What's the major differences between all these ROM's!? - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

Hi,
So I'm looking for a ROM for my Pixel 2 XL but the problem is there are freaking tons of ROM's available, a lot of which seem to have the same/similar features which is a waste of developers time and not very useful for the community.
Surely it would make more sense if all the developers worked together on a few major builds, one basing on ASOP, one basing on Lineage and any of the other major bases with an Aroma installer providing options to add custom features?
Regardless of that, the type of ROM is either the "best" one that most of the community agree upon OR one that as similar to stock as possible but with extra tweaks/fixes/battery improvements... etc added to make it a fast, efficient, clean ROM.
I assume then I can get a hold of most of the custom features via a Magisk module or two?
Anyone able to tell me what the major differences are and what one sounds like it best suits me? I don't have the time to go through and install every single one of these ROM's :/
Thanks!

Hyflex said:
Hi,
So I'm looking for a ROM for my Pixel 2 XL
but the problem is there are freaking tons of ROM's available, a lot of which seem to have the same/similar features which is a waste of developers time and not very useful for the community.
Surely it would make more sense if all the developers worked together on a few major builds, one basing on ASOP, one basing on Lineage and any of the other major bases with an Aroma installer providing options to add custom features?
Regardless of that, the type of ROM is either the "best" one that most of the community agree upon OR one that as similar to stock as possible but with extra tweaks/fixes/battery improvements... etc added to make it a fast, efficient, clean ROM.
I assume then I can get a hold of most of the custom features via a Magisk module or two?
Anyone able to tell me what the major differences are and what one sounds like it best suits me? I don't have the time to go through and install every single one of these ROM's :/
Thanks!
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Short of actually installing and running the Roms to see which one fits your needs, looking through the "features" list, or following the change logs to see whats been added/removed would likely be your best bet.
Outside of the above, if you want a close to stock experience with a few custom features, look for a "pure" Rom which will have much fewer custom features in the OP.
Conversely, if you want every tool in the shed on your Rom, find the OP with the mile long list of features.
Pure Roms tend to be more stable as they are close to stock, and feature rich Roms can sometimes be a little buggy because they have 21,548 custom features (and all that extra code) to create opportunities for bugs, lag, conflicts, etc.
If you love to maintain and mess with your device, and don't mind the random minor glitch once in a while, go with the feature rich Roms (use what you like, ignore what you don't)...
If you want a daily driver that rarely needs anything other than a security update and is pretty much rock solid stable, go with the vanilla, pure, close to stock Roms.
Really, only you can determine what Rom is best for you. This doesn't even touch the subject of custom kernels (some Roms accept any cust kernel, some are more picky) color schemes, battery life, over/under clocking, etc. etc...
Good luck!

Well there's kitchen sink roms:
Havoc, bootleggers, colt, xtended, liquid, RR
Simple clean roms:
COSP, carbon, abc, DU, Lineage,
Somewhere in between:
Aex, aosip, pixel dust, scorpion,
Finding a rom with the features you want can be a moving target at times. At least there's no shortage of options hey?

Edmontonchef said:
Well there's kitchen sink roms:
Havoc, bootleggers, colt, xtended, liquid, RR
Simple clean roms:
COSP, carbon, abc, DU, Lineage,
Somewhere in between:
Aex, aosip, pixel dust, scorpion,
Finding a rom with the features you want can be a moving target at times. At least there's no shortage of options hey?
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Add AquariOS to kitchen sink roms.

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Choice of Kernels

I am currently running the latest Incredikernel and it runs just fine to me. Seems to speed up my system most of the time. But I am considering trying invisiblek#28. Which one is better? Should I stick to my current one? or move to the invisiblek?
Invisiblek is for aosp roms and can't be used for sense roms. The two kernels are not interchangeable.
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I am new to the whole ROM and Kernel thing. What exactly is an AOSP rom and how is it different? I currently have the stock rom. Nothing special, except for the incredikernel.
Futur Innovations said:
I am new to the whole ROM and Kernel thing. What exactly is an AOSP rom and how is it different? I currently have the stock rom. Nothing special, except for the incredikernel.
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Basically, there are two types of ROMs for the DInc. Sense, and AOSP. Sense ROMs are based off of HTC's Sense UI (as per the name). Kernels such as incredikernel are designed for such ROMs, and from my understanding are based off of HTC's Kernel source code (or at the least, are designed to work properly with Sense UI).
AOSP ROMs are based off the Android Open Source Project. They're the ones that pull the "Stock Feel" (stock as per Google's UI, anyway), with the exception of MIUI, which is still AOSP but is HEAVILY modified... as much if not more so than Sense, Blur, or other manufacturer UIs, but it complies with Google's design and still uses AOSP kernels.
Anyway, you either use one or the other - so if you use Cyanogen, Ruby, LithiumMod, UltimateDroid, MIUI... ugh, there are tons of AOSP ROMs out there, make sure you use an AOSP kernel. The dev's normally have it blatantly obvious in the title of the thread whether or not it's "sense" or "aosp."
Welcome to the rooting world! Just make sure to do your research before flashing or doing anything and you'll be good. Read, read, read! Even if the thread is like, 500 pages... read em all. I can guarantee all questions have been asked/answered somewhere. Trust me... I'm still trying to keep up with the threads I read, and I've been hardcore in this since I got my DInc on pre-order (back in April).
AOSP stands for "Android Open Source Project" and these do not have the HTC sense features included in the ROMS. Sense ROMS come preloaded with the HTC Sense features ie. Peep, Facebook for HTC Sense, HTC Calender etc...
I have found that I get better battery life with AOSP ROMS since there is not as much syncing activity going on in the background...
How would I go about checking what kind of clockwork mod version? And how do I "flash" a rom? Do I simply install it using the zip just like I did for the incredikernel, or is it another process all together? Oh, and which is the best way to back up everything before installing a rom? Can I jump back and forth between roms as if they were separate home-replacements? Sorry for all the questions. Lol

[Q] Does flashing a custom Desire Rom always involve hassle?

Can one expect a hassle free experience when flashing a Desire ROM?
Apologies if this question covers old ground, but as somebody who used to happily flash their Trinity every other day without fear or problems, I am struggling to find the same experience with Desire.
I've done all the prep work (rooted, S Off, etc) but can't seem to find one custom ROM that does not have specific individual pre-flashing requirements (e.g. ext2 partition as opposed to ext3 or ext4), or post-flashing fixes for problems that can often only be found by wading through pages of thread (e.g. camera won't work unless you...., sms notification won't work unless you......).
Maybe I am being over cautious as the Desire Stock Rom does seem a pretty good ROM already.
What I'm hoping is that people will leave proactive feedback to help people liek me who are concerned that flashing a custom ROM on the Desire is going to bring sleepless nights and hassle in trying to find fixes.
I thank you in advance for any feedback and advice.
Mattster.
Mattster_spv said:
Can one expect a hassle free experience when flashing a Desire ROM?
Apologies if this question covers old ground, but as somebody who used to happily flash their Trinity every other day without fear or problems, I am struggling to find the same experience with Desire.
I've done all the prep work (rooted, S Off, etc) but can't seem to find one custom ROM that does not have specific individual pre-flashing requirements (e.g. ext2 partition as opposed to ext3 or ext4), or post-flashing fixes for problems that can often only be found by wading through pages of thread (e.g. camera won't work unless you...., sms notification won't work unless you......).
Maybe I am being over cautious as the Desire Stock Rom does seem a pretty good ROM already.
What I'm hoping is that people will leave proactive feedback to help people liek me who are concerned that flashing a custom ROM on the Desire is going to bring sleepless nights and hassle in trying to find fixes.
I thank you in advance for any feedback and advice.
Mattster.
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IT completely depends on which ROM you are flashing.. if you want hassle free ROM then flash stable ones.. They may have little bugs but won't bother you....
A good ROM will boost your desire performance Also...
Happy Flashing
DONT FORGET TO HIT THANKS BUTTON AT BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE POST IF THIS HELPS YOU
my experience is mostly positive 10ish roms todate
An ext partition is pretty much standard on most rom's My advice would be to make a 1gb ext4 partition as this is what I've had from the start and never had to re-partition it.
Pick an established rom that has got good feedback in the thread and you'll have no issues.
Some rom's have a few bugs, but some of the better one's are completely bug free.
And once you start flashing and skipping from rom to rom you won't want to stop
zedmarcus said:
An ext partition is pretty much standard on most rom's My advice would be to make a 1gb ext4 partition as this is what I've had from the start and never had to re-partition it.
Pick an established rom that has got good feedback in the thread and you'll have no issues.
Some rom's have a few bugs, but some of the better one's are completely bug free.
And once you start flashing and skipping from rom to rom you won't want to stop
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Thanks Zedmarcus (and everybody else) for the comments. I've done a 1gb and ext4 partition so I'm glad you said that.
Maybe I should go for the Rom in your signature then... I was expecting people to start listing stable roms but I appreciate a lot of it is down to personal choice.
That said, if you want to mention say 3 roms you've had good experiences with that would be good too!
Mattster.
Like you said, most of it comes down to personal choice. And before this turns into another "which rom is best?" "it's all down to personal choice" threads, I'll give you a quick rundown on some of the rom's that I've tried (and/or read about) and my own "personal" views on them.
Basically, there are two main types of rom's:
The first is Sense rom's, which are the stock or modded versions of the standard HTC rom's. Some people swear by them, saying that they have all the stuff you mostly need already on them, and that they have all of the bells and whistles on them to make them look flashy. Other people argue that they are full and bloated with stuff you will probably never need, and this leads to slowdown, lags and generally a less "free" android experience.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961
This is the Sense rom of the moment right now. Originally developed as a personal rom by Sebastiaan15, it's now one of the most posted about rom's. It's a 3.5 Sense rom (the most recent, apart from the newly announced ICS 4.0) that Seb is constantly (ie pretty much every day) updating. From personally trying it I'd say it's a good rom that has a lot of good things going for it, but there are still issues that are being found with it and Seb is constantly fixing and changing things. If you want the latest flashy Sense rom then maybe try it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318370
michaelm_007's 3.5 rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250815
coolexe's 3.5 rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
This is a very stable Sense 2.1+3.0 rom that has lots of users and good reviews. Being a mixed Sense rom it has the stability of a 2.1 rom with some of the bonus bits from 3.0 Unfortunately the developer baadnewz has stopped development on this rom and so what you get is what you get as there are going to be no new versions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
If you are an app addict you might want to try this rom. Droidzone has developed a 1.9 Sense rom that has Data2sd which means that you can dictate the amount of app storage you want. Although not the latest version of Sense, it is stable and fast and Droidzone offers good support.
(Look out for Sense rom's by Alex-V, michaelm_007, coolexe, Droidzone, tamirda, and Leedroid (who is also not developing for the Desire anymore) as these are experienced developers with great rom's available here on XDA).
The second types of rom's are the aosp (Android Open Source Project) rom's. These are non-Sense rom's that run the purest form of the Android operating system without the "bloat" of any HTC Sense over them. Whilst many would argue that they are not so pretty as Sense rom's, a lot of people would say that because they are back to basics (so to speak) rom's, they don't suffer any of the lag caused by the Sense programming. By adding a launcher (such as Go Launcher Ex) from the market they can be just as flashy as a Sense rom. Also aosp rom's are generally better on battery life due to not being as "heavy" as Sense rom's. These are my rom's of choice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957291
miui-xj is a "different" type of aosp rom, that in my opinion borrows a lot form the Apple school of interface. If you are looking for something a little "different" it might be worth a try. I've tried this myself and didn't particularly like the design, but a lot of people like the visual aspect of this rom, along with the themeing side of it. Updated weekly, it is a well supported rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880465
GingerVillain 3.3 is a great aosp rom that the developer (Richard Trip) is very active in the development of (his girlfriend has a Desire so he'd better be ). Offering a fast, stable rom that has added goodies courtesy of Cyanogenmod, I would wholeheartedly recommend trying this rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1229003
Although ihlades has now stopped development of this rom, I would say this is a very fast and stable rom that has no known bugs. This is also one of my favourite rom's and the one I am currently using (don't always believe my sig).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227419
dGB is an extremely "light" aosp rom that has been developed by rootSU (a very active member of this community). Although not to everyone's taste as it is so very light, I found this to be an extremely fast and stable rom (thanks rootSU, I tried it last week and was very impressed, Redux2 dragged me back though ).
Mention must also go to Oxygen (not available here on XDA, but google it), and Cyanogenmod7.
As always (always!) it depends on personal preference.
The views expressed in this post are my own and I don't need to be flamed for putting them here. If I missed any rom's or developers I apologise, this does not mean they are not quality, it just means either I haven't used them or I forgot about them. Any mistakes I'm sure will be pointed out.
I would always recommend reading threads and researching for yourself. Also, experiment, try different rom's and see what works best for you.
I'm sure other users will offer differing opinions, but these are mine.
Hope it helps.
Fantastic help Zedmarcus... thanks very much.
You've given me the confidence to get the most out of my Desire, and hopefully any other new Desire users who read this post.
Looking forward to working through your much appreciated suggestions.
Mattster.
Loving the experience of a ROM with no Sense:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1229003
So much more responsive (especially compared to the custom Sense roms I have now tried) and some of the graphics are wonderful, e.g Keyboard, Caller screen, Messaging. Glad I asked. Hope others are persuaded by this post to take the plunge. Interested in all feedback from new flashers too.
Mattster.

Which CM build do you prefer? ARTER97'S or Sultanxda or PureCM

So guys, what dou think which one do you prefer and why ?
Would be awesome to read some reviews. I really interested which one everyone likes?
Cause i dont know how to edit the pool, you cann vote here for all cm editions you can found or you have tested on the oneplus three.
There are PureCM, Sultanxda CM, Arter97s CM and so on ... If i miss some edition, just write it down and tell me why its good for you
@ZeNiXxX are you able to edit the poll and add "Pure CM" ?
That is the third most interesting "near stock CM" ROM that I'm following because it has just little modifications from official CM (some kernel tweaks and a couple of useful features added, plus built-in root).
With all due respect I find that custom ROMs like Resurrection Remix or PAC go a bit overboard on merging every possible feature.
Not that there is anything wrong with them as long as they keep stability, but the feeling is that those ROMs are bloated with features that I'd not use anyway.
Ah, and for sensible people complaining for this thread: come on, there's nothing wrong to prefer one ROM over another, it's just a matter of personal taste and of features / tweaks added by individual developers.
Why would anyone be offended if I prefer a Mercedes over a BMW, for instance?!?
I have nothing against other roms, but I would suggest to add all CM based roms (including stock cm) into the poll.
Why leave out others?
Giocarro said:
@ZeNiXxX are you able to edit the poll and add "Pure CM" ?
That is the third most interesting "near stock CM" ROM that I'm following because it has just little modifications from official CM (some kernel tweaks and a couple of useful features added, plus built-in root).
With all due respect I find that custom ROMs like Resurrection Remix or PAC go a bit overboard on merging every possible feature.
Not that there is anything wrong with them as long as they keep stability, but the feeling is that those ROMs are bloated with features that I'd not use anyway.
Ah, and for sensible people complaining for this thread: come on, there's nothing wrong to prefer one ROM over another, it's just a matter of personal taste and of features / tweaks added by individual developers.
Why would anyone be offended if I prefer a Mercedes over a BMW, for instance?!?
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AcmE85 said:
I have nothing against other roms, but I would suggest to add all CM based roms (including stock cm) into the poll.
Why leave out others?
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i thought that are the most favourite cm roms here. I'm trying to add the other to, did someone know how to edit the pool ?
Personnaly, I tested out sultan and official CM and I prefer official CM cause more updates, more follow-up, and the SuperSU is integrated so I can use some old Xposed apps that used system root and yet still use the latest version of SuperSu systemless
Sultan ROM is great but not enough updates for me, I'm like a flashoholic. The greatest thing that we can do is merge sultan stuff for the camera in the official CM ROM in order to increase the quality.
For the other ROMs, I find that they bring on too many features and they are really hard to understand sometimes, especially where the features are, etc...
Sultan
arter97 with the kernel. Amazing speed and battery life.
@ZeNiXxX, unlike your previous thread this is good title favoring discussion
None of the above roms i prefer Pure CM and jgcaap's rom. The reason is the great performance stabillity and battery life.
PURE CM
Neither. How about stock.
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Stock? Nahh

About OxygenOS

It might not be the best board to ask about it, but I got my OP3 a few months back, and since then I changed ROMs a lot (like, really a lot). I found myself liking a lot OxygenOS (Oneplus apps like dialer, camera and explorer are really nice, and I'm digging a lot the power menu), but also features from AOSP (statusbar customisation mainly, also Substratum).
So I was wondering if there was any possibility to fuse these roms? I'm a big noob concerning coding on Android, so I might be asking for an absurdity, and I'd like to know why.
Thanks for reading.
Possible? Yes.
Viable? No.
It's A LOT of work to do that. Some things can be easily ported, some are near impossible or won't work as good as they should. For example, OOS camera has been ported to custom ROMs, but some features just don't work.
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Substratum is available on freedom OS which is based on oxygen OS
Its important to know that what you want must be based on oos. So you should look for roms based on oos. Because its much more work to get things from oos to aosp roms.

OS choice.

Hello XDA,
I on my past phones I have used a wide variety of ROMs, but on my OP3 the camera quality drops if it is not OxygenOS based.
My question is, what is the best Oxygen based ROM? I have been using FreedomOS/FOS CE for about a year, but now I see others popping up like Experience ROM.
Which of these two has more features? What other O2 based ROMs are worth nothing?
I haven't had much success with mixing CM and flashable Oxygen camera zips, so that's why I prefer to stick to Oxygen based ROMs.
Thanks
They are pretty similar. I'd prefer Experience because I'd use only the debloated ROM with Arise, Adaway, adfree youtube with supersu. I personally use Sultanxda's cm 13 build. It's stable and camera quality is almost on par with OOS.
Experience and Freedom are pretty much the same.
i personally like FreedomOS more, cause nevax always has some interesting new ideas for features. but if you want completely debloated ROM you can also choose it in aroma installer also.
MarcTremonti said:
Experience and Freedom are pretty much the same.
i personally like FreedomOS more, cause nevax always has some interesting new ideas for features. but if you want completely debloated ROM you can also choose it in aroma installer also.
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Yeah I like the features and the personalized aroma installer. Seems im sticking to FreedomOS then.

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