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Hi all,
Ever since flashing the last CM stable, I've been experiencing terrible boot loops.
Yesterday was the worst, no matter what I did, the phone would either get stuck at the white screen, or get to the CM loading screen and then reboot.
Tried wiping and reflashing, and experienced the same things.
Wiped and reflashed with Fresh 3.4, and it was working for a while. Then, all of a sudden, the phone couldn't pick up Sprint service and started the hands-free activation mode. Low and behold, it goes back into a boot loop.
Now, I'm sitting here on a frozen white screen again.
The funny thing is, the phone will randomly reboot sometimes during a wipe or a flash using Clockwork.
Any ideas? I see a few similar posts but none describing the same issue with Sense based (not CM) roms.
Thanks
So I just tried the following and I am frozen at the white screen:
- wipe data/cache/dalvik twice
- flash Fresh 3.2 (sense based rom)
Tried doing a Nandroid restore. Seemed to be going OK for a while until the phone just rebooted during the restore. WTF? Is this a problem with the SD card?
Was finally able to do a nandroid restore to an older CM. Formatted the SD card. Going to re-flash to another ROM now.
Menotti said:
Was finally able to do a nandroid restore to an older CM. Formatted the SD card. Going to re-flash to another ROM now.
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Back into a reboot loop after full wipe and new ROM flash. What gives?
Best way to start over?
Damn phone is freezing just trying to go into Recovery :/
Phone reboots when trying to flash something in Recovery. Jeez...
can anyone offer an advice? i'm drowning here...
Flashed RA recovery. Thing still randomly reboots when wiping or flashing ROMs. Ugh.
It's rebooting while in recovery?!?! Wow man, it sounds like your hardware is messed up. I've never heard of a phone rebooting while in recovery. You may need to get a replacement
Yes, I had this problem. The processor was overheating. The phone was replaced. Hopefully you can unroot so you can get yours replaced. I had trouble unrooting because it kept rebooting during the process, took a good 3-4 hours.
Leukay said:
It's rebooting while in recovery?!?! Wow man, it sounds like your hardware is messed up. I've never heard of a phone rebooting while in recovery. You may need to get a replacement
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Yeah it reboots while in recovery. Like, I'll be doing a wipe and the phone will reboot.
So far I've tried a number of RUUs and stock PC36IMG from flashboot all with the same result - the device will get into the OS and then just reboot. This will loop 3 or 4 times and then get frozen at the white screen.
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Yes, I had this problem. The processor was overheating. The phone was replaced. Hopefully you can unroot so you can get yours replaced. I had trouble unrooting because it kept rebooting during the process, took a good 3-4 hours.
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Ah weird. If I am S-ON I'm good to go? Sounds like I need a manufacturer's replacement if I don't have the insurance, right?
I went to sprint for my replacement. I called HTC first, but they were going to charge me, which I am not ok with doing while the phone is still under warranty. At sprint, they asked me to replicate the reboot and when I did, they ordered the replacement on the spot. My problem had gotten to the point that I knew how to make it happen on the spot, though. You may have to do some quick talking if you can't reproduce the problem right away. But, you should be able to get a free replacement.
ETA: I don't have the insurance. As long as your phone is under a year, which it is, sprint has to honor the manufacturer 1 year warranty.
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I went to sprint for my replacement. I called HTC first, but they were going to charge me, which I am not ok with doing while the phone is still under warranty. At sprint, they asked me to replicate the reboot and when I did, they ordered the replacement on the spot. My problem had gotten to the point that I knew how to make it happen on the spot, though. You may have to do some quick talking if you can't reproduce the problem right away. But, you should be able to get a free replacement.
ETA: I don't have the insurance. As long as your phone is under a year, which it is, sprint has to honor the manufacturer 1 year warranty.
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K, I'm going to try to walk in and do that.
I called one of the repair centers and they said they'd only be able to look at it, but would triage back to HTC for warranty repair.
Called HTC, they're talking 2-4 weeks for repair.
You think if I walk in one of the Sprint places and repro, they will replace on the spot? Sounds like they don't do that.
I called sprint and made an appointment. You must not tell then you rooted at any point or they will not honor the warranty. If at all possible, don't mention going into recovery. Try to reproduce the problem some other way. They will not charge you and they will either give you the replacement if they have it or order it and it will arrive the next day.
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I called sprint and made an appointment. You must not tell then you rooted at any point or they will not honor the warranty. If at all possible, don't mention going into recovery. Try to reproduce the problem some other way. They will not charge you and they will either give you the replacement if they have it or order it and it will arrive the next day.
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Thanks, I will try this tomorrow.
I had it in a semi working state today, got back S-OFF and .76 HBOOT. Had CM 6.1 running for hours. Went to check it a lil while ago, just messing around in the UI and the thing reboots. Reboot loop begins at that point. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, sounding more and more like hardware.
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Thanks, I will try this tomorrow.
I had it in a semi working state today, got back S-OFF and .76 HBOOT. Had CM 6.1 running for hours. Went to check it a lil while ago, just messing around in the UI and the thing reboots. Reboot loop begins at that point. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, sounding more and more like hardware.
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Did an RUU to the latest for craps and giggles. This makes S-ON and HBOOT .97. Same issue, get to OS, random reboot, the reboot loop.
This is easily producible and now that I am in S-ON and no recovery installed, I should hopefully be able to replace it. Definitely hardware, possibly CPU overheat from what I've read earlier.
I'm afraid my sprint store may force me to go direct to the manufacturer since this would be a manufacturer warranty repair. they told me over the phone (sprint corp) that this is the policy. I'll walk in and try.
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Did an RUU to the latest for craps and giggles. This makes S-ON and HBOOT .97. Same issue, get to OS, random reboot, the reboot loop.
This is easily producible and now that I am in S-ON and no recovery installed, I should hopefully be able to replace it. Definitely hardware, possibly CPU overheat from what I've read earlier.
I'm afraid my sprint store may force me to go direct to the manufacturer since this would be a manufacturer warranty repair. they told me over the phone (sprint corp) that this is the policy. I'll walk in and try.
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So I went to the Sprint store today. I pretty easily reproduced the issue.
My options were to go through HTC for manufacturer's warranty, or have it replaced on the spot. Problem is that Sprint charges a $35 "replacement fee" for the convenience. I felt my time (3-4 weeks through HTC) was worth more than the fee, so I paid it and was on my way.
That's interesting. I did not have to pay for my replacement and I did not have to go through HTC who did try to make me pay.
Background: Very familiar with the Eris, rooted it, flash ROMs frequently, never had an issue.
So I bought the phone on eBay, only issue was the phone was a bit beat up and the screen had been replaced. No big deal. Turned it on everything was fine, worked for about a day, then I decided to flash another ROM. Flashed the ROM and the phone would reboot every time I got to the lock screen UNLESS I had signal, then it would work. This issue happens to EVERY ROM I flash. I wiped cache,dvlik-orwhatever, full wipe, everything each time I would flash a ROM, and none of them have been stable. After flashing the first ROM I also ran into the turn off and vibrate 5 times with a flashing green light problem. I have gotten out of this twice with the USB pull method. I have researched these issues, I have tried flashing quite a few ROMs, and nothing seems to work flawlessly. Is the DI just a terrible phone or do I just have a bad unit? The main issue seems to be with signal, such as if I go from airplane mode on to off it will reboot and then get stuck in a boot cycle and the issue with flashing the phone and having to have signal before I can unlock the phone.
I am currently about to flash the PB31IMG to see if it will resolve the issues and then attempt to re-root. Any advice would be greatly appreciated as nothing has seemed to work so far. I would key you into what I have tried but I don't remember. Basically all the things to fix the 5 vibrate issue and general flashing woes.
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Still no good. Flashed the PB31IMG via vol. down and power and it still did a reboot. Unlocked, got to the white HTC screen, and restarted. Booted the second time, got to the lockscreen, and rebooted before I could even slide down the unlock. Third reboot, got to activation this time, then it rebooted. Fourth reboot, go to activation, then rebooted. Fifth reboot, got to lockscreen, then rebooted before I could slide down.
So yeah. basically you can see what I am dealing with. And it is not fun. I have tried SD card in, SD card out. Just did its 6th reboot, didnt even get to the unlock screen before rebooting.
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Link to the video of whats happening. Nothing special and I recorded it with my Eris, but you'll at least see the timing of the reboots and what not. And ignore the breathing. lol. Just turn off the sound. Right after the video ended it did a 5 vibe. Pulled the battery and now it's just doing bootloops.
I have never had the random reboots before, at least not at the rate and consistency you have been. To me it sounds like something went wrong in the rooting process and I would recommend unrooting and rerooting.
As for the flashing green light and 5 vibrates, I have so insight on this. It can happen if you press power and Vol+. I think it puts it in a safety mode and the only way to get out of it is a battery pull. So if you ever get stuck in a situation like this wait 10 minutes and try to turn it back on normally. If this doesn't work try booting into hboot (power + vol down) if this doesn't work power + vol up has worked for some people too.
There are cases however, where battery pulls don't help either. And no matter what the person tries the phone won't turn back on. This is a hardware problem and the only way to fix this is getting a new phone.
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I have never had the random reboots before, at least not at the rate and consistency you have been. To me it sounds like something went wrong in the rooting process and I would recommend unrooting and rerooting.
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Would flashing the PB13IMG in Hboot unroot it or would I need to follow the guide? Just curious as I have never unrooted before, but I do know there is a guide for it.
The 5 vibrate thing is under control, it just has happened so I wanted to make it known.
And thanks for the info.
I would follow the guide for it, it would be the easiest and safest way and if you run into any problems they would be able to help you out and know exactly what to tell you. I have yet to unroot too so I don't want to tell you something without being 100% sure so I recommend the guide.
Alright, so it turns out flashing the image I flashed via Hboot is a way to unroot. :/ And that is when I got all the reboots in the beginning (the ones specifically posted, its not the first time). I am going to flash again once more to see if I can get a flawless start.
Still no good, flashed it again via Hboot and it restarted again. This timeat the white HTC screen after unlocking but before activation. :? Hm. Better than nothing, after the first reboot it fully loaded and everything is fine so far. Lets just home it doesn't slowly begin to degrade like last time.
A while ago while running the peanut stock ROM, every time my phone would reboot some apps would loose information (such as log in) and I was eventually unable to access the EPST settings.
If you rerooted your phone you could try to go into hboot and then recovery and "fix permissions." I am not sure if this will do any good but it couldn't hurt.
Also if it is unrooted you could try to bring it in to Verizon and see if they will give you a new phone or a restored one.
Make sure you have the stock Rom if you bring it back to Verizon also
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sorry to hear this happened on an ebay phone... I've had it happen to 3 of mine... warranty took care of it since I'm still within my date. but after one year what do I do? luckily I bought my bros early upgrade meaning the Inc2 will suffice until april 2012
ohh yea my point sorry: I had an Eris before the Inc. //////had many problems after 5 they gave me the Inc if I agreed to drop my current one year contract and get a new two year paying the two year price PLUS got credited $199 for the Eris, and got to keep it, so I thought I made out until I realized this phone isn't gunna last two years. ANYWAY. I bought the Eris off Ebay, they gave me warranty after warranty no problem, best of luck
I have had my Inc for a year and have not had any issues. I would say you bought a bad model from someone on eBay. The 5vibration green light is indicative of a hardware failure and I have not seen anyone have a fix for it.
Sorry to say but I have seen no one, NO ONE recovery from the 5 vibs of death. From what I have gathered it is some sort of qualcomm download mode and I know of no way out. I have a feeling it is caused by pressing the vol + and vol - and power while trying to get into hboot.
This is just an uneducated guess. If your willing to part with the device I would love to get my hands on a 5 vibs phone.
Since it happens when the phone loses the signal, I'm wondering if it might be a radio issue. Which radio version is installed? It could be incompatible for your area/ROM/whatever.
Another thought: you said the screen was changed out. It is very possible that the kernal installed won't work for an lcd screen.
Anyway, more things to check and to test. Good luck!
mine always happened when i accidently pushed the vol + instead of vol -
twice it happened
ACD168 said:
mine always happened when i accidently pushed the vol + instead of vol -
twice it happened
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That should be 3 vibs, not the 5.
they both won't work after wards thought as far as my testing.. had to get warranty replacements
I remember reading Chingy fixed 5 vib. It's not the end. I've seen other people fix it with ruu.
I couldnt fix mine when I got the 5 vibrations and I tried everything. My theory is that it has something to do with a messed up kernel flash since the baseband and kernel are apparently linked and I saw somewhere that flashing the same baseband 2x will cause this. It happened to me when I tried to flash a kernel twice (the first time it failed), some people could be getting this when flashing roms since they install new kernels also.
You can flash radios and kernals twice. There was one leaked radio in the past that caused problems from being flashed twice, but it isn't typical
Edit: I think chingy said something about trying a hundred different things, but eventually he got it to work by connecting to PC with battery removed. I could be wrong though because I read that post months ago. I know he got it working again by wiping system and starting fresh
I had the 5 vibs on mine a few weeks ago. It was an unfortunate event. I had the phone for almost a year, bought it new too. I had probably flashed at least a hundred times (thank you nighties for feeding my ROM flashing addiction) but I digress.
I was at work when it happened. If I remember right I believe I was re-installing a pandora apk when my phone did the vibs and led. As an fyi it is the same apk I am using now and it works fine. I initially thought oh well I'll fix it when I get home, surely someone has the answer...sadly not. I spent quite a while searching threads and google to no avail.
I was able to get it unrooted through hboot tho. I was also able to get it to boot when usb was connected to my PC, but as soon as I unplugged it would do the vibs again.
I don't like to admit defeat, but I had clearly lost. I called and got a replacement device sent (and an extended battery because the guy thought it could have been a battery issue, lucky me)
All I can do now is hope it doesn't happen again, but if it does hello warranty man. If someone does find a fix I would love to know about it for future reference.
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I had the 5 vibs on mine a few weeks ago. It was an unfortunate event. I had the phone for almost a year, bought it new too. I had probably flashed at least a hundred times (thank you nighties for feeding my ROM flashing addiction) but I digress.
I was at work when it happened. If I remember right I believe I was re-installing a pandora apk when my phone did the vibs and led. As an fyi it is the same apk I am using now and it works fine. I initially thought oh well I'll fix it when I get home, surely someone has the answer...sadly not. I spent quite a while searching threads and google to no avail.
I was able to get it unrooted through hboot tho. I was also able to get it to boot when usb was connected to my PC, but as soon as I unplugged it would do the vibs again.
I don't like to admit defeat, but I had clearly lost. I called and got a replacement device sent (and an extended battery because the guy thought it could have been a battery issue, lucky me)
All I can do now is hope it doesn't happen again, but if it does hello warranty man. If someone does find a fix I would love to know about it for future reference.
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I think the 3, vibrate and 5 vibrate are connected because both times I had the 3 vib I had the same problems, would turn on when connected to usb then 3 vib and green flashing light... weird.
If I posted this in the incorrect place or there is something related to my issue, I apologize in advance.
I've been searching here and all over the internet and no progress yet so I decided to make a new account here just to see if anyone can help me because I'm out of ideas right now.
This morning my Nexus 5x (Non-rooted Nougat) woke me up like every morning, after dismissing the alarm I left it on my bed and when I came back to grab it later I noticed it shut off.
Here are the facts and what I have tried so far:
- Battery level was almost full
- I tried to turn it on but nothing happened, not even the Google logo
- Connected it to power and no icons or any response at all
- Left it connected for like an hour and tried to get it into recovery mode
- I was able to get into fastboot mode a few times but after electing "start" or "recovery mode" the Google logo comes up and then shuts off again right after.
- Tried getting into recovery mode after leaving it charging for a while again but I couldn't even get into fastboot this time, no signs of life at all.
- Disconnected the battery for a few minutes and tried to get into fastboot mode again, this time it worked but same thing happened. (Google logo then shuts off)
- Tried connecting it to my PC but doesn't show up on Linux nor Windows, on Windows it makes the sound like I connected a peripheral but that's pretty much it.
- I have USB debugging enable but never accessed my stuff through usb connection because I have had this issue before where it is connected but it won't show up or it shows up but won't let me access the files even though the phone is unlocked.
At this point it just won't do anything and I ran out of ideas. I just want to at least recover some pictures and information I have in it that isn't backed up, if anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance
It sounds like you might have encountered the hardware bootloop issue. This is theorized to be caused by bad solder for the eMMC chip or bad eMMC chip. This was an acknowledge problem on a related model LG phone, but hasn't been acknowledged for N5x.
If you are under warranty, you should start the replacement process before it runs out.
If you want to try something that sounds crazy but has worked for some people, put the phone in the freezer for 15 minutes then see if it boots. If it does, quickly back up as much data as you can, then wipe the phone in preparation to RMA exchange.
Just boot to bootloader (fastboot) then unlock it and flash a factory image... u can find many guides to this operation on the XDA
sfhub said:
It sounds like you might have encountered the hardware bootloop issue. This is theorized to be caused by bad solder for the eMMC chip or bad eMMC chip. This was an acknowledge problem on a related model LG phone, but hasn't been acknowledged for N5x.
If you are under warranty, you should start the replacement process before it runs out.
If you want to try something that sounds crazy but has worked for some people, put the phone in the freezer for 15 minutes then see if it boots. If it does, quickly back up as much data as you can, then wipe the phone in preparation to RMA exchange.
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At this point, I'm willing to try anything. Thanks
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Just boot to bootloader (fastboot) then unlock it and flash a factory image... u can find many guides to this operation on the XDA
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If it's a hardware issue like sfhub suggested, I don't think this will fix it.
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If it's a hardware issue like sfhub suggested, I don't think this will fix it.
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Same here... cannot enter recovery mode, so flashed new rom stock rom.
The flashing was fine but it didn't help.
guys if u can get to the bootloader, sure it can be fixed.. everything is possible with the fastboot, u can fix any issue. if it's a hardware issue the bootloader wouldn't work as well.
Re Nexus 5X won't turn on - I've had same issue
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This morning my Nexus 5x (Non-rooted Nougat) woke me up like every morning, after dismissing the alarm I left it on my bed and when I came back to grab it later I noticed it shut off.
Here are the facts and what I have tried so far:
- Battery level was almost full
- I tried to turn it on but nothing happened, not even the Google logo
- Connected it to power and no icons or any response at all
- Left it connected for like an hour and tried to get it into recovery mode
- I was able to get into fastboot mode a few times but after electing "start" or "recovery mode" the Google logo comes up and then shuts off again right after.
- Tried getting into recovery mode after leaving it charging for a while again but I couldn't even get into fastboot this time, no signs of life at all.
- Disconnected the battery for a few minutes and tried to get into fastboot mode again, this time it worked but same thing happened. (Google logo then shuts off)
- Tried connecting it to my PC but doesn't show up on Linux nor Windows, on Windows it makes the sound like I connected a peripheral but that's pretty much it.
- I have USB debugging enable but never accessed my stuff through usb connection because I have had this issue before where it is connected but it won't show up or it shows up but won't let me access the files even though the phone is unlocked.
At this point it just won't do anything and I ran out of ideas...
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I've had the same problem with my 5X, except my alarm didn't even go off! I woke up 15 minutes late to see the boot screen "enter your pattern to start Android". I entered my pattern and it looked like it was going to boot up but when I went back to it it was blank. Tried again, got to the Google loading dots and it switched off again and I haven't been able to power it up since. No bootloader, nothing. Tried all the troubleshooting steps on the Nexus Google Support pages (I did post a link but because I'm new it won't show, so just Google "Nexus Support") and nothing worked. I also knew the battery was fully charged because it had been on charge overnight and when I did get to the 'enter your pattern' screen, the battery icon in the notification bar was full.
I requested a call back from Google and nothing happened so I tried the chat and they said it sounded like a hardware issue and are sending me a replacement device within the next 3-5 working days. Good that they're replacing it. Bad that it happened on a device less than a year old and they only offered £10 Play Store credit by way of compensation, when I've had to spend £15+ on a PAYG sim card to use in my old phone in the meantime because the nano sim in my 5X was too small and I've spent over an hour and half this afternoon wasting my time with troubleshooting and waiting for a call back... Not really the customer service I expected from Google for what appears to be a hardware issue. If you bought the phone from Google, my advice would be to get in touch with Google Support and they should replace it under warranty.
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I've had the same problem with my 5X, except my alarm didn't even go off! I woke up 15 minutes late to see the boot screen "enter your pattern to start Android". I entered my pattern and it looked like it was going to boot up but when I went back to it it was blank. Tried again, got to the Google loading dots and it switched off again and I haven't been able to power it up since. No bootloader, nothing. Tried all the troubleshooting steps on the Nexus Google Support pages (I did post a link but because I'm new it won't show, so just Google "Nexus Support") and nothing worked. I also knew the battery was fully charged because it had been on charge overnight and when I did get to the 'enter your pattern' screen, the battery icon in the notification bar was full.
I requested a call back from Google and nothing happened so I tried the chat and they said it sounded like a hardware issue and are sending me a replacement device within the next 3-5 working days. Good that they're replacing it. Bad that it happened on a device less than a year old and they only offered £10 Play Store credit by way of compensation, when I've had to spend £15+ on a PAYG sim card to use in my old phone in the meantime because the nano sim in my 5X was too small and I've spent over an hour and half this afternoon wasting my time with troubleshooting and waiting for a call back... Not really the customer service I expected from Google for what appears to be a hardware issue. If you bought the phone from Google, my advice would be to get in touch with Google Support and they should replace it under warranty.
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I contacted Google and they didn't help me at all because my warranty expired last month, they literally just told me to put in a repair request at the LG repair webpage....this sucks
My experience exactly...
My wife's Nexus 5 exhibited the exact same symptoms this morning. It's been running perfectly for 20 months and today it died, and we're unable to even get into the bootloader screen or power on the phone.
Taking your advice, we put it in the freezer for 15 minutes and were able to perform a factory reset wiping all data from the phone. We are going to take advantage of Google's Christmas 2017 promotion and return the Nexus 5X and buy a Moto 4X. They require you perform a factory reset before returning the phone in order to receive a credit for the returned Nexus 5. Thank you so much for the help!
Dennis
sfhub said:
It sounds like you might have encountered the hardware bootloop issue. This is theorized to be caused by bad solder for the eMMC chip or bad eMMC chip. This was an acknowledge problem on a related model LG phone, but hasn't been acknowledged for N5x.
If you are under warranty, you should start the replacement process before it runs out.
If you want to try something that sounds crazy but has worked for some people, put the phone in the freezer for 15 minutes then see if it boots. If it does, quickly back up as much data as you can, then wipe the phone in preparation to RMA exchange.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/help-nexus-5x-lg-off-to-t3729739
I've just posted this thread overlooking yours. I think this is becoming another common issue. Has the freezer trick worked with anybody else?
I am having the same issue described here. My Nexus 5x went into a Bootloop about one month ago, but I was able to get it working again by going into Recovery Mode. About 4 days ago it went into a constant Bootloop, just showing the Google screen, and I couldnt get back in to recovery mode. I ordered a new phone on Tuesday (Pixel 2) and as long as I am able to do a factory reset I should get a $150 credit when I send this phone back. So, in desperation, I took a chance on the 15 minute freezer trick, and it worked! I was able to get into recovery mode (power + volume down, select Recovery Mode, little dude on his back came up, pushed power + volume up once) and cleared the cache and applied the factory reset. Ridiculous that this phone only lasted 18 months, but if I get the $150 credit I will be happy.
Same problem here -- just froze for a few seconds, powered off, and won't turn back on. Not a boot loop issue as there is no response at all from any buttons. Swapping the mainboard from a working phone powered up without a problem, but obviously that's the other phone's emmc.
I tried the freezer thing and it sort of worked- LCD powered on for a couple seconds, but then shut back off again and even that only happened once. That's progress over the usual absolutely no response though... Anyone have insight into why the temperature would matter? something is overheating that this gives a bit of wiggle room since it starts much colder than usual? maybe a more complex analog electronic situation?
I would happily pull the flash chip off and put it in a emmc reader, but I think I'm out of luck because from what I've read the dm-crypt key is generated from some data stored in in the processor's trust zone thing. I know the "password" but if that's only part of what makes the key and the rest isn't on the flash chip I suppose there's no point in going that route.
I don't care about the hardware surviving; mostly just looking to recover my data. Anyone have suggestions? Hardware debugging direction? I'm willing to buy some electronics test equipment (within reason of course; not picking up a 10000USD rework station for some old photos and contact list...)
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Same problem here -- just froze for a few seconds, powered off, and won't turn back on. Not a boot loop issue as there is no response at all from any buttons. Swapping the mainboard from a working phone powered up without a problem, but obviously that's the other phone's emmc.
I tried the freezer thing and it sort of worked- LCD powered on for a couple seconds, but then shut back off again and even that only happened once. That's progress over the usual absolutely no response though... Anyone have insight into why the temperature would matter? something is overheating that this gives a bit of wiggle room since it starts much colder than usual? maybe a more complex analog electronic situation?
I would happily pull the flash chip off and put it in a emmc reader, but I think I'm out of luck because from what I've read the dm-crypt key is generated from some data stored in in the processor's trust zone thing. I know the "password" but if that's only part of what makes the key and the rest isn't on the flash chip I suppose there's no point in going that route.
I don't care about the hardware surviving; mostly just looking to recover my data. Anyone have suggestions? Hardware debugging direction? I'm willing to buy some electronics test equipment (within reason of course; not picking up a 10000USD rework station for some old photos and contact list...)
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The only way to connect that buddy to PC is to get SoC (CPU) working, so theoretically you can go towards reballing the chip. But I guess it's not an easy thing for such a little chip. Also u will need kinda plate for balls, i think there are no common ones, so u can make it yourself if have a technical education.
Another way is to connect memory right to PC without a phone but with some connector. IDK if there are any available, but this looks much more simple. I actually got the same happened, and tried to heat the plate, but with particular success.
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Another way is to connect memory right to PC without a phone but with some connector. IDK if there are any available, but this looks much more simple. I actually got the same happened, and tried to heat the plate, but with particular success.
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Here's the reader
https://www.amazon.com/ALLSOCKET-eMMC169-Programmer-Kingston-Interface/dp/B06Y55DKND/
But I assume the problem is I will not be able to generate the encryption key because part of it is in the processor.
If someone has tried this and it definitely works, I'll give it a go. Just don't want to buy the emmc reader and heat gun this chip off if it's certainly a waste of time.
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Here's the reader
https://www.amazon.com/ALLSOCKET-eMMC169-Programmer-Kingston-Interface/dp/B06Y55DKND/
But I assume the problem is I will not be able to generate the encryption key because part of it is in the processor.
If someone has tried this and it definitely works, I'll give it a go. Just don't want to buy the emmc reader and heat gun this chip off if it's certainly a waste of time.
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I've seen a post of a guy who sent his motherboard to china and got reballed it and gained 4gb of ram. Can be wrong, but it was around $50 and a month of time.
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Actually found the post itself: https://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=722679&st=3440#entry68093395 (it's in russian, so u're welcome at translate.google.com) In short - a guy fount a Chinese service and men in the middle who could resend his motherboard to china, it cost him $100
Installed CyanogenMOD and it still resets, locks up and has other performance related issues.
I did an OTA update to Marshmallow originally. This corrupted my SD card and then caused about 10 resets a day, ranging from when I was using it lightly to heavily or even when it was sleeping/screen off. If I woke it up it would reset or I could feel it reset when it was in my pocket.
First thing I did was a factory reset. I tried other tricks such as swapping out the battery, SD card (or none at all), clearing cache, etc.... Nothing worked. So I tried installing CyanogenMOD, and I failed. But I got the phone back to BPA1. I updated back to marshmallow via my computer and the Verizon software updater.
About a day later the resets and lockups came back. I kept it light of apps but did slowly begin to reinstall some of my usuals (from the play store).
I had some more time so I tried installing Cyan again and was successful. It took a long time to load and optimize but it worked. I used gapps mini and the only step I did not follow in the guide was I did not install xposed.
It's been running for about 12 hours and has hanged, locked up and rebooted on me multiple times. Chrome even locks up (it will stop resounding, I'll get the message asking if I want to wait or close at the same time it starts responding again.)
When it reboots, it still takes forever and even optimizes apps (that I assume have already been optimized). I've seen two boot screens for it, one the little alien guy and the other with gears turning. It did the gears the second time I booted and then I haven't seen them again.
I'm not sure what my next step should be. Maybe I'll try reflashing Cyanogen. I have a feeling it's a hardware issue at this point, but I'm open to ideas. Are there any good diagnostic tools that could help my situation?
The phone is out of warranty and I'm sure that now that I've installed Cyanogen, the warranty was voided anyway. It's a shame because this phone was perfect up until the marshmallow update. I probably had 5 lockup/boots in the year or two I've had it.
Why are you using cyanogenmod in the first place. The support for that has ended. Go to the lineage os nougat thread and use that instead.
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Why are you using cyanogenmod in the first place. The support for that has ended. Go to the lineage os nougat thread and use that instead.
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Admittedly, I did not even know about lineage until my phone was wiped with no OS. I did a quick Google search for it but could not find a Verizon note 4 mod. Now that I am not pressured to find a fix, I'll research it a bit more. Thank you.
I tried EmotionOS and NSeven, but both share the same error.
Emotion FCs random processes sporadically and then when my cell/data switches to Searching, it crashes multiple processes until the UI (trebuchet is default for Emotion?) and/or settings FCs and I have to restart. I am also stuck on 3G on that platform. I'm guessing network connectivity / switching is the root of the problems.
Nseven installed and right at the Welcome Screen where I pick my language, Google Play Services started crashing. I only had the option to click OK and then every 5 seconds after that, it kept crashing. I set up the phone, restarted and Google Play Services started crashing again. I am in the process of restoring back to Emotion, as it is the most stable platform so far.
I tried a new SIM card, hoping this was the problem but to no avail.
Does anyone have any other suggestions? I'm guessing its hardware at this point, but since it happened on an OTA Update and I can reproduce the same errors every time, I'm hoping there's still an option left for a fix.
Holy crap. As I was typing this and restoring Emotion, it fully installed and booted. I have 4G! I don't know if that will fix the FC issues, but I have regained a little hope!
I'm still getting FCs and restarts. The more I use it the more it happens, but at least with EmotionOS, It's more limited. Only about 3 or 4 a day compared to 10-20.
I'll try one more flash and I guess tough it out until my contract is up in April.
I can't help you with EmotionOS (haven't tried it yet), but if you want to stop the Google Play Services crashing in NSeven you can make your way to Settings - Applications, then select Google Play Services - Permissions and give it all permissions. It's a bit of a chore to get there when the warning pops up every five seconds, but it will stop once you do that.
So my plan is up and I'm probably switching away from Samsung after this incident. Looking into the pixel or XL. If the v20 is out for Verizon, I might get that but I'll see what looks good when I go to the store today or tomorrow.
I think I've narrowed down my issue to a heat issue. I fixed the 4g and Google play crashes but my phone still locks up or apps start a cascade of crashes. If I power down, I can't restart the phone. If I restart, it powers down but does not turn back on. I remove the battery for 10+ seconds, put it back in for 10+ seconds and it won't turn back on. I'll leave the battery out for minutes to an hour and its a crap shoot.
I can only boot normally or to download mode. TWRP no longer loads. I tried reflashing it and I get a no pit fail. I'd probably look into fixing this but at this point it's not worth it.
What I discovered works is putting the battery and phone on a cool surface, putting the battery back in and placing that on a cool surface and then try to boot up. However, neither my phone nor the battery feel warm to the touch. So that indicates to me something is either off in the sensors, preventing it from turning on or more likely it's a power issue or at least a hardware issue, preventing a constant current or something along those lines. Dips in power could explain apps crashing and the system inexplicably turning off. It would also explain why I can't turn it on easily.
It's really a shame because I liked this phone so much and if the new note was out, I might give it the benefit of the doubt. But last night my Samsung tablet decided to install the updates I've been putting off because they're the same ones that broke this phone. So timing wise, I'm done with Samsung and will try a new brand. Only issue I see with pixel is it doesn't have a removable battery so hopefully I don't run into this issue on that device!
Thanks for all the help xda. If it was a solvable problem, I'm sure I could have fixed it with your help.
Final entry.
I got the v20, and spent a day trying to get my note back to factory. I thought I was doing something wrong, but eventually flashed a kernel, recovery, bootloader and then full Rom (I think it was BPA1 but it could have been CPF3, I don't have it in front of me). I was getting error after error, no PIT partition, mmc check fail, use the Samsung Recovery Assistant, and a few others (again, it's not in front of me so I may have gotten it wrong). The big one was a write disk failure when I was trying to flash the full Rom. I fixed that by flashing kernel, bootloader, recovery, then sticking the battery and the phone on the freezer for ~5 minutes before trying to flash the full Rom.
I updated via USB after that using recovery assistant. Probably completely unnecessary, they just needed to get to the factory reset screen, but when I bought my phone, I couldn't trade in the note because i couldn't turn it on. They gave me $86 for it. Anything less and i would have considered just taking a hammer and microwave to it. Good riddance!
Still a little sad, I loved this phone right up until marshmallow dishonored and killed her.
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Final entry.
I got the v20, and spent a day trying to get my note back to factory. I thought I was doing something wrong, but eventually flashed a kernel, recovery, bootloader and then full Rom (I think it was BPA1 but it could have been CPF3, I don't have it in front of me). I was getting error after error, no PIT partition, mmc check fail, use the Samsung Recovery Assistant, and a few others (again, it's not in front of me so I may have gotten it wrong). The big one was a write disk failure when I was trying to flash the full Rom. I fixed that by flashing kernel, bootloader, recovery, then sticking the battery and the phone on the freezer for ~5 minutes before trying to flash the full Rom.
I updated via USB after that using recovery assistant. Probably completely unnecessary, they just needed to get to the factory reset screen, but when I bought my phone, I couldn't trade in the note because i couldn't turn it on. They gave me $86 for it. Anything less and i would have considered just taking a hammer and microwave to it. Good riddance!
Still a little sad, I loved this phone right up until marshmallow dishonored and killed her.
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I know a lot of people are blaming software, but I'm fairly certain that the problems in many cases are caused by failing hardware. I went through many of the same trials and tribulations with my Note 4 (except I never rooted the phone). I finally contacted Samsung Customer Support and sent the phone in for repair. They replaced a lot of the hardware including the motherboard and returned the phone in "like new" condition. I've been using it for a few weeks now and the performance is flawless.
I was planning to get either the V20 or the G6 if I wasn't able to get the phone fixed. How do you like the V20?
I'd agree that it's most likely hardware and having to put everything in the freezer for it to when confirms it for me although I have no real expertise to say so. But I'd argue that the update created the hardware issue, it was night and day with the update. It was working 100% and then directly after the update to marshmallow, it started having catastrophic issues. Oh well, it's nice not having to pull the battery every hour or so.
V20 is pretty nice. Having used EmotionOS for a few months the switch to the Nougat was pretty smooth. The xda forums for it are a little more limited but I didn't start messing with my phone until it broke and I'm hesitant to try with a new phone given my limited knowhow.
To be honest it's not a big difference in day to day usage from the note 4. Which I like!
+ I never used the finger print scanner but really like it on the v20. I didn't bother with a screen lock before but now I'm protected and have a just as quick access.
-the grip is too slick, I feel like I will drop it. The note had that rougher back which I liked better. A case or a replacement cover should fix that though.
+ I like this top menu screen, I have quick access to a few select apps or can turn the flashlight on or whatever. I'd like it more customizable, I find I switch screens too much when trying to just pull my top menu down. If I could put everything on one tab and combine their special buttons (ie the flashlight button) with apps, it would be perfect.
-the back button and menu button are switched. I can probably customize that but I don't yet know how and by the time I figure it out, I will have relearned that habit. It actually is probably a better placement for how I hold the phone but I'm a big fan of choices.
+ upgraded camera, sound, storage. I don't notice the screen size difference, but it is a lighter phone.
-bloatware
All in all its a good shift from the note 4. I'm happy to be off of Samsung and still have the same basic user experience.
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So my plan is up and I'm probably switching away from Samsung after this incident. Looking into the pixel or XL. If the v20 is out for Verizon, I might get that but I'll see what looks good when I go to the store today or tomorrow.
I think I've narrowed down my issue to a heat issue. I fixed the 4g and Google play crashes but my phone still locks up or apps start a cascade of crashes. If I power down, I can't restart the phone. If I restart, it powers down but does not turn back on. I remove the battery for 10+ seconds, put it back in for 10+ seconds and it won't turn back on. I'll leave the battery out for minutes to an hour and its a crap shoot.
I can only boot normally or to download mode. TWRP no longer loads. I tried reflashing it and I get a no pit fail. I'd probably look into fixing this but at this point it's not worth it.
What I discovered works is putting the battery and phone on a cool surface, putting the battery back in and placing that on a cool surface and then try to boot up. However, neither my phone nor the battery feel warm to the touch. So that indicates to me something is either off in the sensors, preventing it from turning on or more likely it's a power issue or at least a hardware issue, preventing a constant current or something along those lines. Dips in power could explain apps crashing and the system inexplicably turning off. It would also explain why I can't turn it on easily.
It's really a shame because I liked this phone so much and if the new note was out, I might give it the benefit of the doubt. But last night my Samsung tablet decided to install the updates I've been putting off because they're the same ones that broke this phone. So timing wise, I'm done with Samsung and will try a new brand. Only issue I see with pixel is it doesn't have a removable battery so hopefully I don't run into this issue on that device!
Thanks for all the help xda. If it was a solvable problem, I'm sure I could have fixed it with your help.
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I have had the exact same problem with my note 4. It wouldn't last 30 seconds at a lock screen from a cold battery before it would start boot looping, and the longer you left it in, the worse it got. Google told me I needed a new battery from several other forums and places I read. So I ordered one and replaced with a genuine Samsung one direct from them, and it didn't change anything.
I figured out it was heat related and I had it sit on an ice pack and it would run and work fine as long as the ice pack held out, about 2 hours. I've down graded, flashed, rooted the boot loader, installed a recovery console, flashed to different versions, all have the same problem. So I've kind of reserved myself to the fact it must be a hardware problem. Perhaps it was caused by the update, but nothing software change wise seems to be able to fix it. Did wake-loc fix as well. I've spent the last week with mine trying everything in the world and every evening having it on the ice pack hooked up trying whatever I could think of or read up on doing, and basically as soon as it warms up, it starts doing it again.
Heres a pic; http://imgur.com/a/5L64V
In my experience, it gets worse and worse. The day I bought my v20, I tried to trade it into Verizon but couldn't even turn it on in front of the rep. I thought I had timed the new phone perfectly but still wanted the $80! Fortunately I got it working after the weekend and just stuck everything in the freezer before I walked to Verizon.
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In my experience, it gets worse and worse. The day I bought my v20, I tried to trade it into Verizon but couldn't even turn it on in front of the rep. I thought I had timed the new phone perfectly but still wanted the $80! Fortunately I got it working after the weekend and just stuck everything in the freezer before I walked to Verizon.
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Just out of curiosity, what phone did you wind up going to?
The LG v20 and so far so good!
so I woke up this morning and the phone was off, i tried to turn it on with no luck. Plug in the original OEM charger and been getting stuck in bootloop.
tried to follow recovery mode but everytime i get to the "fastboot" screen and try to toogle the menu, the phone reset back to the "Google" logo....so now i can't even enter recovery mode to side load. have anyone run into this issue before? and what is the solution?
thanks
So after i let the phone run out of the battery, i noticed the no battery icon keep flashing. plus when i was only holding down the Volume down button, i can go to fastboot mood. it seems like the power button is stuck causing the phone to reset all the time. I think this is a hardware issue.
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So after i let the phone run out of the battery, i noticed the no battery icon keep flashing. plus when i was only holding down the Volume down button, i can go to fastboot mood. it seems like the power button is stuck causing the phone to reset all the time. I think this is a hardware issue.
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Are you BL locked or unlocked? If unlocked, you can at least try installing the factory image (with or without the -w) and see what it does.
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Are you BL locked or unlocked? If unlocked, you can at least try installing the factory image (with or without the -w) and see what it does.
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unfortunately, BL is locked and I can't do anything that I know of on my end. Time to go back to my back up oneplus 3T
lpiratel said:
unfortunately, BL is locked and I can't do anything that I know of on my end. Time to go back to my back up oneplus 3T
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Can you see the device in Fastboot with fastboot devices from a command prompt? Are you locked and not unlockable (Verizon) or just not unlocked? If just not unlocked you could try unlocking the BL (assuming you had at least toggled OEM Unlocking in developer settings)? I don't know if the command works on a locked BL (I suspect it doesn't, but it is worth a try), but fastboot reboot fastboot would get you to fastbootd where you can do ADB sideload.
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Can you see the device in Fastboot with fastboot devices from a command prompt? Are you locked and not unlockable (Verizon) or just not unlocked? If just not unlocked you could try unlocking the BL (assuming you had at least toggled OEM Unlocking in developer settings)? I don't know if the command works on a locked BL (I suspect it doesn't, but it is worth a try), but fastboot reboot fastboot would get you to fastbootd where you can do ADB sideload.
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my phone is not Version version, bought it directly from google. oem is unlocked for sure. I tried the command, but it keep restarting after 3 seconds in fastboot mode. I think the power button board is messed up.
lpiratel said:
my phone is not Version version, bought it directly from google. oem is unlocked for sure. I tried the command, but it keep restarting after 3 seconds in fastboot mode. I think the power button board is messed up.
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Suggestion: Call Google support
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my phone is not Version version, bought it directly from google. oem is unlocked for sure. I tried the command, but it keep restarting after 3 seconds in fastboot mode. I think the power button board is messed up.
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Homeboy76 said:
Suggestion: Call Google support
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Same suggestion as Homeboy at this point. Sorry.
lpiratel said:
so I woke up this morning and the phone was off, i tried to turn it on with no luck. Plug in the original OEM charger and been getting stuck in bootloop.
tried to follow recovery mode but everytime i get to the "fastboot" screen and try to toogle the menu, the phone reset back to the "Google" logo....so now i can't even enter recovery mode to side load. have anyone run into this issue before? and what is the solution?
thanks
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They will rma it, I had a similar issue on my pixel 2 (slot unbootable load error) and they shipped me once right away.
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So after i let the phone run out of the battery, i noticed the no battery icon keep flashing. plus when i was only holding down the Volume down button, i can go to fastboot mood. it seems like the power button is stuck causing the phone to reset all the time. I think this is a hardware issue.
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This just happened to me yesterday. Plugged my Pixel 3 XL in to the wall charger and it immediately went into a bootloop. Nothing would stop it as if it were a hardware issue. Tried to boot into recovery and fastboot but it would immediately bootloop again. Eventually after the battery died I was able to start it up and get it working again. My issue now is that I'm worried it will happen in the future. Didn't plan on upgrading but might have to move to the 4 XL as I use this phone for work.
holy crap - this happened to my wife's phone last week. We ended up getting a Pixel 3A XL for her.
She plugged in her 3XL at around 10% and it started boot looping. I couldnt' do anything with it. The only way I could try and keep it on is blasting it with a flipped can of CO2. I tried everything from factory reset to reflashing. Finally I gave up, and let it sit for a week. Started the phone, and it stayed on for 3 days and let the battery drain again to 10% - plugged the phone it and it started bootlooping again. I'm wondering if the battery just gave out. I wonder if we can see if there is some manufacturing correlation here, maybe all of our phones came from the same batch. I ended up buying in Nov 2018 for Black Friday sale.
Hey i'm currently going through this exact issue right now with my Pixel 3 XL. However my phone is out of warranty, it expired back in november, anyone has had experience with Google over the handling of this issue once the phone is out of warranty?
Would be great for your feedback! literally cried when this happened. I experienced the bootloop issue with the 6P. couldn't believe it was happening again with a phone of lifespan still less than 2 years.
Thanks!
hazeem96 said:
Hey i'm currently going through this exact issue right now with my Pixel 3 XL. However my phone is out of warranty, it expired back in november, anyone has had experience with Google over the handling of this issue once the phone is out of warranty?
Would be great for your feedback! literally cried when this happened. I experienced the bootloop issue with the 6P. couldn't believe it was happening again with a phone of lifespan still less than 2 years.
Thanks!
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I'd simply try to get support for this, it looks like the next big flaw and is likely class action lawsuit material, assuming hardware failure can be proven - to which I have not a single doubt in my mind, from reading alone the reports a few red flags can be seen instantly!
From not being able to reach fastboot or get past Google logo it appears to be the UFS storage chip that went bad! However it also seems that there's a relation to the charging mechanism, potentially involving the battery itself..
I think we'll start to see more an more reports about this flaw the next month, I hope not but after all Google released to the public on hardware level alone I wouldn't be surprised either - don't get me wrong, I love their devices and most Nexus and Pixel in daily use, I wouldn't even consider switching to another brand as love those devices to much but after all the years I also know that Google doesn't always execute their plans well on hardware level! Their 'lemon count' is statistically higher than elsewhere!
Good luck everyone, I'm definitely keeping an eye on this thread and issue!
Sent from my Google Pixel 3 XL using XDA Labs
This *just* happened to me, too! Happened at 330pm EDT right before I had a meeting, so I had to quickly swap the sim into another phone. I'm also out of warranty, and the fact that there are a number of us reporting this same issue in a quick span of time leads me to think this is something on Google's end
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I'd simply try to get support for this, it looks like the next big flaw and is likely class action lawsuit material, assuming hardware failure can be proven - to which I have not a single doubt in my mind, from reading alone the reports a few red flags can be seen instantly!
From not being able to reach fastboot or get past Google logo it appears to be the UFS storage chip that went bad! However it also seems that there's a relation to the charging mechanism, potentially involving the battery itself..
I think we'll start to see more an more reports about this flaw the next month, I hope not but after all Google released to the public on hardware level alone I wouldn't be surprised either - don't get me wrong, I love their devices and most Nexus and Pixel in daily use, I wouldn't even consider switching to another brand as love those devices to much but after all the years I also know that Google doesn't always execute their plans well on hardware level! Their 'lemon count' is statistically higher than elsewhere!
Good luck everyone, I'm definitely keeping an eye on this thread and issue!
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Since my original reply to this post, it has happened a couple of more times on my phone. Both times I've noticed the phone gets extremely hot but as soon as the battery dies and the temperature cools for a while, the phone will power back on. My uneducated guess is that something in the processor or battery connection is causing the phone to overheat. Excuse the layman's terms lol.
I too have been a big fan of the Nexus and PIxel lineups over the years but my reason for upgrading to the newer model was always because my old phone had some sort of hardware defect. Galaxy Nexus microphone died, Nexus 6P wouldn't power on, OG PIxel bootlooped. Pixel 2 XL had screen issues. Pixel 3 XL, here we are now lol. Each one lasted me at least over a year and the software is unmatched in my opinion. I'm proud of how far they've come with software, hardware and camera. I just wish they'd put a little "oomph" in their quality control department.
Google doesn't help with bootloop
hazeem96 said:
Hey i'm currently going through this exact issue right now with my Pixel 3 XL. However my phone is out of warranty, it expired back in november, anyone has had experience with Google over the handling of this issue once the phone is out of warranty?
Would be great for your feedback! literally cried when this happened. I experienced the bootloop issue with the 6P. couldn't believe it was happening again with a phone of lifespan still less than 2 years.
Thanks!
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I bought my Pixel 3 XL November 2018 from the Google Store.
The phone has been great, but the bootloop started happening with me 4-5 days ago. I had to buy a new phone (yes, I'm stuck in the modern world, unfortunately. i need a phone)
Recovery buttons get to a menu...and then back to the bootloop within 2 seconds, There was little time to press volume buttons etc and no response when I do so on this screen, other than the dead Android with it's hatch open.
But no matter what I do - it goes back to the bootloop within a few seconds.
I spoke w rep from Google for 40 minutes or so, I was polite. No help; he said he could not send me a new or renewed device. he suggested repair shops. Which....the shop told me they do not deal with bootloops, "probably a hardware issue", he said.
So...idea....use my credit card extended warranty! But....for this purchase, strangely...I used PayPal. ughhhh!
Disapointing. Not quite 2 years out of my Pixel, and I was hoping to capitalize on the resale / trade-in value. Not possible now, even a trade in requires a factory wipe.
I did think of using ADB / fastboot, but I do not have time to futz around right now.
You could try Google, but...if you are out of warranty, it is unlikely they will help. Did you buy it with a credit card w extended warranty?
good luck
this just happened to me google is saying that because the phone is out of warranty (by 8 months)
there is nothing they can do about it
at least I have the extended care