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Has anyone switched from the S7or S7 Edge to the OnePlus 3? I am considering it simply because of the lack of root. If someone can give suggestions that has used both devices, i would appreciate it. Thanks.
I own both devices. I haven't decided yet which one to keep. The One Plus 3 is definitely a better value.
The camera and screen are definitely nicer on S7 Edge.
I own the AT&T S7 Edge and wished I had purchased the international version.
Honestly, you won't go wrong with either.
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Scuk said:
Has anyone switched from the S7or S7 Edge to the OnePlus 3? I am considering it simply because of the lack of root. If someone can give suggestions that has used both devices, i would appreciate it. Thanks.
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I can't imagine many people doing that.
I did and its amazing.. I had the S7 Edge with Exynos. Between the S7 Edge and OP3 I have had the Huawei P9 Chinese (AL10) and even the P9 performs better than the S7 Edge.. but OP3 rocks all away.. AnTuTu with around 142k, P9 have 99k, only S7 I forgot..
I had some big problems on the S7 Edge with the Edges, they didn´t recognized, even with the actual firmware.. that was the reason t oswitch to the P9.. but I´m still not 100% happy.. the OP3 seems to fix this for me.. I´m totally happy for now
Fixed the RAM issue..
Maybe I can update my experiences in a few days more detailed
Me. I loved the Edge but that split second Samsung lag was getting beyond annoying. Also the fingerprint reader on the OP3 feels 3 classes above
I have too. I took many pictures side by side and there was very little difference that I could tell. I will miss the waterproofing and the bigger battery but I never used the edge features and the ability to root and get a decent tempered glass screen swung it for me. That and I got an extra £150 in my back pocket
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Me. I loved the Edge but that split second Samsung lag was getting beyond annoying. Also the fingerprint reader on the OP3 feels 3 classes above
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Mmmmh, my advise to the OP ... don't believe everything you read here ... .
S7Edge user here (Exynos version). - Display, Water/Dust Resistance, Battery ... to name just a few. Not much of a comparison. Then add a likely superior camera/video performance, expandable storage, wireless charging, better headphone sound (Exynos version) ... looks (subjective).
Still, all this comes at a price and Touch Whizz is arguably not the most favourite interface but its perfectly workable and the end result is very, very good.
I am not arguing about the value of the Oneplus 3 and I am considering one to replace my Elephone P9000 as a second (work) phone but not until they (OnePlus3) have attempted to fix the display on the 3. However, that may or may not be technically possible.
I tried to post a link to an in-depth technical review of the 3 on here but the mods deleted it. You can find it on Anandtech's website, published today.
So, personally I'd unquestionably hang on to your S7E!
IF you had the US galaxy s7 edge (i have a t-mobile version) then you'd probably feel good about the switch to Oneplus 3.
These are the things I don't miss - from the s7
- poor battery life on the Snapdragon version
- samsung UI lag and the fact that I have to disable nearly every bloat to get the device to a decent working state
- locked bootloader and no end in sight for root availability
- regret of not buying the exynos variant
Things i actually miss:
- Stellar low light camera
- F**kin amazing low light and indoor pictures
- may be that marginal flexibility of being cool about not charging it overnight.
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Mmmmh, my advise to the OP ... don't believe everything you read here ... .
S7Edge user here (Exynos version). - Display, Water/Dust Resistance, Battery ... to name just a few. Not much of a comparison. Then add a likely superior camera/video performance.
Still, all this comes at a price and Touch Whizz is arguably not the most favourite interface but its perfectly workable and the end result is very, very good.
I am not arguing about the value of the Oneplus 3 and I am considering one to replace my Elephone P9000 as a second (work) phone but not until they (OnePlus3) have attempted to fix the display on the 3. However, that may or may not be technically possible.
I tried to post a link to an in-depth technical review of the 3 on here but the mods deleted it. You can find it on Anandtech's website, published today.
So, personally I'd unquestionably hang on to your S7E!
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I have both devices. Just being honest.
Even after disabling packages it lags, which is s shame. Battery is amazing though. Owned it since release, ebaying it this week
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I have both devices. Just being honest.
Even after disabling packages it lags, which is s shame. Battery is amazing though. Owned it since release, ebaying it this week
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I am sorry to hear that. Personally my version is lightening fast but it is not uncommon for phones to slow down over time (LG are known for that but others do it too). To find the exact reason is very difficult as user preferences/installations etc vary dramatically from person to person.
Touch Whizz is not the most intuitive UI but it generally doesn't slow down an operating system. Todays processors are easily able to handle the slight increase in workload over a stock Android install and then some.
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Mmmmh, my advise to the OP ... don't believe everything you read here ... .
S7Edge user here (Exynos version). - Display, Water/Dust Resistance, Battery ... to name just a few. Not much of a comparison. Then add a likely superior camera/video performance, expandable storage, wireless charging, better headphone sound (Exynos version) ... looks (subjective).
Still, all this comes at a price and Touch Whizz is arguably not the most favourite interface but its perfectly workable and the end result is very, very good.
I am not arguing about the value of the Oneplus 3 and I am considering one to replace my Elephone P9000 as a second (work) phone but not until they (OnePlus3) have attempted to fix the display on the 3. However, that may or may not be technically possible.
I tried to post a link to an in-depth technical review of the 3 on here but the mods deleted it. You can find it on Anandtech's website, published today.
So, personally I'd unquestionably hang on to your S7E!
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What is the display issue you mention here?
I have both, but haven't properly tested the Oneplus 3. I'm on my 3rd S7 edge though. I do love the phone, but I kinda feel its a bit delicate. I also love the balance on the Oneplus and the speed of the fingerprint sensor smashes the S7 egde. I don't like physical home buttons either. Always feel like eventually they will wear out and get sticky. I'm really excited to try out the gaming performance of the Oneplus though, genuinely cant wait!
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What is the display issue you mention here?
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It's totally squewed up. Measurements are some of the worst tested (Anandtech review of the 3 today, can't post a link but if you head over there you find a more in-depth review including test bench measurements, than most other, subjective testing sites).
It just so happens that I am quite sensitive to large display aberrations. Of all the phones I've had the P9000's superb display is still my benchmark but talking of which (benchmarks), Samsungs S7 line are the most accurately measuring displays of any phones, depending on setting and which standard you want it to apply to.
Even so, as with most Amoled displays, whites are not usually as pure as from an accurately calibrated high Quality LCD but on the S7, its as a compromise I'm ok to make for the benefits.
OnePlus should probably have fitted a good LCD (ala MI5) rather than go for the headline grabbing but probably cheap and old Amoled version fitted.
Still, an update may come some way towards solving some of the issues. I wait to see.
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I have both, but haven't properly tested the Oneplus 3. I'm on my 3rd S7 edge though. I do love the phone, but I kinda feel its a bit delicate. I also love the balance on the Oneplus and the speed of the fingerprint sensor smashes the S7 egde. I don't like physical home buttons either. Always feel like eventually they will wear out and get sticky. I'm really excited to try out the gaming performance of the Oneplus though, genuinely cant wait!
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Gaming performance will be the same.
If oneplus had faster updates I might think about switching but that doesn't seem to be the case so far. My s6 edge plus got marshmallow before the oneplus 2 by 2 months . Now that I have the s7 edge I can't justify the switch unless I'm going to make a good profit on it otherwise I think I'm going to keep it and wait for the nexus 2016.
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It's totally squewed up. Measurements are some of the worst tested (Anandtech review of the 3 today, can't post a link but if you head over there you find a more in-depth review including test bench measurements, than most other, subjective testing sites).
It just so happens that I am quite sensitive to large display aberrations. Of all the phones I've had the P9000's superb display is still my benchmark but talking of which (benchmarks), Samsungs S7 line are the most accurately measuring displays of any phones, depending on setting and which standard you want it to apply to.
Even so, as with most Amoled displays, whites are not usually as pure as from an accurately calibrated high Quality LCD but on the S7, its as a compromise I'm ok to make for the benefits.
OnePlus should probably have fitted a good LCD (ala MI5) rather than go for the headline grabbing but probably cheap and old Amoled version fitted.
Still, an update may come some way towards solving some of the issues. I wait to see.
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Gaming performance will be the same.
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Not likely, the SD820 has a better GPU.
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Not likely, the SD820 has a better GPU.
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They are all but indistinguishable. No games available will test them to their limits.
Pointless comparison.
Personally, I feel that processors have reached limits which are all but useless for the majority of users, even power users.
Manufacturers should now concentrate on other, more important aspects such as increased battery life, water resistance and good quality displays.
OnePLus3's effort is not close enough yet, instead concentrating on headline grabbing things like a top processor. In the process economising elsewhere but like I said, it looks good for the price and I am considering changing the P9000 (if OP can sort the display).
I have both phones, my S7 edge is from Tmo so it also have a locked bootloader. Since I love flashing roms and all I just could not stick with the S7 edge. Also it is laggy as fk and it even takes long just to get to settings. I'm going to miss the great camera in low light but that's about it. This phone OP3 it's so fast and already have a great support from devs. I wouldn't think it twice. I'm just going to sell my S7 edge this week.
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I own both devices. I haven't decided yet which one to keep. The One Plus 3 is definitely a better value.
The camera and screen are definitely nicer on S7 Edge.
I own the AT&T S7 Edge and wished I had purchased the international version.
Honestly, you won't go wrong with either.
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I have both and I am trying to decide what to do. The S7e battery is much better and the screen on the OP3 is lacking. The camera is ok on the OP3 , but no where near as good as the s7e/ The OP3 is snappier but my battery is already at 80% after only 3 hrs at work. The OP3 is VERY thin, they should have made it a little thicker and squeezed a 3600 mah battery in it.
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I have both phones, my S7 edge is from Tmo so it also have a locked bootloader. Since I love flashing roms and all I just could not stick with the S7 edge. Also it is laggy as fk and it even takes long just to get to settings. I'm going to miss the great camera in low light but that's about it. This phone OP3 it's so fast and already have a great support from devs. I wouldn't think it twice. I'm just going to sell my S7 edge this week.
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Same here. My S7 lags switching tabs when setting an alarm in the official clock app. That's when I decided enough was enough. This OP3 is lightning quick. I don't have that slight jerk to every animation that have on my S7 Edge
This feels better too. I don't accidentally touch the screen because the screen is curved towards my hand holding the phone
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Same here. My S7 lags switching tabs when setting an alarm in the official clock app. That's when I decided enough was enough. This OP3 is lightning quick. I don't have that slight jerk to every animation that have on my S7 Edge
This feels better too. I don't accidentally touch the screen because the screen is curved towards my hand holding the phone
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It may be quicker now, a day or so old but I'd put money on it that a few months down the line, after numerous custom rom installations, a bunch of loaded games and the usual app catalogue etc. it won't quite feel the same
Here's the upshot to anyone considering the LG V30, who has the Galaxy S8 already:
Try it out in person, and compare it to your S8 side by side, before you buy one. It's that simple. Hopefully you don't have the bad experience I did with the V30.
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Update 10/19/17: Here's the video proof -- this one's for @Bootup : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG4REq6MmII
Man, I wanted to love the V30. It was supposed to be the better, snappier cousin of the S8. But I'm going to return it, and stick with the S8, which I don't love. I wanted to share a few of my observations, in case anyone else is considering a similar upgrade. Disclaimer: I usually prefer stock Android, but switched to Samsung after the Nexus 6. Imho Google hasn't released a good phone since the Nexus 5X and that's sad.
First, the screen quality on the S8 is much better than the V30's, especially at lower brightness levels. Looking at the V30 on auto-brightness settings, it always looked washed out compared to the S8. Even the V30's different color settings didn't help. And to be clear, it's not a matter of the V30 looking more "true to life" -- the screen colors just looked washed out, especially at indoor brightness levels. Counterpoint: You might not notice if you are coming from a non-Samsung phone like the OnePlus 3T or 5.
Second, the scrolling lag on the V30 was atrocious. And I say this coming from an S8 where scrolling lag is noticeable. The two apps where I noticed it the most were Instagram and Sync (for Reddit). Vertical scrolling, side scrolling, scrolling upside down, all of it was laggy as hell. I thought LG's UI was supposed to be more responsive? I compared the two side by side, and the V30 made the S8 look *buttery* smooth. Didn't make any sense. Super disappointed in this aspect of the experience.
Third, the V30 is just overall too big to be used with one hand. As one example, the volume button placement is way too high on the phone to adjust with one hand. And I have big hands. Ugh. The V30's placement of the fingerprint reader is VASTLY superior than the S8's... but that's kind of it.
Finally, the overall UX design on the LG V30's default skin feels cheap. This includes the default System UI theme, system apps, and their icons. Compared to the S8, the V30's UI is just bland and retro-looking. I immediately missed the contemporary design of the S8's system UI buttons. I searched for LG V30 themes that could help, and none of them fixed the icons problem. The dialer app especially was just hideous compared to the Samsung dialer. And for both, I wish I could replace them with the Google dialer, but they don't let you do a *true* and *full* dialer replacement.
So I'll be sticking with my S8, and probably holding out until the S9 rolls around. **** man. Not happy about this at all.
I've got zero scroll lag in Instagram, G+, Chrome... etc. As for the screen looking washed out compared to Samsung, it's generally well known that Samsung goes full tilt on the punchy cartoonish colors. First thing I always had to do was set my Samsungs to their mildest display setting. I even had to back the V30 off just a tad. As for the default LG skin, I replace it out of the box with the Google Now launcher, the beauty of Android no matter which manufacturer you're using.
Lastly, are you sure you have big hands? My Nexus 6 and LG V20 felt fine. The V30 feels small in comparison. It feels closer to my work iPhone 6s in size than it does to my V20.
I switched to V30 from S8+ for one reason only, the HiFi DAC. S8 (non Exynos) headphone jack sound quality is mediocre at best, couldn't stand it anymore.
V30 sound quality is incredible. Only thing I miss so far is Samsung Pay.
Don’t agree with OP.
Quite content with my V30 so far. No lag, slimmer than my Nexus 6. Anything else is subjective
This is now the 4th mention I've seen of the V30 having noticably laggy scrolling. Making me nervous for my purchase.
Curious to see videos of this supposed lag.
To answer the question above, the Nexus 6 was pretty big but didn't FEEL too big. This V30 however does... strangely. Go figure.
Quick update after using the V30 a bit more:
1. The video camera features on the V30 are really swell, clearly superior to the S8. If I shot a lot of video and didn't care about the other stuff like ugly UI and laggy scrolling, this could sell the phone.
2. The V30 does NOT support Kevo deadbolts, even though it has BLE. Wtf? This ALONE is a deal-breaker. For SEO: the LG V30 does not work with Kevo deadbolts by Kwikset.
3. Quad DAC is a nice feature, and it seems to be unique in its class. But I don't listen to headphones very much, and it has no effect on the phone's built-in speaker.
4. I compared the scrolling side by side and the lag is NOTICEABLY bad on the LG V30. To show it off I'd need a THIRD camera though.
I'm surprised to hear that you were experience scroll lag on your S8. I have an S7 Edge and never experience scroll lag, and I use Instagram and Sync for Reddit.
I actually find the V30's size to be great. Compared to my S7 Edge, the proportions are almost identical. It's nice going for more screen real estate without adding on extra bulk.
One of my biggest concerns with upgrading is the quality of the screen and the overall build quality. Going from my S7 Edge, nothing jumped out at me about the screen, but the V30 feels cheaper in hand. Probably because of how light it is and that awful chrome band around the edge.
I have both phones, and except for the part where the S8 might have the 'better' (I think its just brighter, V30 is more realistic) screen, I disagree with every one of OP's points. I mean really, the size? The V30 is 3mm wider, 5 mm taller, almost a mm THINNER, and virtually the same weight. Thats barely any difference, especially considering V30 has a screen .2 inches bigger
If you have problems getting to volume button, you DO NOT have big hands. I have normal hands and I have zero problem reaching any button on the V30. Funny thing is that the Volume buttons on the S8 are actually a smidgen higher than the V30. There is almost zero lag in both of those apps for me on V30. S8 is pretty lag free also, so that's a wash.
The UX thing is just funny. There are a million launchers/themes/icon sets out there that can change the look of any phone. I think the V30 UI is more subdued and natural and just says 'use me right'. The S8 jumps out at you like an attention whore. I feel like I need to dial back the tones, colors and overall 'HEY LOOK AT ME' screen of the Samsung phones.
If you had the 'sky is falling' screen issues (that can only be seen in certain specific test instances) or maybe is so vain that the selfie camera wasn't up to your speed, I can understand. But you're complaining about 3 things that are absolutely not true. In my household are 2 V30, a V20 , a 6p, an S8, S8+ and a Note 8 (with a Pixel 2 on the way) and I tell you the V30's are by far the best phones in that group.
I love to see critical analysis of any phone and I have no brand loyalty to anyone. Out of all the personal reviews I've read, this is just downright the worse and farfetched. Sounds like you just wanted to hate the phone and you found ways to meet that hate. Enjoy your S8
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To answer the question above, the Nexus 6 was pretty big but didn't FEEL too big. This V30 however does... strangely. Go figure.
Quick update after using the V30 a bit more:
1. The video camera features on the V30 are really swell, clearly superior to the S8. If I shot a lot of video and didn't care about the other stuff like ugly UI and laggy scrolling, this could sell the phone.
2. The V30 does NOT support Kevo deadbolts, even though it has BLE. Wtf? This ALONE is a deal-breaker. For SEO: the LG V30 does not work with Kevo deadbolts by Kwikset.
3. Quad DAC is a nice feature, and it seems to be unique in its class. But I don't listen to headphones very much, and it has no effect on the phone's built-in speaker.
4. I compared the scrolling side by side and the lag is NOTICEABLY bad on the LG V30. To show it off I'd need a THIRD camera though.
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My wife is 5'0, 100 pounds woman that wears XS everything, including gloves. She was amazed how small the V30 felt in her hands and how light it was for such a big screen.
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Quick side by side test
S8 on left, V30 on right. S8 is running basic touchwiz, no other launcher. I have about 35 apps on phone, Adguard running in background. V30 has about 200 apps, running Nova, Adguard, Gear s3, Android Wear all running in background. Made this real quick to show the 'atrocious' scrolling lag in reddit app of the V30......
@Bootup The two phones are on automatic brightness?
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To answer the question above, the Nexus 6 was pretty big but didn't FEEL too big. This V30 however does... strangely. Go figure.
Quick update after using the V30 a bit more:
1. The video camera features on the V30 are really swell, clearly superior to the S8. If I shot a lot of video and didn't care about the other stuff like ugly UI and laggy scrolling, this could sell the phone.
2. The V30 does NOT support Kevo deadbolts, even though it has BLE. Wtf? This ALONE is a deal-breaker. For SEO: the LG V30 does not work with Kevo deadbolts by Kwikset.
3. Quad DAC is a nice feature, and it seems to be unique in its class. But I don't listen to headphones very much, and it has no effect on the phone's built-in speaker.
4. I compared the scrolling side by side and the lag is NOTICEABLY bad on the LG V30. To show it off I'd need a THIRD camera though.
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Have you tried a hard reset and tried again? This phone is buttery smooth compared to the s8. I downloaded Sync to test out scrolling compared to my s8 and it has no problem with Sync/FB/Chrome anything. Only problem i've had with it is the camera and taking fuzzy photos which I have a replacement coming.
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I have both phones, and except for the part where the S8 might have the 'better' (I think its just brighter, V30 is more realistic) screen, I disagree with every one of OP's points.
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Cool bud, glad you like your V30. I really want the V30 to do well since competition helps out everyone.
I handed the V30 to my buddy and asked him to tell me what he thinks. He IMMEDIATELY noticed the laggy scrolling and also noticed a new thing I had not, which is the irregular brightness of the screen with auto-brightness on.
When people don't notice the problems I notice, it's not so much that they're not having the problems I found, it's just that they haven't noticed them (yet), or they don't care. Attention to detail ain't everyone's forte, let's be real.
And of course there's always the possibility that a large percentage of V30s have hardware issues, and yours hasn't, so you haven't had any of the problems I've had.
Either way, I think LG can make it right, and I sincerely hope they do. Everything I've seen so far seems to be a software problem, potentially fixable in an OTA update -- but who knows when that will happen. The V30 should be the best phone on the market today -- but it's not, at least not yet.
LOL at the big hands thing, too. To each his own. Anyone reading this needs to grip the phone to know whether it's comfortable or not. I'm sure it's fine for some people. I'm also sure the volume buttons are too damn high on the left side.
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Have you tried a hard reset and tried again? This phone is buttery smooth compared to the s8. I downloaded Sync to test out scrolling compared to my s8 and it has no problem with Sync/FB/Chrome anything. Only problem i've had with it is the camera and taking fuzzy photos which I have a replacement coming.
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The phone is new out of the box, I'll just leave it at that.
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The phone is new out of the box, I'll just leave it at that.
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Ya, I understand that being the phone was just released..... you can still get bad transfers etc when downloading all your previous apps from other phones etc. I agree with people earlier you are literally looking for every reason not to like it so just return it.
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Attention to detail ain't everyone's forte, let's be real.
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I do QA testing for a pharmaceuticals software and robotics company and previous to that I did consumer electronics hardware/software testing. It's pretty much my forte. (Or people could realistically die.)
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The phone is new out of the box, I'll just leave it at that.
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I'm not saying that you aren't experiencing lag, because I believe that you are, however, I upgraded from an S8 and I will say that, yes, there was some lag when using instagram and sync. Though on the v30 I have found that not to be the case with Sync. Yes, there are moments of lag on occasion particularly when multitasking or using the camera app usually from quick launch and it often occurs when launching in terribly low light situations. That being said I would factory reset it.
4 people on my family plan all got v30s. 3 of us had no issues or lag like whatsoever accept for the occasional hiccup like I mentioned above (or a second delay when launching a fresh app from the home screen). Now, the 4th person had a terrible issue with scrolling like as you mentioned above and a couple other issues that none of us were experiencing. It confused me so much but I decided to factory reset their phone, twice might I add just to be sure, and lo and behold he has not had an issue with scroll lag once since then.
Just a suggestion to factory reset it It's just that a majority of users aren't getting any scrolling lag that is excessively bad.
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The phone is new out of the box, I'll just leave it at that.
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Are you new to Android? If so then please allow me to tell you that a factory reset is basically the number one step in Android trouble shooting. I happen to know someone who works in a carrier tech support team and when a wierd, unexplainable issue occurs they always have the customer do a factory reset. Sucks that it's an issue out of the box but it sounds like from others that it's a fix so that's a positive!
Good luck!
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Are you new to Android? If so then please allow me to tell you that a factory reset is basically the number one step in Android trouble shooting. I happen to know someone who works in a carrier tech support team and when a wierd, unexplainable issue occurs they always have the customer do a factory reset. Sucks that it's an issue out of the box but it sounds like from others that it's a fix so that's a positive!
Good luck!
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The first thing I do with any type of lag is cache clear and if that doesn't work, factory reset from recovery.
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@Bootup The two phones are on automatic brightness?
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The S8 was. The V30 was on manual with comfort view on since i was doing some reading on it.
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Cool bud, glad you like your V30. I really want the V30 to do well since competition helps out everyone.
I handed the V30 to my buddy and asked him to tell me what he thinks. He IMMEDIATELY noticed the laggy scrolling and also noticed a new thing I had not, which is the irregular brightness of the screen with auto-brightness on.
When people don't notice the problems I notice, it's not so much that they're not having the problems I found, it's just that they haven't noticed them (yet), or they don't care. Attention to detail ain't everyone's forte, let's be real.
And of course there's always the possibility that a large percentage of V30s have hardware issues, and yours hasn't, so you haven't had any of the problems I've had.
Either way, I think LG can make it right, and I sincerely hope they do. Everything I've seen so far seems to be a software problem, potentially fixable in an OTA update -- but who knows when that will happen. The V30 should be the best phone on the market today -- but it's not, at least not yet.
LOL at the big hands thing, too. To each his own. Anyone reading this needs to grip the phone to know whether it's comfortable or not. I'm sure it's fine for some people. I'm also sure the volume buttons are too damn high on the left side.
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A possibility of large percentage of V30 having hardware problems?! Where, when? Besides a few folks complaining about the screen when viewing a grey background at 0% brightness, there have been almost no reports of hardware issues, nevermind a 'large percentage'. You're making up stuff now.
How do you keep saying the V30 buttons are too high but you're fine with the S8 when the S8 buttons are HIGHER than the V30? Not only higher but then you have the extra Bixby button right underneath the down volume that I can accidentally hit a third of the time when reaching for volume. The off-center fingerprint button of the S8 is higher than the V30 volume buttons.
I give benefit of doubt but I"m seriously doubting everything you're saying. You said you have a friend, who I"m sure has a phone. Why didn't you ask him to take a video of your two phones side by side doing a simple test like I did?
Mind you, I didn't even do my typical factory reset when I got the phone. This is straight out of the box performance.
You come with your 'read this first' headline but you're sprouting zero basis statements with no evidence that no one else (even people with multiple devices) are seeing.
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I agree with people earlier you are literally looking for every reason not to like it so just return it.
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Why would I bother to upgrade to the V30 if I didn't want to like it?
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Why would I bother to upgrade to the V30 if I didn't want to like it?
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Then why not just try what people have said to fix it if you "really want to like it" . Like i said, try factory reset and go from there.... if it does it again, tell them and return it for another one cause its not natural
It seems that this phone has a lot of issues and problems that are constantly being ignored or not cared about by Samsung.
Is this phone worth it, or am I better off selling it and buying an A50 which seems to have the attention of Samsung? Because The A50 has gotten so many updates compared to the A70 that is still on Security patch level: May.
I've had an A70 for about a month now and it's one of the best phones I've ever had. Battery averages at two days, screen is bright and always legible in bright sunlight, phone is fast and smooth. Fingerprint unlock used to be crap but updates have made it work ok. Face recognition is good. Camera is pretty good - again it's improving with updates.
I think it's the best phone for the price.
I'm really happy with mine but yeah the fingerprint reader isn't the best but it's still a great phone
Have not had any problem with this phone. To be honest, worth every Penny I paid for it.
At the moment I don't have one as my contract is due for an upgrade in October. But I as usual I have been doing research about this device and I must say the pro out weighs the cons by a mile. All the you tube reviews from unboxing to month on reviews are all positive. I am even overlooking the A80 as the A70 offers so much more for my money. Stick to your phone bud. You are in the teething phase now
I have been using a V30 and S8+ for the last year (1 was a personal device and the other as work phone). Performance on both phones was identical, with the key differences being the camera (better on the v30) and the ergonomics (v30 won this as well). Most recently I purchased the A70 and have been using it as my daily driver for the last 2 weeks or so. I have the A70 setup exactly the same way as both the V30/S8+. Same apps, settings, etc. I can say from a performance point of view, I have not missed the V30/S8+ at all. The A70 runs the same apps without any noticeable performance difference. I am not a huge gamer but there are a few that are always installed on my phones.. and they run the exact same on the A70, as they did on the S8+/V30. I haven't seen a difference in load times, or graphics and performance has been the same. Camera quality is pretty good. I thought Id miss the wide angle from the V30 but the A70 has it as well. Front camera on the A70 is much better than both the S8 and the nearly useless front cam on the v30. Battery life is fantastic. I get 2 days usage from the A70, whereas the S8+ gave me 1 day. Audio quality to my ears is the same. That is a lot considering the A70 runs on the SD675 and the V30/S8+ on the SD 835. The display is crisp and what you expect from a samoled. I would say yes, the phone is def worth it. Removable storage, huge battery, fantastic 1080p display, BT 5.0. and great performance. This phone has met all my expectations.. and I am glad I bought this rather than an s10+ which is more than double the cost of this phone.
Hello,
As Stillriza I used a S8+ (for 2 years). I now have the A70 since 1.5 months. The fingerprint unlock is good since last software update (when it is difficult I honestly have an explication such as finger is just coming out of water, long pressure on the finger...).
The 32Mp camera is good outside by day but the quality decreases when the light is decreasing (much worse than the camera of the S8+).
I haven't notice any slowdons on apps compared to S8+.
The screen has a lower resolution than the S8+ one but bigger. It is really not visible and it is very good and effective in the sun.
I will keep this "pocket computer" for a long time. I think it really worth its price.
For that price
i owned the phone before, if you want my advice: forget samsung and go for xiaomi mi 9t (redmi k20) as i did, you will not regret it.
Yes i'm totally happy with my a70, not a perfect device but exceeded my expectations by miles
I will list cons only here:
1-white colour has a tint to it, but no problem may be the amoled nature or my calibration
2-prefer stock android, but one ui is so good
3-no twrp or easy root and custom roms yet, but i will wait
4-no stereo speakers, but the included speaker is loud enough
other than than all are pros not cons
I like it. it's not perfect but it has better native apps than most phones I've owned.
fingerprint sensor is nearly impossible to get to work
but the phone has a night mode for its settings. has a great onboard keyboard. it has its own app store, theme store.
File explorer is very usable. I'm off 3rd party apps for the most part.
The music app is super fast to load the artworks. Sees most artworks. takes 48 hours but indexed my 300GB music and loads entire list (all have artworks) in real time. Really imperfect but very fast, great music app by Samsung.
Then there is the RAM Memory optimizer under settings; device care; then memory button. On other phones I have had lately, this can take a long time. Have to go in apps in settings and do each one individually.
My phone gets 1 bar of signal strength less than my other phones but despite that I love this phone.
Fingerprint reader performance is livable. (A sweaty thumb on glossy glass is prone to cause difficulties with finger print reading, even on Iphones. So I can deal with it. - Try storing fingerprint data with a wet finger? Seems to have helped.)
The camera with the G-cam app is very good, and even so I still find myself using the Samsung camera app more often for its features and the polish of the app. - The panoramic shot is a full 360 degrees and better than my Iphone7. I like the hyperlapse and slowmotion. HOwever, this phone is definitely not a camera phone and won't take steady videos.
The native file explorer app and video player app are great.
The 20:9 aspect ratio is perfect for phones. You get so much usable real estate and yet a slimmer form factor that is much more practical for one handed use and for keeping in your pockets.
I love the ONE UI interface. I have it navigation bar set to invisble and I'm using gestures.
Compared to my previous phone it's thinner as well and feels great. It does not feel like a cheap phone at all. It feels solid and well produced.
I have the one in white. Paid $370 for it.
I got the samsung a70. I like the phone's 6.7 inch display. But the aspect ratio makes it a bit narrow. That's why I'm thinking about getting the huawei mate 20x which has a 7.2 inch screen. Do you think I should stay with this phone or buy the mate 20x?
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fingerprint sensor is nearly impossible to get to work.
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Register 3 fingerprints of the same finger and it'll work seamlessly.
ok. I may try that. I have already but for some reason I deleted the first two or three, hoping one clear one.
Hey look at this RAM management screenshot. Whisked away Youtube's 150MB mess and a bunch of others.
Which one shuld i buy?
alsartawi said:
i owned the phone before, if you want my advice: forget samsung and go for xiaomi mi 9t (redmi k20) as i did, you will not regret it.
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I am dueling between the A70 and the Mi9T, what made you change and how has been your experience with Mi 9T compared to the A70?
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I am dueling between the A70 and the Mi9T, what made you change and how has been your experience with Mi 9T compared to the A70?
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the only thing better in a70 is the battery and a little bit the screen colors "but with ugly notch"... as for performance, camera..etc the mi9t is a superb phone.
alsartawi said:
the only thing better in a70 is the battery and a little bit the screen colors "but with ugly notch"... as for performance, camera..etc the mi9t is a superb phone.
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Seems like the Mi9T doesn't have an SD slot?
I have my A70 for a good amount of time to speak about it.
I really like the device. It's fast, reliable and it was a surprise to me that it can hold two sim cards and a microSD card at first. I remember that I was astornished by it's beautiful, shiny back, but that's a personal prefference. I only found 3 problems with this phone that gladly doesn't bother me that much.
Starting with the back, it's really, REALLY easy to scratch it. Mine, even if it was in the case, have some scuffs on the back. It's plastic, not as much resistable as the glass is, but I was aware of that when I was buying it. Kinda shame.
Secondly, the bezels are very small and I have big hands so sometinmes I touch the screen when I don't want to or being aware of. A bigger case like one of those armor cases should fix my issue, but that adds to the size of the phone which, I am not sure if I want right now.
Lastly, the cursed fingerprint scanner. It doesn't work all the times, but the updates seems to give it a bit of speed and accuracy, failed attempts to read out the fingerprint significantly decreases.
Overall. I think the phone is worth the money but again, that's my perspective.
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Overall. I think the phone is worth the money but again, that's my perspective.
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I own the a70. But I'm thinking of switching to the huawei mate 20x which has a 7.2 inch screen. Do you think its worth buying the mate 20x and selling the a70 for half an inch inch difference in screen size?
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3 months since I bought this awesome phone. I have no regrets. Biggest pros are 2 sim + sd card simultaneously and the huge 4500 mah battery
Anybody having it? I like the note 10+, but kinda have regrets with it. The fingerprint scanner is horrible. I get "ghost" touches often while typing and that's with the stock screen protector. The speakers are meh at best and there's a tinting issue with the grays on the screen. Debating keeping my S10e and returning this.
I wonder how returning would effect the freebies?
I think the fingerprint sensor isn't as bad as the one on S10....
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No regrets at all. I literally have none of those issues.
The fingerprint reader is great. Better than the one on my wife's S10+. I've never had a ghost touch, either.
The speakers are loud and clear. I think they're really good for a smartphone loud speaker. Especially with Dolby Atmos turned on.
And I don't have any tinting issues that I've noticed.
It sounds like you got a defective device. Maybe return for an exchange?
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No regrets at all. I literally have none of those issues.
The fingerprint reader is great. Better than the one on my wife's S10+. I've never had a ghost touch, either.
The speakers are loud and clear. I think they're really good for a smartphone loud speaker. Especially with Dolby Atmos turned on.
And I don't have any tinting issues that I've noticed.
It sounds like you got a defective device. Maybe return for an exchange?
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Samsung don't do "exchanges". They do returns only and where's that leave me with the freebies and discounts I got for the pre-order?
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Samsung don't do "exchanges". They do returns only and where's that leave me with the freebies and discounts I got for the pre-order?
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Didn't know if you bought from Samsung or a carrier. I bought from Samsung too. I know with the S8 and the Note 8, several people who had the pink screen issues and were able to exchange them through Samsung somehow.
As far as your freebies, I have no idea.
Have you tried reaching out to Samsung to ask them? There's a chat link in the Samsung Members app or you can get their 1800 number. Seems like that would get you a quicker more accurate answer than asking here.
I love this phone but we all have to be honest that the Fingerprint sensor is not great. Just not accurate enough and it's really tough to use in the sun.
I actually am returning mine. I just didn't think it was worth $550 more than my Pixel 3 XL, even with the trade in and the extras. I know I'm probably in the minority, but just didn't do it for me. I plan on getting the 4XL anyways, so I'll just hold my 3XL.
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Have you tried reaching out to Samsung to ask them? There's a chat link in the Samsung Members app or you can get their 1800 number. Seems like that would get you a quicker more accurate answer than asking here.
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I just did. They want a few things first. So I will have to provide the info and spend time doing a reset and all that. The regular sacrifice with a baby goat dipped in chocolate with the blood of a virgin whale.
Nope phone is great.
Fingerprint scanner works great for me. Gotta press harder then you think.
Speaker sounds fine to me.
Touchscreen response just fine for me. No ghost touches.
Nice camera.
Overall great phone
I think when you set up a fingerprint, you have to use minimal pressure or else if you press it hard when setting it up, you have to press hard when you unlock it. I used a light touch when setting up mine and when I unlock it, i don't have to press hard.
Lots of remorse here.
Battery life is atrocious, fingerprint scanner is slow and not accurate, and I'm not really using the S Pen.
Camera is great, and the screen is drop dead gorgeous, but not worth the trade off.
I'll use it for another few days then return it if the battery life doesn't improve and/or there isn't an update that doesn't address the issues.
My OP7 Pro is a very difficult position to beat at this rate.
I'm not sure it's a worth upgrade over the s10+ for me. I got the 1tb version and it was a beast. My when reason for getting the Note 10+ is the screen and I'm not disappointed in that. I like the squared off looked compared to the curved corners of the s10. I think I'll stick with the Note but I'm not overwhelmingly imoressed. Battery life is great for me. The fingerprint scanner us definitely an improvement over the s10 too. Everything just works a little bit better I guess.
Fingerprint scanner sucks!! Worst ever
Battery isn't as good as it should be
All the rest works as expected
Havent had any of the OP issues.
Speakers sound better than the Note 9. I'm not even using DA and sounds excellent.
The fingerprint scanner works flawlessly for me. Took a bit of getting used to coming from the Note9 but works fast for me.
Battery, well today I'm actually testing it from 100 to zero. Current @ 72% with 2hrs of SOT and 3:20 hrs on battery. Seems to be working great.
No issues with screen. Loving the beauty of the screen.
I've only used the spen very minimal but the motion on the camera works great.
Loving the experience this far.
yeah my ATT model one is all boxed up and ready to be sent back to ATT, the Fingerprint is sensor is horrible, added 3-4 different of the same finger and still slow in unlocking and tired everything and reminds me of my S10+, so I`ll go back to my P20 pro for now, maybe go back to Oneplus 7 Pro, not sure yet.
Love the Note 10+ more than any previous smartphone
Love the phone
FP sensor is horrid, but I don't care I never like them
Screen protector options(because of FP) are terrible, but not really the phones fault and it will get better
speakers sound great and are very loud, though I wished they didn't vibrate
screen is GORGEOUS
SPEN works so well
Performance is amazing
Camera seems great but haven't used much.
Dex modes are huge improvement over Note 8
Went back to pixle3 gonna wait for the 4
What a terrible phone... overpriced junk ......
1)Sound is shocking
2)Fingerprints is so poor
3(Display is barely acceptable
4)S-Pen is useless
5)Battery life is a joke
6)Performance of the Exynos is unacceptable
7)12gb Ram is pointless
8)Glass build it breaks easy
9)Software is terrible
10)it is slow with updates
I'm going back to my good old Nokia 3310........
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Most of these have to be a joke.
I still have the "protector" over the screen and the fingerprint sensor works great and is fast. Better than the S10+ and miles better than the S10e.
Battery life is good too. 6+ hours OST and still over 25%.
Unlocked USA 512GB black here.
Maybe some of you have carrier versions that are junked up?
Compared to the OnePlus 7 pro? LOLOLOL!
Hello, i just want to get some opinion from a previous s10 user. Because im thinking about getting s10 instead of s20 from my network.
1. Whats the first thing that impress you coming from the s10?
2. What you like and dislike between the phones?
3. Will you recommend getting s20 or just s10 and install some roms/tweaks etc.
Thank you very much.
Really only noticed the nicer zoom function in the camera and louder speakers when playing games. I guess if you can swing it go for the phone with better internals and will get updates past 2021. But for practical purposes, you won't notice much of a difference between the two. Especially if you get an S10 5g. The size of the phone would be comparable.
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Really only noticed the nicer zoom function in the camera and louder speakers when playing games. I guess if you can swing it go for the phone with better internals and will get updates past 2021. But for practical purposes, you won't notice much of a difference between the two. Especially if you get an S10 5g. The size of the phone would be comparable.
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thank you for your input. will keep that in mind!
I have previously owned iphone x and was thinking about switch to s10, but iphone x felt more fluid - now that i have s20+ my ex X looks laggy as hell... IMO s20+ best phone you can get at the moment
No much difference other than 120hz and camera which is not noticeable in everyday routine. I wont suggest upgrade if you have s10 already. Dont buy Ultra just because of camera.
I definitely notice that the camera is alot sharper. I had s10+ for nearly 11 months and I always felt it was too soft. Battery life is the same... 120 hz refresh rate is cool but I hardly notice it i dunno why. But I've left it on 120 hz cause battery life is good for me. Also, I've tried to switch to iPhone x and xs max couple of times... while I loved the feel in the hand I always ended up returning it after two days because it was too boring..
With s20+ the feel in the hand is like iphone.. haptic motor feels better..
If these things don't matter to you then get s10 because that's all the difference there is.. zoom sounds cool but believe me its not useful unless you are traveling and with current pandemic nobody's traveling for recreation for atleast next 18 months
Thank you everyone. Still haven't visited my carrier because of the pandemic. I decided to go for s20+ because of the promo that is being offered. Free galaxy buds and a 20$ voucher downside is exynos variant.