Hi guys just got a galaxy s9 here in the uk it was locked to the EE network. But i brought it unlocked its on the latest august security patch. But i want to simply flash the unlocked software on the phone as i dont like the EE bloatware. Can i flash the latest august unlocked software on my phone. Or should i wait till a newer patch comes out first? As i read you shouldnt flash the same security patches
aachil said:
Hi guys just got a galaxy s9 here in the uk it was locked to the EE network. But i brought it unlocked its on the latest august security patch. But i want to simply flash the unlocked software on the phone as i dont like the EE bloatware. Can i flash the latest august unlocked software on my phone. Or should i wait till a newer patch comes out first? As i read you shouldnt flash the same security patches
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youll be fine to flash the U1 firmware. Just know that the phone will think that it is a U1 model and only get its own updates from there. You might need the patched version of Odin tho. If the phone thinks its currently branded, itll throw errors thatll cause Odin to fail
thanks im in the uk tho
aachil said:
thanks im in the uk tho
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so? are you saying that you have the G960F then?
Yep i have the g960f galaxy s9
aachil said:
Hi guys just got a galaxy s9 here in the uk it was locked to the EE network. But i brought it unlocked its on the latest august security patch. But i want to simply flash the unlocked software on the phone as i dont like the EE bloatware. Can i flash the latest august unlocked software on my phone. Or should i wait till a newer patch comes out first? As i read you shouldnt flash the same security patches
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aachil said:
Yep i have the g960f galaxy s9
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I think BTU/XEU are your options for CSC. 'People' say BTU is better... IDK
BTW both firmwares have same baseband version so not sure whats the difference..
G960FXXU6CSGD is the firmware U need.
Security Patch Level: 2019-08-01. U should be fine on that.
After flashing to 'BTU' U should receive updates according to this website http://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G960F/BTU/doc.html
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Have U flashed new software yet? Whats the results??
Thanks paul appreciate the information. No i did not flash yet.
Only reason being when i checked samfirm program it said u can only flash the newest rom otherwise it could cause issues.
Im on the august security patch and the newest btu is also august so im guessing technically its not the newest.
So i got put off.
Unless it will ne fine im not to sure
aachil said:
Thanks paul appreciate the information. No i did not flash yet.
Only reason being when i checked samfirm program it said u can only flash the newest rom otherwise it could cause issues.
Im on the august security patch and the newest btu is also august so im guessing technically its not the newest.
So i got put off.
Unless it will ne fine im not to sure
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I never heard that flashing with the same security patch date will cause issues.
Then what about reflashing? If U wanna flash with the same firmware? Many people do it.
I would not use samfirm to download software.
Check this site https://samfrew.com/download/Galaxy__S9__/plhu/BTU/G960FXXU6CSGD/G960FOXM6CSH1/
Choose slow speed, download zip file, extract, install with ODIN.
Yes btu software is the correct one i need.
The reason why is because i dont like the carrier bloatware on my software.
And because i unlocked my phone i want to put the unlocked software. What is wrong with samfirm?
Is there a reason you say to avoid it
aachil said:
Yes btu software is the correct one i need.
The reason why is because i dont like the carrier bloatware on my software.
And because i unlocked my phone i want to put the unlocked software. What is wrong with samfirm?
Is there a reason you say to avoid it
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No reason. Just prefer something else.
U can check Frija, its good too and downloads fast.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/tool-frija-samsung-firmware-downloader-t3910594
Cheers paul never knew about frija ill check it out.
Ive just noticed the september patch is being released.
So as soon as the btu is available i will flash it.
Thanks again paul!
Paul8552 said:
I never heard that flashing with the same security patch date will cause issues.
Then what about reflashing? If U wanna flash with the same firmware? Many people do it.
I would not use samfirm to download software.
Check this site https://samfrew.com/download/Galaxy__S9__/plhu/BTU/G960FXXU6CSGD/G960FOXM6CSH1/
Choose slow speed, download zip file, extract, install with ODIN.
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samfirm is just fine, frija just has a better GUI
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DetectiveTaco said:
I have a Verizon locked Galaxy S9 (G960U) and I want to remove all the carrier branding and crap since. With the US Snapdragon Samsung devices having the bootloader locked and preventing the ability to root or flash custom ROMs this is the only way I can get rid of the carrier branding garbage. Though there is so many firmwares and different versions of the G960U1 firmware that I don't know what to get. Or which version of Odin I need or what to do to flash using Odin. If anyone is willing to help and walk me through this process that would be amazing because there is no good detailed step by step guides or videos on YouTube on how to do it. Or they aren't recent.
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get the patched Odin here
and the latest U1 firmware here
put the 4 files from the firmware in their respective spots, using CSC to factory reset the phone and HOME_CSC to flash the firmware without resetting.
let me know if youre not familiar with Odin enough to understand what im getting at
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DetectiveTaco said:
I looked at the firmware link and it was build back in August but I am already on the September Security patch?
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as long as its the same bootloader, itll work and itll update itself as normal once booted
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Update: I tried doing this using a different machine and it worked as it should. I am now running the U1 firmware. Thanks for the sources for the resources and reccomendations.
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you bet man! glad it all turned out as we know it should
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One last question, did your CSC change when you flashed the U1? My CSC before flashing was VZW/VZW/VZW and it's still VZW/VZW/VZW. In the phone info app it says my firmwares CSC code is XAA which is what it should be since I flashed the XAA G960U1. But then it says the active CSC code is VZW. Does this mean I will not receive the unlocked OTA updates from Samsung directly like I thought I would, and instead I will still receive the Verizon OTA updates instead. http://imgur.com/a/KgooKUR
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it should still get updates for the OTA version. What happened is when you put the vzw card in, the firmware chose VZW since that was one of the available CSCs in the package. No worries man
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Or is it like because the CSC is Country/Region/Operator and VZW was a part of the multi CSC package but the firmware uses the XAA CSC code it will pull the updates from the XAA provider in this case that being Samsung.
I will probably wait until the next update for XAA devices is pushed and see if I receive it. And I'll either report back here or PM you if I receive the OTA for the next XAA G960U1 update
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thats what i was driver after. the version of firmware you flashed contains several CSCs and the vzw one is what the phone latched on to. If you popped another sim in there thats within that csc list, itll probably do similar stuff with that
yeah, feel free to hit me up. if you pm me on here, i might not answer super fast, but ill eventually get to it lol
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Yep sure thing. Hopefully the October patch will get pushed soon and ill found out.
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oh, forgot to address one of your previous questions. You can flash those files all you want, the nice part about them is that if youre flashing a new version on top of the old one, just flash the CSC_HOME and it will keep your phone exactly how it was but still apply the update. Its pretty sweet
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Yeah I flashed the regular CSC going from G960U to G960U1 because how it was a bigger transition and I didn't want to leave traces of Verizon crap.
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very good. thats a perfect example of when to use the CSC vs the HOME_CSC
I'm selling a SIM-unlocked Samsung phone that was originally from Verizon. If I flash it back to stock, does it automatically detect what SIM it has and just "adds" those carrier apps? 'Cause it seemed like it did that when I had it on MetroPCS and T-Mobile. Or is that just on jrkruse's ROM? How would I get this back to stock so it can get security patches again?
I have downloaded a firmware file named "SM-G955U_1_20191002135553_sh0v99vvjn_fac," is this the latest?
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I'm selling a SIM-unlocked Samsung phone that was originally from Verizon. If I flash it back to stock, does it automatically detect what SIM it has and just "adds" those carrier apps? 'Cause it seemed like it did that when I had it on MetroPCS and T-Mobile. Or is that just on jrkruse's ROM? How would I get this back to stock so it can get security patches again?
I have downloaded a firmware file named "SM-G955U_1_20191002135553_sh0v99vvjn_fac," is this the latest?
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I dont know what that firmware is. That's not from a legit site it seems. I would use updato or sammobile. For the latest. And yes if you put a multi csc stock firmware it will auto detect sim and personalize accordingly
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I dont know what that firmware is. That's not from a legit site it seems. I would use updato or sammobile. For the latest. And yes if you put a multi csc stock firmware it will auto detect sim and personalize accordingly
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That's why I'm kind of hesitant to flash it back to stock. But I might have someone interested in it as it is, so I just factory reset it and will wait on a response.
Hi All,
My apps are updating fine and i see that android 10 has been out for a few months now yet my Note10+ SM-N975U is not updating at all. it seems my security patches are still stuck on august 2019 and every time i try to OTA update, it says my phone us up to date. Is there anyway to bypass this. I see everyone saying to use Odin to update my phone but i am not familiar with the program and where/how to source the note 10 update
Id greatly appreciate the help as its affecting many of my apps
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Hi All,
My apps are updating fine and i see that android 10 has been out for a few months now yet my Note10+ SM-N975U is not updating at all. it seems my security patches are still stuck on august 2019 and every time i try to OTA update, it says my phone us up to date. Is there anyway to bypass this. I see everyone saying to use Odin to update my phone but i am not familiar with the program and where/how to source the note 10 update
Id greatly appreciate the help as its affecting many of my apps
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+1 for me. Ive spent almost 2 years and 3 phones trying to get an answer to this. My note 8 had this problem, then my note 10+, then the replacement note 10+. At&t blames Samsung, then Samsung blames at&t, over and over and over. I even had a Samsung technician sit in on a 3 way call with an at&t technician for the better part of an hour. The last I heard was that at&t was petitioning samsung to fix something on their end because at&t shows that everything is up to date on my phone but its not. Im looking into Odin too because this is getting stupid.
At&t is horrible with OTA's. They work for some but for a lot of people it does not, and I am one of them. At&t has never been able to give me an answer as to why this happened on my Note 8..9..and 10+.
Odin is very easy. You dont have to use At&t firmware you can use any Snapdragon US firmware they are the same. Once its installed, it will provision to you sim. There are many threads that have the firmware needed or just us Frija to download the firmware. Once downloaded you need to extract the files. You will have BL..AP..CP..CSC...HOME_csc. You need to download the correct version of Odin to flash the firmware. Open Odin put device in download mode connect device. Once odin recognizes devices find where you extracted the firmware. In odin put BL in BL spot..AP in AP spot..CP in Cp spot. If you want to save data, put HOME_csc in CSC spot. If you want clean install put CSC in CSC spot as it will wipe device. Once you have everything where it should be click start and Odin will flash the firmware. Once complete Odin will say PASS at top left..boot time should take a few minutes. But remember if the firmware you flash has a higher bootloader you cant downgrade back to previous version.
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So I can use a verizon csc and it will work on a att branded phone? Or is a generic one better?
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Basically which one do you pick. I'm leaning towards a tmobile because it sounds like the included bloatware is smaller.
I have At&t device purchased at At&t. I have used USC..Tmobile..Verizon. The device will provision to your sim. If you dont want bloat just flash U1 firmware. But I think you will lose advanced features like wifi calling if you do. I cant remember if flashing a (U) csc with U1 firmware brings back advanced features. But prob just stick with 1 firmware until you have a understanding on how to do this...Good luck.
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I have At&t device purchased at At&t. I have used USC..Tmobile..Verizon. The device will provision to your sim. If you dont want bloat just flash U1 firmware. But I think you will lose advanced features like wifi calling if you do. I cant remember if flashing a (U) csc with U1 firmware brings back advanced features. But prob just stick with 1 firmware until you have a understanding on how to do this...Good luck.
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I actually went ahead and did this last night with the tmobile firmware and it was just as easy as you said. For whatever reason I didn't even get any bloatware. It booted up with the at&t logo and sound, and my software version says att/att/att. I put my sim card back in and there were no special notifications or anything, everything just worked. I wonder if Frija gave me the att firmware despite me putting in tmb? Either way, everything is up to day now. Thanks for the help!
Anytime my friend glad it all worked out[emoji106]
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Hello!
Sorry if I'm posting in a wrong place.
Will Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ US SIM FREE, getting regularly (automatic) updates in Europe.
Thank you.
butchieboy said:
At&t is horrible with OTA's. They work for some but for a lot of people it does not, and I am one of them. At&t has never been able to give me an answer as to why this happened on my Note 8..9..and 10+.
Odin is very easy. You dont have to use At&t firmware you can use any Snapdragon US firmware they are the same. Once its installed, it will provision to you sim. There are many threads that have the firmware needed or just us Frija to download the firmware. Once downloaded you need to extract the files. You will have BL..AP..CP..CSC...HOME_csc. You need to download the correct version of Odin to flash the firmware. Open Odin put device in download mode connect device. Once odin recognizes devices find where you extracted the firmware. In odin put BL in BL spot..AP in AP spot..CP in Cp spot. If you want to save data, put HOME_csc in CSC spot. If you want clean install put CSC in CSC spot as it will wipe device. Once you have everything where it should be click start and Odin will flash the firmware. Once complete Odin will say PASS at top left..boot time should take a few minutes. But remember if the firmware you flash has a higher bootloader you cant downgrade back to previous version.
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Hi I have the same problem. I flashed android 10 One UI 2.0 on my Exynos Note10+ SM-N975F last December via Odin and download the firmware from Samfrew(like Sammobile).(the firmware is the German version and I bought my phone from Egypt) Since then I didn't receive any security patch updates I only have the December 2019 one. Will it be safe if I download the latest firmware from Sammobile and flash it; the file in over 5GB , can this overwrite? I never tried to flash the same software two times. Is it safe?
As long as you are using the firmware that is for your device and your region you should be fine. Although this is Snapdragon thread I would think International flashing is same. You may want to double check in your device specific thread as I don't want to be the blame if there is something different with F version.
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Also try turning off auto update date and time. Set date like 5days ahead. Then check for update. Sometimes this little trick works for OTA
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Robiko said:
Hello!
Sorry if I'm posting in a wrong place.
Will Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ US SIM FREE, getting regularly (automatic) updates in Europe.
Thank you.
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Yes,i have u1 version and i receive update regulary,now waiting for oneui 2.1 [emoji3]
Greetings,
I'm super new here, also a tech noob so pls be gentle.
I purchased an unlocked At&T Note 10+, and i am living in Malaysia. Little that I know At&T would never send updates to out network, and that I require an At&t SIM in order to get the updates. Currently I am stucked with Android 9, ONE UI 1.5, with no hope of getting anything higher than that.
My question is, how can i get the updates besides flashing a new firmware? I tried connecting to Smart Switch on my laptop, and all it can says is that my software is up to date on SJ8 (ATT).
Hope there's a way other than flashing. HELP.
mohdazrimny said:
I want to thank everyone for the help. I have flashed my phone with the latest XAA rom, n all is running great. I have also received OTA May security updates.
Thanks again!
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Hi Mohd Azrimny,
Am in the same boat as you. In Malaysia and have the note 10 plus at&t version. How did you manage? I am using Odin and getting error message connection failed. Not sure what is the problem.
Can you point me from where you downloaded the firmware? I am suspecting that is the culprit.
Thanks!
mohdazrimny said:
Greetings,
I'm super new here, also a tech noob so pls be gentle.
I purchased an unlocked At&T Note 10+, and i am living in Malaysia. Little that I know At&T would never send updates to out network, and that I require an At&t SIM in order to get the updates. Currently I am stucked with Android 9, ONE UI 1.5, with no hope of getting anything higher than that.
My question is, how can i get the updates besides flashing a new firmware? I tried connecting to Smart Switch on my laptop, and all it can says is that my software is up to date on SJ8 (ATT).
Hope there's a way other than flashing. HELP.
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I'm sorry but I don't think there's other way around, you'll need to flash another firmware.
I have an Unlocked Verizon Note10+, the first thing I did after getting it out of the box was flash the unbranded firmware (CSC: XAA).
Ever since, I've had OTA updates as quick as they're released for N975U1.
joyousfrank said:
I'm sorry but I don't think there's other way around, you'll need to flash another firmware.
I have an Unlocked Verizon Note10+, the first thing I did after getting it out of the box was flash the unbranded firmware (CSC: XAA).
Ever since, I've had OTA updates as quick as they're released for N975U1.
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I see...tq man. Can u help me out with one last thing? As they are thousands of firmware out there, which one should i choose? Can i simply choose any unbranded firmware (N975U1) from any month security updates n just flash it? I just need a stock ROM, not the latest should be ok as the OTA will take care of the rest.
Right now i'm at nov 2019 security updates SJ8 (ATT).
Thanks in advance.
mohdazrimny said:
I see...tq man. Can u help me out with one last thing? As they are thousands of firmware out there, which one should i choose? Can i simply choose any unbranded firmware (N975U1) from any month security updates n just flash it? I just need a stock ROM, not the latest should be ok as the OTA will take care of the rest.
Right now i'm at nov 2019 security updates SJ8 (ATT).
Thanks in advance.
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Well, unfortunately I'm not sure about previous versions, however I'm leaving attached my SW information, my CSC is XAA.
You can download it from sammobile or frija (this is way faster).
Hope this helps,
Regards.
So, knowing you are a noob is half the solution already...
I highly recommend you look for Frija on the internet. Download the tool, search for the phone you have , it is a SM-N975U , and since you want to get rid from the AT&T version, you can install the SM-N975U1 version with XAA as CSC, that Samsung themselves push updates to. Even if they will not, you can always download the next revisions..
I assume you know how to use Odin..
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Well, unfortunately I'm not sure about previous versions, however I'm leaving attached my SW information, my CSC is XAA.
You can download it from sammobile or frija (this is way faster).
Hope this helps,
Regards.
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Thank you man! For real!
BigE said:
So, knowing you are a noob is half the solution already...
I highly recommend you look for Frija on the internet. Download the tool, search for the phone you have , it is a SM-N975U , and since you want to get rid from the AT&T version, you can install the SM-N975U1 version with XAA as CSC, that Samsung themselves push updates to. Even if they will not, you can always download the next revisions..
I assume you know how to use Odin..
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Yes i do know how to use Odin. Just soo terrified if i'd use the wrong firmware. I've also downloaded the firmware yesterday, but still not sure of it until now. So thank you, its clear now.
mohdazrimny said:
Yes i do know how to use Odin. Just soo terrified if i'd use the wrong firmware. I've also downloaded the firmware yesterday, but still not sure of it until now. So thank you, its clear now.
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No worries, as Odin and the phone check revisions and suitability. If not the right firmware, it should not write it.
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No worries, as Odin and the phone check revisions and suitability. If not the right firmware, it should not write it.
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I want to thank everyone for the help. I have flashed my phone with the latest XAA rom, n all is running great. I have also received OTA May security updates.
Thanks again!
BigE said:
So, knowing you are a noob is half the solution already...
I highly recommend you look for Frija on the internet. Download the tool, search for the phone you have , it is a SM-N975U , and since you want to get rid from the AT&T version, you can install the SM-N975U1 version with XAA as CSC, that Samsung themselves push updates to. Even if they will not, you can always download the next revisions..
I assume you know how to use Odin..
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Thank you!!!!!!!!:good::good:
joyousfrank said:
I'm sorry but I don't think there's other way around, you'll need to flash another firmware.
I have an Unlocked Verizon Note10+, the first thing I did after getting it out of the box was flash the unbranded firmware (CSC: XAA).
Ever since, I've had OTA updates as quick as they're released for N975U1.
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hello, i know this an old thread, and yes. im also super super green and noob on all of this.. i too have Unlocked Verizon Note10+,
and after a month or so, it cant detect my local carrier as well (maxis) and i receive a message constantly about the sim is not verizon sim
so i was hoping , flashing the firmware would eliminate this problem
what i did was :
1) download odin v3.14
2)download frija 1.4.3
3) download firmware SM-n975u1 csc XAA from frija
4)tried to flash using odin..and failed multiple time
5)tried download a patched version of odin 3.14
6)download a bunch of other firmware from USA verizon, malayisia and others
7)failed and failed and failed again
so sifu please help me?where did i go wrong? will flashing new firmware fix my carrier problem? or its a verizon issue?because it was working fine a month ago ..please help..
Hi, I'm wanting to sign up to the UK beta when it's released but I got my mobile from EE, if I flash the UK unlocked image will I be able to sign up to it? I have not done that for a while ?
Garner said:
Hi, I'm wanting to sign up to the UK beta when it's released but I got my mobile from EE, if I flash the UK unlocked image will I be able to sign up to it? I have not done that for a while ?
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You would need to change your CSC to BTU using samkey to enrol officially in the beta, or you can just flash the latest BTU firmware with Odin, then the update.zip for the beta from recovery
See here
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You would need to change your CSC to BTU using samkey to enrol officially in the beta, or you can just flash the latest BTU firmware with Odin, then the update.zip for the beta from recovery
See here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s20/how-to/oneui-3-0-beta-s20-ultra-beta-thread-t4176833
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Thanks for the reply ?? I thought flashing the firmware through Odin changed the CSC?
Garner said:
Thanks for the reply ?? I thought flashing the firmware through Odin changed the CSC?
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It used to, not anymore, got to use samkey now
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It used to, not anymore, got to use samkey now
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Sorry to hijack this thread. Do you know if I change the CSC to BTU if I would get Samsung pay? I bought my phone from a region that doesn't have samsung pay, but right now I'm in Canada where the banks are supported.
krusion said:
Sorry to hijack this thread. Do you know if I change the CSC to BTU if I would get Samsung pay? I bought my phone from a region that doesn't have samsung pay, but right now I'm in Canada where the banks are supported.
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Never tried myself, but I would assume so, I get Samsung pay on my BTU S20U, I think others have done exactly that for this reason too, you'd need to flash a BTU firmware too (Unless you get an OTA immediately after switching CSCs in which case there's no need)
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Never tried myself, but I would assume so, I get Samsung pay on my BTU S20U, I think others have done exactly that for this reason too, you'd need to flash a BTU firmware too (Unless you get an OTA immediately after switching CSCs in which case there's no need)
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And I can revert back without issues, correct? Assuming I wish to go back to EGY?
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And I can revert back without issues, correct? Assuming I wish to go back to EGY?
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Yes the same way you switched the first time, providing you do not upgrade to an unsupported Android version (11 is not supported right now)
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Yes the same way you switched the first time, providing you do not upgrade to an unsupported Android version (11 is not supported right now)
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Quick question since you seem to be in the UK. Do you have MST working or has it been disabled completely? I didn't know this before. That was the primary reason I was interested in samsung pay over google play. I'm not seeing anything that samsung does better over Gpay, excluding the rewards, which don't seem like much anyway to begin with.
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Quick question since you seem to be in the UK. Do you have MST working or has it been disabled completely? I didn't know this before. That was the primary reason I was interested in samsung pay over google play. I'm not seeing anything that samsung does better over Gpay, excluding the rewards, which don't seem like much anyway to begin with.
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I haven't used it, I am with Barclays and they force you to use their own app for NFC etc, they aren't even listed in the Samsung pay app, always just use my card for contactless anyway