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Swapping "Back" & "Recent Apps" buttons???

So I am a LONG time Samsung user. I've had every generation of the Note's and recently moved to the Pixel XL after returning my Note 7.
The phone is great and silky smooth so far but my biggest gripe and I know this is something I could become accustomed too if I had too but I was hoping that maybe there was an easy way to swap the placement of the two buttons.
On Samsung's the back button is on the right and the recent apps button on the left. Almost all other Androids are swapped (The Pixel is no different obviously) but trying to re-wire 6 plus years of back button pressing is going to be a lot of work and I have my fingers crossed there is a way to to do this easily within settings somewhere that I have missed.
The buttons themselves are merely icons on the screen, so swapping their positions doesn't seem unreasonable, I know you can do it with a rooted phone but I obviously don't care to void my day old phone's warranty quite yet. I'd understand if they were illuminated buttons on the bezel like the Samsung phones, but these are icons.
Anyone figure this out?
Thanks in advance!

Have you tried the app All in One Gestures? I don't have my Pixel XL yet, but I use the All in One Gestures app to swap the back and recent buttons on my Galaxy S6.

First off, unlocking the bootloader and modifying does not void the warranty on Google phones. There are no software methods included to swap the navbar icons. Only way remaining is to unlock the bootloader and look for a way to mod it.
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crawfordmd said:
Have you tried the app All in One Gestures? I don't have my Pixel XL yet, but I use the All in One Gestures app to swap the back and recent buttons on my Galaxy S6.
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Custom ROM only the?
Wasn't there a mod that went around with the Nexus 6P that added more options to UI Tuner for NavBar? Could this be done?

I came from Samsung also. If you decide to unlock your bootloader and flash TWRP you can use this. Works great is what I used before I went to pure Nexus. And u can flash back to stock it will stick with it. Until u do factory reset. Comes with aroma installer so you can decide what you want.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/themes/mod-testers-t3532515[/url]
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Just change them in system ui tuner.
If you don't have it. Pull down statusbar. Press the settings icon and hold it for about 5 secs.
Now you should have it in settings.
Go to navbar
There you can just pull the symbols by holding the = and pull them up or down.

mikaole said:
Just change them in system ui tuner.
If you don't have it. Pull down statusbar. Press the settings icon and hold it for about 5 secs.
Now you should have it in settings.
Go to navbar
There you can just pull the symbols by holding the = and pull them up or down.
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Is this working for anyone ?
I mean, i get the system ui tuner, but theres no option for the nav bar.
I remember on the N6P we had to flash a zip first to make it visable.

Myrrhman said:
Is this working for anyone ?
I mean, i get the system ui tuner, but theres no option for the nav bar.
I remember on the N6P we had to flash a zip first to make it visable.
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It won't work. That option is not enabled by default. You need to decompile system ui apk and add a line of code to tuner_prefs.xml for nav bar to show up in system ui tuner.

toknitup420 said:
It won't work. That option is not enabled by default. You need to decompile system ui apk and add a line of code to tuner_prefs.xml for nav bar to show up in system ui tuner.
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AH, yes. Thanks. You're right, now I remember.
So basically no root , no swapping

Myrrhman said:
AH, yes. Thanks. You're right, now I remember.
So basically no root , no swapping
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You can do it in TWRP using the file manager in there. No root needed. Just temp boot TWRP swap the apks and reboot.

toknitup420 said:
You can do it in TWRP using the file manager in there. No root needed. Just temp boot TWRP swap the apks and reboot.
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You're right again ! Man, I'm so out of it. Since owning the pixel I haven't flashed / rooted / modified anything :laugh:
Thanks so much for your help !

Yes, you can do it with root or booting twrp. One day Google will allow you to change this within the stock firmware.

MonarchX said:
Could someone explain to me how to perform the above task? I am already rooted...
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Did you push and hold the cog wheel when you pull down the notification screen? You have to do it for a long 5 seconds, then the option for system UI should appear when you go into settings.

MonarchX said:
Yes, I did all that, but SystemUI does not have any NavBar settings, at least not in stock 7.1.1 ROM, even when rooted.
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I would assume that since you are rooted, that you have TWRP installed or at least know how to do it?
I'd flash WETA Mod 3.1. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/themes/mod-weta-ui-mods-t3491181
Gives you a bunch of customization options including adding NavBar tuner back in the System UI. Easier I think than going in and messing with system files. At least IMO.

Wait I can install TWR P without having unlock Bootloader?
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AgentJz said:
Wait I can install TWR P without having unlock Bootloader?
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No.

Also works with O
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-...icons-or-re-arrange-the-buttons-without-root/

toknitup420 said:
It won't work. That option is not enabled by default. You need to decompile system ui apk and add a line of code to tuner_prefs.xml for nav bar to show up in system ui tuner.
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When you say "decompile the apk, to add aline", can you please elaborate? I have had a few notes from Samsung and can't get used to the back button on the left for my Lenovo TB-X103F tablet.
I have held the cog for 5 seconds to reveal the "system ui tuner" category. However, nav bar isn't shown.
Something like was is shown here? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2184207
Sent from my Lenovo TB-X103F using Tapatalk

I use "Custom Navigation Bar" app and toggle the switch with one tap. https://play.google.com/store/apps/....systemuituner&rdid=xyz.paphonb.systemuituner

Getting rid of round icons

I can't stand the round icons that the Pixel forces to appear, often times they're just the app icon in an ugly white circle, especially for third party apps. Is there any way at all to disable them?

CarteNoir said:
I can't stand the round icons that the Pixel forces to appear, often times they're just the app icon in an ugly white circle, especially for third party apps. Is there any way at all to disable them?
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I have a framework mod that gives you the old square icons. I'll upload it tonight after work. What security update are you on?

toknitup420 said:
I have a framework mod that gives you the old square icons. I'll upload it tonight after work. What security update are you on?
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July! Thanks

Here it is I had one made up for my mod pack. There's a couple of other tweaks in it. Faster led blink rate and no screen on for plug and unplug of usb cable. Clear launcher data after swapping out apk. You'll need root. Use a root file browser. Then reboot. Then clear launcher data and reboot once more. After that you'll be good to go.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4VEhClrJEWpRWlxVUs5TjZDRFE/view?usp=drivesdk

If you try out the Android O beta 4 from Google that just released, it has 4 icon mod display options baked in....
https://www.google.com/android/beta

Try lawnchair launcher. Is the same pixel launcher with added feature. One of them is using ur own icon pack. Also found that using latest beta (which support weather). Is actually SMOOTHER than stock pixel launcher. The developer did some tweaking to eliminate any lag or stutter on scrolling or swiping to google now page.

I've never encountered any lag or stutter on the Pixel while running stock. The phone hardware and kernel have been optimized for performance. Are you running any mods on your phone?

toknitup420 said:
Here it is I had one made up for my mod pack. There's a couple of other tweaks in it. Faster led blink rate and no screen on for plug and unplug of usb cable. Clear launcher data after swapping out apk. You'll need root. Use a root file browser. Then reboot. Then clear launcher data and reboot once more. After that you'll be good to go.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4VEhClrJEWpRWlxVUs5TjZDRFE/view?usp=drivesdk
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Thanks for the option! I actually ended up decompiling the framework-res.apk myself and changing the boolean. I think it's good to learn how myself just so I don't have to wait for someone to make a patch every time an OTA gets pushed, but thank you!
SirSparkles said:
If you try out the Android O beta 4 from Google that just released, it has 4 icon mod display options baked in....
https://www.google.com/android/beta
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Yeah, I just didn't wanna go with O due to even worse support for Magisk. Just wanna stay on a stable build for now.
eduardmc said:
Try lawnchair launcher. Is the same pixel launcher with added feature. One of them is using ur own icon pack. Also found that using latest beta (which support weather). Is actually SMOOTHER than stock pixel launcher. The developer did some tweaking to eliminate any lag or stutter on scrolling or swiping to google now page.
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Thanks for the tip. I use Nova, the problem doesn't necessarily lie with whether or not the launcher supports icon packs. It's more that most icon packs lack support for every single app I have installed, and in that case I want to fall back on the app's default icon. However even if you switch launchers, on the Pixel those icons still get turned into these ugly white circles which is dumb. I have no idea who in Google decided that it was A+ idea to force that on people without leaving in an option to disable it easily. I mean for example I use the Acorn icon pack cause it's pretty af, but it stopped updating about a year ago and doesn't cover many newer apps. I don't wanna stack icon packs when the default icon looks just fine when not in this weird rounded mode that's forced on my phone. It's bizarre that we have to decompile and manually modify a value of a system app just to get rid of a "feature" that's not even slightly polished but is forced on everyone who owns this phone.

eduardmc said:
Try lawnchair launcher. Is the same pixel launcher with added feature. One of them is using ur own icon pack. Also found that using latest beta (which support weather). Is actually SMOOTHER than stock pixel launcher. The developer did some tweaking to eliminate any lag or stutter on scrolling or swiping to google now page.
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+1 million on this. Lawnchair is like pixel launcher on steroids. My favorite launcher ever. Smooth as hell. Google now integration. All the extra options. You can't go wrong.

eduardmc said:
Try lawnchair launcher. Is the same pixel launcher with added feature. One of them is using ur own icon pack. Also found that using latest beta (which support weather). Is actually SMOOTHER than stock pixel launcher. The developer did some tweaking to eliminate any lag or stutter on scrolling or swiping to google now page.
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nice! thanks for the suggestion.

CarteNoir said:
Thanks for the option! I actually ended up decompiling the framework-res.apk myself and changing the boolean. I think it's good to learn how myself just so I don't have to wait for someone to make a patch every time an OTA gets pushed, but thank you!
Yeah, I just didn't wanna go with O due to even worse support for Magisk. Just wanna stay on a stable build for now.
Thanks for the tip. I use Nova, the problem doesn't necessarily lie with whether or not the launcher supports icon packs. It's more that most icon packs lack support for every single app I have installed, and in that case I want to fall back on the app's default icon. However even if you switch launchers, on the Pixel those icons still get turned into these ugly white circles which is dumb. I have no idea who in Google decided that it was A+ idea to force that on people without leaving in an option to disable it easily. I mean for example I use the Acorn icon pack cause it's pretty af, but it stopped updating about a year ago and doesn't cover many newer apps. I don't wanna stack icon packs when the default icon looks just fine when not in this weird rounded mode that's forced on my phone. It's bizarre that we have to decompile and manually modify a value of a system app just to get rid of a "feature" that's not even slightly polished but is forced on everyone who owns this phone.
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It seems like Google might have come to the conclusion that forcing round icons on people isn't necessarily a great idea since they added the ability to switch to square icons in Android O.

jhs39 said:
It seems like Google might have come to the conclusion that forcing round icons on people isn't necessarily a great idea since they added the ability to switch to square icons in Android O.
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Where's that option located?

toknitup420 said:
Where's that option located?
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long press on a blank area of your launcher, hit settings, and it's there under change icon shape.

fatapia said:
long press on a blank area of your launcher, hit settings, and it's there under change icon shape.
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Good stuff. I immediately installed lawn chair so I never even looked. Good looks pointing that out.

Nova launcher

With the Pixel 3 and 3 XL forcing gesture navigation will regular button be available when using an alternate launcher like Nova?

airmaxx23 said:
With the Pixel 3 and 3 XL forcing gesture navigation will regular button be available when using an alternate launcher like Nova?
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I saw a video yesterday on YouTube that showed the option to revert back to the old button layout instead of using gestures. It was on a beta version of Pie but it’s very possible that they kept it in the final release.
Here’s a link to instructions to enable gestures if your on a phone such as the pixel 2 that received the Pie update. I assume turning the gestures off would work the same way.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-use-android-9-pie-gesture-navigation/amp/

I believe there are posts about gestures being the only form of navigation

I'm on Pie with my Pixel XL and can turn the gesture navigation on or off. I believe the Pixel 3 and 3 XL are forced to use gesture navigation and it can't be turned off.

airmaxx23 said:
I'm on Pie with my Pixel XL and can turn the gesture navigation on or off. I believe the Pixel 3 and 3 XL are forced to use gesture navigation and it can't be turned off.
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Well that kind of sucks.

DarkPhoenix said:
Well that kind of sucks.
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If you don't like it/already use it
when it came in, I figured it was going to be the new way, so I used and learnt it. Now I can't go back -
Had a RMA on a Pixel OG XL and got a sony Z3 as a temp phone and it killed me

y2grae said:
If you don't like it/already use it
when it came in, I figured it was going to be the new way, so I used and learnt it. Now I can't go back -
Had a RMA on a Pixel OG XL and got a sony Z3 as a temp phone and it killed me
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All I’ve ever used is the old style, I’m sure I’ll get used to it though.

DarkPhoenix said:
All I’ve ever used is the old style, I’m sure I’ll get used to it though.
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I was the same initially, but I've been using the gesture nav on pie for a few months now and I can't go back. It's way better. Even used to the asymmetrical back button. Really wish I could decrease the height of it though.

Chronzy said:
I was the same initially, but I've been using the gesture nav on pie for a few months now and I can't go back. It's way better. Even used to the asymmetrical back button. Really wish I could decrease the height of it though.
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I don't mind using the nav bar but I just hope Nova Launcher or a custom ROM allows the switching of the back button to the right side of the home button.

just downloaded Hyperion Launcher on my 2xl.
It's interesting as it has features from several different launchers, including nova.
It's brand new and is a little buggy (very little so far) but I think I'm going to play with it for a day or 2.
I didn't purchase the pro version, which is expensive (sort of) at 3.99, but I might if it continues to interest me tomorrow.

As a previous Nova Launcher user for for a few years now, do you guys recommend I get used to Google's default launcher before using Nova again?

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As a previous Nova Launcher user for for a few years now, do you guys recommend I get used to Google's default launcher before using Nova again?
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I personally don't like the lack of options with the stock launcher. With my OG Pixel XL I recently turned on the gesture navigation and have been getting used to it while still using Nova Launcher.

bsg411 said:
I don't mind using the nav bar but I just hope Nova Launcher or a custom ROM allows the switching of the back button to the right side of the home button.
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If I understand you correctly, this is currently possible without root using custom navigation bar. Latest Pie, assume it should work on 3 XL as well, or at the least should be updated to do so shortly, the dev is excellent with updates.

uicnren said:
If I understand you correctly, this is currently possible without root using custom navigation bar. Latest Pie, assume it should work on 3 XL as well, or at the least should be updated to do so shortly, the dev is excellent with updates.
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Is custom navigation bar an app or a setting within nova launcher?

bsg411 said:
Is custom navigation bar an app or a setting within nova launcher?
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It's an app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.paphonb.systemuituner&hl=en_US

I kinda prefer the OnePlus gestures because you don't have to give up any space at all for navigation. It's ironic to me that all this effort is being expended on getting a little notched screen real estate when doing away with the nav bar area gives you the same amount of usable screen real estate without a notch covering a large chunk of what you just gained. I mean if you're going to have the horrid notch in the name of more screen real estate why not also grab the wasted space at the bottom of the screen while you're at it?

krabman said:
I kinda prefer the OnePlus gestures because you don't have to give up any space at all for navigation. It's ironic to me that all this effort is being expended on getting a little notched screen real estate when doing away with the nav bar area gives you the same amount of usable screen real estate without a notch covering a large chunk of what you just gained. I mean if you're going to have the horrid notch in the name of more screen real estate why not also grab the wasted space at the bottom of the screen while you're at it?
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At a guess I'd say there are some design restraints that affect all Android devices. THAT may be one of them. Specifically, constraints to maintain interoperability between independent developers apps running on Android. Start messing with the navigation menu too much, there's no telling what you are going to break.
Of course, it being Google, maybe they have some idea of what they are going to break and chose not to maketh with the breaking...

Possible, I don't know enough about it to poke at the nuts and bolts of it. With OnePlus you can have it either way at that tap of a button, maybe it was a toggle? My understanding was you could do this with Pie also and just go back to the nav bar if you wanted up until this device. With OnePlus it didn't in any way affect the phone or apps that I have except the launcher. I've got the pay Action and Nova and both of those have gestures you can use which can conflict with the nav gestures. Action in fact put out a beta update that made it so a swipe up from the bottom opened the app drawer and that couldn't be changed which completely broke the OnePlus gestures which also swipe up from the bottom. Cred to those guys, I sent an email about it and it was fixed within a few days so that you could turn that off. Not sure how many sent such an email but it was nice to see the quick response regardless. I guess where I'm going is I can see how it could conflict with something, but it shouldn't be too much from what I've seen; nothing a developer worth his salt wouldn't sort out quickly.

Using stock launcher currently, as swipe right isn't working for me using Nova. Hoping this will be fixed soon.

tj_f said:
Using stock launcher currently, as swipe right isn't working for me using Nova. Hoping this will be fixed soon.
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Swipe right works for me on Nova Prime. Are you doing it along the nav bar?

Android 10 navbar issues.

Hey guys.
So I got my OTA android 10 update today.
But after updating I have gotten a whole lot of issues with the navigation bar.
1. The new android 10 gestures does not work on 3rd party launchers, this was however expected.
2. The main problem is that I now have a space where the navbar is on the bottom of my phone, this is Hella annoying and frankly looks like crap.
For example, I am unable to strech widget all the way down, I also can not place icons where I want.
There is also an ugly overlay on the bottom when using Chrome or the playstore for example.
Is this how it is on Samsungs Android 10? Or have I just messed a setting?
I hade the One plus 7 pro running android 10 before this phone, on my one+ I had none of these issues.
(please spare me the comments about how you shouldn't update right away)

Sorry my question or answer dont help the white bar is were some apps say go full screen then closes it down have you thought about doing a back and rest on it like factory reset

webdiddy said:
Hey guys.
So I got my OTA android 10 update today.
But after updating I have gotten a whole lot of issues with the navigation bar.
1. The new android 10 gestures does not work on 3rd party launchers, this was however expected.
2. The main problem is that I now have a space where the navbar is on the bottom of my phone, this is Hella annoying and frankly looks like crap.
For example, I am unable to strech widget all the way down, I also can not place icons where I want.
There is also an ugly overlay on the bottom when using Chrome or the playstore for example.
Is this how it is on Samsungs Android 10? Or have I just messed a setting?
I hade the One plus 7 pro running android 10 before this phone, on my one+ I had none of these issues.
(please spare me the comments about how you shouldn't update right away)
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Depends on the launcher you're using I suppose.
Googles Android Gestures in official Samsung Android 10 don't work well, but I'm having no troubles using the Samsung implementation of Android Gestures with Nova Launcher.

william84 said:
Depends on the launcher you're using I suppose.
Googles Android Gestures in official Samsung Android 10 don't work well, but I'm having no troubles using the Samsung implementation of Android Gestures with Nova Launcher.
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I am using Nova launcher an the navbar section is constant, even though I'm using the old gesture based navigation from android 9.

I have same problem with bar not disappearing from bottom. It is so annoying . Maybe factory reset will help but I don't want to risk, setup of whole system takes me a lot of time. Anybody knows solution for this?

I did a factory reset and now all is working well.

webdiddy said:
I did a factory reset and now all is working well.
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great news! I will do it also.

Mine did the same, but i just applied the stock theme and did the dark mode, now it look normal. no need to reset.

webdiddy said:
I did a factory reset and now all is working well.
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Speaking only from experience with my S10+ and the official Android 10 release, I too had to do a factory reset to clear up a bunch of glitches. We will see what happens once my Note 10+ gets the new version.

Matsunami said:
great news! I will do it also.
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Oh, come on
No needs to factory reset, just go to Settings> Display> Navigation Bar>
and the turn off "Show button to hide keyboard"

msi.1362 said:
Oh, come on
No needs to factory reset, just go to Settings> Display> Navigation Bar>
and the turn off "Show button to hide keyboard"
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I've tried it before.. I'm not dumb It didn't work.

msi.1362 said:
Oh, come on
No needs to factory reset, just go to Settings> Display> Navigation Bar>
and the turn off "Show button to hide keyboard"
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Its always a good idea to perform a factory reset after a major android version update.

Themes were causing this issue for me.
I set navbar ht to 5 with hex installer and it fixed the gap below the keyboard.

Luckily it worked for me out of the box. I'm not a fan as some things become more tedious with this change, but at least I didn't have any issues. Definitely prefer avoiding a reset where possible. Even just using Nova, KLWP, and themes, a reset plus having to set everything back up is annoying af.

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I am using Nova launcher an the navbar section is constant, even though I'm using the old gesture based navigation from android 9.
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How are you using the old gesture based navigation from Android 9 with Nova launcher? I mean do you use Navigation buttons in Samsung settings can can still use gestures? Please show me how. My swipe gestures to switch between open apps don't work anymore in Android 10 when the navigation buttons are enabled.

Nova Launcher

As much as I want to use Nova Launcher, it's just not as smooth and quick as the stock Pixel Launcher. Anyone else feel this way? At the same time, I have a love/hate relationship with Pixel Launcher because I love having the icon unread notification numbers on Nova as well as being able to change the home screen grid size. In the end, though, Nova is just not as quick loading apps and the app drawer.

I agree Google isn't making it easy to use another launcher on Pixel phones. It's a shame.
Nova is definitely not as smooth as the Pixel launcher. But Nova has so many advantages for me that I'll take its options over overall smoothness any day.

Ghisy said:
I agree Google isn't making it easy to use another launcher on Pixel phones. It's a shame.
Nova is definitely not as smooth as the Pixel launcher. But Nova has so many advantages for me that I'll take its options over overall smoothness any day.
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Same here.

U guys can use one plus launcher, one UI launcher and a custom pixel launcher as well with More customizations. There's a thread on telegram.

Action Launcher does pretty much everything Nova can do and it does everything stock pixel launcher does too. Including copying from recents screen and using Android 10 gestures.
Launchers can add the ability to work correctly on Pixels, Google opened up the ability for 3rd party launchers in December, Action Launcher is only one I know of that can do it without using quickstep or magisk.

smartymcfly said:
Action Launcher does pretty much everything Nova can do and it does everything stock pixel launcher does too. Including copying from recents screen and using Android 10 gestures.
Launchers can add the ability to work correctly on Pixels, Google opened up the ability for 3rd party launchers in December, Action Launcher is only one I know of that can do it without using quickstep.
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The ones I'm referring to don't require quickstep either, just flash in magisk

shooterlgk said:
The ones I'm referring to don't require quickstep either, just flash in magisk
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Action Launcher doesn't require magisk.

smartymcfly said:
Action Launcher doesn't require magisk.
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Fully aware, just providing more options

I keep seeing these threads where at least one person claims Nova doesn't work correctly. Last year, I would have agreed... but I've been using Nova for months and I have forgotten about any drawbacks if there are any. The only differences I remember are a couple animations and the recents menu doesn't have suggestion icons? (which never suggested apps I wanted to use, so I don't miss it)
What's the smoothness that people are complaining about? The animations run as fast as my finger pushes things around... Is it just the quality and type of animations? If so, I want functionality far over such things. Having to use substratum/magisk to customize the Pixel Launcher was way worse than recreating my layout in Nova. If only things like TeslaUnread were still officially supported... but Google likes killing off useful things.
Feel free to help me understand what I'm missing.

jljtgr said:
I keep seeing these threads where at least one person claims Nova doesn't work correctly. Last year, I would have agreed... but I've been using Nova for months and I have forgotten about any drawbacks if there are any. The only differences I remember are a couple animations and the recents menu doesn't have suggestion icons? (which never suggested apps I wanted to use, so I don't miss it)
What's the smoothness that people are complaining about? The animations run as fast as my finger pushes things around... Is it just the quality and type of animations? If so, I want functionality far over such things. Having to use substratum/magisk to customize the Pixel Launcher was way worse than recreating my layout in Nova. If only things like TeslaUnread were still officially supported... but Google likes killing off useful things.
Feel free to help me understand what I'm missing.
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Nova says in the settings that Google has not made it possible for Nova to use Android 10 gestures correctly. Google has made it work, but Nova hasn't been updated to allow it yet.

smartymcfly said:
Nova says in the settings that Google has not made it possible for Nova to use Android 10 gestures correctly. Google has made it work, but Nova hasn't been updated to allow it yet.
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In my opinion, the warning is wrong. Back when I first got my phone, like half of the gestures didn't quite work. Now everything works for me.
At Nova's homescreen...
Swipe from side: Isn't triggered because you can't go back from home. Just flips pages.
Swipe from bottom: Opens app search. I'm not sure if the gesture is doing this or Nova is.
Swipe from bottom & hold: Opens recents.
Swipe from corner: Shows assistant overlay.
Everything basic works. I don't have palm swipe screenshots enabled.

My issue with Nova is the delay going back to the home screen. I can't immediately open another app. I always have to wait an extra second or click on app twice before it opens. I want the full pixel experience and it seems that Nova doesn't always deliver on it. I do occasionally go back to it until I get annoyed with my first statement.
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Honestly, I've never noticed this. I guess I go home before I know what I want to click on and so I'm never quick enough to see it.
The way it's acting, it reminds me of a paused activity that needs to refresh when the app gets restored. I tried to disable battery optimization for Nova, but it didn't help. I'm not sure how to solve that.
I tried the same test on my old phone and pressing the home button actually does nothing for a split second, then Nova shows and responds immediately. But when you gesture, you want it to happen immediately... not a split second later. So in that way, Android 10 and Nova do the sensible thing and shows the paused activity.

shooterlgk said:
U guys can use one plus launcher, one UI launcher and a custom pixel launcher as well with More customizations. There's a thread on telegram.
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Can you provide a link please?

I was using Nova Launche a lot of time ago! let's going to check how does it works now!

I have no reason to use any other launcher than pixel launcher. It works just as I need.

not sure what the hoo-blah is. I have been using Nova prime beta with no issues. No problems returning home... No speed issues. The warning that is in there is talking about the gesture navigation system wide not inside the launcher. So this means you have to use the classic 3 button method to navigate (back, home, recent). IMHO this does not affect the experience at all. Definitely prefer Nova and the customization over the stock launcher. :good:
Edit:Actually just changed the nav settings and Nova is working with new gestures.

ksmullins88 said:
not sure what the hoo-blah is. I have been using Nova prime beta with no issues. No problems returning home... No speed issues. The warning that is in there is talking about the gesture navigation system wide not inside the launcher. So this means you have to use the classic 3 button method to navigate (back, home, recent). IMHO this does not affect the experience at all. Definitely prefer Nova and the customization over the stock launcher. :good:
Edit:Actually just changed the nav settings and Nova is working with new gestures.
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I just switched back to Nova from Lawnchair on both my S20+ and Pixel 4XL. Nova works beautiful now and Nova Google Companion works with dark mode.

I'm on Android 11 Beta and am running Nova with no problems with gestures at all. For some reason on 10 they were not working as smooth and I would get some lag going back to the home screen. On 11, those problems have seemed to disappear.

While that's true, the closing app animation is not there and feels weird. ( Using gesture navigation )