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Does the display suck this much?

Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone

It's plenty sharp unless you want to use it for Virtual Reality. The OP3 actually has a higher pixel per inch count than the iPhone. The pentile matrix does make it a little less sharp, but not something you will notice in normal use. I had my Nexus 5 (2013) and OP3 side by side and I could see a difference, if I held the phone at 20 cm from my face. Anywhere further than that, not at all. Also, it uses less battery than e.g. 1440p displays, which is why the battery life on the OP3 is really good.
Finally, the sRGB mode is heaven for me. Almost perfect color calibration with amoled blacks. I'll take that trade-off for pentile everyday. And if you like high saturation, just turn sRGB off and you also get a white balance slider! The choice is yours.

m.denb said:
It's plenty sharp unless you want to use it for Virtual Reality. The OP3 actually has a higher pixel per inch count than the iPhone. The pentile matrix does make it a little less sharp, but not something you will notice in normal use. I had my Nexus 5 (2013) and OP3 side by side and I could see a difference, if I held the phone at 20 cm from my face. Anywhere further than that, not at all. Also, it uses less battery than e.g. 1440p displays, which is why the battery life on the OP3 is really good.
Finally, the sRGB mode is heaven for me. Almost perfect color calibration with amoled blacks. I'll take that trade-off for pentile everyday. And if you like high saturation, just turn sRGB off and you also get a white balance slider! The choice is yours.
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Actually I do plan on using VR but it's not that big of a deal

Depends on how much you use it I'd say. A friend of mine got the S7 edge with a VR headset. He used it twice in the first week he got it. Now it's gathering dust somewhere... It's mostly still a gimmick. But if you're really into it, YouTube is increasing its VR content and some games can be found on the play store.

m.denb said:
Depends on how much you use it I'd say. A friend of mine got the S7 edge with a VR headset. He used it twice in the first week he got it. Now it's gathering dust somewhere... It's mostly still a gimmick. But if you're really into it, YouTube is increasing its VR content and some games can be found on the play store.
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I care about everyday usage (being fast),normal media consumption (like watching videos or using Spotify) more than VR really and I really care about the camera

memo45 said:
Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone
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I have s7 edge and OP 3 both.. I don't feel OP 3 has bad display! it might not be as good as S7 edge.. but definitely it's not pathetic display. It's very good display for day to day usage..

The display on the OnePlus 3 is pretty awesome, far better than on my One M9 for example. It may not be the best on the market but it surely isn't bad and it is far from sucking, lol.

At medium or high brightness with sRGB mode the display is great. Look really closely and you can see that it isn't perfectly sharp, but it is nonetheless FHD and you shouldn't be looking at your phone with a viewing distance of 5 cm anyway. Normal viewing distances are fine.
The minimum brightness is a bit problematic: if you turn it down all the way the dark colours seem to become actual black, so it becomes harder to see things.
Calling the display trash is surely an overstatement. It's viewing angles, blacks, minimum/maximum brightness, colour accuracy, resolution and pixel density are good to excellent. It's definitely not the best display you can get, but it's far from being terrible.

memo45 said:
Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone
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The people that say the display sucks are people that don't have the phone. I have a nexus 6p and OP 3 and I couldn't tell a difference between the screen resolution of both. Not even when I'm playing game. 1080p is easily rectifiable compared to 720p, 2k is not that much from 1080p unless you're looking at small text from 3 inches.
The colors on the default mode are over saturated and are a bit over the top but majority of casual users like it more. The display on sRGB is one of the best displays on the market. It's so pleasing to the eyes, it's almost 100% accurate yet the blacks are deep. My nexus 6p has almost as good display on sRGB but it has started to suffer from screen burn because of navigation bar.

I have a OP3, LG G4, OPO and LG G3 that I can compare to.
Holding the phone at my normal reading distance or even slightly closer I cannot tell the difference in sharpness between the displays.
The biggest differences are colour saturation and black levels along with screen brightness. The LG G4 and G3 are very saturated and unnatural looking.
Opo with kcal calibration and op3 with sRGB look more neutral.
Min brightness on g3 is high and blacks On op3 is the best.

It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it

What do you guys think about the zte axon 7?

I think its a phone made by a chinese manufacturer that has metal in its build.

memo45 said:
It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it
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Whole forum? Doubtful. (Seems a fair amount find it OK or better according to the real-life review section)
Personally the display is more than satisfactory. 4.5/5.
Comparing with recent phones iPhone 6/OnePlus 2 and wife's current iPhone 6s.

memo45 said:
It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it
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Actually I would love to do a blindfold test with any naysayers. The screen is fantastic and probably more than anyone but a heavy VR user would need. Post #2 was absolutely correct in his description.

khaos64 said:
Whole forum? Doubtful. (Seems a fair amount find it OK or better according to the real-life review section)
Personally the display is more than satisfactory. 4.5/5.
Comparing with recent phones iPhone 6/OnePlus 2 and wife's current iPhone 6s.
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IF it's better than an iphone 6 screen then I'm sold ?

singlebyte said:
Actually I would love to do a blindfold test with any naysayers. The screen is fantastic and probably more than anyone but a heavy VR user would need. Post #2 was absolutely correct in his description.
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I have seen a review that I could actually see the pixels on oneplus 3 screen's on video,hope it's the camera he was recording with

Not at all, it's pretty good if you do some necessary tweaks. Personally, I'm using Sultan ROM with sRGB mode (Photography mode) and the following calibrations: Red 93%, Green 87%, Blue 100%, Saturation 6%, Intensity 8. It looks great, natural colors, slightly saturated so they don't look too washed, and AMOLED black. I'm quite happy, honestly.

Daemos said:
I have a OP3, LG G4, OPO and LG G3 that I can compare to.
Holding the phone at my normal reading distance or even slightly closer I cannot tell the difference in sharpness between the displays.
The biggest differences are colour saturation and black levels along with screen brightness. The LG G4 and G3 are very saturated and unnatural looking.
Opo with kcal calibration and op3 with sRGB look more neutral.
Min brightness on g3 is high and blacks On op3 is the best.
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So you recommend op3?
I have a g3. I don't want to give up ir blaster sd card or removable batteries. Plus glass screen protector with no issues. But night time use with that AMOLED is nice. I don't like how it doesn't have multiwindow nor one handed view like my g3.
Hopefully it gets nougat quickly. I'll see how the Pixel XL is but if it's $750+ I'm not paying double. The OP 3 is a beast. I'll only consider the Google phone if it's $600. Which it won't be so hopefully I get a OnePlus 3 without screen uniformity issue this time.

I have galaxy note5.. and I can't tell the deference side by side by sharpness.. I can only notice some changing in color. But as I use sRGB on OP3 and basic on GN5 I cant tell any difference!!
Oh maybe the dpi.. but i change it on my op3 to be like gn5...

5t screen resolution compared to today's flagships. Is it good enough?

Hello everyone.
In considering the Oneplus 5t as a replacement to my good old Samsung note 4, especially for the price compared to today's flashships.
One of the main factors when I chose any device is the screen quality. I understand the 5t scores really high in this sector, but I'm worried about the resolution and screen DPI.
My note 4 and all today's flagships have higher resolutions, and I'm wondering if anyone has compared the 5t screen with other devices and can notice any real difference in daily life, mainly while browsing pictures were pixels become more evident.
I considered the Note 8 and LG v30, but I really can't stand those curved edges, and I don't need a pen since I don't use the one on my note 4.
Thanks!!

KamaL said:
Hello everyone.
In considering the Oneplus 5t as a replacement to my good old Samsung note 4, especially for the price compared to today's flagships.
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I upgraded from the Note 4 to the OP3T and then the 5T. My decision was based on easy root and Dev community. I cannot notice a significant difference in screen resolution (if you look at TV resolution guides you'll see that you need to be insanely close to the screen to notice on something as small as a phone). OnePlus allows you to manually adjust the DPI to suit your preference so you can have tiny icons and such. I love this phone compared to my Note 4. Way snappier and no slow down from TW.
I personally have never thought "this screen would be better if it was 4k". But Samsung's infinity display is definitely a better display if that is your only concern.

shadeau said:
I upgraded from the Note 4 to the OP3T and then the 5T. My decision was based on easy root and Dev community. I cannot notice a significant difference in screen resolution (if you look at TV resolution guides you'll see that you need to be insanely close to the screen to notice on something as small as a phone). OnePlus allows you to manually adjust the DPI to suit your preference so you can have tiny icons and such. I love this phone compared to my Note 4. Way snappier and no slow down from TW.
I personally have never thought "this screen would be better if it was 4k". But Samsung's infinity display is definitely a better display if that is your only concern.
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Thanks for the reply.
Since you had a note 4, how would you compare the screen with the 5t one? Would you consider the 5t an upgrade in terms of quality, color accuracy, brightness, watching angles etc?
Also, is the 5t camera overall an upgrade compared to the note 4?
Thanks

KamaL said:
Thanks for the reply.
Since you had a note 4, how would you compare the screen with the 5t one? Would you consider the 5t an upgrade in terms of quality, color accuracy, brightness, watching angles etc?
Also, is the 5t camera overall an upgrade compared to the note 4?
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Full disclosure I didn't use the camera on the Note 4 all that much, but looking through the pictures that I took with it the OP5T seems to take much better pictures. The portrait mode is also great to have.
As for the screen, I personally don't notice a difference in quality. Small text still has clearly defined edges that I can see. I don't use my phone for VR so I can't comment there. I really like the colors on the display and didn't notice any significant color difference between the two, but this is subjective. It is plenty bright and I think that might be an upgrade from the Note 4 as I seem to recall having to manually adjust the brightness to actually see it whenever I stepped outside and still having some issues. Viewing angles are also great with this phone. I don't have any color shift unless it's a pretty extreme angle.
The one thing the screen has going for it is it's size and lack of bezels, which I really love. Other than that I'd say you'd be hard pressed to find a significant difference between the two unless you looked really closely or had special equipment. So not really an upgrade in screen quality, but definitely not a downgrade. The rest of the phone is a huge improvement though. Way faster to use and a much better update schedule.

shadeau said:
Full disclosure I didn't use the camera on the Note 4 all that much, but looking through the pictures that I took with it the OP5T seems to take much better pictures. The portrait mode is also great to have.
As for the screen, I personally don't notice a difference in quality. Small text still has clearly defined edges that I can see. I don't use my phone for VR so I can't comment there. I really like the colors on the display and didn't notice any significant color difference between the two, but this is subjective. It is plenty bright and I think that might be an upgrade from the Note 4 as I seem to recall having to manually adjust the brightness to actually see it whenever I stepped outside and still having some issues. Viewing angles are also great with this phone. I don't have any color shift unless it's a pretty extreme angle.
The one thing the screen has going for it is it's size and lack of bezels, which I really love. Other than that I'd say you'd be hard pressed to find a significant difference between the two unless you looked really closely or had special equipment. So not really an upgrade in screen quality, but definitely not a downgrade. The rest of the phone is a huge improvement though. Way faster to use and a much better update schedule.
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Thanks . Such a reply is much better than any review on the net, as you gave real life experience.
I'm really satisfied with the Note 4 display, and if this isn't a downgrade, that's grade. Being with much less bezels and overall lighter is a huge plus too.

I'm a Note 4 to 3T and now 5T convert.
Updates aren't an issue with OP, they're doing a fine job now. If I had to complain, and I don't need to, it's the security updates are always behind.
I don't have the issues that a lot of others are having. I also don't have a lot of crap apps on my phone. 100% stock with dark theme, BT always on, brightness between half and 3/4 and I'm averaging 1.25 day of battery and 8hrs of SOT.
In regards to the screen, it's made by Samsung. I'm surprised at how easy it was to adjust to. Choose your preset or customize it and run with it.
Camera, hmm, it's good but not as good as the Note 4 in low lighting. Once you get to know how to use the camera, other pics come out quite nicely. Most of the pics I take are of circuit boards and car parts.
Audio, unfortunately I'm hearing impaired so I try not to comment on it. I will say that it seems like every other update the volume output changes either up or down. I notice this when I'm connected via BT to my cars radio.
I can't walk and chew gum so I'm not a VR user.

Hellz yeah it is. It's excellent and it's even better than some QHD displays out there like the G6.
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I honestly wouldn't worry about the screen resolution, it's fine, honest. On the plus side, the HD+ screen means the GPU has less pixels to push around.
My best advice would be to compare it side by side with other devices in the flesh if you can, that way you can see if you like the colour tone of the screen. I've spent several years using a succession of cheap devices bought directly from China. All of them have had LCD screens rather than AMOLED. I'm finding it very hard to get used to the screen because it looks so yellow whenever looking at anything white. If you want accurate colours (reds and blues accurate) you need to have the screen set to sRGB or DCI P3 and with either of those options whites look very yellow indeed. I've compared my phone to two other 5ts now and they have all been the same. I think I'm gradually getting used to it, but I've had to set the screen colour to 'custom' and as cool possible to get anywhere close to acceptable whites. The downside of this is it comes with very oversaturated reds. When comparing the 5t to the panels on the S8+ and Note, they seem whiter and generally a better panel.
Having said all this, I'm happy with the device in most ways and the resolution is basically fine for me.

Ouzo said:
When comparing the 5t to the panels on the S8+ and Note, they seem whiter and generally a better panel.
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I actually find that the Samsung panels that I've been looking at (S8/Note 8/S7) have been generally the same as the 5T as far as whites go (very good), but the S8/Note 8 tends to have reddish whites and the S7 had a greenish white. The 5T was much better.

xocomaox said:
I actually find that the Samsung panels that I've been looking at (S8/Note 8/S7) have been generally the same as the 5T as far as whites go (very good), but the S8/Note 8 tends to have reddish whites and the S7 had a greenish white. The 5T was much better.
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That's interesting, I wonder if the type of lighting makes a difference? In the shop where I compared them my eyes honestly thought the Samsungs had more pop AND better colours. Their whites were closest to the LCD screen on my old Xiaomi Redmi Note 2. I also felt that the middle range Samsung's had all the same 'issues' as my 5t, i.e. a bit yellow when displaying white backgrounds, and very over saturated reds that look almost scarlet or florescent. I guess it must come down to what each person is used to and how they perceive colour? I'm gradually getting used to the 5t and I really like how it looks when playing a game. Doom 3 looks really lovely on it

Ouzo said:
That's interesting, I wonder if the type of lighting makes a difference? In the shop where I compared them my eyes honestly thought the Samsungs had more pop AND better colours. Their whites were closest to the LCD screen on my old Xiaomi Redmi Note 2. I also felt that the middle range Samsung's had all the same 'issues' as my 5t, i.e. a bit yellow when displaying white backgrounds, and very over saturated reds that look almost scarlet or florescent. I guess it must come down to what each person is used to and how they perceive colour? I'm gradually getting used to the 5t and I really like how it looks when playing a game. Doom 3 looks really lovely on it
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I think there are a lot of factors going on. Lighting, personal perception, etc.

I went from the original Oneplus One to the Nexus 6P and now to the 5T. At first, I was also a bit worried that the display on the 5T would be less sharp compared to the 6P, due to the difference in DPI. But when I got the 5T, I could hardly tell the difference. The display was just as good and even brighter and vivid.

Although OP5T screen is beautiful perfect, But if screen is still a concern, LG V30 is a way to go.
I guess only difference is resolution...Pixel counts.

gotshoaib said:
Although OP5T screen is beautiful perfect, But if screen is still a concern, LG V30 is a way to go.
I guess only difference is resolution...Pixel counts.
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Uhm, no.
The V30 has one of the worst screens of all current (flagship) phones.
The one in the 5T is way, way better.

In direct comparison with the S8 I can tell the difference. But its not to great. Colors and everything else are really similar. Unless you use it for VR its very ok in my opinion.

Pfeffernuss said:
Uhm, no.
The V30 has one of the worst screens of all current (flagship) phones.
The one in the 5T is way, way better.
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Can confirm. Had a pixel 2 xl for a few weeks (same LG POLED panel). Brightness uniformity is horrible and whites are very grainy. Don't miss anything about that display.

Is it worth to upgrade from Huawei Mate 9 to OnePlus 5T?

Hello,
I currently have a Huawei Mate 9 and I'm thinking take the Snapdragon 835 bandwagon.
Three devices were on my list, but 2 are almost discarded.
- Mi Mix 2. Design is great, but average camera and too dim screen are a no go.
- Razer Phone. I would love that 120Hz screen (I own a high refresh rate monitor and love it), but the screen is just 5.7", I like M9's 5.9", but I think the ideal for me is around 6.0"- 6.5".
So, I'm left with 5T, which I think is a overall great phone, but for those who came from Huawei Mate 9, is it really an upgrade? Does it really fully replaces a Mate 9?
I like M9's size and form factor, camera is very good, and I think that its bright and colorfull IPS LCD display to be very good.
But I do miss having a SD 835 powered Smartphone.

I really like my Mate 9 when I had it, good battery life, no lag... Only reason for my switch was EMUI updates and no persistent notifications on lockscreen.

lexi250 said:
I really like my Mate 9 when I had it, good battery life, no lag... Only reason for my switch was EMUI updates and no persistent notifications on lockscreen.
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Now that you moved to 5T, do you miss anything from Mate 9?

Take note that the mate 9 does get treble support while the OP5T won't. Also remember that aspect ratios are important when talking about screen area, where the mate 9 has a much bigger surface than the 5T due to its aspect ratio even if they have the same diagonal length.
The 5T is a really good phone nevertheless, but I am not sure how much of an upgrade it is in other quality of life departments it could be.

superandroid2011 said:
Now that you moved to 5T, do you miss anything from Mate 9?
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IR blaster, and 16:9.
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cam over from a mate 9 and mate 10
only reason for the change was development support.
5T seems to have a strong dev team going, the mate 9 and 10 dont have any real development going on

lexi250 said:
IR blaster, and 16:9.
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What is wrong with 18:9? Is the phone physically too narrow/tall or are the black bars that bothers you?

superandroid2011 said:
Hello,
I currently have a Huawei Mate 9 and I'm thinking take the Snapdragon 835 bandwagon.
Three devices were on my list, but 2 are almost discarded.
- Mi Mix 2. Design is great, but average camera and too dim screen are a no go.
- Razer Phone. I would love that 120Hz screen (I own a high refresh rate monitor and love it), but the screen is just 5.7", I like M9's 5.9", but I think the ideal for me is around 6.0"- 6.5".
So, I'm left with 5T, which I think is a overall great phone, but for those who came from Huawei Mate 9, is it really an upgrade? Does it really fully replaces a Mate 9?
I like M9's size and form factor, camera is very good, and I think that its bright and colorfull IPS LCD display to be very good.
But I do miss having a SD 835 powered Smartphone.
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I have both Mate 9 and oneplus 5t now. I like mate 9 for the aspect ratio 16:9 and the SD card. I like the development of the oneplus 5t. If I have to keep one I will choose mate 9.

superandroid2011 said:
What is wrong with 18:9? Is the phone physically too narrow/tall or are the black bars that bothers you?
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Nothing is wrong with 18:9, just preferred 16:9 for gaming and web browsing. The frequent software update and near pure Android experiences makes up for the IR blaster for TV and screen aspect ratio. The SD835 is enough to convince you to change phones.

Snapdragon 845 is around the corner.

I just came from having a Huawei Mate 8 and had it for two years works perfectly and was a great phone. I loved the size and form factor and had the same problem I couldn't find anything to upgrade to. I think there's too little development for Huawei. My Mate 8 was still running Android 6. I did find the battery and screen on time better on the Huawei. Thought the screen size on the 5t is smaller and more narrow I actually much rather the feel in the hand and how compact it is in the pocket etc. I was in the same situation I wanted something with a headphone jack, decent screen size and battery that could put custom roms on, so went for the OnePlus 5t in the end.
Just think the power settings on Huawei are better being able to prevent apps from running at all while not in use is good as the battery life I'm getting is pretty poor. I could get two days out of the Mate 8 and would only just get one day from the 5t. Without being able to stop apps properly the battery just drains with hardly any use.

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Snapdragon 845 is around the corner.
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And NOBODY will notice any advantages over the SD835...

[email protected] said:
I have both Mate 9 and oneplus 5t now. I like mate 9 for the aspect ratio 16:9 and the SD card. I like the development of the oneplus 5t. If I have to keep one I will choose mate 9.
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Thanks for the replies so far.
Reading all the posts, looks like 5T is a small step up from Mate 9 generally speaking. There are goodies (eg. development) and compromises (eg. 18:9).
I'll try a 5T if I find a used one for a good price.

superandroid2011 said:
Thanks for the replies so far.
Reading all the posts, looks like 5T is a small step up from Mate 9 generally speaking. There are goodies (eg. development) and compromises (eg. 18:9).
I'll try a 5T if I find a used one for a good price.
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Most flagships from 2016 will not be a big leap to the 5T. I think you have to look at all the unique offerings of the 5T to see if you think it would be a good fit for you.
Some people cannot live without beautiful AMOLED screens. And the dev support on the OnePlus phones is top notch.
Some people hate 18:9 aspect ratios. And can't stand proprietary charging methods (even if they are faster than any other phone).

xocomaox said:
Most flagships from 2016 will not be a big leap to the 5T. I think you have to look at all the unique offerings of the 5T to see if you think it would be a good fit for you.
Some people cannot live without beautiful AMOLED screens. And the dev support on the OnePlus phones is top notch.
Some people hate 18:9 aspect ratios. And can't stand proprietary charging methods (even if they are faster than any other phone).
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Makes sense.
AMOLED screens:
Personally, by a small margin, I preffer good IPS LCD over Amoled as I'm more sensitive to poor whites on Amoled (where they are actually a gray shade on Amoled) than its deep Blacks (where they are a gray shade on IPS LCD). In both cases you get used to the display weakness and will just really see that difference when comparing side by side.
Dev Support:
Its nice to have a active community, but I'm not too much anymore on ROMs and etc, EMUI is good for me. But for the 5T, ROMs are really good because I think Pure Android is fast, really fast, but lacks a few things, so good ROMs fill in the gap.
18:9 aspect ratio:
I'm really used to 16:9 and I think they should not have changed it for a while, but I'm willing to try it these new options.
Proprietary charging methods:
Not a con for me, as I normally only charge my phones once a day, and never a original charger has failed or broke in my hands.

superandroid2011 said:
AMOLED screens:
Personally, by a small margin, I preffer good IPS LCD over Amoled as I'm more sensitive to poor whites on Amoled (where they are actually a gray shade on Amoled) than its deep Blacks (where they are a gray shade on IPS LCD). In both cases you get used to the display weakness and will just really see that difference when comparing side by side.
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I know what you mean. But the color reproduction on Samsung's screens are fantastic, and the brightness is far better on AMOLED screens than on LCD, simply because of how the technology is used in real-world situations.

davoidd said:
I just came from having a Huawei Mate 8 and had it for two years works perfectly and was a great phone. I loved the size and form factor and had the same problem I couldn't find anything to upgrade to. I think there's too little development for Huawei. My Mate 8 was still running Android 6. I did find the battery and screen on time better on the Huawei. Thought the screen size on the 5t is smaller and more narrow I actually much rather the feel in the hand and how compact it is in the pocket etc. I was in the same situation I wanted something with a headphone jack, decent screen size and battery that could put custom roms on, so went for the OnePlus 5t in the end.
Just think the power settings on Huawei are better being able to prevent apps from running at all while not in use is good as the battery life I'm getting is pretty poor. I could get two days out of the Mate 8 and would only just get one day from the 5t. Without being able to stop apps properly the battery just drains with hardly any use.
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I still have my Mate 8 in addition to my 5T. A year ago, I was desperate for a new toy so I was looking at the Mate 8 and 9, and decided to get the 8. The 5T and Mate 8 are very different devices that they complement each other and I love both. But development was limited for the Mate 8 but I was able to get KangVIP ROM & black pyramid theme running on it which is cool. Mate 8 by far the hardest phone I've had for rooting/flashing. Soft bricked that thing more times than all my other devices alone.
I prefer the aspect ratio of the Mate 8, but the 5T is compact and sleek. Oneplus is just so much more robust development wise, which is why I went with the 5T. :good:

xocomaox said:
I know what you mean. But the color reproduction on Samsung's screens are fantastic, and the brightness is far better on AMOLED screens than on LCD, simply because of how the technology is used in real-world situations.
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I like Amoled (had samsung galaxies from 1 to 4) then I switched to LG where displays on G2 and G3 were just OK, but I fell in love with those great whites compared to Amoled.
Moving forward, G4 had one of the best screens ever for me, but was plagued by severe burn-in, G5 display was dimmer and burn-in still an issue.
When I got it, Mate 9 set a new standard of display quality for me. Great colors, very good blacks, high contrast ratio and the brightest display I ever had.
So I think, whichever phone will be my next one, I'll be losing on display.

superandroid2011 said:
I like Amoled (had samsung galaxies from 1 to 4) then I switched to LG where displays on G2 and G3 were just OK, but I fell in love with those great whites compared to Amoled.
Moving forward, G4 had one of the best screens ever for me, but was plagued by severe burn-in, G5 display was dimmer and burn-in still an issue.
When I got it, Mate 9 set a new standard of display quality for me. Great colors, very good blacks, high contrast ratio and the brightest display I ever had.
So I think, whichever phone will be my next one, I'll be losing on display.
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That may be true. Display does come down to personal preference a lot of the time. I did play with a Mate 9 at Best Buy once when I had my Pixel XL but it didn't look as good. Probably because I am used to AMOLED, lol.

Oneplus 5T has the adaptive screen mode that replicates true colours, pretty much identical as real life, or an IPS. I still have my Nexus 5, which by the time was praised by it's outstanding screen quality and colour accuracy, well, with that adaptive mode on the OP5T the whites are actually whiter, no bluish or orange tint to it, simply a perfect white. The colours seem dull but that's how real colours are.
AMOLED were praised at first for punchy vivid colours, I never liked it. Went to the OnePlus 5t and when I came upon that adaptive mode, I knew this was the best device ever released, a true worthy upgrade from my lovely and awesome Nexus 5.
A friend of mine has the mate 9, I have to say the screen is nice but nowhere close the OnePlus 5t has to offer.
I just wished OnePlus incorporated OIS on their sensors.. that's my only con

A70 vs Oneplus 6T

I have already been ridiculed for trying to compare the 6T to the a50,but the a70 looks to be a better match up
Thinking of changing my 6T this summer
Perhaps for a OnePlus 7,
Any thoughts on the a70
It will be cheaper but is it too big ?

manus31 said:
I have already been ridiculed for trying to compare the 6T to the a50,but the a70 looks to be a better match up
Thinking of changing my 6T this summer
Perhaps for a OnePlus 7,
Any thoughts on the a70
It will be cheaper but is it too big ?
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Why exactly are you getting rid of your 6T? It's overall a great device and can easily last you for another year or even more?

CyberOvca said:
Why exactly are you getting rid of your 6T? It's overall a great device and can easily last you for another year or even more?
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Absolutely,you are right,but I like the newest tech
But will likely keep my 6T till next year and straight up buy a OnePlus 8

manus31 said:
Absolutely,you are right,but I like the newest tech
But will likely keep my 6T till next year and straight up buy a OnePlus 8
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Still One plus 6T is best than A70. if u r planning to go with A70 then its not advisable when compared to 6T.

vistaabalaji said:
Still One plus 6T is best than A70. if u r planning to go with A70 then its not advisable when compared to 6T.
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Reasons to go a70
Better display
6.7 inch screen
Bigger Battery,4500mah with 25 watt quick charge
SD card Support
Always On Display
Triple Camera
Better Cameras 32+8+5
32 mp front camera
Not confirmed but probably newer in screen fingerprint tech
Headphone jack
Improved brightness
Fm radio
Lower SAR values(if it bothers u)
One UI has more features but still close to stock
Against A70
Snapdragon 675
No oxygen OS nearly stock
Frequency of updates
OnePlus community
To sum up,thre are definitely reasons to go with the A70 and I'm seriously considering swapping my 6T for one when it comes out here next week. Im not a gamer at all on Android so do I need the Snapdragon 845,not at all.I could use all the features on the a70 though but may well stay with my 6T regardless.

manus31 said:
Reasons to go a70
Better display
6.7 inch screen
Bigger Battery,4500mah with 25 watt quick charge
SD card Support
Always On Display
Triple Camera
Better Cameras 32+8+5
32 mp front camera
Not confirmed but probably newer in screen fingerprint tech
Headphone jack
Improved brightness
Fm radio
Lower SAR values(if it bothers u)
One UI has more features but still close to stock
Against A70
Snapdragon 675
No oxygen OS nearly stock
Frequency of updates
OnePlus community
To sum up,thre are definitely reasons to go with the A70 and I'm seriously considering swapping my 6T for one when it comes out here next week. Im not a gamer at all on Android so do I need the Snapdragon 845,not at all.I could use all the features on the a70 though but may well stay with my 6T regardless.
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You make some good points and I agree with you. Regarding gaming I know you said you don't play them on the phone, but you shouldn't worry at all, A70 will play all the latest games no problem if you decide to play something. I tried some games on A50 and it had no problems running any, and A70 has even better specs!

Glotttis said:
You make some good points and I agree with you. Regarding gaming I know you said you don't play them on the phone, but you shouldn't worry at all, A70 will play all the latest games no problem if you decide to play something. I tried some games on A50 and it had no problems running any, and A70 has even better specs!
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Yes I believe this is true,the 675 is a great chip.I used a device with 660 and there was no problems whatsoever, Processors these days are typically great above the 660,
Still on the fence about the a70 though,have been looking at the reviews,many point out issues with the cameras,front and back
Would need these to be great if I'm gonna swap my 6T which has been performing a lot better with Gcam

After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
Most notably the in display fingerprint sensor which looks like it's first generation tech
And the camera not quite fullfilling it's potential in terms of megapixel stated and lack of stabilisation,
It would not be worth me giving up my 6T for this device,
I will continue to try and find a decent mid range device with good if not excellent camera and features the a70 have,
It may take another year actually but certainly the mid range section is getting better all the time

manus31 said:
After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
Most notably the in display fingerprint sensor which looks like it's first generation tech
And the camera not quite fullfilling it's potential in terms of megapixel stated and lack of stabilisation,
It would not be worth me giving up my 6T for this device,
I will continue to try and find a decent mid range device with good if not excellent camera and features the a70 have,
It may take another year actually but certainly the mid range section is getting better all the time
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You're making the right decision I've had a 6T and A70 and the 6T has a much better camera specially in low light which is the real weak point of the A70. Megapixels are just numbers and doesn't say anything about camera quality. The camera and fingerprint sensor are the two weakest points of this phone. I didn't like the fingerprint reader even in the 6T as I found it annoying but this one is even worse and I rely on face unlock and only use fingerprints for authorization in banking apps etc. However screen is better and battery life is much better.

manus31 said:
After much research and scouring the internet for reviews and insight,
I have decided not to go with the a70,although it is a capable and attractive device with many features,there are some downsides that would be too annoying to live with,
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Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
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Yea,seems to be a bit of a disappointment overall for this phone,glad I didn't go for it,shame because on paper it seems ideal

I'm getting great batterytime on mine.
But camera and fingerprint reader is not where it should be for the pricerange.
For example my Xiaomi MI 9 SE is cheaper and camera is way better, and fingerprint reader is also better, but like most in-screen readers it is still slow. But sure it lacks headphone jack and has shorter runtimes with its 3000mAh battery.
Overall the Mi 9 SE is a better phone for less money.

OC-Freak said:
I'm getting great batterytime on mine.
But camera and fingerprint reader is not where it should be for the pricerange.
For example my Xiaomi MI 9 SE is cheaper and camera is way better, and fingerprint reader is also better, but like most in-screen readers it is still slow. But sure it lacks headphone jack and has shorter runtimes with its 3000mAh battery.
Overall the Mi 9 SE is a better phone for less money.
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Hi,
Nice statement, but comparing a A70 and a mi9 SE is kind of pointless.
I don't think you can compare a 5.9" display phone with a 6.7" display phone.
Even if the rest is nearly identical.
Don't get me wrong.
I am a great Xiaomi fan.
If Xiaomi would have released a smartphone ABOVE 6.5" AND with a decent SoC, I would have gone for that immediatly.
But the only "phablet" in the Xiaomi range of products is the mi Max 3 (that I currently have) and that one does have a SD 636 and it has really horrible latency when you touch the display.
Regards.

NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
So far, I'd call that a really wise decision.
First, display is of course 6.7 inch... But with a 20:9 ratio, it looks tiny compared to the 6.9" of the mi Mix 3 I had before the A70.
Second, I seem to be allergic to AMOLED/SuperAMOLED technology. Display gets a really blue tint when tilted.
Third : battery life is real not on par with what I would expect from a 4500mAh battery.
Fourth : I am unable to use Super Fast Charging and I never had a device charging that slowly in the past 4 or 5 years...
Good I bought this device from Amazon and so can give it back within 30 days...
It is a disappointment, bercause on paper it had everything I am looking for.
Real life sometimes hits pretty hard
Regards.
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Are you sure you have enabled fast charging in settings? Battery / Settings / Fast Charging With Cable.
Just a thought, mine charges from 10% to 100 % in about an hour and a half.

Do remember that 25w charging is only enabled when the screen is off or the AOD is activated. Whenever the screen is on, even on the lockscreen, it'll be limited to 6w.

Samsung A70 compared to S8+

I own s8+, but I really like bigger screen of a70 plus better battery.
The thing I am most interested is how does camera compare with s8+ camera?
If the camera are similar quality, then I would definitely give a70 a chance ?
I would compare them myself, but stores around me don't have a70 on stock?
Thank you in advance for your help ?

Think S8+ would definitely have better cameras.
EDIT: Read these around the forums.
Marcury said:
Hello,
As Stillriza I used a S8+ (for 2 years). I now have the A70 since 1.5 months. The fingerprint unlock is good since last software update (when it is difficult I honestly have an explication such as finger is just coming out of water, long pressure on the finger...).
The 32Mp camera is good outside by day but the quality decreases when the light is decreasing (much worse than the camera of the S8+).
I haven't notice any slowdons on apps compared to S8+.
The screen has a lower resolution than the S8+ one but bigger. It is really not visible and it is very good and effective in the sun.
I will keep this "pocket computer" for a long time. I think it really worth its price.
For that price
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See this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-a70/help/a70-worth-t3952379

I confirm what I previously wrote about that camera. My wife is now using my "old" S8+, I bought for myself the A70 for the larger screen. About the camera, really forget the A70, the S8+ is infinitely better.
For the rest, the A70 is a good pocket computer (with a phone app)

An A70 loose in every aspect to an S8+ that Is an ex top and still kicking today,( even an S7 beat It in camera because it's only a 8mpx effective and mediocre sensor ) and even in updates, the only aspect where an A70 Is Better Is battery Life.

luka-san said:
I own s8+, but I really like bigger screen of a70 plus better battery.
The thing I am most interested is how does camera compare with s8+ camera?
If the camera are similar quality, then I would definitely give a70 a chance ?
I would compare them myself, but stores around me don't have a70 on stock
Thank you in advance for your help
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For the camera just install gcam with night side on your A70, it's definitely better than the A70 stock camera, I installed it on my A70 and it's incredible, probably even better than the S8+ stock camera

SIRKRA said:
An A70 loose in every aspect to an S8+ that Is an ex top and still kicking today,( even an S7 beat It in camera because it's only a 8mpx effective and mediocre sensor ) and even in updates, the only aspect where an A70 Is Better Is battery Life.
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Nope.
A70 pros:
More ram
More storage
Bigger screen
MUCH better battery life
25w charging
S8 pros:
Slightly faster chipset
Wireless charging
HDR display
Better camera
Most of the a70 camera issues can be solved by using gcam but it's not a perfectly solution and there are drawbacks that people dont like to talk about. Ie, half the features not working in gcam, the time it takes to process HDR shots with some configs, the fact that you can't set gcam as the default camera app without rooting etc. Really, we need an optimised app from Samsung and not some bastardized old gcam app.

James.Miller said:
Nope.
A70 pros:
More ram
More storage ( slower ufs speed than S8+ )
Bigger screen ( mid tier full hd and not top tier 3k with hdr support )
MUCH better battery life
25w charging
S8 pros:
Slightly faster chipset ( slighty in CPU ok, in GPU it destroy the Adreno 612
Wireless charging
HDR display
Better camera
More narrow and Lighter
Premium materials and not cheap plastic
Gorilla Glass 5 ( vs 3 )
cat16 modem
Premium Bundle with adapters and good quality buds ( A70 doesn't even have a standard type c cable bundled, it's double type c and you need an adapter to connect to pc if you doesn't have a type c port )
Faster reliable fingerprint scanner even if in an ankward position
IP68 rating
dual PDAFOIS
real type c 3.1
lower SAR
DEX support
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I will conceed the point on the fingerprint sensor and I should have included that in my list.
Having moved from an s8 to an a70 I can say with 100% sincerity that any difference in resolution can only be seen by pixel peeping both of them side by side and actually in use its easier to fit more on the a70 screen and keep it legible (for example a forum like this). So despite the lower res, it's more usable. Yes the s8 does support HDR as I mentioned myself. Wether people even notice or not? I mentioned it all the same.
In use the s8's storage and gpu specs don't translate in to much additional speed. Again, this is my experience comparing both side by side. Paper spec will suggest otherwise but I don't give a monkeys about that. I can ay all the same games just the same.
Glass back. On the s8, plastic on the a70. Don't care when they are in cases and if you don't use a case then good luck to you - my s8 got smashed to bits and the weight? Only 10g in it. Meh :/
Cat16 modem is stretching - show me something to take advantage of it its 1gbps download and I'll change my mind.
The bundled USB cable isn't much of a problem. You don't need an adaptor of your pc has USB C ports or just buy an adaptor / use a USB C to USB 3.x type A cable if it doesn't. Meh. It's a point, but a minor one and only a couple of pounds to fix at the most.
The rest.. I mena lower sar, really? If it makes no difference in use, I don't care about it. And the sar value most definitely makes no difference in use.

James.Miller said:
I will conceed the point on the fingerprint sensor and I should have included that in my list.
Having moved from an s8 to an a70 I can say with 100% sincerity that any difference in resolution can only be seen by pixel peeping both of them side by side and actually in use its easier to fit more on the a70 screen and keep it legible (for example a forum like this). So despite the lower res, it's more usable. Yes the s8 does support HDR as I mentioned myself. Wether people even notice or not? I mentioned it all the same.
In use the s8's storage and gpu specs don't translate in to much additional speed. Again, this is my experience comparing both side by side. Paper spec will suggest otherwise but I don't give a monkeys about that. I can ay all the same games just the same.
Glass back. On the s8, plastic on the a70. Don't care when they are in cases and if you don't use a case then good luck to you - my s8 got smashed to bits and the weight? Only 10g in it. Meh :/
Cat16 modem is stretching - show me something to take advantage of it its 1gbps download and I'll change my mind.
The bundled USB cable isn't much of a problem. You don't need an adaptor of your pc has USB C ports or just buy an adaptor / use a USB C to USB 3.x type A cable if it doesn't. Meh. It's a point, but a minor one and only a couple of pounds to fix at the most.
The rest.. I mena lower sar, really? If it makes no difference in use, I don't care about it. And the sar value most definitely makes no difference in use.
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I am going to have to agree with this. I have both phones, and use both daily. The S8+ is a work phone and the A70 is my personal phone. With regards to display .. I can't tell a difference. The S8 screen I feel can be a bit brighter at times in direct sunlight..but with regards to resolution and HDR .. I don't see the difference. The A70 display is really nice.
With regards to performance, I have the exact same apps and games on both phones. I run the same launcher setup on both. When I watch netflix, prime or other vids that i've downloaded.. it feels exactly the same with the exception of the much larger A70 display. The games I play run the exact same on both.. neither is slower than the other. Apps load the same...and act the same.
Really, spec wise on paper, there is a diff... but perceived day to day usage ..I don't see it, aside from the insane screen on time I get from the A70. In the end, what matters the most is your day to day usage. I've used higher end phones that stutter, lag and occasionally freeze up.

One thing to consider is that the A70 has a Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU, whilemost S8s have a Samsung Exynos. This means you can install and run Gcam ports on an A70 mostly flawlessly, instead of like on the S8 where you need to wait for a specific version from iDan or Zoran, and those don't always work very well.
The Camera on the A70 after the latest update is about as good as the S8's, but has a time of flight sensor so does better bokeh effect stuff. If you really want to take good photos though you'll want to install one of Arnova's Gcam ports.
Performance wise the A70 feels faster when doing multiple tasks than my S8 did. The screens are impossible to tell apart PPI wise but the A70s larger screen is much nicer to use. And the A70 doesn't have that stupid Bixby button, which is a big win. The S8 will also not be getting Android Q, the A70 will.
Having used both for extended periods I am much happier with the A70 than the S8. I prefer the A70 more than my S9+ to be honest too.