's a well known issue with 3rd-party launchers and A12. I have the same experience with Smart Launcher and still can't find a solution.

I don't fully agree honestly.
There really hasn't been a phone released in the past 3 or 4 years that has lived up to any real hype.
Maybe the Foldables but those are not on my radar currently.
Phone tech is pretty stagnant and the biggest issue we have right now are companies releasing BETA products and BETA software to consumers.
Consumers keep buying into the hype and companies will keep releasing BETA products.
I have the P6P, P6 and a S21 Ultra.
My S21 Ultra has more advanced Google features than any of my Pixel 6's do.

MArtyChubbs said:
Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.
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13 radio on 12L? worth it?

Edited majority as no longer needed.
Personally I have found the Pixel 6 Pro to be a very good phone. I have been fortunate that I have not had the issues that some have had and Fingerprint reader on the whole reads first time, no random reboots, battery that lasts all day even when only charged to 80% (and still leaves me with 30% before re-charging).
I have the Mobile Network Standby reading a stupid number (40%+ recently) but this was 6% back when I got it and the actually battery usage has not changed, so don't feel it is an issue of any consequence.
Signal wise, not had any issues, its about the same as my OnePlus 6T was but this gets 5G when in a signal area which that phone couldn't.
There have been some things I haven't liked in Android 12 and the Pixel Launcher, so I have kept the Apex Launcher I used on the OnePlus and have kept the backgrounds to a minimum to not trigger the colour theming (do prefer greyscale anyway).
On the phone pretty pleased with it and don't have anything that is annoying me.
Will soon swap to a eSim so that I can add my work Sim which from what I am hearing may cause an issue, but will see what happens, can always switch back if needs be until fixed.
One of the reasons for using Android is the freedom to customise things like the launcher and the experience. If I was going to stick solely to what the manufacturer was supplying then I would have an iPhone (Not )

can we just be civil please. We all bought a Pixel 6 because we are the 1%'ers (kind of like a biker club). There are lots of great things about the Pixel Launcher (fluidity, simplicity etc) but there are also great things about Nova Launcher (customization etc). So it's about personal preference - just like choosing a Pixel over a Samsung.
Many times when reading comments on a forum, its hard to get your point across (or the real meaning behind your comment gets hidden). So I just wanted everyone to think about that for a second.

Sui77 said:
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Works for me, best reception and speed I've had yet

I love my p6pro with root I'm on 12L and have experienced bugs though, like occasional freezing and unresponsive screen. The Bluetooth cuts out on my headphones sometimes, but it's still the best phone I've owned. No complaints at all here with the p6pro

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I'm running the latest 12l radio on stock February update. Also the best bandwidth I've had yet.

Question I really like my Pixel 6 Pro

I've had my 6 Pro since December. I installed the December patch before it got pulled. I'm coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro that I loved.
The camera is amazing. The screen is great. I really like the call screening feature (which only arrived for me after the January update).
The finger print sensor is milliseconds slower than my OnePlus 7 Pro and is about the same accuracy.
My screen hasn't randomly cracked yet.
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
I thought that the cutout would bother me more than it does. I notice it once in a while and I cringe when I see it compared to my OnePlus 7 Pro but even OnePlus doesn't offer a display without obstruction anymore so not many choices there.
Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
That being said over all I really really like the Pixel 6 Pro. There's some things I guess I don't like about Android and trends in the mobile phone manufacturing industry that I don't love but that's different than the phone.
I think most people will love their Pixel 6 and won't have any issues at all.

I love my P6 pro as well. Although I really hate to say it, the fingerprint on the back of the device like my old P3xl would make this phone flawless for me. But I still love my phone.

love the device so much i took a big financial hit to get rid of my Z fold 3 for one - samsung wont be seeing me for a long time

wulfgarfang said:
I love my P6 pro as well. Although I really hate to say it, the fingerprint on the back of the device like my old P3xl would make this phone flawless for me. But I still love my phone.
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Same. The Pixel 3xl was the best phone ever, and the fingerprint sensor was the best thing about it! They should go back to that model, using through the screen is clunky and causes fingerprints.

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Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
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I use Android Auto every day and I haven't had a problem. Every few years I sometimes run into consistent problems with Android Auto and replacing the cable I'm using (with another high-quality USB 3.x cable) always fixes the issue.
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Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
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I avoided gestures until I got the Pixel 6 Pro. I finally resigned myself and mostly haven't minded it. If you want to continue avoiding using the navbar but want a workaround for swiping up from the bottom, Nova Launcher might give you close to what you want.
If you want to use the navigation bar then Nova Launcher should be able to be configured to completely do what you want with the swipe up from the bottom gesture.
It's fair if you don't want to use a custom launcher, though. I've sworn by Nova for the last 10+ years IIRC. Every time I give something else a try, I go back, and I don't bother trying anything else anymore.

Having used Samsung and OnePlus devices, I love the swipe up to go back feature. It results in far fewer accidental back presses than the default Google ones. For me, it was worth rooting and installing Fluid Navigation Gestures to get that feature on the Pixel 6 Pro.

Yeah, despite it's flaws, the p6pro is a great phone imo.
I got the 256gb model and bought a 30w pixel charger for it. Rooted it the 1st day I got it.
But the Bluetooth cuts out upon connection with my Sony bt headphones.
I'm on a13 DP2 and it's brilliant. Can't use viper tho
I love my p6pro too.

The only real complaint I have is battery life and photo quality. My pixel 2XL had better quality photos that weren't overly processed and were sharper.
Battery life is meh; I feel it drains too quickly and gets overly hot from just web browsing and texting.
I'd like to see more customization within the OS, since Samsung has an array of customization options Google refuses to provide. I don't mind using custom roms for that purpose, but they can be buggy and often break features from stock.

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I've had my 6 Pro since December. I installed the December patch before it got pulled. I'm coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro that I loved.
The camera is amazing. The screen is great. I really like the call screening feature (which only arrived for me after the January update).
The finger print sensor is milliseconds slower than my OnePlus 7 Pro and is about the same accuracy.
My screen hasn't randomly cracked yet.
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
I thought that the cutout would bother me more than it does. I notice it once in a while and I cringe when I see it compared to my OnePlus 7 Pro but even OnePlus doesn't offer a display without obstruction anymore so not many choices there.
Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
That being said over all I really really like the Pixel 6 Pro. There's some things I guess I don't like about Android and trends in the mobile phone manufacturing industry that I don't love but that's different than the phone.
I think most people will love their Pixel 6 and won't have any issues at all.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm still using my OnePlus 7 Pro. Yesterday, I used it for a Zoom meeting and the selfie camera is way better than the crappy one on my computer.
The Pixel 6 looks great. I'd get the Samsung 22,because I've hade Notes in the past, but their privacy policies are really creepy.