So im thinking about buying a mate 20x!
As im in Hongkong i have plenty of options to consider:
1: used one (store) for 2700hkd , global. Mint condition, dont know about battery though... Could be bad, because its been on the charger constantly?
2: new global, 4700hkd,
3: new chinese, 128gb, 3700hkd.
(1000hkd is roughly 100€)
I was thinking about getting the chinese Version, because its cheaper. Also i like to tinker around with open bootloader and custom roms. Is there anyone out there though that could get Banking apps to work? (Magisk?) Does Google Pay work on the chinese version?
Is it possible to completly transform the cn version into global, with an open bootloader, so i dont run into annoying problems everyday with google services?
Or maybe just a complete custom rom?
Chrisxe said:
So im thinking about buying a mate 20x!
As im in Hongkong i have plenty of options to consider:
1: used one (store) for 2700hkd , global. Mint condition, dont know about battery though... Could be bad, because its been on the charger constantly?
2: new global, 4700hkd,
3: new chinese, 128gb, 3700hkd.
(1000hkd is roughly 100€)
I was thinking about getting the chinese Version, because its cheaper. Also i like to tinker around with open bootloader and custom roms. Is there anyone out there though that could get Banking apps to work? (Magisk?) Does Google Pay work on the chinese version?
Is it possible to completly transform the cn version into global, with an open bootloader, so i dont run into annoying problems everyday with google services?
Or maybe just a complete custom rom?
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In your situation, I would go for the Chinese, new. For that price, it worths every cent.
Periodically you can get boot unlocked code. Then you will be able to install global 2.2 rom, magisk incorporated: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ma...-mate-20-x-global00ized-2-0-emui-9-1-t3920956. It's 9.1 beta. As long as you stay rooted (magisk) you can have Google Pay operational with this method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-google-pay-gms-17-1-22-pie-t3929950.
But you may never have Q10 and beyond. Nor even 9.1 beyond beta. Huawei has implemented a new memory system erofs and installed the system as read only. There are some promising attempts to break through though.
I'd get the Chinese version local. I had the AL00 and had no problems with Google play services. For the price, I wouldn't worry about the battery too much. This phone has a couple mAh to spare....
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So my friend said he wanted a redmi note 5 pro so i said its a great phone however not thinking he would order 1 in an instant 3 days later i told him dont forget to buy the global version but it was already to late the phone was on shipped so im getting his login details to contact the seller to see if its not to late to cancel but i have a few questions.
So i know the only difference is the frequency bands but that shouldnt be an issue i live in holland and here the operators use 3 and 7 and some operators use 3 , 7 and 20 so with some operators he would only miss band 20 so that wouldnt be a huge problem.
But the phone has chinese firmware no multilanguage and nno google playstore or at least it says so in the description do i need a custom rom or could i flash miui global rom and gapps without the need of a custom rom because my friend is not very techie and i think for him it would be best to keep on to a original rom. (he doesnt know what a rom is).
Thanks in advance.
NLS4 said:
So my friend said he wanted a redmi note 5 pro so i said its a great phone however not thinking he would order 1 in an instant 3 days later i told him dont forget to buy the global version but it was already to late the phone was on shipped so im getting his login details to contact the seller to see if its not to late to cancel but i have a few questions.
So i know the only difference is the frequency bands but that shouldnt be an issue i live in holland and here the operators use 3 and 7 and some operators use 3 , 7 and 20 so with some operators he would only miss band 20 so that wouldnt be a huge problem.
But the phone has chinese firmware no multilanguage and nno google playstore or at least it says so in the description do i need a custom rom or could i flash miui global rom and gapps without the need of a custom rom because my friend is not very techie and i think for him it would be best to keep on to a original rom. (he doesnt know what a rom is).
Thanks in advance.
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Just help your friend and unlock the bootloader. Flash the global rom afterwards and it will be fine.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...dmi-note-5-china-ai-to-leaked-global-t3782175
I have the chinese version and I live in the EU too. There is a way to install play store and google play services on the chinese rom. Here is a very nice tutorial on how to do that. Also, you can delete most of the chinese bloatware, but not all.
I am currently running LineageOS and thanks to the great developers it's pretty stable and working well, but if your friend is not very techie, as you say, it would be best to skip the bootloader unlocking and stick to the chinese ROM. I don't think that it will make much of a difference.
Can this be done?... Because some vendors on Aliexpress are giving an option to have the global rom installed before they ship it out. I guess my question is, are they really installing the global rom, or just installing the google play store?
My guess is they would just install Google Play Store app.
Rebranding is nearly impossible and currently there is no established and supported procedure to rebrand the AL00 to L29.
I also saw that on Ali. Asked seller, not answered. Must be just play store (maybe some more Google apps to add, trivial). For 50usd, no sense...
Shame you can't rebrand. Anyone know the main reasons why?
i agree with the comments above, it might just be the google apps so people wont be shocked with all china stuff and no google.
rebranding needs the bootloader to be unlocked as i understood from the forum which cant happen now since huawie locked it
but would you actually buy a phone while then open it ? how would you know that its actually new and they only installed google for you ? o_o
Hi guys,
I'm thinking about buying a chinese version of the mate 20x for cheap, much cheaper than the global version. Was wondering if its possible to buy it and then install the L29 global rom. Is this possible? If so how?
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Not sure if possible, but i dont recommend to change the original rom.
Appreciate the reply. But since youre not sure, does anyone know if its still possible to do this?
From what I understand (reading this forum), this requires unlocked bootloader and root.
joarce said:
From what I understand (reading this forum), this requires unlocked bootloader and root.
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Hi.. thanks for the reply. How do I unlock the bootloader?
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Buy Chinese version with global rom. It raises price just about 35 to 50 dollars.
My suggestion
ivanox1972 said:
Buy Chinese version with global rom. It raises price just about 35 to 50 dollars.
My suggestion
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But thats the problem I want to avoid. I want to buy the chinese version without having to pay for the global rom so that i can install the global rom myself.
I will save you some trouble. I made the mistake of buying the Chinese version because I assumed the bootloader could be unlocked and the phone could be flashed. The answer to your question is, "no - you cannot root or flash the Mate 20 X as at this time".
Huawei has locked all bootloaders for all their devices and are no longer offering unlock codes. I have been unsuccessful in unlocking my EVR-AL00.
There are a few threads in this forum and there are developers looking for a workaround but there are none at this time.
I wanted to post a quick follow-up on my previous post. The Mate 20 X Chinese version is the first non-root phone I have owned in more than 10+ years. I will say, unlike my Samsung and OnePlus phones I have not found a need for root beyond changing the default launcher. The phone is customized so you can manage DPI settings (in and outside developer mode), auto launch/keep apps running in the background and even includes a good equalizer. If you have any specific questions about the Chinese model of the EVR-AL00 then feel free to PM me. I'm happy to try answering questions.
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I. The answer to your question is, "no - you cannot root or flash the Mate 20 X as at this time".
Huawei has locked all bootloaders for all their devices and are no longer offering unlock codes. I have been unsuccessful in unlocking my EVR-AL00.
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Hi dogatemycomputer,
Appreciate the heads up. But regarding rooting the mate 20x, there are threads here that show that you can root it and flash twrp. Am I missing something?
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Yes.
Regarding XDA’s stance on Huawei’s decision to stop bootloader unlocking
Back in April, Huawei’s form to request a bootloader unlock code mysteriously disappeared. Late May, the form returned but with a warning that the service would no longer work after 60 days. As promised, Huawei’s form is no longer available, meaning it’s no longer possible to unlock the bootloader of Huawei or Honor devices. This has obviously been disappointing to many users on our forums, but it’s been especially disappointing for us, the XDA Portal team.
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-huawei-decision-stop-bootloader-unlocking/amp/
Basically you could unlock the bootloader until May when Huewei decided you could no longer.
deloj said:
Hi dogatemycomputer,
Appreciate the heads up. But regarding rooting the mate 20x, there are threads here that show that you can root it and flash twrp. Am I missing something?
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If you truly had read and understood threads about this, you'd know that unlocking the bootloader is no longer possible. Huawei shut this down, unfortunately.
I researched this before purchasing, as I too wanted the least expensive version which allowed changing the default launcher. The only solution at this point is a new L29, or a used AL00 that has root. Shame that if we want to change the launcher we're limited to the 6/128 version.
joarce said:
If you truly had read and understood threads about this, you'd know that unlocking the bootloader is no longer possible. Huawei shut this down, unfortunately.
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Well i didnt. Sue me.
I researched this before purchasing, as I too wanted the least expensive version which allowed changing the default launcher. The only solution at this point is a new L29, or a used AL00 that has root. Shame that if we want to change the launcher we're limited to the 6/128 version.
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So whats the difference between the L29 and AL00 for someone to use in USA? And did you by chance install Emui 10 beta? If so let me know what you think of it.
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deloj said:
So whats the difference between the L29 and AL00 for someone to use in USA? And did you by chance install Emui 10 beta? If so let me know what you think of it.
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1. Broken Google Location History & Sharing
2. No access to EMUI 10 beta
I use the Chinese version and there are some minor differences between the Global and Chinese version but the Chinese version has worked well for me.
Some Google services do not work. The two I have found are OK GOOGLE (always listening) and location sharing via Google Maps.
Outside of these 2 limitations I have not found a difference between the stock Chinese and Global versions. I have been very happy with my Mate 20 X and I have not found a reason to root the phone.
dogatemycomputer said:
I use the Chinese version and there are some minor differences between the Global and Chinese version but the Chinese version has worked well for me.
Some Google services do not work. The two I have found are OK GOOGLE (always listening) and location sharing via Google Maps.
Outside of these 2 limitations I have not found a difference between the stock Chinese and Global versions. I have been very happy with my Mate 20 X and I have not found a reason to root the phone.
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Thanks for your input. I think rooting may be overrated unless you install roms. But even then most roms have issues which convinces me personally to stick with stock.
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I have no issues with Ok Google or location sharing via Google Maps. My AL00 is on Emui 10.0 & works perfectly, i’m in Europe btw. Of course, the big difference is when factory restoring must install manually the google apps like Play Store, Maps, Google Photos, Chrome, and so on. Otherwise i see no difference between global and chinese version.
solution chinese to global rom
for all those looking for solution to change firmware from Chinese to global, search on Facebook for ministryofsolutions. he can donthe job at minimum costs. had mine changed today, very happy.
I also can.
oslo83 said:
I also can.
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Can you change my Huawei mate Xs from Chinese to global? I'd pay you if you can do it
One of our Chineese suppliers has gifted me a New Fold 3. The issue is the stock Chinese Rom, or rather the restrictions that come with it (nerfing most google based services, and apps i use all the time.). The device is great but restrictions applied give you a feeling of a second class android user, with core sevices absent: Play store, youtube, gmail, maps, chrome, android auto., can't even apporve family link download requests from kids. etc. etc.
I have made the choice i would rather go back to my S21 if i can't resovle this issue, as phone is useless like this.
Advice required on Loading Australian Rom via odin.
The phone model is: SM-F9260 which only seems to have overseas Rom available for download. Can i successfully load a ROM made for model SM-F926B (Australian) on a SM-F9260?
All the how to guides specifically say jou must select the same model number, and i don't want a brick it. Will have mud on my face next time i see the supplier if i have bricked their gift to me.
Any feedback/advice from users with more experience with odin and flashing would be appreciated.
Both are on Snapdragon CPU so shouldn't be any problem to flash it with PIT over the Odin.
But I never done it so I can't give you 100% answer.
streinhardt said:
One of our Chineese suppliers has gifted me a New Fold 3. The issue is the stock Chinese Rom, or rather the restrictions that come with it (nerfing most google based services, and apps i use all the time.). The device is great but restrictions applied give you a feeling of a second class android user, with core sevices absent: Play store, youtube, gmail, maps, chrome, android auto., can't even apporve family link download requests from kids. etc. etc.
I have made the choice i would rather go back to my S21 if i can't resovle this issue, as phone is useless like this.
Advice required on Loading Australian Rom via odin.
The phone model is: SM-F9260 which only seems to have overseas Rom available for download. Can i successfully load a ROM made for model SM-F926B (Australian) on a SM-F9260?
All the how to guides specifically say jou must select the same model number, and i don't want a brick it. Will have mud on my face next time i see the supplier if i have bricked their gift to me.
Any feedback/advice from users with more experience with odin and flashing would be appreciated.
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Update: The AU version gave me an Auth Failed in Odin. Chances i could have resovled by unlocking the Bootloader which i didn't want to risk tripping the e-fuse. I ended up just using the Taiwan version which had the identical model number, and falls in the same region as China. Odin flashed without complaint. The taiwan version has no restrictions on google services, and once you set the language its hard to tell it from a regular AU one; unless you know what you are looking for that is.
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Update: The AU version gave me an Auth Failed in Odin. Chances i could have resovled by unlocking the Bootloader which i didn't want to risk tripping the e-fuse. I ended up just using the Taiwan version which had the identical model number, and falls in the same region as China. Odin falshed without complaint. The taiwan version has no restritions on google services, and once you set the language its hard to tell it from a regular AU one; unless you know what you are looking for that is.
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it's unfortunate currently there is no solution to flash variant
jemfalor said:
it's unfortunate currently there is no solution to flash variant
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Technically there are ways, just it is very grey as to when/how you trip the e-fuse. Some say if you simply unlock the bootloader and restart, others say when you load a bootloader that doesn't match model numbers, or is older than your current, or isn't offical samsung one. I personally don't know exactly. I do however know that i didn't trip the e-fuse when i loaded the taiwan version, and i didn't have to unlock the bootloader in developer options to achevie this.
streinhardt said:
Technically there are ways, just it is very grey as to when/how you trip the e-fuse. Some say if you simply unlock the bootloader and restart, others say when you load a bootloader that doesn't match model numbers, or is older than your current, or isn't offical samsung one. I personally don't know exactly. I do however know that i didn't trip the e-fuse when i loaded the taiwan version, and i didn't have to unlock the bootloader in developer options to achevie this.
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nope. I've tried. unlocked bootloader still won't allow you to flash variant
jemfalor said:
nope. I've tried. unlocked bootloader still won't allow you to flash variant
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oh. Good to know. Just wondering..Did you trip your e-fuse? If so when did it happen? Did you try extracting the PIT file from the CSC and using the PIT tab in odin? with the re-parition option selected?
streinhardt said:
oh. Good to know. Just wondering..Did you trip your e-fuse? If so when did it happen? Did you try extracting the PIT file from the CSC and using the PIT tab in odin? with the re-parition option selected?
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you won't have the chance to trip. there is some check before the boot image is integrated. so it failed showing some error, auth or secure check failed etc etc.
if you flash variant home csc you will trip
TBH, I consider the Chinese version is the best version above all other region. The dual sim is enable on Chinese version, 512GB is the only available option.
As for google service. You don't need to change the Chinese firmware to Australian to enable it, the GMS is pre-installed. All you need to do is to find a way to install the google series apps as apk by yourself, it would work just fine.
tony_peng said:
TBH, I consider the Chinese version is the best version above all other region. The dual sim is enable on Chinese version, 512GB is the only available option.
As for google service. You don't need to change the Chinese firmware to Australian to enable it, the GMS is pre-installed. All you need to do is to find a way to install the google series apps as apk by yourself, it would work just fine.
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BTW, the only version that Chinese region Fold 3 can change is the HongKong firmware, all other regions are not available. If you use Chinese region Fold 3 in Australia, the only thing you need to concern is the Samsung Pay, but Samsung Pay is fixed by the region and cannot be changed by switching the regional firmware.
tony_peng said:
TBH, I consider the Chinese version is the best version above all other region. The dual sim is enable on Chinese version, 512GB is the only available option.
As for google service. You don't need to change the Chinese firmware to Australian to enable it, the GMS is pre-installed. All you need to do is to find a way to install the google series apps as apk by yourself, it would work just fine.
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Each to their own, if you like the chinese version great. I hated it, restrictions in every aspect of the firmware. I personally am unsure how you rate the chinese version better, when it is loaded with restrictions and hard coded settings that can't be changed, or if they can it is really a sub par workaround. Settings that are not present in standard android builds. What exactly does it have extra that makes it better? If you like it thou that is all that matters.
I loaded the taiwan version which yes is really just the hong kong version. No restrictions, no issues. Now it works just like any other standard samsung android build, you get in AU. Yes samsung pay that use the firmware version doesn't work great, but i prefer google pay anyway. No need to stuff around with downloading apk files from third party sites, for core functions. No need to even enable developer tools.
The chinese version sounds like driving a ferrari on a go karting track.....
Can you flash the Chinese or any international dual sim version to work in the US ?
hi
please tell me the difference between Chinese and global versions.
oneplus 11
authorized store told me that
China version is Global ROM.
Factory will open the box to install Global ROM(Oxygen OS ),multi-language and Google Play, and then, reseal it before delivery.
It supports Google Service, Multi-languages and OTA update.
Is it safe to buy the chinese version after these modifications?
No, it's not safe.
Future updates may brick your device, wipe your IMEI numbers or not install at all.
There's region call locking.
Swapping ROM gives the person who does that full access to your device.
It's best to buy a global version or a Chinese version with the original ROM.
birdie said:
No, it's not safe.
Future updates may brick your device, wipe your IMEI numbers or not install at all.
There's region call locking.
Swapping ROM gives the person who does that full access to your device.
It's best to buy a global version or a Chinese version with the original ROM.
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Ok, thanks for replying.
What are the differences between Chinese and global rom?
Will I will be able to install Google and its apps normally?
birdie said:
No, it's not safe.
Future updates may brick your device, wipe your IMEI numbers or not install at all.
There's region call locking.
Swapping ROM gives the person who does that full access to your device.
It's best to buy a global version or a Chinese version with the original ROM.
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Oneplus official store reply.
Hi Dear Customer,
Thanks for contacting us.
We are the official flagship store of One Plus, and our product modification is approved and guided by the factory, so it is very safe, so you can rest assured to buy it.
Thanks for your kind understanding and waiting .
Feel free to contact us if any other questions.
Best wishes,
Karl
birdie said:
No, it's not safe.
Future updates may brick your device, wipe your IMEI numbers or not install at all.
There's region call locking.
Swapping ROM gives the person who does that full access to your device.
It's best to buy a global version or a Chinese version with the original ROM.
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China version is Global ROM.
Factory will open the box to install Global ROM(Oxygen OS ),multi-language and Google Play, and then, reseal it before delivery.
It supports Google Service, Multi-languages and OTA update.
I received this update from oneplus authorized store on Aliexpress.
mr.shoman said:
China version is Global ROM.
Factory will open the box to install Global ROM(Oxygen OS ),multi-language and Google Play, and then, reseal it before delivery.
It supports Google Service, Multi-languages and OTA update.
I received this update from oneplus authorized store on Aliexpress.
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It is not official and you don't have 100% warranty that it will work in the future. It's the AE seller own modification.
Either buy original China version with ColorOS or buy officially device meant for different region with Oxygen OS.
mr.shoman said:
China version is Global ROM.
Factory will open the box to install Global ROM(Oxygen OS ),multi-language and Google Play, and then, reseal it before delivery.
It supports Google Service, Multi-languages and OTA update.
I received this update from oneplus authorized store on Aliexpress.
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OnePlus authorized store on AliExpress has nothing to do with BBK/Oppo/OnePlus. This is not an official answer either. If you want to save $40 and have major issues later on - be my guest. Considering the price of the device it would be quite an irrational decision.
And, no, OnePlus does not welcome swapping ROMs from different regions. They've gone to great lengths to disable it or make it extremely complicated.
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OnePlus authorized store on AliExpress has nothing to do with BBK/Oppo/OnePlus. This is not an official answer either. If you want to save $40 and have major issues later on - be my guest. Considering the price of the device it would be quite an irrational decision.
And, no, OnePlus does not welcome swapping ROMs from different regions. They've gone to great lengths to disable it or make it extremely complicated.
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So, I should not consider the price and buy the global version. As I don't like to consume time to modify the phone, I really don't have much time for that. I need something straightforward.
mr.shoman said:
So, I should not consider the price and buy the global version. As I don't like to consume time to modify the phone, I really don't have much time for that. I need something straightforward.
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That's weird also, how the official store give a misleading information or unclear about chinese version issues. I'm a little bit surprised.
mr.shoman said:
That's weird also, how the official store give a misleading information or unclear about chinese version issues. I'm a little bit surprised.
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They are a trader/seller. Nothing is surprising.
mr.shoman said:
That's weird also, how the official store give a misleading information or unclear about chinese version issues. I'm a little bit surprised.
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It's not an official store...
Just because some trader names their store "official flagship whatever store" does not mean it's true.
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