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Holla! i'm thinking about getting the Zenfone 4GB ram variant .
but there is one thing that concern me and this is Custom ROMS
is the bootloader unlockable?
will it be possible to get CyanogenMod up and running on the device?
Not yet.
My 551ML does not show a locked bootloader, so I am able to flash a pre-rooted system.img file via fastboot. My guess is that CM and AOSP compiling will occur soonly.
mrbubs3 said:
My 551ML does not show a locked bootloader, so I am able to flash a pre-rooted system.img file via fastboot. My guess is that CM and AOSP compiling will occur soonly.
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To test whether the bootloader is locked or not, it would be a better idea to flash a custom kernel built from sources and see if it boots. According to the Asus forum (read here) the bootloader is locked and for now there is no plan to provide a way to unlock it.
rotorto said:
To test whether the bootloader is locked or not, it would be a better idea to flash a custom kernel built from sources and see if it boots. According to the Asus forum (read here) the bootloader is locked and for now there is no plan to provide a way to unlock it.
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I never understand WHY vendors like Asus, Motorola or Meizu makes ultra powerfull phones ... what we BUY for MONEY, and lock them for never let you install what you want...
I really want this phone ... but never will buy it if I can't install an AOSP custom made ROM ... (no CM, i hate it)
that why I always buyed unlocked phones like Nexus phones or my actual OnePlus One...
i hope the Lenovo K80, who will be released 30 april will be unlocked !
or the Elephone p7000 (for this, you can already find CM, AOSP, Flyme etc... roms on the OFFICIAL website !!!! )
I agree. I want to buy this phone, but I'm not going to until Asus allows to unlock the bootloader.
rotorto said:
I agree. I want to buy this phone, but I'm not going to until Asus allows to unlock the bootloader.
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and NOW i'm REALLY interrested oO
on FlipKart you can now reserve a 128Gb version !!
NEED IT, but just if the bootloader and custom roms come ....
if not, I will buy the Oppo R7 or Elephone P7000...
seriously, what it cost to Asus to unlock the bootloader ? and let owners use our phone that they buyed ....
but..
In the warrenty document over on Asus Zenfone section the following details are interesting
Unusability or damage to the Product caused by installing and using the Unlock Device App, which is a utility that will unlock your Product's boot loader but will render the warranty null and void.
The pdf file can be reviewed from the Asus website
Does this help?
SBFarooq said:
In the warrenty document over on Asus Zenfone section the following details are interesting
Unusability or damage to the Product caused by installing and using the Unlock Device App, which is a utility that will unlock your Product's boot loader but will render the warranty null and void.
The pdf file can be reviewed from the Asus website
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Odds are they were lazy and copied the warranty document over from the one for the previous Zenfone devices, which had bootloader unlock methods released by Asus. Hope they do the same with the Zenfone 2.
hmm...
But has anyone tried to unlock it by this method!
xTremePower said:
I never understand WHY vendors like Asus, Motorola or Meizu makes ultra powerfull phones ... what we BUY for MONEY, and lock them for never let you install what you want...
I really want this phone ... but never will buy it if I can't install an AOSP custom made ROM ... (no CM, i hate it)
that why I always buyed unlocked phones like Nexus phones or my actual OnePlus One...
i hope the Lenovo K80, who will be released 30 april will be unlocked !
or the Elephone p7000 (for this, you can already find CM, AOSP, Flyme etc... roms on the OFFICIAL website !!!! )
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If bootloader is unlocked by default, people who are not suitable for that will brick the phone in a higher chance, with more issue varieties which increase the cost of after sale services like maintenance. Unless there is no warranty or support for the phone after sale, vendor will not unlock the bootloader.
I am under the impression the ZE550ML zenfone 2, I have, i that the boot loader is locked.
As it is proving impossible to root it using the pre root images available.
I have 2 sets of instructions that I have followed to the exact method, yet the phone will not root !!
1) ADB sideload method, in recovery mode, choose the ADB option. Zip file is in the folder with the ADB + fastboot files.......................................message in command is "unreadable zip or not recognised'......
Checked ADB device and ADB recognises zenfone attached to computer!
2) turn phone on and have debugging set.......................(no recovery mode) place system.img into fastboot folder...........open command via the shift + right click option............submit the line 'fastboot flash system system.img.........................continuously waiting for device......nothing else
Ive never known a more difficult phone to root, especially with all the easy straight forward instructions out there to follow.
So I'm of the impression the bootloader or something is stopping root
Anyone else had the same issue?
xTremePower said:
and NOW i'm REALLY interrested oO
on FlipKart you can now reserve a 128Gb version !!
NEED IT, but just if the bootloader and custom roms come ....
if not, I will buy the Oppo R7 or Elephone P7000...
seriously, what it cost to Asus to unlock the bootloader ? and let owners use our phone that they buyed ....
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how do you buy elephone p7000 or any other OEM ?? because iam not able to buy anything outside India now. my cards are being refused. i tried everything mastercard.. visa...but no use....
actually they are planing to unlock the bootloader, some got the answer in their forums
Hi guys,
I've discovered that one of the two Mi 5s ordered has the bootloader already unlock. Bought from G******.
Original firmware 8.0.3 installed, Imei is the same of the box, as serial number.
Could it be refurbished?
Estetically is also perfect, condition as new, pretty strange to find a bootloader already unlocked, first time.
They sometimes have devices with unlocked Bootloader. I had from them Redmi 4X for testing purposes (I'm a blogger) and it also has unlocked Bootloader.
krzysiekb92 said:
They sometimes have devices with unlocked Bootloader. I had from them Redmi 4X for testing purposes (I'm a blogger) and it also has unlocked Bootloader.
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Yes, but maybe your Redmi has been already unlocked for testing purposes. Could it be?
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No, I don't think so because Mi 5s (first from them) doesn't have unlocked Bootloader. I think it's lottery.
Valeriuz said:
Hi guys,
I've discovered that one of the two Mi 5s ordered has the bootloader already unlock. Bought from G******.
Original firmware 8.0.3 installed, Imei is the same of the box, as serial number.
Could it be refurbished?
Estetically is also perfect, condition as new, pretty strange to find a bootloader already unlocked, first time.
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Usually sellers unlock phones and flash the Global Stable/Beta for European region. I think that your phone is new.
BlackJetCat said:
Usually sellers unlock phones and flash the Global Stable/Beta for European region. I think that your phone is new.
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The fact is that you don't need to unlock the bootloader to flash the Global Beta or Global/Developer China.
You just need a deep flash cable, to reach the download mode, after that you can easily flash the firmware with Mi Flash.
Still, pretty strange.
Valeriuz said:
The fact is that you don't need to unlock the bootloader to flash the Global Beta or Global/Developer China.
You just need a deep flash cable, to reach the download mode, after that you can easily flash the firmware with Mi Flash.
Still, pretty strange.
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Almost all users from 4pda said that their Mi 5S had unlocked bootloader. Usually sellers flash a global ROM port for devices without Global Beta/Stable support. I had unlocked bootloader too, MIUI 8.0.19.0.0. That a fake ROM, unofficial port of Global for Mi 5S. Usually sellers from chinese stores ( Ali*, Gear*, etc.) flash roms like this.
My only doubt is about battery, could be a old battery on a refurbished phone....
I'm thinking this because the battery of this phone is not so great, worse than my Mi 5.
I saw an international version of the ZIP package coming out. OTA cannot be upgraded directly.
What should I do?
thanks.
I prefer to FLASHthe Xiaomi International Edition ROM, which will retain more of Xiaomi's features.
newfantasy123 said:
I saw an international version of the ZIP package coming out. OTA cannot be upgraded directly.
What should I do?
thanks.
I prefer to FLASHthe Xiaomi International Edition ROM, which will retain more of Xiaomi's features.
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Unlock bootloader, flash twrp, flash the global zip mentioned several times in the forum. Better with EU chinese ROM as more features than global
Mackay53 said:
Unlock bootloader, flash twrp, flash the global zip mentioned several times in the forum. Better with EU chinese ROM as more features than global
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Thank you, but I saw the EU version of the ROM, can not re-lock the bootloader, do not know if there will be anything bad.
newfantasy123 said:
Thank you, but I saw the EU version of the ROM, can not re-lock the bootloader, do not know if there will be anything bad.
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Correct. If you try and lock the bootloader on the EU Chinese ROM or Global it's good bye phone.
If you don't unlock bootloader you'll be stuck on the Chinese ROM forever.
Mackay53 said:
Correct. If you try and lock the bootloader on the EU Chinese ROM or Global it's good bye phone.
If you don't unlock bootloader you'll be stuck on the Chinese ROM forever.
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thank you very much.
Is there any bad things after unlocking the bootloader?
newfantasy123 said:
thank you very much.
Is there any bad things after unlocking the bootloader?
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No. I've had an unlocked bootloader for about the last ten years.
Hi, I just purchased one mi mix 3 chinese version. I am new to unlocking bootloader and flashing TWRP . Can someone please point me to the correct thread that gives details on how to unlock boot loader and flash twrp.
Thanks in advance.
pangag said:
Hi, I just purchased one mi mix 3 chinese version. I am new to unlocking bootloader and flashing TWRP . Can someone please point me to the correct thread that gives details on how to unlock boot loader and flash twrp.
Thanks in advance.
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Go back to the guides, news, & discussion thread
Mackay53 said:
Go back to the guides, news, & discussion thread
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Nice Direction......
Relocking the bootloader
Question, Can I lock the bootloader after flashing the official global rom on the Chinese version? or it's also bye bye phone?
Eran baruch said:
Question, Can I lock the bootloader after flashing the official global rom on the Chinese version? or it's also bye bye phone?
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Bye bye phone
possible use gpay with global on chinese phone with unlocked bootloader?
Why would you want to lock the bootloader?
Well?
ToneLa said:
Well?
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Well what? If they want to lock the bootloader they can lock the bootloader.
That doesn't answer why! if it bricks the phone it might be useful to understand the process a bit fuller. I'm buying the Chinese version myself so want to be aware of why you'd want to lock the bootloader again
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That doesn't answer why! if it bricks the phone it might be useful to understand the process a bit fuller. I'm buying the Chinese version myself so want to be aware of why you'd want to lock the bootloader again
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Return to stock, to sell, improve security, warranty etc
You'll only brick it if you install and lock the global ROM on a Chinese device, Chinese rom on a global device, or lock on the Chinese EU ROM
Cool. So if I get the Chinese one I'll put the EU one on.
I don't think I'd need to worry about locking the bootloader for a long time. I want this phone to last a few years and it seems reliable enough. And the processes will improve all the time.
Thanks!
ToneLa said:
Why would you want to lock the bootloader?
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Locking the bootloader is for certain applications and features that requires a more "secure" phone, since an unlocked bootloader is considered not "secure".
Payment Applications, Banking Applications, and DRM applications (Netflix) and such requires the phone to have a locked bootloader, or it will not work.
LiFE1688 said:
Locking the bootloader is for certain applications and features that requires a more "secure" phone, since an unlocked bootloader is considered not "secure".
Payment Applications, Banking Applications, and DRM applications (Netflix) and such requires the phone to have a locked bootloader, or it will not work.
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Are you forgetting Magisk? I'm unlocked since surviving 72 hours of stock locked hell. All my banking apps and Google pay have worked for the past 2 months.
BTW stock Chinese or Dev or Global are garbage compared to the EU version anyways.
Unfortunately I am selling my new phone, just because its do not support rooting and unlocking so no further chances to get custom roms.
any one have any suggestions for new phone? Nokia ?
Not from Nokia for sure. HMD Global doesn't support bootloader unlocking for any devices and that's a dead end. Some can be unlocked, but the support will be nearly non-existent since there will be very few unlocked users.
Sent from my Nokia 8.1
As I remember, Nokia 8 is the only one got bootloader unlocked.
nickyip123 said:
As I remember, Nokia 8 is the only one got bootloader unlocked.
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And even that is broken
singhnsk said:
And even that is broken
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I knew Nokia 8 has BL unlocked, so I thought 8.1 would eventually got that too. That's why I bought Nokia 8.1 when it came out.
Time passed, and the fact is that I was so wrong.
is it true that relocking a unlocked bootloader erases everything, but you can re-unlock it ever again on xiaomi devices?
testask123 said:
is it true that relocking a unlocked bootloader erases everything, but you can re-unlock it ever again on xiaomi devices?
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yep i already tried it
khazzey said:
yep i already tried it
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there's no tool to re-unlock it? its forever locked?
testask123 said:
there's no tool to re-unlock it? its forever locked?
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Just use xiaomi flash tool, as it can also re-lock your bootloader.
Hi,
I am new Poco F3 owner,
I got the Amazon black Friday deal £50 off,
my variant has 8gb of rom & 256gb of ram, all this for £269.00p,
what an Amazing price and also comes with 2 years warranty here in the UK.
I have been a LG users for many years, using the (G2, G4, and for now a G7) .
I have installed many custom roms on these devices over the last 8 years.
Unlocking/locking there bootloader have been relatively straight forward.
I asking the same question that I am sure has been asked many times before,
once my 7 days are up and i have unlocked my bootloader and i then lock it again,
but then further down the line i decide to unlock it again,
do i have to wait another 7 pointless days.
I'm loving the new poco F3, apart from the firmware is a bit restrictive,
hence why I'm unlocking the bootloader.
What a great community the F3 has , long may it continue,
regards,
Johnr64
johnr64 said:
Hi,
I am new Poco F3 owner,
I got the Amazon black Friday deal £50 off,
my variant has 8gb of rom & 256gb of ram, all this for £269.00p,
what an Amazing price and also comes with 2 years warranty here in the UK.
I have been a LG users for many years, using the (G2, G4, and for now a G7) .
I have installed many custom roms on these devices over the last 8 years.
Unlocking/locking there bootloader have been relatively straight forward.
I asking the same question that I am sure has been asked many times before,
once my 7 days are up and i have unlocked my bootloader and i then lock it again,
but then further down the line i decide to unlock it again,
do i have to wait another 7 pointless days.
I'm loving the new poco F3, apart from the firmware is a bit restrictive,
hence why I'm unlocking the bootloader.
What a great community the F3 has , long may it continue,
regards,
Johnr64
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No, you only have to wait the first time.
This waiting time is not so pointless as it seems however. It is there to discourage a.o. the many traders flashing (often fake) 'global' roms on Chinese phones and selling them as genuine global models for extra profit. So in the end it's only for your protection, because flashing roms invalidates warranty.
so just to clarify there is no limit on unlocking and relocking this phone right?
testask123 said:
there's no tool to re-unlock it? its forever locked?
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xiaomi unlock tool its infinite dont worry, but be extreme cautious when you are locking your bootloader make sure your are in your right stock rom and dont forget to unlock again when you are going to flash custom roms and recovery
To lock the bootloader you can simply use "fastboot oem lock" in fastboot mode. Note that doing so will (obviously) factory reset your phone.
user0u said:
To lock the bootloader you can simply use "fastboot oem lock" in fastboot mode. Note that doing so will (obviously) factory reset your phone.
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ok, another question:
in the event where i lose my phone an unlocked bootloader can bypass any password protection if they have the knowledge right?
is there any way to protect the phone from this?
testask123 said:
ok, another question:
in the event where i lose my phone an unlocked bootloader can bypass any password protection if they have the knowledge right?
is there any way to protect the phone from this?
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If you mean screen lock, yes they can bypass it. But they cannot get into your banking apps or others which have their own passwords.
If you are really keen on it, just lock the bootloader.