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[Q] USB Audio Out?

Can anyone who owns the G3 confirm that USB Audio Out (over an OTG cable) works through a DAC? I can't seem to find any information that confirms or discounts that this works.
Thanks!

PearcePowers said:
Can anyone who owns the G3 confirm that USB Audio Out (over an OTG cable) works through a DAC? I can't seem to find any information that confirms or discounts that this works.
Thanks!
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It does work with my Fiio E17. Just tried it today after almost buying an app that was supposed to do so. My only complaint is that the DAC seems to be charging while connected to the G3.

jesadac said:
It does work with my Fiio E17. Just tried it today after almost buying an app that was supposed to do so.
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Thanks, Jesadac! That's great news... I was hoping this was the case, as I believe the G2 also supported it.
I assume you're referring to the USB Audio Player Pro app? It truly doesn't replace the native ability to have a clean digital audio out signal for all sounds out of the phone.

I have the Fiio E18 and a friend has the VZW G3. We just tested the combo and it seems to work fine.

PearcePowers said:
Can anyone who owns the G3 confirm that USB Audio Out (over an OTG cable) works through a DAC? I can't seem to find any information that confirms or discounts that this works.
Thanks!
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Just bought the new Cayin C5 DAC/Amp. My TMo LG G3 does not put audio out though the amp when connected via OTG. It registers it's connected I'm guessing because all audio is no longer played through the phone. Plugged into my friends Note 4 and it worked right away. Is this is G3 problem? We're both on Lollipop.

I know this is an old thread... but do I still need USB Audio Player Pro to get USB DAC to work? I thought Android 5.0+ brings USB audio, and right now my Beyerdynamic A100 doesn't work by "simply" plugging it in... however I do get about half second of audio and quits.

I go on LG G3 with app USB Audio Player PRO and HibyMusic app, my DAC is Hegel HD2 and DragonFly RED. Logitech USB headphones works too. with China OTG cable.

I can confirm Spotify and youtube doesn't play audio through usb (android 5.1.1), and it still mutes integrated speaker when connected:silly:. Must have usb-player i guess.

External DACs and the OPO: Which Work Best?

Here's a list of DACs reportedly working with the OPO:
The Audioquest Dragonfly works with USB Audio Recorder/Player Pro (as long as Tweak 1 is installed, according to chazman1117)
The FiiO E07k, according to this OnePlus One Forums member.
The Fiio E10 actually works with "an OTG cable and no external power," as reported by benoitb and confirmed by me! The E10 doesn't require UAPP/UARP to work; it receives signal from every audio player I've used, and EQ utilities also have a direct effect.
But since I've read that using an unpowered USB DAC with an unpowering source can damage said source, I don't think I'll be making a habit of using an E10 with my OPO -- especially in light of this week's exploding battery fiasco.
The FiiO E17 works well with the CyanHacker ROM and possibly stock CM as well (according to sandels' findings)
The FiiO E18 (confirmations appear here and here, though it's a tad unclear whether the latter poster's talking about an OPO or a "graveyarded" Nexus 5)
The FiiO E7 is working with the OPO, according to Head-fi's Cattlethief.
The Apex Glacier DAC, Poimandres of Head-fi assures us, not only works quite well with the CM's 38r 24/192-ready update but "streams USB audio from Neutron divinely." (Apex wants you to know that the Glacier uses a "bipolar power supply" -- best to listen to demanding headphones when it's not in the manic phase, apparently!)
The HiFiMeDIY TinyDAC works with KitKat but not Android L, reportedly; I know from personal experience that it works with an OPO running CM11 stock.
The HRT Music Streamer II is working with the OPO, according to Head-fi's Cattlethief.
The iFi Nano iDSD is reportedly working with the OPO according to this post by Head-fi member cattlethief.
The NuForce uDAC-2 is reportedly working with the OPO according to this post on Head-Fi (to which DanBa was kind enough to drop in and link).
The Rega DAC works with the OPO without any issues according to mapin0518, who used it with Google Play Music and this Micro USB to USB OTG Adapter.
The Sony PHA-1, according to this Head-fi member.
The Stoner Acoustics UD120 DAC is working with the OPO, according to Head-fi's Cattlethief -- though only with UAPP.
The Vamp Verza works with stock music players as well as UAPP/UARP according to chazmann1117's findings. Update: Chazmann now reports that, "when using the settings required by the DAC for an android phone," there is "barely audible" noise. The noise goes away if you switch to "apple mode" on the Verza, but that makes the battery drain far more quickly.
The YuLong U100 works a treat with the OPO, according to mrruin.
(I recall reading that the JDS Labs C5D also works with the OPO, but I'm still looking for concrete verification.)
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History​
Most people who are interested in using external DACs with Android phones have been following DanBa's Android DAC thread on Head-fi for the past few years.
DanBa is focused on DAC compatibility with mainstream devices by Samsung and Nexus because the former has been the most popular maker of Android phones and the latter is Google's intersection with chosen hardware companies. Samsung and Nexus devices, DanBa reasons, will affect Google's implementation of USB audio most directly and so are most deserving of his time.
That's why it's unlikely he'll create a list of DACs that work with the OnePlus One.
It's also why I thought we might create one ourselves.

I have a Fiio E17 and it's working. I've had a couple issues with the apps crashing but I've only just started testing so I'll update when I know more. Plays both MP3 and FLAC fine.
I'm running CyanHacker ROM.
OnePlus One > USB OTG adaptor > USB cable > Fiio E17 > Earphones > Ears

After more days of listening I can confirm that Fiio E17 works great with the OPO. I suspect the first few crashes were ROM related. Let me know if you have any questions and I can test stuff.

I have the OPO and can conform that the Audioquest Dragonfly and the FiiO E-7 work fine, although I had to enable USB tweak 1 in the USB Audio Player Pro as I would randomly lose sync with the DAC.
I will update this post later today as I will have the opportunity to test the V-Moda Vamp Verza.

I would appreciate feedback on DACs without using UAPP since the app brings its own driver interface to communicate with DACs. Outside the app DACs quickly loose the ability to work with various phones.
So if you have a DAC and a OPO phone, please give feedback without using UAPP and see if it works with a standard music player. Thanks!
My Yulong U100 works, but it is not a portable or widely available DAC.

mrruin said:
I would appreciate feedback on DACs without using UAPP since the app brings its own driver interface to communicate with DACs.
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I haven't used or installed UAPP at all. Apps I've used are Apollo, Soundcloud, Youtube, Chrome, and various games. System sounds and the like are all fine as well. As far as I'm can tell the E17 + OPO works with anything and everything.

mrruin said:
I would appreciate feedback on DACs without using UAPP since the app brings its own driver interface to communicate with DACs. Outside the app DACs quickly loose the ability to work with various phones. So if you have a DAC and a OPO phone, please give feedback without using UAPP and see if it works with a standard music player. Thanks! My Yulong U100 works, but it is not a portable or widely available DAC.
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1. Then again, perhaps other people might like to know which DACs work with the OPO in whatever capacity -- with UARP or without. Anyone who's gracious enough to test their DAC with their setup and report their findings here has my gratitude whether or not they have to use UARP -- yourself included. (I believe the Dragonfly does require UARP, hence chazman's specific feedback, if I understood him correctly.)
No need to limit the scope of this thread to the setup you desire. Your interests will still be covered.
2. It sounds as though your Yulong U100 works without UARP, since you didn't mention using it and are interested specifically in avoiding it, correct?

Reignogleph MMXI said:
1. Then again, perhaps other people might like to know which DACs work with the OPO in whatever capacity -- with UARP or without. Anyone who's gracious enough to test their DAC with their setup and report their findings here has my gratitude whether or not they have to use UARP -- yourself included. (I believe the Dragonfly does require UARP, hence chazman's specific feedback, if I understood him correctly.)
No need to limit the scope of this thread to the setup you desire. Your interests will still be covered.
2. It sounds as though your Yulong U100 works without UARP, since you didn't mention using it and are interested specifically in avoiding it, correct?
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Generally from what I have seen almost any DAC with standard USB interface will work with UAPP. They really did a good job with that app and its driver interface, no doubt. But it is also no native support, there is an interface layer in between.
What would be perfect is that everyone who tries to use their DAC with their phone not only tries UAPP but also "normal" operation. Too often that information is missing. However if a DAC works without UAPP it will work with Ultimate Audio Player Pro as well.
So in my case the U100 works systemwide, with any audio/video app I tried. Stock and CM based roms.
sandels said:
I haven't used or installed UAPP at all. Apps I've used are Apollo, Soundcloud, Youtube, Chrome, and various games. System sounds and the like are all fine as well. As far as I'm can tell the E17 + OPO works with anything and everything.
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perfect, thanks

mrruin said:
Generally from what I have seen almost any DAC with standard USB interface will work with UAPP. They really did a good job with that app and its driver interface, no doubt. But it is also no native support, there is an interface layer in between.
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It isn't always true that any USB DAC will work with UARP. The success is very much dependent on the player and the DAC. Another factor is power, of course. If, for example, a USB DAC intended to be powered by the computer for which it was designed (cf. the Dragonfly) only worked with the OPO when an external powered hub was added, I'd want to know that as well.
mrruin said:
What would be perfect is that everyone who tries to use their DAC with their phone not only tries UAPP but also "normal" operation. Too often that information is missing. However if a DAC works without UAPP it will work with Ultimate Audio Player Pro as well.
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Just did a search for "Ultimate Audio Player Pro" on the playstore and found nothing. Are you certain you don't mean USB Audio Recorder Pro?
Also: When people say that a DAC works with USB Audio Recorder Pro, I believe they're trying to say that it doesn't work without UARP. The convenient shorthand for them might be to add the word only:
"Schiit-on-a-Wheel Audio's Nordic Conquest DAC works with CM OS and the stock music app, but Megathrum's MeagerDAC works only with UARP and revision 340.2(c) of the ThermalCup ROM."

that's the one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro
it is "USB" not "Ultimate" Audio Player Pro. Same developer.

chazman1117 said:
I have the OPO and can conform that the Audioquest Dragonfly and the FiiO E-7 work fine, although I had to enable USB tweak 1 in the USB Audio Player Pro as I would randomly lose sync with the DAC.
I will update this post later today as I will have the opportunity to test the V-Moda Vamp Verza.
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I am listening to the V-Moda Vamp Verza right now using Poweramp. Works flawlessly, sounds awesome. Also works with Google Play music as well as USB Audio Player Pro.

mrruin said:
that's the one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro
it is "USB" not "Ultimate" Audio Player Pro. Same developer.
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Got it: You meant to type USB but typed Ultimate -- perhaps because it turns out you're not alone.
I point this out not to be a vast hulking dink but because (1) there's an app called "Ultimate Audio Player," which people might mistakenly download instead, and (2) I googled the name "Ultimate Audio Recorder Pro" and found threads like this one, in which Head-fi members used the incorrect name for the app -- and one of them happens to be NZtechfreak -- a dedicated cataloger of USB DACs.
Note, too, that user phi303 had the same experience I did: S/he looked for Ultimate Audio Player Pro on the Playstore and found nothing. It's interesting that that's happened more than twice.
For the above reasons, I think it's worthwhile for people to know we're talking about USB Audio Player Pro sans the word Ultimate. Since I wasn't familiar with that UARP offshoot until you made me aware of it, I wouldn't expect every DAC user to know it either -- not automatically, at least.
Both UARP and UAPP use drivers that bypass the limitations of source software, which is why I suspected they had to be the same software with an incorrect initialism or variants of the same original software.

another +1 for fiio E17 working on oneplus one (i'm assuming the OP is using on the stock rom)
Confirmed the OPO will work with FIIO E17 via USB
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https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/opo-usb-audio.20694/page-3

chazman1117 said:
I am listening to the V-Moda Vamp Verza right now using Poweramp. Works flawlessly, sounds awesome. Also works with Google Play music as well as USB Audio Player Pro.
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Update--
After extensive listening I had to return the V-Moda Vamp Versa DAC. When using the settings required by the DAC for an android phone there is audible (barely) noise. If you change the settings to apple mode - the noise goes away, but the battery drains extremely quick. No Bueno.

Rega DAC works
My OnePlus One recognized my Rega DAC without any issues. I used it with Google Play Music.
OnePlus One -> USB Micro OTG to USB 2.0 Adapter -> USB cable -> Rega DAC -> Rega (or any) Amp
Cable: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005QX7KYU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
DAC: http://www.musicdirect.com/p-12208-rega-dac.aspx

Thanks, mapin and chazman -- and thanks to DanBa for dropping me a note about the uDAC2.
List updated; it now includes a few new findings from users on Head-fi's OPO thread.

Added to list: the Apex Glacier, Stoner UD 120, HRT Music Streamer 2 and FiiO E7.
Thanks for those updates go to Poinmandres, cattlethief and DanBa.

The Aune T1 works great!!great sound!using a USB micro otg tot USB 2.0 adapter.

i also confirm fiio17 works with oneplus one (usb audio player pro). A nice combination but not to portable is to connect to e17 a e12 as headphone amp(with fiio l7). It drives my sennheiser hd600 excellent and even my ie8.

User confirms cd5 works with opo
http://www.reddit.com/r/androidaudio/comments/2ro7r3/my_android_audio_setup_is_complete/

Type c dongle and headphone cable not working

Not sure if I'm missing something. But I've been trying to get my shure se535s working with my note 10+
I first bought a type c to 3.5mm dongle which didnt work. So I then purchased a rather pricey type c to mmcx cable to replace the entire cable for my monitors. But that doesnt work either. Device just plays audio out of the speakers.
The provided headphones work just fine (be it they are runnish).
Anyone got any ideas?? I wasnt bothered about the headphone jack removal at first as I had 2 options but neither of these seem to work

I plugged in the headphones that came with the phone and the connection was horrible. I literally had to hold them in because if the phone moved it would disconnect and then my phone call would come out of the speaker not the headphones. I just think the typs C connection sucks.
I have the Shure BT cable and I use BT most of the time. I purchased it off of Amazon. Works great. I also suggest getting Comply replacement foam tips.
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You have to get a certain kind. Some brands of adapters don't have a built in DAC. Go get a Samsung branded one from Best buy and see if it works. That's what I had to do.

Isn't there a DAC inside the phone?
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Have to have an adapter with a DAC. my $10 one off amazon works fine.

I use this one and it works great:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MC3DSZ7

I’m using apples version..7 bux amazon

jygsaw said:
I use this one and it works great:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MC3DSZ7
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Does fast charge also work with it?
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aerosatan01 said:
Isn't there a DAC inside the phone?
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Apparently not. I asked the same question on reddit and people said the same thing. Samsung didnt put an in built dac to convert the signals over. So cheap dongles dont work. And nor does my over prices $90 shure cable... but a few people recommended the google branded one used for the pixel. And amazon reviewers confirmed it worked with the note 10+

Café King said:
Does fast charge also work with it?
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I can't comment on that one, but since I've dealt with this issue from my Pixel 2XL, there are adapters with both the DAC and a power in, but with both ports on the end of the box. That side mounted power input looks awkward to use.
I bought this one, but I'm trying to find it to test with the Note 10+. So I can't confirm it works just yet. But anyway, having both connections on the end is much easier to work with.
There are also others with slightly smaller "boxes" or different shaped boxes, so pay attention to that as well. When I find this one and test, I'll update.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FFSV1RY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Edit: I confirmed the one I linked above works with PD, or at least it says fast charger connected and estimates 34 minutes to fully charge from 79%. So far, all the adapters and headsets I tried that I bought for the Pixel 2XL have worked with the Note 10+. So I think when shopping on Amazon, things that are compatible with the Pixel 2XL are compatible with the Note 10+.
I personally hate that they do this. They have to convert the audio for the speakers and then they just got cheap on not doing the same straight pass through connection for the USB C connector. Those USB C adapters are dirt cheap, though the ones with a DAC chip have come way down from when the only major phones that needed them were the Pixel 2's and the Essential phone or whatever that thing is called.

Café King said:
Does fast charge also work with it?
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I'm assuming it does. I usually get a "weak charging" message when I use non-fast charging-compatible chargers. I've not seen that appear on my 10+ yet.

Voicebox said:
I can't comment on that one, but since I've dealt with this issue from my Pixel 2XL, there are adapters with both the DAC and a power in, but with both ports on the end of the box. That side mounted power input looks awkward to use.
I bought this one, but I'm trying to find it to test with the Note 10+. So I can't confirm it works just yet. But anyway, having both connections on the end is much easier to work with.
There are also others with slightly smaller "boxes" or different shaped boxes, so pay attention to that as well. When I find this one and test, I'll update.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FFSV1RY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Edit: I confirmed the one I linked above works with PD, or at least it says fast charger connected and estimates 34 minutes to fully charge from 79%. So far, all the adapters and headsets I tried that I bought for the Pixel 2XL have worked with the Note 10+. So I think when shopping on Amazon, things that are compatible with the Pixel 2XL are compatible with the Note 10+.
I personally hate that they do this. They have to convert the audio for the speakers and then they just got cheap on not doing the same straight pass through connection for the USB C connector. Those USB C adapters are dirt cheap, though the ones with a DAC chip have come way down from when the only major phones that needed them were the Pixel 2's and the Essential phone or whatever that thing is called.
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I received the dongle you linked to, today. Fast charging works when you don't listen to music at the same time when charging. It doesn't bother me though. I'm very happy with it ?
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Tried a a few cheap adapters. All won't work. I found one Basues adapter that worked but the sound either dies or becomes mono when you touch the metal parts of the adapter.

I have this 3.5mm to usb c dongle from galaxy tab s5e.
Surprisingly, it doesn't work with note 10+. Only works with s5e.
Not sure why.
Anyway, the usb c headphone works in both device. So I only carry one.
I guess people will need to buy dongle from samsung as usual dongle not working, even the only from samsung for s5e.

netengineer said:
I plugged in the headphones that came with the phone and the connection was horrible. I literally had to hold them in because if the phone moved it would disconnect and then my phone call would come out of the speaker not the headphones. I just think the typs C connection sucks.
I have the Shure BT cable and I use BT most of the time. I purchased it off of Amazon. Works great. I also suggest getting Comply replacement foam tips.
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The connection is firm for me. You should get an exchange or something.

again use apples dongle. its working for me no issues and its 7 bux.

If you go on ebay you can find the razer phone adapter. That seriously has a punch twice as loud as other adapters and powers bigger headphones way better. The 24 bit DAC is awesome.

marctronixx said:
again use apples dongle. its working for me no issues and its 7 bux.
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Where I am, all stores are out of stock...

mikey_sk said:
If you go on ebay you can find the razer phone adapter. That seriously has a punch twice as loud as other adapters and powers bigger headphones way better. The 24 bit DAC is awesome.
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Can u ou supply a link also will it work for a microphone only?

magichoward said:
Can u ou supply a link also will it work for a microphone only?
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You can get it from the razer site. I'm in UK so here's the link for the UK site. I'm sure it's available on other regional sites
https://www.razer.com/gb-en/mobile/razer-phone-audio-adapter
You can also find it on ebay for cheaper.
I've tested on note 10 plus 5g, one plus 7 Pro and mate 20 Pro and mic and volume buttons work fine

Question Usb Type-c headphone adapters

Hello all,
I recently upgraded to the s22 from an S10 and all is well and I'm pretty happy with the phone. The one issue I didn't think about is the headphone port. I've tried adapters and had problems with them all. The sound quality was decent on one of them. The biggest problem is the phone seems to go crazy with phantom screen taps random song skips and volume going down by itself. This happened with any adapter I tried. Has anyone had any luck with a certain kind of adapter and can recommend one? I have no issues with charging or other adapters like hdmi.
Edit: I got one that works really well so they are out there, just don't buy the cheap phone shop ones I guess.

Samsung's. If that doesn't work there's another issue.

Frazer Scott said:
Hello all,
I recently upgraded to the s22 from an S10 and all is well and I'm pretty happy with the phone. The one issue I didn't think about is the headphone port. I've tried adapters and had problems with them all. The sound quality was decent on one of them. The biggest problem is the phone seems to go crazy with phantom screen taps random song skips and volume going down by itself. This happened with any adapter I tried. Has anyone had any luck with a certain kind of adapter and can recommend one? I have no issues with charging or other adapters like hdmi.
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I got the Apple USB-C to 3.5mm adapter; $10 from Best Buy. It works with no problems on my daughter's S22 and my S22 Ultra.

gernerttl said:
I got the Apple USB-C to 3.5mm adapter; $10 from Best Buy. It works with no problems on my daughter's S22 and my S22 Ultra.
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Thanks, I'll have another look. Now I know they are not all terrible.

Frazer Scott said:
Thanks, I'll have another look. Now I know they are not all terrible.
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No worries. It also works with the Tab S7.
Ironically, the USB-C to 3.5mm adapters that shipped with older Samsung phones and tablets like the Tab S5e, don't work with the S22 series.

I've used the anker one's and they worked fine too.

I'd suggest an apple usb c to 3,5mm adapter. Definitely best sound quality. But due to the way how android handles usb dac drivers - you will need special apps to play audio with good quality. Hiby music is a free app for example, you need to enable exclusive usb audio.

malimukk said:
I'd suggest an apple usb c to 3,5mm adapter. Definitely best sound quality. But due to the way how android handles usb dac drivers - you will need special apps to play audio with good quality. Hiby music is a free app for example, you need to enable exclusive usb audio.
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Its a good option but it'll not give you full power if its not an apple product, the samsung one is the best for the s22

Question What dongle DAC for high-res music?

Since Google apparently fixed USB DAC problems in June, what dongle DACs have ppl successfully used to play music 24bit/96kHz and up? Also has anyone used the Qobuz app (not UAPP) to play hi-res? TIA

I have a Samsung dongle and it can output 24bit/96kHz with my Pixel.

I use a moshi usb-c dac
USB-C Digital Audio Adapter with Charging (Universal)
Newly updated for maximum compatibility across all USB-C devices, including the iPad Pro (USB-C). Listen to pristine, high-resolution audio using regular 3.5 mm headphones. A USB-C pass-through port lets you charge your device at the same time.
us.moshi.com

You guys streaming with something like Tidal/Qobuz or playing local media files?

I use two regularly, an IFI Hip Dac, and a Topping NX4. As for the music, when I'm streaming, I use Apple Music which will give you the option to play the songs in hi res if you have a DAC connected. I used Amazon Music HD for years before that, and have always been a life long Android fan, so never even considered Apple Music. So as much as I don't really care for Apple or their products, I have it to hand it to them on the music front. They do something with their mastering of some of the albums (called Apple Masters or something), that, to my ears, just sound better than on Amazon.
That being said, I also have a qobuz subscription, but don't use their app. Instead, I use a script from GitHub called Qobuz-dl, which allows me to download the hi res music in FLAC form. All the music I download goes to my NAS, and from there, I connect it to apps like USB Audio Player Pro, Jellyfin, Plex, etc, and listen to it that way.

@mattprice86 Did you have compatibility problems with your DACs before Google released the USB update in June? On P6Pro I'm also using Apple Music and surprised how good it is. Using
the Apple USB-C DAC, too, which works fine but is limited to 16bit/44-48kHz on Android AFAIK. So I'm looking for a dongle that does high-res streaming and better sound quality. Something like the Hidizs S3 Pro but I'm hesitating to drop the cash because of the USB issues the P6 has had

q1nt said:
@mattprice86 Did you have compatibility problems with your DACs before Google released the USB update in June? On P6Pro I'm also using Apple Music and surprised how good it is. Using
the Apple USB-C DAC, too, which works fine but is limited to 16bit/44-48kHz on Android AFAIK. So I'm looking for a dongle that does high-res streaming and better sound quality. Something like the Hidizs S3 Pro but I'm hesitating to drop the cash because of the USB issues the P6 has had
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Yea I did. It was unusable for me prior to the update in June. I can't remember exactly what they did every time I tried to play music, but it was something like the sound would keep cutting out, or it'd start to play a noise over the music. I just remember having to turn it off right away. I ended up switching over to my LG V40 for my music until the patch came out. I actually still use the V40 frequently now, because it has Viper4Android, and I like to load autoeq profiles for my IEMs with the convolver.
I never really used dongle DACs, tbh. I forgot to mention this in my last post, but I also have a Fiio BTR5, which would be the closest thing, size wise, to a dongle DAC, that I use with my phones, and it works really well too.
That S3 pro looks like it'd be ok too. It's using an ESS9281C DAC chip. I haven't heard that particular chip, but ESS sabre chips are in my Fiio and my Topping NX4, and I like them. They have a brighter sound than something like a Burr Brown chip, that are used in Hip DACs.

@mattprice86 Thx that's super helpful--think I'll give the S3 a try. We've got similar tastes--I have a bricked V20 I used for years and still hoping to resurrect when I get a chance

I'm on Fiio KA-3, never had any compatibility issues with it, oddly an app hiby I think caused issues detecting it but otherwise it's been great.
Just Spotify high quality and download lots of flac to throw in media server

mattprice86 said:
Yea I did. It was unusable for me prior to the update in June. I can't remember exactly what they did every time I tried to play music, but it was something like the sound would keep cutting out, or it'd start to play a noise over the music. I just remember having to turn it off right away. I ended up switching over to my LG V40 for my music until the patch came out. I actually still use the V40 frequently now, because it has Viper4Android, and I like to load autoeq profiles for my IEMs with the convolver.
I never really used dongle DACs, tbh. I forgot to mention this in my last post, but I also have a Fiio BTR5, which would be the closest thing, size wise, to a dongle DAC, that I use with my phones, and it works really well too.
That S3 pro looks like it'd be ok too. It's using an ESS9281C DAC chip. I haven't heard that particular chip, but ESS sabre chips are in my Fiio and my Topping NX4, and I like them. They have a brighter sound than something like a Burr Brown chip, that are used in Hip DACs.
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How's the btr5 is it '21 edition? I'm aiming for the older one. I don't need to be thattt bleeding edge. I kind of shifted from iems over to my home audio which was a mistake because there is so many more in variables than headphones

@7h the KA-3 looks good to me. Have you had any issues playing hi res flacs on it?

Another vote for btr5 from fiio. It's excellent. I also have the btr3 but the 5 is much better in every way for both wired and wireless playback.

Reporting back... I pulled the trigger and bought a Hidizs S3 Pro. Works and sounds great. Blue LED lights up for streaming 96kHz tracks directly through the Qobuz app. I'm not using UAPP so apparently Qobuz app can stream in USB exclusive mode. P6 Pro with GrapheneOS