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Wondering if anyone here has any experience or recommendations. I moved to an area where T-Mobile service is terrible. I'm considering doing the straight talk bring your phone option and getting the AT&T compatible sim since my phone is unlocked. I'm not sure how this would work as far as what radio i'd need to flash and whether other people have had good experiences with straight talk especially using a "tmobile" device with the at&t sim/service.
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Wondering if anyone here has any experience or recommendations. I moved to an area where T-Mobile service is terrible. I'm considering doing the straight talk bring your phone option and getting the AT&T compatible sim since my phone is unlocked. I'm not sure how this would work as far as what radio i'd need to flash and whether other people have had good experiences with straight talk especially using a "tmobile" device with the at&t sim/service.
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So Im taking it Straight Talk runs off at&t towers? I always thought it was verizon guess ill be looking into it more because I have the same exact issue.. I need to find a way to sim unlock my phone for free and if not free then something pretty cheap because I refuse to pay 25$ to websites i question are reliable or not. If you find anything post it and ill do the same for you. Also Straight talk sells sim cards for their service for 10$ if you didnt already know.
With straight talk bring your phone it operates off tmobile and or at&t towers and is gsm. Verizon is cdma and from what i've seen on the straight talk website they don't do cdma. Regarding an unlock call the carrier and as long as you up to date on your bill and have had service for a few months they should provide you with an unlock code for free. There is also a thread around here for a free T989 unlock it's a pretty easy process from what I recall.
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So Im taking it Straight Talk runs off at&t towers? I always thought it was verizon guess ill be looking into it more because I have the same exact issue.. I need to find a way to sim unlock my phone for free and if not free then something pretty cheap because I refuse to pay 25$ to websites i question are reliable or not. If you find anything post it and ill do the same for you. Also Straight talk sells sim cards for their service for 10$ if you didnt already know.
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philo_ said:
With straight talk bring your phone it operates off tmobile and or at&t towers and is gsm. Verizon is cdma and from what i've seen on the straight talk website they don't do cdma. Regarding an unlock call the carrier and as long as you up to date on your bill and have had service for a few months they should provide you with an unlock code for free. There is also a thread around here for a free T989 unlock it's a pretty easy process from what I recall.
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Thanks for the info, The reason I didnt try getting A unlock code from tmobile before was because i herd you have to have your phone paid off before they would give you one because you could easily just switch service and keep the phone. Is that true? Because im still paying off my phone they add 20$ to my bill each month because the credit of the account holder wasnt good enough. Im gonna try looking for the thread you mentioned though.
EDIT: Also after i unlocked my phone could I use the same sim ive been using until i buy my new one? Or should i just wait to unlock when i get the new sim card? Sorry for all the questions i just wanna be cautious about this so i dont end up bricking my phone.
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Thanks for the info, The reason I didnt try getting A unlock code from tmobile before was because i herd you have to have your phone paid off before they would give you one because you could easily just switch service and keep the phone. Is that true? Because im still paying off my phone they add 20$ to my bill each month because the credit of the account holder wasnt good enough. Im gonna try looking for the thread you mentioned though.
EDIT: Also after i unlocked my phone could I use the same sim ive been using until i buy my new one? Or should i just wait to unlock when i get the new sim card? Sorry for all the questions i just wanna be cautious about this so i dont end up bricking my phone.
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If you unlock you can still use your sim. I am getting a rom put on T-989 right now with a Straight Talk Sim card. I unlocked mine back in April but then got the Note. I was on Tmobile but data was horrible outside the big cities. Have been on the AT&T ST sim since last April on my Note and love it. Just wanted to try the GS2 out again and looking for a decent rom. Having trouble with slim bean and CM.
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Also tell T-mobile you are going to travel overseas in Europe and you want to use some prepaid plans there. They should unlock then even if still under contract.
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If you unlock you can still use your sim. I am getting a rom put on T-989 right now with a Straight Talk Sim card. I unlocked mine back in April but then got the Note. I was on Tmobile but data was horrible outside the big cities. Have been on the AT&T ST sim since last April on my Note and love it. Just wanted to try the GS2 out again and looking for a decent rom. Having trouble with slim bean and CM.
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Also tell T-mobile you are going to travel overseas in Europe and you want to use some prepaid plans there. They should unlock then even if still under contract.
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Well if you want a good rom for the tmobile sii tryout jedimindtricks x3 (Not the version 6 because your calling wont work), its a good rom has the s3 gallery, supervideo, and media player. I would post a link but i need 10 post. thanks for the help though. ima see if i cant get it unlocked by myself first. last resort will be tmobile.
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So Im taking it Straight Talk runs off at&t towers? I always thought it was verizon guess ill be looking into it more because I have the same exact issue..
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Both, the phones they used to sell would have either a "C" or "G" at the end of the model# indicating whether it was CDMA or GSM compatible. Not sure about some of their newer phones though, since I think they also have HSPA phones now.
I would imagine the network they assign you to when you bring your own phone would depend on your current network since I think they still operate on both towers.
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Both, the phones they used to sell would have either a "C" or "G" at the end of the model# indicating whether it was CDMA or GSM compatible. Not sure about some of their newer phones though, since I think they also have HSPA phones now.
I would imagine the network they assign you to when you bring your own phone would depend on your current network since I think they still operate on both towers.
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When you buy the sim you can select either Tmobile or AT&T. AT&T has better coverage in my area. You can't buy the sim at Wally World. Only online.
http://www.straighttalksim.com/
I've been debating getting an S4 as the glass on my Nexus 4 cracked. Would there be any difference in buying an S4 now and waiting for the "nexus" version? I plan on putting a ROM on it either way.
If I got an S4 now is there any chance that I would be able to flash the Stock Google image to it when the "nexus" version comes out.
I never knew there was a nexus version of the GS4... although most likely the Google version of the GS4 firmware would work with the M919 (T-mobile version)...
At this point it is pure speculation as if we will be able to use the rom off the pure AOSP version GS4. I am sure even if Google don't support it some rom devs will work on it but I don't want your decision based off of guesses. (heck I may even try to work on it. j/k)
Just my 2 cents.
The Google Edition Galaxy S4 is supposed to come out next month. I have read that it will only be sold from the Google Play Store. It will be $20 more then if you bought the phone full price from T-mobile. It will have an unlocked bootloader and will not be carrier locked out of the box. I'm hoping that T-mobile will not have the IMEI numbers for these phones so that I can possibly use one on a data only account that I have. Currently T-mobile blocks the use of phones that they sell from being used on a data only account.
Im seriously on the fence right now. I have AT&T and i have the money to buy (A) GS4. Im going to buy the Google S4 but im willing to get the T-Mo S4 providing that i can install AOSP on it. Now i know that CM is available for the phone, but what is broken? I have been reading the forums and someone people are stating that there is some weird lags here and there, even on stock android (cm based). Too many options.
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I've been debating getting an S4 as the glass on my Nexus 4 cracked. Would there be any difference in buying an S4 now and waiting for the "nexus" version? I plan on putting a ROM on it either way.
If I got an S4 now is there any chance that I would be able to flash the Stock Google image to it when the "nexus" version comes out.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s4-nexus-t-mobile-212316/
Chances are good. :good:
if you can hold out till june 26th, then wait.
even if the tmo version gets the nexus rom through a port, it will take some time, and if you are on AT&T like I am you would not be getting it at the subsidized price. meaning you save 20 bucks for all the trouble of trying to get the nexus rom on it later who knows when.
Let me remind you about resale values, the nexus S4 will likely have a better resale value just on the fact alone that it is "factory unlocked" and LTE is guaranteed to work on either ATT or Tmo.
I have an ATT 32gb S4 right now, and I'm holding out till the Google edition is out, I was thinking of getting another ATT White S4 for my other line but I'm gonna hold out for the Google Edition :good:
The only thing that makes me consider the T-Mo version over the coming Stock Android version is Wi-Fi calling.
Can't you unlock the T Mobile version, once paid for fully. This would allow for compatibility on other GSM networks I believe, since the phone supports other frequencies as well (not just T Mobile). The Google edition S4 appears to be the same as the T Mobile version. Wouldn't a Rom port easily? Couldn't there even be an Odin file to flash the pure Google Rom?
Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Edition spotted on Bluetooth SIG
According to this link the model number for the GS4GE is GT-I9505G. So it isn't based on the SGH-M919 model that T-mobile uses. Which leaves the question of whether T-mobiles HSPA+42 network is supported or not.
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Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Edition spotted on Bluetooth SIG
According to this link the model number for the GS4GE is GT-I9505G. So it isn't based on the SGH-M919 model that T-mobile uses. Which leaves the question of whether T-mobiles HSPA+42 network is supported or not.
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I believe the M919 is one of the US variants of the GT I9505.
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/05/galaxy-s4-nexus-edition-reportedly-akin-to-t-mobile-variant/
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http://m.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s4-nexus-t-mobile-212316/
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I believe the M919 is one of the US variants of the GT I9505.
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/05/galaxy-s4-nexus-edition-reportedly-akin-to-t-mobile-variant/
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This makes a lot of sense. Especially since i can't seem to find "M919" on GSMArena.com anywhere.
http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/23/google-galaxy-s-4-2
This sort of adds to the confusion. But we know it will have LTE support for t mobile and ATT. The big question is if it will have HSPA+ support. Exactly what Paten said, now I see what he meant.
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However, many sources state that the I9505 model number is used to designate those devices with LTE support and the Snapdragon 600. So, the model number designation is confusing.
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However, many sources state that the I9505 model number is used to designate those devices with LTE support and the Snapdragon 600. So, the model number designation is confusing.
Nobody outside of Google or Samsung knows for sure, but from a hardware perspective, what additional capabilities could the GT-I9505G have over the M919? After all, doesn't the latter support all GSM/HSPA+ frequencies used by US and Euro carriers, plus LTE support for both TMo and AT&T LTE bands? Is there any compelling hardware-related reason to wait for the Google Edition S4 rather than pick up the M919 now?
I ended up just buying a Tmobile version and using the sim unlock method posted and im now using it on AT&T with LTE with CM 10.1. Eventually they will release the ROM making it a "Nexus" GS4. All in due time. If not i have 30 days to return it for a small "rent" fee of $50. No biggie.
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Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Edition spotted on Bluetooth SIG
According to this link the model number for the GS4GE is GT-I9505G. So it isn't based on the SGH-M919 model that T-mobile uses. Which leaves the question of whether T-mobiles HSPA+42 network is supported or not.
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This thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291523
Says that 9505 images work as long as you don't flash the modem. if this is true then the AOSP restores from Google should easily flash to the phone.
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The only thing that makes me consider the T-Mo version over the coming Stock Android version is Wi-Fi calling.
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This is the only reason I would keep a T-Mobile issued device - the Wi-fi calling has saved me while travelling abroad and in areas with poor reception.
knitler said:
This thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291523
Says that 9505 images work as long as you don't flash the modem. if this is true then the AOSP restores from Google should easily flash to the phone.
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Yes, it's true. I'm using Omegas v3.1 from 9505 right now.
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Im seriously on the fence right now. I have AT&T and i have the money to buy (A) GS4. Im going to buy the Google S4 but im willing to get the T-Mo S4 providing that i can install AOSP on it. Now i know that CM is available for the phone, but what is broken? I have been reading the forums and someone people are stating that there is some weird lags here and there, even on stock android (cm based). Too many options.
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There are a lot of things broke, missing and partially working on the SGS3 and SGS4 AOSP/AOKP/CM10.1 roms.
Here are just a few: many parts of the camera don't work or don't work properly, video playback audio is super low,
sometimes you can hardly hear it without headset, there is no wifi calling at all and none of the touchwiz specific
features are even incorporated into any of the CM10/10.1 roms except for the tw launcher.
I am sure I missed some other issues and problems, but you will only have grief if you use any Cyanogen based AOKP/AOSP or ported roms.
These CM10/AOSP/AOKP roms are really excellent for developers and for those people who want to get into development
or for people who really enjoy experimenting and learning more about their phones.
But for the average or not so average "joe" who wants an excellent full feature custom rom
with everything working properly these AOKP/AOSP/CM roms are just not the answer.
There many other custom roms which are based on Touchwiz Jellybean 4.2.2 stock roms which truly are excellent with all the features of
the S4 working properly without any issues and drawbacks which have always been a deal breaker for most people except developers.
both the versions of phones have their own specifications in terms of hardware and software configurations .. but nexus is some what better than S4 in my opinion.. what you say..
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-zenfone-2-usa-model-specifications-revealed-30381599/
for those still waiting, here is the news.
Its good that they are finally going to do a US release but I don't understand the mentality of only releasing the 2GB RAM version initially to "compete" with this years flagship phones like the M9 and S6. I bought mine from a website that sent it from China and 4GB RAM and it works great, I would love to see a US release mainly for the US based firmware so that it works better on the networks because its just not doing great on signal right now.
WTF. Why would you NOT sell the 4gb when that's like, the selling point of the phone for some people?
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WTF. Why would you NOT sell the 4gb when that's like, the selling point of the phone for some people?
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4gb is one huge selling point, but not have to purchase through a carrier is another. Will this also be available unlocked from Amazon or other?
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Its good that they are finally going to do a US release but I don't understand the mentality of only releasing the 2GB RAM version initially to "compete" with this years flagship phones like the M9 and S6. I bought mine from a website that sent it from China and 4GB RAM and it works great, I would love to see a US release mainly for the US based firmware so that it works better on the networks because its just not doing great on signal right now.
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great minds think alike, i'm just hoping if we could flash the us based firmware to get better signal
Man, I hope they won't put a carrier plan on it for
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um....sounds pretty bad....
is the taiwanese version works better than the china version in USA and Canada?
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great minds think alike, i'm just hoping if we could flash the us based firmware to get better signal
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I agree. Thats the only thing I want to see out of this release now is better signal. I am not getting LTE for T-Mobile just H+ but it doesn't bother me to much. Everything I am able to do with this phone I am more than happy with. And an update to a 64 bit OS would be nice. Everything ASUS is putting out for this phone is still on 32 bit OS. Which is nonsense when you're spouting everything about 64 bit chips.
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um....sounds pretty bad....
is the taiwanese version works better than the china version in USA and Canada?
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Neither one work good for US and CA. You can still call and text but browsing just isnt going to go over smoothly. When I first got it in, it had China's firmware which was difficult to navigate through and didn't have Gapps or any native google support. What I did, and pretty much everyone else that has bought it from overseas what flash the firmware to the European version which is WW. Switching the firmware in and of itself was a pain because the bootloader is still locked. China is CN, Taiwan is TW, and another they just released is JP which I assume is Japan. The European version still doesn't get LTE Signal but runs a lot more smoothly than CN, or TW and gets better signals. If you got it, just flash to a WW firmware and the phone will work awesome.
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I agree. Thats the only thing I want to see out of this release now is better signal. I am not getting LTE for T-Mobile just H+ but it doesn't bother me to much. Everything I am able to do with this phone I am more than happy with. And an update to a 64 bit OS would be nice. Everything ASUS is putting out for this phone is still on 32 bit OS. Which is nonsense when you're spouting everything about 64 bit chips.
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Neither one work good for US and CA. You can still call and text but browsing just isnt going to go over smoothly. When I first got it in, it had China's firmware which was difficult to navigate through and didn't have Gapps or any native google support. What I did, and pretty much everyone else that has bought it from overseas what flash the firmware to the European version which is WW. Switching the firmware in and of itself was a pain because the bootloader is still locked. China is CN, Taiwan is TW, and another they just released is JP which I assume is Japan. The European version still doesn't get LTE Signal but runs a lot more smoothly than CN, or TW and gets better signals. If you got it, just flash to a WW firmware and the phone will work awesome.
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What makes you say its 32bit? Surely as its 5.0+ its 64bit?
What will be the price?
What will be the price?
Hey guys they're talking about the zenfone 2 to be AT&T exclusive and stuff. Do you guys think it will be like any other flagship phone? What I mean by this is that do you still think it will be unlocked ? Because I will not be paying monthly for a phone.
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What makes you say its 32bit? Surely as its 5.0+ its 64bit?
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On the phone, if you install antutu benchmark and check device info on it, it will give you details about the OS. Under it is says Android 5.0 (32bit). They're expecting with the 5.1 update that it will be a 64 kernel. I could be wrong, but this is just what I have seen and what has been mentioned quite a bit in zenfone forums by asus with people complaining.
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On the phone, if you install antutu benchmark and check device info on it, it will give you details about the OS. Under it is says Android 5.0 (32bit). They're expecting with the 5.1 update that it will be a 64 kernel. I could be wrong, but this is just what I have seen and what has been mentioned quite a bit in zenfone forums by asus with people complaining.
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Cool, I see, that should be a great update then and make things more efficient.
I can't imagine they will make it an AT&T exclusive. Did you read that somewhere, and if so, can you share the link? If that's the case, then the darn thing will be locked to AT&T. And AT&T will have their nonsense stuff on it!
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Hey guys they're talking about the zenfone 2 to be AT&T exclusive and stuff. Do you guys think it will be like any other flagship phone? What I mean by this is that do you still think it will be unlocked ? Because I will not be paying monthly for a phone.
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`The link is in the first post of the thread but I posted it for you again. First paragraph of the article. - "On the 18th of May in Manhattan, New York, ASUS will be visiting with a USA-based taste of their smartphone ZenFone 2. This device will subsequently be available at AT&T - like previous releases of ASUS phones in the United States."
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-zenfon...aled-30381599/
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That Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 is looking better now. I hope they sell it unlocked but if it only works on AT&T networks that's okay. I'm leaving AT&T and going to H2O Wireless this month so I'm not buying a locked phone. And yes I know H2O and other virtual carriers will take locked AT&T phones. The good thing about the Alcatel Idol 3 is that it will work on AT&T and T-Mobile U.S. networks.
AT&T is going to render the phone less useful. Also, I doubt the AT&T version will be dual sim. I hope it's also available unlocked via 3rd party retailers, such as Amazon.
Just ordered the ZE550ML 2 GB model. I'll let you guys know about the camera and performance next week, so stay tune!
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2GB model, no thanks, I will stick with the 4/64 that I picked up in Taiwan
I think that it's smart that people ordered their's esrly, because maybe they might put the phablet on a AT&T. Just a prediction
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so order early is better?
Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
buffalosolja42 said:
Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
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They are the same phones and can run the same firmware.
I would go with whatever the best deal you can get.
I thought things like video calling and wifi phone calls don't work. Hmm well that's good news then.
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I thought things like video calling and wifi phone calls don't work. Hmm well that's good news then.
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Who is your carrier?
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buffalosolja42 said:
Can someone help in this arena would be good to know the difference. Sammy is giving $600 trade-in on my Note 9 if I go to unlocked or I can get the same with Bestbuy carrier locked to ATT. Why I would like to go Samsung route is that it would give me time to move all my 2FA.
So if anyone has a list of carrier difference and issues pleas let me know
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You can actually just go research any of this in the Galaxy S8, Note 8, Galaxy S9, Note 9, or Galaxy S10 forums. They all work the same way.
Same hardware across each of the variants, but the software and the carrier will determine which features work. If you're on ATT and you want WiFi calling and VoLTE, you'll need to buy an ATT device. They check your IMEI and if it isn't on their whitelist, those features won't work, even if you flash the ATT firmware.
All the other carriers you can just flash their carrier firmware.
T-Mobile is the easiest. The only thing that won't work on TMO with unlocked firmware is video calling and RCS texting. WiFi calling and VoLTE work right out of the box.
That is what i figured searched the forums a bit but needed something concise appreciate the info!!
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Who is your carrier?
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You can actually just go research any of this in the Galaxy S8, Note 8, Galaxy S9, Note 9, or Galaxy S10 forums. They all work the same way.
Same hardware across each of the variants, but the software and the carrier will determine which features work. If you're on ATT and you want WiFi calling and VoLTE, you'll need to buy an ATT device. They check your IMEI and if it isn't on their whitelist, those features won't work, even if you flash the ATT firmware.
All the other carriers you can just flash their carrier firmware.
T-Mobile is the easiest. The only thing that won't work on TMO with unlocked firmware is video calling and RCS texting. WiFi calling and VoLTE work right out of the box.
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I am using ATT prepaid and I bought the S10 plus last year. I flashed it with the ATT firmware and I got wifi calling working. I plan to do the same for my Note 10 plus.
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I am using ATT prepaid and I bought the S10 plus last year. I flashed it with the ATT firmware and I got wifi calling working. I plan to do the same for my Note 10 plus.
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Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
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I have been using it just fine. I will do it on my Note 10 plus and report back my result.
Well there you go, OP. I guess flashing ATT firmware to your unlocked device still works to activate carrier features. Everything else I said is still accurate.
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Cool! Someone just said that doesn't work on ATT anymore, because they now strictly check your IMEI. I use TMO so I didn't do anymore research, just figured ATT changed their system.
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So right now ATT wifi calling doesn't work with Note 10 Plus but it does work for S10 Plus (and previous models). I am pretty sure this is because the Note 10 is still very new and their system needs some update. I will wait a couple weeks and see what happens.
I called ATT. They told me Note 10 is not on their list yet.
Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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buffalosolja42 said:
Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
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thats the first time I heard of anyone actually using it!
ekerbuddyeker said:
thats the first time I heard of anyone actually using it!
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Work in IT daily and easier for wife as it pops up in call.
I would use it, but I use a Google Voice number as my primary number. We used to do Hangouts video calls all the time, but not so much anymore. I guess the romance is dead.
If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
Corruption Inc said:
If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
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I have a pre-order deal from Samsung that is between 6-700 can't remember at the moment.
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I always use unlocked devices whether it be Samsung unlocked or Google pixels unlocked but all work like a charm on verizon and get basically free unchecked hotspot
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So right now ATT wifi calling doesn't work with Note 10 Plus but it does work for S10 Plus (and previous models). I am pretty sure this is because the Note 10 is still very new and their system needs some update. I will wait a couple weeks and see what happens.
I called ATT. They told me Note 10 is not on their list yet.
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buffalosolja42 said:
Wow thanks so everything works when flashing the firmware that's great. My wife and I use thr video calling this is great news.
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
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So interestingly, there's another thread and people who are flashing ATT firmware to the unlocked version can no longer get WFC to work. They said it works for a few minutes if they give ATT an old IMEI number, but the system will automatically update to the new IMEI and WFC will no longer work. Read page four of the thread to see what I'm talking about.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/unlocked-samsung-att-tmo-t3956698
Corruption Inc said:
If you flash carrier firmware to the unlocked phone, don't you basically just end up with a carrier phone? If the answer is yes, then what's the point of buying the unlocked phone?
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There's a few reasons:
1. This year the Note 9 is worth $600 towards an unlocked model, but only $300 towards carrier models.
2. The U1 models generally maintain their value a little better than the carrier branded models. Even though it's the same exact device, that little "1" makes a difference for some reason.
3. It's factory unlocked. T-Mo, Sprint, ATT, and now Verizon all come carrier locked. Verizon stays locked for 60 days then automatically unlocks. T-Mo you have to pay it off, or pay cash up front, then wait 40 days with it active on your account before it can be unlocked. ATT again has to be paid off or paid in full up front and then you have to request an unkock and wait for the code. I believe Sprint automatically unlocks it once it's paid off.
4. I've heard conflicting stories, but at least in the past, Sprint was weird about their BYOD program. You could only bring devices with whitelisted IMEIs. That was Sprint devices and factory unlocked devices. If you just got your ATT Galaxy S8+ unlocked and brought it to Sprint, it wouldn't activate, even though it was the same exact device hardwarewise. The IMEI wasn't in their database. So the Unlocked version is more flexible.
5. That ugly ATT box. For some reason ATT will often take the phone out of the nice Samsung box and throw it in a cheap ATT box. See the USA Pre-order thread on here. There's already people complaining about that box. And I'm a packaging guy.
So you might as well get the device that's cheaper up front and holds it's value the best and is the most flexible carrier wise. If you want carrier features and firmware, you can still have them, and no worries ever about a SIM lock. Well except with ATT apparently. If you need ATT WiFi calling and VoLTE, you may be stuck getting the ATT model, from what I'm reading.
Now that said, if you don't have a trade in device, and your carrier is offering a better deal on their model...then by all means get that one.
Resurrecting and old thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm on T-Mobile and looking at either an unlocked Note 10+ which is $200 off right now from Samsung and Amazon or the Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile. I know this is a bit of an apples to oranges thing, but what I'm wondering about is data roaming. I've heard, but have not been able to confirm is that an unlocked model will not data roam on partner networks, while a T-Mobile version will data roam. I do know that my current phone, an unlocked Essential PH-1 does not data roam, but is this true for all factory unlocked vs. carrier phones? Or at least T-Mobile phones?
akrein62 said:
Resurrecting and old thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm on T-Mobile and looking at either an unlocked Note 10+ which is $200 off right now from Samsung and Amazon or the Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile. I know this is a bit of an apples to oranges thing, but what I'm wondering about is data roaming. I've heard, but have not been able to confirm is that an unlocked model will not data roam on partner networks, while a T-Mobile version will data roam. I do know that my current phone, an unlocked Essential PH-1 does not data roam, but is this true for all factory unlocked vs. carrier phones? Or at least T-Mobile phones?
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T-Mobile customer here. I had an unlocked S7 Edge that would roam just fine on partner networks, in the US and internationally. Haven't had the opportunity to test roaming yet with my brand new unlocked Note 10+ but I suspect my results would be the same as with my S7 Edge.
Hi i got a N976U phone that i would like to use with Xfinity mobile, its failing with IMEI check. i spoke with Xfinity csr to add the imei to my existing line , but he would not add since imei check is failing.
I bought a unlock code from ebay and thought will use it.
When i insert the xfinity SIM it did not prompt for unlock code, i believe this phone is unlocked. It does not have any carrier apps.
I tried with a unused Verizon sim and it did not prompt for unlock code.
Can i flash to any firmware that will make it work with xfinity. Any help is appreciated.
Service Provider SW Ver - XAA/XAA/ATT
security patch level is feb 20.
Baseband version - N976USQSTATA4
TIA !!
Flashing firmware for another carrier won't fix your problem. Xfinity Mobile is not accepting any 5G phones from other carriers on their network now. Not even if they're carrier unlocked, and not even factory unlocked 5G devices. Best thing is to contact the seller (and swappa) explain the situation and return the device for a refund.
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Flashing firmware for another carrier won't fix your problem. Xfinity Mobile is not accepting any 5G phones from other carriers on their network now. Not even if they're carrier unlocked, and not even factory unlocked 5G devices. Best thing is to contact the seller (and swappa) explain the situation and return the device for a refund.
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I wonder if thats the same issue with mine (its 5g also):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/help/unlocked-verizon-note-10-plus-issues-t4175921
So you can't just insert your sim in it and go? I used to have xfinity and used random Verizon based byod all the time
TheMadScientist said:
So you can't just insert your sim in it and go? I used to have xfinity and used random Verizon based byod all the time
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Actually, I think you can if you have a current XM account and device (but I'm not positive because I've not tried it with a 5G device). But the OP was trying to BYOD for a new line, and I believe that's his problem.
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sammyDC said:
I wonder if thats the same issue with mine (its 5g also):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/help/unlocked-verizon-note-10-plus-issues-t4175921
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I'm not sure with Verizon. Could be, but just not sure.
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Actually, I think you can if you have a current XM account and device (but I'm not positive because I've not tried it with a 5G device). But the OP was trying to BYOD for a new line, and I believe that's his problem.
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I'm not sure with Verizon. Could be, but just not sure.
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Yea i had an account already Nd sent my s8 in for warranty and used several other devices most def would've failed imei checks on them
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Actually, I think you can if you have a current XM account and device (but I'm not positive because I've not tried it with a 5G device). But the OP was trying to BYOD for a new line, and I believe that's his problem.
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I'm not sure with Verizon. Could be, but just not sure.
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Currently I have a note 8(unlocked) with the Xfinity account and wanted to replace it with Note 10 + 5G. I'm not adding a new line.
I put the Note 8 xfinity SIM in Note 10 + and got a message "Not registered with Network" and was not able to make calls.
After I swapped the SIM and put it back into Note 8 , LTE stopped working and had to reset network settings (That's a different story).
But still not able to use Note 10 + 5g with Xfinity. I saw in forums here many people just swap SIM in Note 10 + and it started to work for them, but im not able to do this
When I spoke with CSR she mentioned that I need to add a new line with Note 10 + and activate it and then transfer Note 10 + to my current number and then delete the new account.
I got a SIM card from Xfinity store and called , but CSR checked imei and he did not want to add the imei and create a new line.
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I have a note 8 unlocked with the Xfinity and wanted to replace it with Note 10 + 5G. Im not adding a new line.
I put the Note 8 xfinity SIM in Note 10 + and got a message "Not registered with Network" and was not able to make calls.
After i swapped the SIM and put it back into Note 8 , LTE stopped working and had to reset network settings (Thats a different story).
But still not able to use Note 10 + 5g with Xfinity. I saw in forums here many people just swap SIM in Note 10 + and it started to work for them, but im not able to do this
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That's good information about your SIM swapping experience with a 5G device. It confirms that even if we have an XM account and current device we can't BYOD another 5G device to XM for now. You shouldn't have any trouble returning it under the circumstances, with Swappa's help.
It might be the sim version, I have had some issues in the past fue to this, notably when swapping the sim from an olf device to the new and when the transition between 2g- 3g, 3g-4g, and the last one, 4g to lte+ when my carrier implemented VOLTE calls, , I received a notification to get the newest sim version to be able to use volte, at no cost for me, in your case, it may be something of the sort, just my 2 cents
I checked the imei in Verizon imei checker and i get not supported, are there GSM and CDMA versions of Note 10 plus ? I thought they support both versions
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I checked the imei in Verizon imei checker and i get not supported, are there GSM and CDMA versions of Note 10 plus ? I thought they support both versions
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US snapdragon versions support both GSM and CDMA networks. This is all about XM and not allowing BYOD 5G on their network, currently.
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Actually, I think you can if you have a current XM account and device (but I'm not positive because I've not tried it with a 5G device). But the OP was trying to BYOD for a new line, and I believe that's his problem.
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I'm not sure with Verizon. Could be, but just not sure.
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I just got a verizon sim today. Will place in phone and then harass tier 2 support to help.
Hope it works!!!!!!!
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@TheMadScientist,
FWIW, I just took delivery of a Samsung factory unlocked (U1 device) Note 20 Ultra 5G, and had no problems with my SIM swap (from my unlocked Note 10+). A lot of others (on the Xfinity Mobile forum) have reported difficulty with this. No problems for me. But I don't have the 5G SIM card and don't pay the extra $3/month/gig for 5G access (since it's non-existent here).
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@TheMadScientist,
FWIW, I just took delivery of a Samsung factory unlocked (U1 device) Note 20 Ultra 5G, and had no problems with my SIM swap (from my unlocked Note 10+). A lot of others (on the Xfinity Mobile forum) have reported difficulty with this. No problems for me. But I don't have the 5G SIM card and don't pay the extra $3/month/gig for 5G access (since it's non-existent here).
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Mine was back on s8. But I didn't. I used several trac phone. Straight talk. Verizon devices all on Verizon towers that where already in their systems. I've never tried an outright byod say originally att