Downgrade From Android 10 to Android Pie - How? - Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers

Hi Guys,
First, humble apologies if I have asked this question in the wrong section and if there is already an answer to this - I just couldn't find one after a cursory search.
My Pixel 3 XL recently upgraded itself to Android 10 from Pie.
I have noticed a number of issues with the "upgrade", as have others it would seem.
Anyway I would like to roll back to Android Pie.
Can someone tell me, show me, how I can go about doing this please?
Instructions in easy to follow simpleton English would be gratefully appreciated
Thanks in advance.
All the best,
Keith

hiya
Probably cant roll back. If you are OEM unlocked you could try Fastboot but with each major upgrade - they change certain BL / Security Versions so you cant roll back.

fkofilee said:
hiya
Probably cant roll back. If you are OEM unlocked you could try Fastboot but with each major upgrade - they change certain BL / Security Versions so you cant roll back.
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Hi,
Sorry but I am not sure what you mean, especially this bit: "they change certain BL / Security Versions so you cant roll back"
I have read in the various news reports, and on the Google support page, that those who have had issues with their Pixel 3 XL after the upgrade to 10 fixed their issues be downgrading back to PIE.
So I am guessing it can be done but I haven't got a clue how to do it.

Find a build of pie and flash through ADB

b1337 said:
Find a build of pie and flash through ADB
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Sorry but I am very much a grey haired old "noob" when it comes to this and I haven't got a clue what you just said.
Can you explain please?
Maybe provide some nice easy to follow instructions?

Keith W said:
Hi Guys,
First, humble apologies if I have asked this question in the wrong section and if there is already an answer to this - I just couldn't find one after a cursory search.
My Pixel 3 XL recently upgraded itself to Android 10 from Pie.
I have noticed a number of issues with the "upgrade", as have others it would seem.
Anyway I would like to roll back to Android Pie.
Can someone tell me, show me, how I can go about doing this please?
Instructions in easy to follow simpleton English would be gratefully appreciated
Thanks in advance.
All the best,
Keith
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https://developers.google.com/android/images
Everything is right there, this will wipe your device. If you aren't comfortable with what is there, you probably should just stay on 10, and wait for fixes to roll out.

OK I am officially as thick as pig manure :laugh:
I am obviously failing to understand how to do this because for the life of me I just cant get it to work.

Keith W said:
OK I am officially as thick as pig manure :laugh:
I am obviously failing to understand how to do this because for the life of me I just cant get it to work.
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Think you are better off staying on 10 with your lack of understanding, try a factory reset instead

Keith W said:
OK I am officially as thick as pig manure :laugh:
I am obviously failing to understand how to do this because for the life of me I just cant get it to work.
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Greeting from a fellow grey haired android user. Flashing old versions etc used tobe quite easy on these phones but things changed a few years ago to have slots and some othe mallarky which has made messing about with the phone a bit more complicated and very touchy.
I used to muck around a lot but I keep clear and keep it simple these days. Any problems I will do a factory reset and if problems still arise I will reset without restoring data.
Wifi calling was not working on mine after updating but this was down to vodafone rather than google and it's sorted now.
Nice hearing comments like thick as pig manure on here

I ended up re-setting the phone and restoring from a backup.
That was fun
Still had lost of settings to sort out and for some reason it didn't back up my custom sounds so has to re-install all of those.
Alas the phone is still misbehaving a bit so I hope Google push out some fixes for these issues soon.

if you unlock your bootloader you can then easily roll back to P

I sure hope Google release a fix for this soon, using my Pixel 3XL has become a real pain since the update to 10

OK so now apps on my phone have stopped responding to touch.
It is now taking me multiple presses to get them to open.
I am having to re-start my phone multiple times just to get a bit of functionality back.

Keith W said:
OK so now apps on my phone have stopped responding to touch.
It is now taking me multiple presses to get them to open.
I am having to re-start my phone multiple times just to get a bit of functionality back.
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did you ever factory reset?

FcukBloat said:
did you ever factory reset?
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Yes, did that yesterday, has made no difference

Keith W said:
Yes, did that yesterday, has made no difference
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Probably because you are restoring apps from back up, start clean install new copy of each app etc

b1337 said:
Probably because you are restoring apps from back up, start clean install new copy of each app etc
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Nope, I have done a clean restore as well.
Also the apps that are playing up and not responding to touch are Googles built in apps, like the messaging app for instance, so it is not just a third party app issue either.

Well fawk an a Keith looks like you're screwed unless you get your learn on, Google is your friend

b1337 said:
Well fawk an a Keith looks like you're screwed unless you get your learn on, Google is your friend
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That's one way of putting it

OK please bear in mind I'm new at this but.....
.... is it possible to downgrade to Pie by "side-loading" OTA using ADP? (I have no idea what any of that means )
I just want to check that is possible before I give it go
Oh and is there anything "special" I should do or pay attention to?
Thanks in advance

Related

Verizon threaded sms

hi, i was wondering if i could get threaded sms for my vogue, i have verizon, ive searched and read so much, and it looks like a pain to do, is there a cab file that does everything? ive heard so many people with verizon saying they have problems after installing the threaded sms
i want the same thing.
i flashed a 6.1 rom to my verizon vogue, and problems started so luckily changed over the boot up images and stuff like that so it looked like it was WM 6.0 and they took it .
But i wish i could have the threaded text.
irocknikes123 said:
i want the same thing.
i flashed a 6.1 rom to my verizon vogue, and problems started so luckily changed over the boot up images and stuff like that so it looked like it was WM 6.0 and they took it .
But i wish i could have the threaded text.
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LOL ! Wait until they realize you returned a device with a new Radio/ROM. You can't just change the images.
If you dont want to upgrade the rom then try using the program PocketCM, it comes with threaded SMS.
TheChampJT said:
LOL ! Wait until they realize you returned a device with a new Radio/ROM. You can't just change the images.
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well i didnt think so either but its been about a month or 2 now so i think im safe .
irocknikes123 said:
well i didnt think so either but its been about a month or 2 now so i think im safe .
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Sweet ! If they still haven't in a few a months, let me know. Did you at least relock it?
TheChampJT said:
Sweet ! If they still haven't in a few a months, let me know. Did you at least relock it?
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You think im still not in the clear even though its been about two months?
what do you mean relock ?
irocknikes123 said:
You think im still not in the clear even though its been about two months?
what do you mean relock ?
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I'm not exactly sure what process the device goes through, but it's very possible that if they hard reset the device, your original flashed ROM will reappear. As for relocking, remember when you unlocked it? If a tech rep checks for certain things, they will notice the phone is unlocked.
Also, to answer the original quesion here, you can use shogunmark's threaded SMS.
Well this should be interesting

Boot Looping Problems

First of all, I know I am in the general section when I should be posting in the thread of the current rom I am running. But the forum will not let me, it says I have an insufficient post count to post in a development section which is where thread is located. (I think this is a pretty stupid rule, especially when a person like me who lurks these forums and uses it to find roms to use, and when that lurker needs to find help they cannot post in the appropriate section ; end rant).
Anyway, onto the boot loop problem. My current phone setup is : ParanoidAndroid 1.9.7 for the ROM and Trinity kerenl with 1344Ghz cpu clock and 304Ghz gpu clock.
What is happening is a boot loop at the Google screen. The first time this happened, my on screen navigation keys disappeared and when I tried to reboot my phone it boot looped. To fix it i had to do a clean install (I still have access to recovery when this happens). That was about 4 or 5 days ago, and I was fine up until now. This time the navigation keys didn't disappear, it was just a normal reboot that I did because when i plugged my phone in for the night it didn't display that it was charging, this is a normal thing for me and all it takes is a reboot and it will display charging status. Except this time when I went to reboot it, it boot looped at the Google screen again. I heard that a dirty flash of the rom may help, but I am not sure about this, and I don't want to screw my phone up anymore than it is, other than that I am pretty stuck as far what to do to fix the problem goes.
If more information is needed or if my explanation is unclear just post.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
crashngo said:
First of all, I know I am in the general section when I should be posting in the thread of the current rom I am running. But the forum will not let me, it says I have an insufficient post count to post in a development section which is where thread is located. (I think this is a pretty stupid rule, especially when a person like me who lurks these forums and uses it to find roms to use, and when that lurker needs to find help they cannot post in the appropriate section ; end rant).
Anyway, onto the boot loop problem. My current phone setup is : ParanoidAndroid 1.9.7 for the ROM and Trinity kerenl with 1344Ghz cpu clock and 304Ghz gpu clock.
What is happening is a boot loop at the Google screen. The first time this happened, my on screen navigation keys disappeared and when I tried to reboot my phone it boot looped. To fix it i had to do a clean install (I still have access to recovery when this happens). That was about 4 or 5 days ago, and I was fine up until now. This time the navigation keys didn't disappear, it was just a normal reboot that I did because when i plugged my phone in for the night it didn't display that it was charging, this is a normal thing for me and all it takes is a reboot and it will display charging status. Except this time when I went to reboot it, it boot looped at the Google screen again. I heard that a dirty flash of the rom may help, but I am not sure about this, and I don't want to screw my phone up anymore than it is, other than that I am pretty stuck as far what to do to fix the problem goes.
If more information is needed or if my explanation is unclear just post.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Why don't you try with 1.99 version? Also theres a fix for 1.9.7 did you installed it?
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Also what GN are you using GSM?
Rotary Heart said:
Why don't you try with 1.99 version? Also theres a fix for 1.9.7 did you installed it?
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Also what GN are you using GSM?
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I was actually downloading 1.99 as I was typing that, and I was not aware of a fix for 1.97. What was the fix exactly? If it was for a boot loop problem I will feel like a total moron and sorry for wasting everyone's time.
Its CDMA.
crashngo said:
I was actually downloading 1.99 as I was typing that, and I was not aware of a fix for 1.97. What was the fix exactly? If it was for a boot loop problem I will feel like a total moron and sorry for wasting everyone's time.
Its CDMA.
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Well I have GSM so I don't know if they are keeping it up the same but try the 1.99 with wipe and everything, report back when you are done. I don't remember what the fix do, but there is one.
Rotary Heart said:
Well I have GSM so I don't know if they are keeping it up the same but try the 1.99 with wipe and everything, report back when you are done. I don't remember what the fix do, but there is one.
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There is a 1.99 for CDMA so I am going to flash that.
Rotary Heart said:
Well I have GSM so I don't know if they are keeping it up the same but try the 1.99 with wipe and everything, report back when you are done. I don't remember what the fix do, but there is one.
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Well I flashed 1.99, only time will tell how it does.
Also I noticed your screen name, do you drive a rx-7 or rx-8?
crashngo said:
Well I flashed 1.99, only time will tell how it does.
Also I noticed your screen name, do you drive a rx-7 or rx-8?
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I have had 5 RX-7 and I'm only 21... and more to come
Rotary Heart said:
I have had 5 RX-7 and I'm only 21... and more to come
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Holy crap....lol
Im looking into getting a gen 1 RX- 8 just alittle worried about the renesis motors.
crashngo said:
Holy crap....lol
Im looking into getting a gen 1 RX- 8 just alittle worried about the renesis motors.
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Worried why?
Rotary Heart said:
Worried why?
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I've heard they can be very finicky and if not taken care of properly they'll have problems.
crashngo said:
I've heard they can be very finicky and if not taken care of properly they'll have problems.
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Well same with any other engine, they need some care, but if you do it right (its not hard at all) you can have a sexy Daily Driver for a lot of years :highfive:
Rotary Heart said:
Well same with any other engine, they need some care, but if you do it right (its not hard at all) you can have a sexy Daily Driver for a lot of years :highfive:
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Very true, and thats what I am hoping for.
crashngo said:
Very true, and thats what I am hoping for.
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Remember to report back if you have any issue. Also you should try to post in the developers section of Paranoid Android now that you can
Good Luck with both the car and the phone :good:
Rotary Heart said:
Remember to report back if you have any issue. Also you should try to post in the developers section of Paranoid Android now that you can
Good Luck with both the car and the phone :good:
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Will do, and thanks.
Any chance you found a resolution. I can't get mine to work either.
captnawesem said:
Any chance you found a resolution. I can't get mine to work either.
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What version and kernel are you using?

GPS Signal Broken -- Fix Found

Hello all,
Long time lurker, just wanted to share an issue I had.
I've flashed nearly every ROM that is out there since I got my SGS3 and have never had any GPS issues, however this weekend I used it without a problem but Tuesday all of a sudden turning it on and off still produced nothing...not even the increased battery drain from having GPS on.
Here's what I did in hopes that it can help someone or at least give some knowledge as there wasn't a lot out there when I searched:
1.) Restored a previous Nandroid that I knew had a working GPS --- Result = FAIL
2.) Searched XDA and Google...found a video with some USSD codes for the dialer, etc.. ---- Result = FAIL
3.) Pulled battery and sim card, etc... --- Result = FAIL
4.) Flashed Wicked as I know that is a stable and highly used ROM. Everything great but still no GPS. ---- Result = FAIL
5.) Found a suggestion about clearing cache in google framework, Maps and uninstalling Maps updates. Result = FAIL
**however Play Store wouldn't let me update Maps when I rebooted as it said it wasn't compatible with my phone. No clue why.
6.) Finally I decided to do Triangle Away and Chainfires unrooting procedure to get back to unrooted stock. ---Result = SUCCESS!
Not sure what about it made GPS come back, however the next step will of course be to root again and see if there are any issues.
Hope this helps someone who ends up in my situation. Feel free to PM if you need more details.
Thanks to all
Edit: Just as an FYI -- when I rooted again, GPS was still back and I've had no issues since.
Thanks man, I like threads like these because you never know when you may need them. Same issue for me. On CM10 ROMs,I have trouble locking onto GPS, and the fix for me has been downloading GPS test and running that before using something like navigation.it's a minor inconvenience but it works great
Overall, if you have something borked, no matter what rom you use... no matter how many times you wipe... odin back to stock, should fix it always.
mt3g said:
Overall, if you have something borked, no matter what rom you use... no matter how many times you wipe... odin back to stock, should fix it always.
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True, but honestly, that doesn't always work. I have a second SGS3 Pebble Blue 32GB, and it won't play nice with Lean Kernel/Ktoonz, unless it's the touchwiz based kernels, whereas my white 16GB runs all of them flawlessly. They were rooted and booted the same way, and they both have the same GPS issue.
Out of curiosity, what's the chainfire way of going back to stock?
Also, do we have any guides here/on youtube that detail how to odin back to stock. I'm gonna give it a go on the blue one again/cross my fingers hoping I made a mistake, hence why I want a guide lol! *Searches*
thanks for the info jpk17!
saved us a lot of time here for whoever has that issue in the future.
can you provide the link to Chainfire's unroot procedure?
thanks!
Good to know but youcould have got straight to the point rather than writting five pages of useless stuff then saying something that to be honest is not any special invention anyways.
lazarat said:
Good to know but youcould have got straight to the point rather than writting five pages of useless stuff then saying something that to be honest is not any special invention anyways.
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Kind of a **** huh? He was just explaining what he did. Geeze.
Sent from my SGS3 Stock Rooted & Odexed
I love this thing!
The only time my gps was ever messed up was when i used a sprint leak JB rom and had the gps turned off. Flashed a couple roms after no gps whatsoever. Odin'ed with 2 or 3 different versions and still couldnt get the gps back.
Finally I flashed another JB rom based on the sprint leak and turned GPS back on and everything started working again. Lesson learned on using sprint leaks lol.
Had op's problem myself before, and full wiping and Odin'ing back to stock actually didn't work.. what did work though was after full unroot, doing tmo ota update.
Who knows, this info could help someone out as well..
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Unroot Procedure Used
HG! said:
thanks for the info jpk17!
saved us a lot of time here for whoever has that issue in the future.
can you provide the link to Chainfire's unroot procedure?
thanks!
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Here is the procedure I followed to unroot...followed step by step and couldn't have been easier to follow:
I can't post links as I don't have over 10 posts yet, but should be able to figure it out from this:
www . androidrootz . com
Copy the next line after the .com and you'll get to the page.
/2012/10/how-to-unroot-samsung-galaxy-s3-at.html
Mr. Pot ...meet Mr. Kettle
lazarat said:
Good to know but youcould have got straight to the point rather than writting five pages of useless stuff then saying something that to be honest is not any special invention anyways.
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My sincere apologies that my 15 line post was too much to handle.
I'd also like to thank you for such a nice response to a first time poster that was clearly just trying to help the community for an issue that is rare and relatively undocumented based on my searches.
I shall go back to normal... lurking and wading through useless posts like yours to find those with relevance...
jpk17 said:
My sincere apologies that my 15 line post was too much to handle.
I'd also like to thank you for such a nice response to a first time poster that was clearly just trying to help the community for an issue that is rare and relatively undocumented based on my searches.
I shall go back to normal... lurking and wading through useless posts like yours to find those with relevance...
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Just dont get some people....thanks for the steps. But im traveling away from home and only have my MAC and it cant get Bootcamp to work on this one, so my question is, how do i unroot on a mac.
Thanks i advance guys....
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My sincere apologies that my 15 line post was too much to handle.
I'd also like to thank you for such a nice response to a first time poster that was clearly just trying to help the community for an issue that is rare and relatively undocumented based on my searches.
I shall go back to normal... lurking and wading through useless posts like yours to find those with relevance...
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Dont let this guy discourage you. He's generally an arse to everyone. When i see a pointless **** post from him like you received, just keep reading through Thanks for the thread!
jpk17 said:
My sincere apologies that my 15 line post was too much to handle.
I'd also like to thank you for such a nice response to a first time poster that was clearly just trying to help the community for an issue that is rare and relatively undocumented based on my searches.
I shall go back to normal... lurking and wading through useless posts like yours to find those with relevance...
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Hey man props for the post it'll probably help someone out, assuming they are respectful enough to search and try things before posting. Which I also want to commend you on. Most like to post frantically wanting help before bothering to search or try anything. So gj man
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This fixed my GPS too. Triangle away and then flash stock NON ROOTED firmware and GPS will come back...NOW hopefully this fixes my weird battery life too. About to root again and shoot right back to PA android and see if it works there. Wish me luck
Edit. Yup it works. Went straight to pa android
osmosizzz said:
This fixed my GPS too. Triangle away and then flash stock NON ROOTED firmware and GPS will come back...NOW hopefully this fixes my weird battery life too. About to root again and shoot right back to PA android and see if it works there. Wish me luck
Edit. Yup it works. Went straight to pa android
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Ok so i finally unrooted using above steps. Still no gps. Tried GPS Toolbox, GPS Test and the google navigation. Nothing.
What Im seeing is that the little Icon in the upper status bar never shows. Like ether it doesnt even see a SAT, or the receiver in my phone isnt even turning on.
If i cant figure out, i guess ill go back to Tmo....
Thanks for the help.
What I did was go to a stock ics based Rom then triangle away and then I followed the site that op posted. The download was ridiculously slow. Took like an hour for 690mb. That should do the trick. Do it in that order
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osmosizzz said:
What I did was go to a stock ics based Rom then triangle away and then I followed the site that op posted. The download was ridiculously slow. Took like an hour for 690mb. That should do the trick. Do it in that order
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HAHA funny, i actually did it EXACTLY like that. I tried a stock ICS ROM from wildchild and nothing. Then Triangle away, ODIN flash to stock with un root and factory reset and nothing.
If i wasnt getting lock, that would be different. But im not getting the little Icon in top left corner.
I have a friend with a Stock Sprint phone and his works in same room.
Thanks
Sucks cordell... Sorry you're not getting it working.
Only thought I had if I followed you correctly is you said you went to a wildchild stock. Maybe you need to go back to the older stock from the link that worked for osmosis and I?
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jpk17 said:
Sucks cordell... Sorry you're not getting it working.
Only thought I had if I followed you correctly is you said you went to a wildchild stock. Maybe you need to go back to the older stock from the link that worked for osmosis and I?
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I went to wild child stock just before i unrooted and went to Stock Tmo form the guide above. I didnt think that would have made a difference.
Im not gonna root and go to store, so ill go to store and see what they say.
The reason i went to the wildchild stock based ICS rom was hope that I wouldnt have to unroot....
Thanks.
EDIT>>> Just did the OTA from Tmo and back .. Yes GPS back,
Thanks minigame

BUG: JB 4.1.2 update - Pressing Home Button to wake brings up task manager sometimes?

I dont see a lot of posts about this. But, there is a very annoying bug after the update; where if I press the Home Button to wake the screen, it will sometimes launch the task manager about a second later. I've seen sporadic posts about this for Tmobile as well as Sprint for JB 4.1.2 update; but nobody seems to have a solution.
I guess it's possible that some people dont think it's annoying enough to post; or, it's a possiblility it only affects people who have the factory rooted update installed.
I'm hoping someone smarter than me has already figured out a way to circumvent this very annoying behavior. What makes it really bad is that it only sometimes happens.
PS: The only carrier that doesn't seem to have this issue after the 4.1.2 update is ATT. My guess is they caught this bug before pushing it to all their customers.
mkanet said:
I dont see a lot of posts about this. But, there is a very annoying bug after the update; where if I press the Home Button to wake the screen, it will sometimes launch the task manager about a second later. I've seen sporadic posts about this for Tmobile as well as Sprint for JB 4.1.2 update; but nobody seems to have a solution.
I guess it's possible that some people dont think it's annoying enough to post; or, it's a possiblility it only affects people who have the factory rooted update installed.
I'm hoping someone smarter than me has already figured out a way to circumvent this very annoying behavior. What makes it really bad is that it only sometimes happens.
PS: The only carrier that doesn't seem to have this issue after the 4.1.2 update is ATT. My guess is they caught this bug before pushing it to all their customers.
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I'm going to bet that is you disable your lockscreen you'll see this behavior just about every time. I'm fairly certain I tracked down at least one way to circumvent this behavior - check out this post for some info on it. The take home - my approach requires a wee bit of smali hacking, and everything that utilizing such a solution entails...
Dwitherell, thank you so much for responding. I was even considering on reverting back to 4.1.1 because of this. I don't use any kind password or pattern lock.
Forgive my ignorance, but the post you pointed me to locks like its on a Jedi ROM. I don't even see any specific references to this issue. What is this fix for specifically? If it is for sure going to restore normal behavior, i guess i could try to do this hack.
If this issue is as wide spread as i think it is, is there any chance you could make a tiny root app that fixes the problem or some way of automating a fix for not so technical people? How wide spread is this issue? Thanks a million for your help.
dwitherell said:
I'm going to bet that is you disable your lockscreen you'll see this behavior just about every time. I'm fairly certain I tracked down at least one way to circumvent this behavior - check out this post for some info on it. The take home - my approach requires a wee bit of smali hacking, and everything that utilizing such a solution entails...
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My annoying fix...
I have been plagued by this since the update as well. I have tried factory resets and uninstall programs one by one. Nothing worked. Today I decided to try removing my lock screen pin, just used the swipe to unlock. That did not work. Then it came to me...
I set back up my pin to unlock, and switched the setting "Lock automatically" to Immediately instead of having a delay that I love. That "worked" as in it no longer goes to recent apps. But now I have to chose to have a pin to unlock it every time my screen turns off or remove security or deal with the recent apps issue. Any way you choose it's an extra annoying step to unlock.
I'd like to hear if anyone else has found any other solution.
Edit.... I have tried every lock option and as long as set to lock immediately, it will eliminate the problem. And the same with setting any delay, with any lock option it will result in the recent apps.
I forgot to mention that lock screen prevents this bug from happenening. I'm guessing that's why not everyone has complained about the issue.. and why the bug somehow sneaked passed beta testing of 4.1.2. I would think this changed behavior was a new "feature" as horrible as it is, but it looks like it dad unintentional since its not consistent behavior.
I'm hoping that a kind android developer who also can't stand this problem, Kay offer a small script or app for rooted user to patch this problem.
mrtolles said:
I have been plagued by this since the update as well. I have tried factory resets and uninstall programs one by one. Nothing worked. Today I decided to try removing my lock screen pin, just used the swipe to unlock. That did not work. Then it came to me...
I set back up my pin to unlock, and switched the setting "Lock automatically" to Immediately instead of having a delay that I love. That "worked" as in it no longer goes to recent apps. But now I have to chose to have a pin to unlock it every time my screen turns off or remove security or deal with the recent apps issue. Any way you choose it's an extra annoying step to unlock.
I'd like to hear if anyone else has found any other solution.
Edit.... I have tried every lock option and as long as set to lock immediately, it will eliminate the problem. And the same with setting any delay, with any lock option it will result in the recent apps.
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mkanet said:
Dwitherell, thank you so much for responding. I was even considering on reverting back to 4.1.1 because of this. I don't use any kind password or pattern lock.
Forgive my ignorance, but the post you pointed me to locks like its on a Jedi ROM. I don't even see any specific references to this issue. What is this fix for specifically? If it is for sure going to restore normal behavior, i guess i could try to do this hack.
If this issue is as wide spread as i think it is, is there any chance you could make a tiny root app that fixes the problem or some way of automating a fix for not so technical people? How wide spread is this issue? Thanks a million for your help.
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It was posted in a Jedi thread, but only because that is where I noticed it was mentioned. The context outside that single post was someone stating the same observation as you, my responding saying that I was also annoyed by it, with a later edit saying I may have come up with a workaround for it, and their response of "tell me more". As far as automating a fix or creating an app or the like - that is well beyond my paygrade unfortunately. What are you running? If you are interested you could PM me - all I need is your android.policy.jar (or to know what you are currently running) and I can try to get a fix together for you given some other conditions (i.e. have a custom recovery installed so you can flash things). It seems to have fixed it on my end, but I would be very interested in getting some others to test
You did it! Your fix works perfectly! The bug is gone! ...like the bug was never there. My understanding is the fix prevents the phone from stupidly trying to launch the task manager when the screen wakes by the home button. I also donated for you time and effort. Thanks a million.
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It was posted in a Jedi thread, but only because that is where I noticed it was mentioned. The context outside that single post was someone stating the same observation as you, my responding saying that I was also annoyed by it, with a later edit saying I may have come up with a workaround for it, and their response of "tell me more". As far as automating a fix or creating an app or the like - that is well beyond my paygrade unfortunately. What are you running? If you are interested you could PM me - all I need is your android.policy.jar (or to know what you are currently running) and I can try to get a fix together for you given some other conditions (i.e. have a custom recovery installed so you can flash things). It seems to have fixed it on my end, but I would be very interested in getting some others to test
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No, thank you for making me learn how to put an odexed mod together and testing it for me!
So this fix will work for anyone running a stock odexed version of 4.1.2 UVBMB4 - you just need to be rooted, and having a custom recovery would be nice so you could flash it but you could also just copy the files over. That being said - would this be worthwhile to post?
I wish i had know i could just copy the files over.. that's actually less convoluted process than depending on a script. I thought the reason you made a patch via flashing is because the system files were locked/open by the system. Anyway, i am extremely thankful for this'll as there is no other way to fix the bug without adding extra steps to wake the screen.
You should definitely share both odexed and deodexed patches with others. I personally don't know how i could tollerate that bug for much longer. I'm sure there are others who don't use the lock screen. Plus, this would give a chance for others to appreciate your work by dontating for your time and effort.
mkanet said:
I wish i had know i could just copy the files over.. that's actually less convoluted process than depending on a script. I thought the reason you made a patch via flashing is because the system files were locked/open by the system. Anyway, i am extremely thankful for this'll as there is no other way to fix the bug without adding extra steps to wake the screen.
You should definitely share both odexed and deodexed patches with others. I personally don't know how i could tollerate that bug for much longer. I'm sure there are others who don't use the lock screen. Plus, this would give a chance for others to appreciate your work by dontating for your time and effort.
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The flashable zip is just one method to get the files where they need to go. Literally all it does is overwrite the 2 files in /system/framework by moving the 2 files over from the zip - but there are definitely other ways to do such things. Some are more comfortable with this route, others are more comfortable w/ getting /system to be rw and move the files manually.
I'll likely post this at some point in the next few days
I don't mean to revive a dead thread or anything, but this bug has been driving me CRAZY & the smali hacking worked perfectly for me, thank you!!!
FYI, I'm willing to help people out with this as well. If anyone wants this done but doesn't wanna mess with the java stuff, PM me & send me your android.policy.jar and I'll hack it for you
kabuk1 said:
I don't mean to revive a dead thread or anything, but this bug has been driving me CRAZY & the smali hacking worked perfectly for me, thank you!!!
FYI, I'm willing to help people out with this as well. If anyone wants this done but doesn't wanna mess with the java stuff, PM me & send me your android.policy.jar and I'll hack it for you
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Glad to hear
Is it possible that my phone isn't affected? If its a 4.1.2 bug, it should be in all phones with same version right?
This is not happening to my phone. Whether I have lock screen activated or not. I'm rooted but running stock ROM and I have Nova launcher installed if thats even important.
It's not all notes.
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kabuk1 said:
I don't mean to revive a dead thread or anything, but this bug has been driving me CRAZY & the smali hacking worked perfectly for me, thank you!!!
FYI, I'm willing to help people out with this as well. If anyone wants this done but doesn't wanna mess with the java stuff, PM me & send me your android.policy.jar and I'll hack it for you
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is this offer still good? i'm was experiencing the same problem and it was so annoying that the only solution i found was to revert back to 4.1.1. I'm currently running t889uvall4.
also, my phone is not rooted. will the fix dwitherell came up w/ work? or do i really have to root my phone?
wesblogger said:
is this offer still good? i'm was experiencing the same problem and it was so annoying that the only solution i found was to revert back to 4.1.1. I'm currently running t889uvall4.
also, my phone is not rooted. will the fix dwitherell came up w/ work? or do i really have to root my phone?
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Yes you'll need to be rooted unfortunately - sorry
wesblogger said:
is this offer still good? i'm was experiencing the same problem and it was so annoying that the only solution i found was to revert back to 4.1.1. I'm currently running t889uvall4.
also, my phone is not rooted. will the fix dwitherell came up w/ work? or do i really have to root my phone?
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Absolutely. just PM me. Yeah, you have to be rooted but that's easy to do & worth it for this hack & all the other things you can do once you're rooted.
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...Yeah, you have to be rooted but that's easy to do & worth it for this hack & all the other things you can do once you're rooted.
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^^^ THIS - a thousand times over

Hard Reboot on attempt to change keyboard.

Hello everyone!
I made a stupid mistake of uninstalling my GO Keyboard app before disabling the input method. So I install the Google Keyboard app. But when I get to the point where I need to change the input method to Google Keyboard, the phone hard reboots, saying XPERIA then the boot animation. I tried everything but no luck.
Any help appreciated,
- cheesedude
Is the device rooted?
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Is the device rooted?
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Yup, fully. I looked for an app like com.android.input to clear cache for, but I didn't find anything.
Typed from the terrible stock keyboard which changes to Chinese every few mins.
cheesedude said:
Yup, fully. I looked for an app like com.android.input to clear cache for, but I didn't find anything.
Typed from the terrible stock keyboard which changes to Chinese every few mins.
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Lol XD, what kind of ROM do you run? Stock or CM based?
Stock D: My phone was £110 so I don't want any risks of a brick.
Any help? D:
Well thanks for the 'help' guys Seriously though you post on this forum no one replies for a day or so and then it is moved down to the bottom of the forum. And this reply thing is buggy as hell thanks for wasting my time and if Sony ever finds me, well screw you, you only take the popular. devices and update them, and leave the other devices to rot in bugs. Thank f***ing you, XDA, it took me 25 minutes to re type this because of your terrible website on mobile, and I can't change my profile picture from a terrible minecraft thingy to something proffessional. And before you people jump in and judge me as a 9 year old minecraft player, I am only pissed off.
Don't rage and factory reset.

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