Please read this post:
HCFroyd247 said:
I personally don't see any problems when it comes to cooked roms. These people shared their work with utmost dedication and I certainly appreciate it. It would boost SGY development in many aspects for one is the UI (user experience), the designs and themes are also part of development. Developing is not an easy task, bearing in mind the fluidity of your designs, the critical response of the rom's performance and the originality, the x-factor for a Rom's success.
You will see the value of your own work if it will last for a long time, and if people across the whole world will take time to install it to their phone. In that sense, I think Amal Das's creations is on the right track. I will not question the fact that he has contributed a lot in terms of ROM design choices. Look at his posts, there are tons of designs to choose from! at that perspective I will give a double thumbs up! (you can make a unified thread for your designs, instead of making a multiple threads, it will be more efficient)
If all of us will be hostile against people who want to share, there will be no point for such a forum to exist. He shared, you as user and a member of this forum can constructively criticize it as expected to a mature individual.
Sooner or later developers, contributors, themers will move on to other devices, so let us appreciate what is available for us right now.
Kudos for the maker of these roms, for making this community alive!
PS. Amal Das, please edit your first page. I do not see any chobits elements in your rom you may have overlooked the "chobits revamped ui" lol. It is okay to copy anything from my thread, atleast edit it to perfectly suit your rom's description. Thanks and more power!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HCFroyd has a point our phone will not be developed forever. I'm guessing after the realease of the S III we don't have much time left. Lets try and do as much as we can while we can!"
i have another phone with me here,
a HTC Wizard one of the first windows mobile smartphones which was released mid 2007- early 2008,
they have a forum here in xda but sad to say the last development for a custom rom was on 2010,
so the forum is now but a ghost land with less than 1 post per 5 days or so with no devs left working on the device,
my point is a time will come that SGY will also be like HTC wizard,
turn into a old end device and the forum will be like a ghost town,
we do realize this and the best thing we can do it to just have fun with our device,
develop things for the sake of sharing ideas to others, collaborating minds of millions of SGY owners,
i love my phone and its the first phone i bought with my first salary so it has a sentimental value
cheers to all SGY owners
Exactly..I dont see the point in arguing with cooked/themed stuff..different people have various choices..some people like MIUI,some ICS, and some stock etc..whats wrong in that? There are pathetic people who dont contribute to the forums instead they criticize people who are trying to do some good to the forums...What we can do utmost is to deny those negative comments,take the constructive comments and move ahead!
I.AM.H3RO said:
Please read this post:
HCFroyd has a point our phone will not be developed forever.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hope no one use HCFroyd's statement as an apology for developing a mere themed rom.
hitme987 said:
Exactly..I dont see the point in arguing with cooked/themed stuff..different people have various choices..some people like MIUI,some ICS, and some stock etc..whats wrong in that? There are pathetic people who dont contribute to the forums instead they criticize people who are trying to do some good to the forums...What we can do utmost is to deny those negative comments,take the constructive comments and move ahead!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i don't have problem with themed rom as long as they give proper credit to original creator. i never ask credit for my work but someone did. the new trend in our forum, a lot new themed rom don't give credit to original creator. but that's only 'small' problem. bigger problem is a lot of new rom released with too much bug. if you experience user, you could solve that problem easily. but how about someone new ? please remember this forum become reference for other forum or non member. today i see in other forum, someone asking for help because his phone brick after flash themed custom rom from this forum.
we couldn't expect those wannabe devs to solve their rom problems. personally I doubt if they're know how to properly customize a rom. most of them only replace the apps, and change the ui_print stuff in updater script. in most cases they don't even know how to modify an apk since they modify their systemUI and framework-res via UOT kitchen. this will surely brings problems to new member or inexperienced one here.
It will surely come to an end, but the S3 will not kick the Y out of xda. It would need pretty long legs to kick a low-end device.
irfanbagus said:
i don't have problem with themed rom as long as they give proper credit to original creator. i never ask credit for my work but someone did. the new trend in our forum, a lot new themed rom don't give credit to original creator. but that's only 'small' problem. bigger problem is a lot of new rom released with too much bug. if you experience user, you could solve that problem easily. but how about someone new ? please remember this forum become reference for other forum or non member. today i see in other forum, someone asking for help because his phone brick after flash themed custom rom from this forum.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, that's why we have the support general section, faq and q &a.. The bugs I saw in the threads are very minor and mostly fcs which are mostly accompanied by fixes from the dev.. The bricking errors are mostly due to wrong method of flashing and no thread in dev section causes bricks otherwise.. Regarding the credit thing, yeah some people may not give proper credit but they didn't just post the content as it is right? They did some work and stuff but it's respect that matters and they won't get it by modding stuff.. But I really appreciate the way amal das cooked and added the themes, apps.. It surely involves some definite time and effort and remember something is better than nothing.. We must appreciate their effort to upload and share them for nothing !
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
You have a good point hitme!
as for me I do not see anything wrong when people want to share something. its just that other users tend to envy what they made and then criticize the creator/moder/chef.
(that's what I noticed here at SGY forum)
BUT THIS CRITICISM DOES NOT EXIST ON ANY OTHER FORUMS. i wonder why?
kurotsugi said:
I hope no one use HCFroyd's statement as an apology for developing a mere themed rom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I totally agree on this. And if these people uses custom ROMS as base ROM, themed it and added some apps that totally boost the UI and not the performance or to cut it short decorated the rom instead of adding new features or tweaks, why not release it as an OPTIONAL THEME UPDATE or OPTIONAL APP PACKAGE and not NEW DEV ROM thing?
Don't get me wrong but I do appreciate hard work. Themeing is developing but please keep it in mind that SKINNING is different from BUILDING. Skinning is theming and building means you start from STOCK ROM WITH NO TWEAKS and you DEVELOP/ADD/MODIFY the ROM to have new features -and that being true, I see no reason for a THEMED CUSTOM ROM to be LABELED ROM DEV NEW.
I have experience in building a custom rom, I have a Motorola A1200 Ming way back and what I did is I integrated A1600 and A1800 features to A1200 firmware. I didn't use and custom rom available and gave it a new look.
My point is, you don't label a rom whose base is a custom as *developed or *new. That sucks! How come you use others ROM and themed it + added some apps? and call it developed? It should be skinned or themed or optional update. You got to be kidding to think you developed it when you skinned it. And that number of thanks you get prolongs your day dreaming of being a developer when you are just a skinner/themer.
NOTE:
The above statement may not be comfortable for your eyes to read but hey, it's true. If you're no developer, Well this post sucks. Truth hurts.
We need a Steve Jobs in SGY..
He was not a developer, but a motivator
steve 'jobs' (lol)
please don't think that me (or some other user) hate the rom development. nope...we only get tired of those who claimed themself as a dev but in reality know almost nothing in rom development.
1. these people potentially risk other user for bricking their device.
2. you can't expect a good rom from them. in most cases you'll only get a half assed rom with a lot of bug.
I was saying that statement to ensure that we get a rom with good quality from a real dev. i'm sorry if this words might sound harsh.
kurotsugi said:
steve 'jobs' (lol)
please don't think that me (or some other user) hate the rom development. nope...we only get tired of those who claimed themself as a dev but in reality know almost nothing in rom development.
1. these people potentially risk other user for bricking their device.
2. you can't expect a good rom from them. in most cases you'll only get a half assed rom with a lot of bug.
I was saying that statement to ensure that we get a rom with good quality from a real dev. i'm sorry if this words might sound harsh.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You do have a point, man. They needn't be called devs, but they are making something! You can't just expect someone to just create a very good rom like chobits or creeds. They have to start from the base, making small mods, and when they become good at it, then they can start making bigger mods, and so on. You won't understand the studies of a university unless you've completed the one of school.
Sent from heaven!
I.AM.H3RO said:
HCFroyd has a point our phone will not be developed forever. I'm guessing after the realease of the S III we don't have much time left. Lets try and do as much as we can while we can!"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't understand what you mean, SIII is too expensive, low & mid-range devices still remain
anasdcool71 said:
You do have a point, man. They needn't be called devs, but they are making something! You can't just expect someone to just create a very good rom like chobits or creeds. They have to start from the base, making small mods, and when they become good at it, then they can start making bigger mods, and so on. You won't understand the studies of a university unless you've completed the one of school.
Sent from heaven!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you chose wrong example
i am not too 'old' in this forum, but afair i was already here when chobits released. it's not themed rom and it's relatively stable even in first release. nobody can stop you from making/learning custom rom, but release to forum is another matter. if the mod only themes (which a lot new dev did) we already have themes sub forum. and if it's only fix small problem in other custom rom, why not just create patch. and is it really hard to says if he/she make it based other rom ?
i don't claim if i am a dev, but i do share some of my small modifications in this forum. before i share something, i need 2-4 days (in my spare time) to review my modification, make sure every know problems already fixed. most of my mod is low level so one mistake can brick your phone forever. i do wild and crazy thing with my own device. but when i decide to share it, i do very very carefully, because if i did something wrong it will effect someone else phone. few days ago i almost pull back my shared mod because someone report my mod make his phone restart. fortunately i can fix it.
anasdcool71 said:
You do have a point, man. They needn't be called devs, but they are making something! You can't just expect someone to just create a very good rom like chobits or creeds. They have to start from the base, making small mods, and when they become good at it, then they can start making bigger mods, and so on. You won't understand the studies of a university unless you've completed the one of school.
Sent from heaven!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
learning and sharing is a different things...if they already have some skill about theming stuff they could share their work as a theme.
1. it has less risk for brick
2. easier for them to upload
3. easier to apply to any rom
please don't see me as someone who doesn't like rom developer. I don't mind if anyone ask me about rom development. I have made a thread about customizing a rom and anyone could use that as a starting point in their study. I've also helped several user developing their rom and some of them have published their rom in this forum. believe me, I want to see more rom developer in this forum. but I don't want to see a half assed rom with a lot of bug and complains from other user.
PS: if you consider about reputation stuff you'll understand that I'm saying this for their good. anyone will see someone who comes with a half assed rom as a fake dev. I don't wanna see that happen (again) to anyone here. if they could restrain themself a little bit until they could make a good rom, they could get better response and more appreciation of their work.
Question
@all
can you please tell us which roms and their developer, that you do not consider as part of SGY development? So we can clearly differentiate it from "real" development to just cooked or themed..
Thanks!
Hey everyone!
Just wanted to ask a couple questions and start another discussion thread for those of us that have Oreo installed on our devices.
Questions:
With twrp on oreo, what's the status on the flashable version?
Anyone currently or thinking about creating new roms, kernels, etc for the device?
Lastly, what are some things that the nondevs here can do to help us all out?
Hope to see some good discussions
Thanks in advance!
Idk anything about the status of TWRP, so I can't help you there. Overall, I know there was an effort to get a device to a dev, and it was successful. Invisiblek now has one. Looks like he's working on lineage, which is super awesome.
The device now has a repo on the lineage github, so you can see work is being done. As for a timeframe, no clue, just have patience and know that it'll be released once it's ready. We're fortunate that Moto has already updated us to Oreo and it's a pretty stock interface. Only way they could've done better in my view would have been to update the device to support project treble, but that's an entirely different story.
That's about all I know, hope it helps somewhat.
Patience indeed. It'll move along at some point. Next to Sony, I think Moto has one of the cleanest implementations of Android, so it's definitely bearable.
Plus, with the price dropping into "steal" territory, I see more smart ppl coming this way.
Yea thank you guys! I'm being as patient as can be and I just wanted to have a thread here were any and all of us curious folks can have a place to talk about the upcoming of this device and the near future development holds for it. I didn't know it was on lineages repo so that's awesome to hear! That's a perfect example of why I created this post, just to spread the word into one forum and just have a couple chats with everyone about the moto.
Cheers guys, hope to hear more from others too!
First of all, my apologies if this is the wrong section to post this as I'm honestly not sure where to put this in order address developers for cross-device development.
I'm looking for a port of MIUI11/12 for atleast my device specific (S10+).
After moving on from a Mi5 -> OP6 (MIUI11) -> S10+ (Stock) I really miss the beauty and elegance that MIUI offers.
Please refrain yourself from advising me to swap/switch phone, that's not what I'm asking for.
I can spare 0 euro (revoked, see edit) via Paypal for a working (stable enough for daily driver) port of MIUI11/12, and I'm perfectly aware that this is fairly low budget for development/debugging time.
It's just a motivation (hopefully) for a developer to start working on porting it for our device.
Again, I'm sorry if this isn't the right place. I also apologize if anyone feels offended by this thread in any way (under-appreciation or similar).
As a sidenote; I can test early builds, and I'm willing to help out sending debug logs etc if that has any beneficial aid towards getting a (semi-)stable rom.
Thank you in advance.
Edit: I'm opting out of this offer as I've sold my S10+ to buy a different device.
I will keep the thread as is in case other have the same question as I had.
great idea... ✌?
Not that I hate the idea but that kind of makes no sense. The most expensive thing Samsung's smartphones have is software. I had a lot of phones and used a lot of ROMs but nothing beats debloated OneUI (HadesROM). At times I check out AOSP based ROMs just to find out I can't use it anymore. Give it a chance. Isn't MIUI Xiaomi's overlay?
Vatt`ghern said:
Give it a chance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've tried Stock, Hades, Havoc and Derp but nothing compares to the UI/Smoothness that MIUI offers.
Now I'm back on stock because I feel like it's the best of all current options.
I gave it a chance
Removed budget, see edit
Firstly this is not a rant on devs. This is a rant at Realme. And some questions.
Given that this is a pretty popular device with a really capable hardware the seems to be a very low interest in developing official tools for this device like TWRP etc.
There are unofficial methods for unlocking the bootloader but it's Realme's fault to not launch official bootloader unlock tool.
If realme launches the official bootloader unlock tool then can we expect more interest from devs?
Edit: a missing word.
Thanks for bringing this up again... After 6 months with such an intrusive OS without alternative, i regret to have chosen Realme and this device. Please devs, bring us LineageOS fast...
aprilfoo said:
Thanks for bringing this up again... After 6 months with such an intrusive OS without alternative, i regret to have chosen Realme and this device. Please devs, bring us LineageOS fast...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Right? THis is such good hardware.
Fast processor: Check
Good Camera: Check
Fast Charging: Check.
Good software?: big fat X.
There is one super annoying bug and some minor bugs but the big bug wants me to throw the phone at a wall several times a day. I just want Lineage OS or Pixel Experience on my phone.