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Greetings! I'm getting conflicting information if this is actually working or not on AT&T network. Anyone have this working?
A recent news article mentions that AT&T has approved NFC on one x, but chatting with a AT&T Store Manager mentions NFC is still disabled for all devices... Can anyone confirm or deny? Any work arounds?
Thanks in advance!
You want this forum. This is the international One X forum and the AT&T one isn't the same. The AT&T One X is actually the "One XL" but they annoyingly called it the One X as well. The baseband, CPU and GPU are different in the One XL.
i have the international X model and it's on the ATT network, so this is in the right place. it's also been discussed already in topics about NFC and Google Wallet. i can vouch that it does not work with an ATT sim and it does not work with a Straight Talk sim. it's nice of them to list a feature that most people can't even use. they shouldn't even mention NFC on these phones if we can't use it properly. i'm not buying a bunch of tags to play with. that's not the point of NFC.
brent8577 said:
i have the international X model and it's on the ATT network, so this is in the right place. it's also been discussed already in topics about NFC and Google Wallet. i can vouch that it does not work with an ATT sim and it does not work with a Straight Talk sim. it's nice of them to list a feature that most people can't even use. they shouldn't even mention NFC on these phones if we can't use it properly. i'm not buying a bunch of tags to play with. that's not the point of NFC.
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Nfc works fine on the international version on ATT. The carrier can't affect that unless they have a say in your rom. Since you don't get updates touched by ATT it's a non issue.
Google Wallet on the other hand doesn't work on the One X. This isn't a carrier issue. Complain to Google to authorize the device.
You can say what you like, but "the point" of nfc isn't Google Wallet. The point is NFC. Mobile payments are coming in the form of Isis wallet, carrier specific wallets, MasterCard now is developing a mobile payment system with nfc as well as google wallet. This is all a ways off though.
Don't purchase an emerging technology and then wine that you aren't surrounded with use cases. If you want to move to India or Japan they are much further forward in deploying nfc than the US.
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krohnjw said:
The carrier can't affect that unless they have a say in your rom. Since you don't get updates touched by ATT it's a non issue
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This isn't true. The carrier and Google have to have an agreement in place on a per device basis to use Google Wallet which is what most people in the U.S. relate to NFC. Under pressure, AT&T authorized the Nexi. They are the only devices allowed by AT&T to access Google Wallet via their network. And Google Wallet requires a carrier connection, it doesn't work over Wi-Fi.
There are hacks to spoof the network and in some cases you can even gain (unsecured) access to some of the features. But if you screw up the security token on your phone (which quite a few people have done) you'll never be able to use it with a payment system again and there is no recovery available.
NFC as a means of communication is very different than using it in conjunction with a payment system.
krohnjw said:
Nfc works fine on the international version on ATT. The carrier can't affect that unless they have a say in your rom. Since you don't get updates touched by ATT it's a non issue.
Google Wallet on the other hand doesn't work on the One X. This isn't a carrier issue. Complain to Google to authorize the device.
You can say what you like, but "the point" of nfc isn't Google Wallet. The point is NFC. Mobile payments are coming in the form of Isis wallet, carrier specific wallets, MasterCard now is developing a mobile payment system with nfc as well as google wallet. This is all a ways off though.
Don't purchase an emerging technology and then wine that you aren't surrounded with use cases. If you want to move to India or Japan they are much further forward in deploying nfc than the US.
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thanks for your wonderful attitude. take your meds. explain to me the usefulness of nfc then. also i complained to google on play reviews for wallet. this forum is flooded with idiots. i should get a phone nobody is using or stop reading you people and just go to the dev threads.
BarryH_GEG said:
This isn't true. The carrier and Google have to have an agreement in place on a per device basis to use Google Wallet which is what most people in the U.S. relate to NFC. Under pressure, AT&T authorized the Nexi. They are the only devices allowed by AT&T to access Google Wallet via their network. And Google Wallet requires a carrier connection, it doesn't work over Wi-Fi.
There are hacks to spoof the network and in some cases you can even gain (unsecured) access to some of the features. But if you screw up the security token on your phone (which quite a few people have done) you'll never be able to use it with a payment system again and there is no recovery available.
NFC as a means of communication is very different than using it in conjunction with a payment system.
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NFC != Google Wallet. The fact remains ATT can't disable NFC on a device they have no control over. Google Wallet is an app the leverages NFC.
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brent8577 said:
thanks for your wonderful attitude. take your meds. explain to me the usefulness of nfc then. also i complained to google on play reviews for wallet. this forum is flooded with idiots. i should get a phone nobody is using or stop reading you people and just go to the dev threads.
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Speak for yourself before you dish out insults. Your phone has NFC and it WORKS. Google Wallet doesn't work by NFC DOES.
AT&T can NOT stop you from using NFC as a whole but they can stop you from using an app like Google Wallet that requires NFC.
NFC has always worked on your phone, you just think that means you can use Google Wallet when it doesn't.
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NFC payment did not work using Google wallet on SG3 for me. I have not tried to purchase anything yet using Android pay but curious if it would be different than GW. I don't know if it was hardware or software that prevented payments previously on GW.
I doubt that I would use it often because swiping my card is just as fast.
I didn't see anything about eligible devices on support page.
Can anyone try to pay with NFC, like android pay or some bank app??
I cannot, and SAT told me that there is no issue founded...
I've payed already a few times with my own bank app, but it seems that the NFC antenna is a bit lower than normal... In most phones it would be around the camera, in this phone I've place like the are of the fingerprint scanner/middle of the phone in the terminals with small connection areas.
My model is the European one.
What country are you in?
Im using Android Pay without issues.
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I'm in the US and use AP frequently. The NFC seems to be near the fingerprint scanner, so don't tap the top of the device, other then that works fine for me.
I have the same issue. I can't pay with nfc.
mariomsg1 said:
Can anyone try to pay with NFC, like android pay or some bank app??
I cannot, and SAT told me that there is no issue founded...
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Have you found the issue? I have the same problem. NFC works, but paying with the phone does not work.
I have now found the solution. It was the NFC SIM Card from Vodafone. This has completely disrupted the internal NFC. Have now ordered a new SIM without NFC and used.
The G-Pay payment works fine now.
Can you confirm for the vodafone nfc sim. ? I have also vodafone but with my previous Galaxy S9+ I didnt have any problem with the payments using my bank app! Very frustrated and dissapointing from LG
guys, i´ve talked today with vodafone Germany and they said they just have nfc sim Cards.
the dude told me to turn off nfc on my phone and try it again. Maybe that will work. try it again tomorrow but somehow i don´t believe him...
Hi. Did anyone pay with Mastercard credit card via NFC?My bank say LG G7 don't have certification from MasterCard company and I can't check this information because MasterCard heritage me to bank.And I found last document with certified phones from 2017
Sorry for my English
Use.googel.oay with two mastercard and with my bank app. No problem att all.
Make sure u pass safty-net
Xposed and Somtime root brakes it. Even crossflash
No problem paying with Google Pay and Maestro card.
Yannis72 said:
Can you confirm for the vodafone nfc sim. ? I have also vodafone but with my previous Galaxy S9+ I didnt have any problem with the payments using my bank app! Very frustrated and dissapointing from LG
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Not an lg problem! NFC works perfectly.
Anybody with LM-G710EM? Bank say, support for LM-G710TM,for my LM-G710EM don't
I have LM-G710EM and no problem paying with NFC.
Thanks,this confirms that no problem with phone,but problem is thinking of developer which add support for phone dedicated for US and don't for global version
macejd said:
I have LM-G710EM and no problem paying with NFC.
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And anybody with LM-G710EM and MasterCard?
NFC "Tap and Pay" In-Store Payment Ability Removed by Google since 2014 [Confirmed]
T-Mobile Galaxy Note 3 and variants w/ same NFC chip:
NO In-Store NFC Payment Capability Since 2014One of the factors for which I decided to purchase a Note 3 was its NFC feature. I recall the mention of "at-register payments" and Tap and Pay. I have lived a good chunk of my Note 3 modding time around the idea of having working NFC for two reasons, 1) the prospect of using the NFC writer (functional) and 2) in-store at-register/terminal payments.
To my great long-term disappointment, it is simply not possible with the on-board NFC chip. The reason is that the NFC chip on these Note 3 variants just missed the mark for the new security standards rolled out with the KitKat updates. NFC has multiple standards. The NFC hardware in these Note 3 variants does not have Host Card Emulation (HCE) ability. Google removed the Android Pay compatibility with most of the Galaxy Note 3's in 2014.
Samsung says that the Note 3 can make at-register payments with a special SIM. These seem to be scarce in 2019, but I could be wrong.
Also, the T-Mobile Note 3 NFC chip will not work on Marshallow or above, and will not work on any kernel except for kernels compiled for the "T-Mobile Note 3", no matter if the ROM Dev says "everything is working fine!" in his/her first post. Just do an in-thread search for "NFC" and feel disappointed in much less time that it took me. :crying:
I have read of a couple of instances where people where able to use an NFC/SIM combo on an AT&T Note 3. This dual NFC/SIM card has a "Secured Element". But those seem to be rare these days, and at such a point, you may just want to consider a newer phone (I wish I knew all of this 5 weeks ago).
Summary:
Nice Screen
Great Phone
No In-Store NFC Payments
and
NFC will only work on a real T-Mobile Note 3 kernel
which means Lollipop or below
References:
https://www.samsung.com/nz/support/mobile-devices/nfc-is-not-working-on-my-galaxy-note-3/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/help/galaxy-note-3-battery-nfc-change-t3624149
https://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3/579522-android-pay-note-3-a.html
https://forums.androidcentral.com/v...3/512346-mobile-payment-options-note-3-a.html
https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/nfc/hce
Does anyone have Samsung pay working on there A70 in Canada? I am on the bell network and it keeps coming up that my device is not compatible in the galaxy store?
Same here
Same as I'm seeing as Samsung Pay, GPay and others won't work. I am on Freedom Mobile and Rogers (personal and work sims). I can't even install Samsung Pay, GPay installs but just does not work.
I did get RBC Wallet to work, so if your bank has their own app then that might be the method to get NFC payments working.
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Same as I'm seeing as Samsung Pay, GPay and others won't work. I am on Freedom Mobile and Rogers (personal and work sims). I can't even install Samsung Pay, GPay installs but just does not work.
I did get RBC Wallet to work, so if your bank has their own app then that might be the method to get NFC payments working.
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Thanks for the reply...
I am on Koodo with an a70 and gpay works with no issues
Bad News..
mordenk said:
Does anyone have Samsung pay working on there A70 ? it keeps coming up device is not compatible?
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It's Ironic...
S-Pay is one of the reasons I purchased the A70..
SM-A705MN VERSIONS OUT OF LATIN AMERICA *DO HAVE THE CORRECT RADIO BANDS FOR 4G LTE IN THE UNITED STATES* 1,2,4,5,8,12,66..
BUT THIS VERSION *** WILL NOT*** WORK WITH SAMSUNG PAY
As it is "Out Of Region"... In The United States.. No Matter What You Do.
OP,
I thought I would just piggyback off your thread instead of starting a new one.... hope that's ok.. :angel:
Sorry you are having the same trouble in Canada.. I am still in my "Honeymoon Period" and can return my unit.. I'm in the middle of assessing whether it's viable to keep my unit based on where I shop...
Samsung Pay works EVERYWHERE here in the U.S.. So I need to really assess whether Google Pay / Walmart Pay cover enough of the merchants I frequent the most or just move over to a Country Specific Galaxy device.. :fingers-crossed:
It's Almost 2020....
Tap-And-Go is the way to go for this era...
Safer... Faster... Better IMO..
RaiderWill said:
It's Ironic...
S-Pay is one of the reasons I purchased the A70..
SM-A705MN VERSIONS OUT OF LATIN AMERICA *DO HAVE THE CORRECT RADIO BANDS FOR 4G LTE IN THE UNITED STATES* 1,2,4,5,8,12,66..
BUT THIS VERSION *** WILL NOT*** WORK WITH SAMSUNG PAY
As it is "Out Of Region"... In The United States.. No Matter What You Do.
OP,
I thought I would just piggyback off your thread instead of starting a new one.... hope that's ok.. :angel:
Sorry you are having the same trouble in Canada.. I am still in my "Honeymoon Period" and can return my unit.. I'm in the middle of assessing whether it's viable to keep my unit based on where I shop...
Samsung Pay works EVERYWHERE here in the U.S.. So I need to really assess whether Google Pay / Walmart Pay cover enough of the merchants I frequent the most or just move over to a Country Specific Galaxy device.. :fingers-crossed:
It's Almost 2020....
Tap-And-Go is the way to go for this era...
Safer... Faster... Better IMO..
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Samsung pay was one of the factors to me for upgrading to the A70. I was thinking of flashing the Canadian software for the A705W via Odin but I am pretty sure that won't help.
Fill Me In..
mordenk said:
Samsung pay was one of the factors to me for upgrading to the A70. I was thinking of flashing the Canadian software for the A705W via Odin but I am pretty sure that won't help.
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Please Fill In Some Blanks For Me If You Don't Mind..
So.. you are in Canada, and they have a version of the A70 ( The A705W you mentioned ) that is native to that region and it comes with Samsung Pay already installed?
If that's the case.. may I ask, are you a transplant to that region? why did you not buy a SM-A705W from the start?
I may be *100% Wrong*.... but after my MANY conversations with Samsung Pay Tech Support they said there was no way around it.. that, there are enough Red Flags that a device knows its not in it's intended region and will not allow you to setup Samsung Pay in a different region than where the device was meant to be sold.
S-Pay would not even show up in the Playstore.. Google's or Samsung's for me. I sideloaded it.. older versions.. older framework.. Nada.... Nothing.
But I No Longer Care..
I went out today and tried Google Pay for the 1st time...
YES!!!! :highfive:
"EVERYPLACE " I shop.. Google Pay works! Even the Gas Pumps.. :good:
So that confirms for me that I'm keeping the A70... Now, Stereo Speakers are the only thing I feel is missing but Bluetooth earbuds and some 3.5mm stereo computer speakers in the garage really negate that final complaint.. So, I'm good with what the A70 brings to the table.. Battery and Screen are simply incredible for me.. Fingerprint Recognition is a non-issue on my unit.. as are Ghost Touches.. Face unlock is INSTANTANEOUS . :angel:
Final Question.. It's been so long since I've used Odin.. ( not since 2016 when I murdered my Note 4..) I can't remember... can you flash one software version over another without Root Access? if you can, then what you propose is most certainly worth a try.
But if you need Root Access to switch software versions.. you know you will trip Knox... and you will FOREVER loose the ability to use Samsung Pay..
I hope all works out for you!
Please comeback to this thread and keep us updated! :good:
RaiderWill said:
Please Fill In Some Blanks For Me If You Don't Mind..
So.. you are in Canada, and they have a version of the A70 ( The A705W you mentioned ) that is native to that region and it comes with Samsung Pay already installed?
If that's the case.. may I ask, are you a transplant to that region? why did you not buy a SM-A705W from the start?
I may be *100% Wrong*.... but after my MANY conversations with Samsung Pay Tech Support they said there was no way around it.. that, there are enough Red Flags that a device knows its not in it's intended region and will not allow you to setup Samsung Pay in a different region than where the device was meant to be sold.
S-Pay would not even show up in the Playstore.. Google's or Samsung's for me. I sideloaded it.. older versions.. older framework.. Nada.... Nothing.
But I No Longer Care..
I went out today and tried Google Pay for the 1st time...
YES!!!! :highfive:
"EVERYPLACE " I shop.. Google Pay works! Even the Gas Pumps.. :good:
So that confirms for me that I'm keeping the A70... Now, Stereo Speakers are the only thing I feel is missing but Bluetooth earbuds and some 3.5mm stereo computer speakers in the garage really negate that final complaint.. So, I'm good with what the A70 brings to the table.. Battery and Screen are simply incredible for me.. Fingerprint Recognition is a non-issue on my unit.. as are Ghost Touches.. Face unlock is INSTANTANEOUS . :angel:
Final Question.. It's been so long since I've used Odin.. ( not since 2016 when I murdered my Note 4..) I can't remember... can you flash one software version over another without Root Access? if you can, then what you propose is most certainly worth a try.
But if you need Root Access to switch software versions.. you know you will trip Knox... and you will FOREVER loose the ability to use Samsung Pay..
I hope all works out for you!
Please comeback to this thread and keep us updated! :good:
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Ok very valid points here. I did not buy the Canadian Variant as the A705W is $699 CND from the carriers here in Canada. I bought my 705MN unlocked from Amazon for $429 CND.
I have not used ODIN or rooted a phone since my S7 edge. I have yet to confirm if Samsung pay works on the Canadian variant or not. I asked a bell salesman and I got 2 different answers one yes and one no lol.
You are 100% correct that if Knox is tripped even flashing back to stock won't bring Samsung pay back (learned the hard way on my S7 edge).
I am loving the A70 as it is a nice upgrade in my opinion from my S7 edge. Only 3 down falls I have with the phone. Two are the same as you...No Samsung pay...no stereo speakers and no IP rating...other than that I love this device.
Excellent Price You Scored!
mordenk said:
I did not buy the Canadian Variant as the A705W is $699 CND from the carriers here in Canada. I bought my 705MN unlocked from Amazon for $429 CND.
I am loving the A70 as it is a nice upgrade in my opinion from my S7 edge..
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I'd Say You Saved A Couple Of Pennies vs Going For The "W" Variant..
Hopefully.. going *Price vs Satisfaction* does not leave you with any remorse.
Honestly.. I know nothing of Canada.. Is there no way Google Pay is a Go up that way?
That's the ONLY thing that swayed the tide as far as me keeping this device.
I don't care about root anymore and it appears between Samsung's Lock on SD SoC's and Developers skipping this device at it's price point..Custom anything may be a No-Go.
So, with the A70's features and Good Lock and (for me) Superb Battery Life.. Widevine L1 and not forgettting G-Pay :good: I'm a happy camper.
At Least.. Until Black Friday / Cyber Monday...
RaiderWill said:
I'd Say You Saved A Couple Of Pennies vs Going For The "W" Variant..
Hopefully.. going *Price vs Satisfaction* does not leave you with any remorse.
Honestly.. I know nothing of Canada.. Is there no way Google Pay is a Go up that way?
That's the ONLY thing that swayed the tide as far as me keeping this device.
I don't care about root anymore and it appears between Samsung's Lock on SD SoC's and Developers skipping this device at it's price point..Custom anything may be a No-Go.
So, with the A70's features and Good Lock and (for me) Superb Battery Life.. Widevine L1 and not forgettting G-Pay :good: I'm a happy camper.
At Least.. Until Black Friday / Cyber Monday...
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Samsung pay does work here in Canada on all samsung flasgships from S7 up. Unfortunately not on the A70 I guess. I am going to look into Gpay as I hate carrying both a wallet and cell phone all the time lol... phone prices here in Canada are just ridiculous. A new S10+ is $1499 ( from carriers). I am hoping to get a good solid year out of this phone then I may just bite the bullet and go for a Note 10 or Note 11 by that time.
It does now
Samsung a70s Samsung pay is now available in the galaxy store.... It's not available in the Google Play as of yet.
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I am on Koodo with an a70 and gpay works with no issues
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What is your exact model number
SM-A705W
I have a Canadian A70 and I use Samsung Pay. You have to sideload the app though. Get it from apkmirror, along with Samsung Pay Framework so it's all up to date.
While you're at it, get Samsung Internet Browser from there as well. I honestly don't know why Samsung region locks so many of their apps or doesn't update the ones that are already in the device.
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Samsung pay does work here in Canada on all samsung flasgships from S7 up. Unfortunately not on the A70 I guess. I am going to look into Gpay as I hate carrying both a wallet and cell phone all the time lol...
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Were you able to get Google Pay working on your 705MN model in Canada?
Yes my bank does have an app and it works with NFC just fine. I don't understand why Samsung Pay isn't implemented on this model.
xomikron said:
Yes my bank does have an app and it works with NFC just fine. I don't understand why Samsung Pay isn't implemented on this model.
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Samsung is particularly picky in allowing which of its phones access to Samsung Pay. If your phone isn't intended to be sold in your region(eg you're in Canada but using a Latin American A705MN model), then you won't be able to use Samsung Pay. Only if you had the Canadian specific A705W model would you then be allowed access to Samsung Pay.
I know it's very weird and anti consumer decision but Samsung does this to make the local wireless providers happy.
btw; which model do you have and what's your home country?
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Samsung is particularly picky in allowing which of its phones access to Samsung Pay. If your phone isn't intended to be sold in your region(eg you're in Canada but using a Latin American A705MN model), then you won't be able to use Samsung Pay. Only if you had the Canadian specific A705W model would you then be allowed access to Samsung Pay.
I know it's very weird and anti consumer decision but Samsung does this to make the local wireless providers happy.
btw; which model do you have and what's your home country?
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The international version (FN). I live in Portugal ??