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One of the reasons you may be rooting your Nitro might be to remove bloatware. At least, that was the main reason for me.
Anyway, after you root and go about customizing and deleting apps, you will likely find yourself rebooting and being greeted by an LG logo and the words "Security Error". Then you go through the terrible motions of unbricking your phone and trying again only to brick it once more.
Well, after bricking my phone a good 30 times, I have found a solution. Here it is:
DO NOT UNINSTALL ALL AT&T SYSTEM APPS
There you have it. It seems that AT&T has set up their ROMs to verify that all system apps are intact at boot. If they are not, they assume that the ROM has been tampered with. Of course, this does not mean that you can't freeze these apps. I used Titanium Backup to freeze these apps.
When I finished customizing my Nitro, I booted into ClockWorkMod Recovery and made a backup. Each time I bricked my phone while testing this, I just restored that backup. I've also kept the backup on my SD card just in case.
Here is a list of the apps that I have found will brick your Nitro if removed:
AT&T Address Book (Safe to remove with v20c update)
AT&T Navigator (Safe to remove with v20c update)
Google Play Books* (Safe to remove with v20c update)
Google Play Movies*
Google Play Music (Safe to remove with v20c update)
Google Play Store/Market
*I have found that these ones will defrost on reboot.
i can tell you for a fact that 90% of those are safe to remove and I have done so.
Yep, most of those are safe to remove. I have security error only then tried to install CWM from leaked firmware.
scott0 said:
i can tell you for a fact that 90% of those are safe to remove and I have done so.
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+1 !
removed all the at&t bloatware, yp and featured apps !
running the leak without any issues since 3 days !
scott0 said:
i can tell you for a fact that 90% of those are safe to remove and I have done so.
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I'm just going off the fact that every time I removed one of them, I got the security error.
I'd be happy to edit my list if you can provide a list of the ones you have removed.
mattman86 said:
I'm just going off the fact that every time I removed one of them, I got the security error.
I'd be happy to edit my list if you can provide a list of the ones you have removed.
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AT&T Address Book
AT&T Navigator
Birds & Cities
Bubbles
City ID
Featured Apps
Finance
Gmail
Google+*
News
Polaris Office
Social+
Today+ Widget
Visual Voicemail
Voicemail
Weather
Zynga Poker HD
I removed these without any problems. For me, it was one of Google play movies or books that gave the security error
skyxxx said:
AT&T Address Book
AT&T Navigator
Birds & Cities
Bubbles
City ID
Featured Apps
Finance
Gmail
Google+*
News
Polaris Office
Social+
Today+ Widget
Visual Voicemail
Voicemail
Weather
Zynga Poker HD
I removed these without any problems. For me, it was one of Google play movies or books that gave the security error
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AT&T Address book was the first one I tried. It bricked it a couple days ago and it just bricked it just now.
mattman86 said:
AT&T Address book was the first one I tried. It bricked it a couple days ago and it just bricked it just now.
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that and google movie are the bad ones. all the others uninstall without issue.
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that and google movie are the bad ones. all the others uninstall without issue.
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Ok, I'm making a ClockWorkMod backup right now and will give the others another try.
I think I need to point out that I'm pretty sure mattman86 is talking about experiencing the secure boot error while on the one-click installation ICS leak whereas people replying to him are using the CWM-flashable ICS leak. I could be wrong, though.
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I think I need to point out that I'm pretty sure mattman86 is talking about experiencing the secure boot error while on the one-click installation ICS leak whereas people replying to him are using the CWM-flashable ICS leak. I could be wrong, though.
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I have actually gotten the error with the CWM version also. Just not as often.
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Malnilion said:
I think I need to point out that I'm pretty sure mattman86 is talking about experiencing the secure boot error while on the one-click installation ICS leak whereas people replying to him are using the CWM-flashable ICS leak. I could be wrong, though.
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my comments are based on my experience with both.
Ok, I did some more testing and am going to edit my list now.
Thank you all for your input so far and input to come. This really is a great community to be a part of!
i'm quoting your updated list here. ;-)
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AT&T Address Book
AT&T Navigator
Google Play Books*
Google Play Movies*
Google Play Music
Google Play Store/Market
*I have found that these ones will defrost on reboot.
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this is a pretty safe list. you might try using root explorer to nav over to those apk's and change the perms & delete.
i don't mind the address book and the store is certainly required but those others, ugh.
Just tested. On 20c only one app that bricking device is Google Play Movies :laugh:. Books and Music are safe to remove. I did not try to remove Play Store.
Is Address Book safe to remove?
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ahdoublexl said:
Is Address Book safe to remove?
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yep i always remove at&t addressbook using tibu !
aaki_rocker said:
yep i always remove at&t addressbook using tibu !
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Weird... Every time I remove it, it bricks my phone. So, I just freeze it.
It appears that with the new v20c update, you can remove Address Book and Navigation.
Only app that crash system is Google Movies! I removed all staff from ATT and other and phone works well. But when I delete Moves it shows me Security Error.
Thought this may be useful for everyone to have as the device does sadly have a tendency to be a bit laggy.
Have followed a few guides and got some great info from XDA so trying to give a little back if I can
From what I have done I have found no ill effects that I have noticed so far, all fairly obvious choices so early on, but will get braver as I get more used to the handset and I'm sure others have been more adventurous than me and can help bulk the list up a bit and we can do away with a whole bunch of bloat to get a smoother ride from out G3. Some of these I froze as I prefer other 3rd party apps.
Frozen/Removed
Cell Broadcast
E-Mail
Documents
File Manager
Internet/Stock Browser
LG Health
LG Search Widget Provider
LG Setup Wizard
McAfee Security
Messaging (stock)
Music
Video
Video Trim
Weather
Weather Theme
Weather Platform
If you have any other suggestions please post and and I'll add updates to Post 1 for easy reference :highfive:
Hope this helps some fellow G3 users
557953 said:
Thought this may be useful for everyone to have as the device does sadly have a tendency to be a bit laggy.
Have followed a few guides and got some great info from XDA so trying to give a little back if I can
From what I have done I have found no ill effects that I have noticed so far, all fairly obvious choices so early on, but will get braver as I get more used to the handset and I'm sure others have been more adventurous than me and can help bulk the list up a bit and we can do away with a whole bunch of bloat to get a smoother ride from out G3. Some of these I froze as I prefer other 3rd party apps.
If you have any other suggestions please post and and I'll add updates to Post 1 for easy reference :highfive:
Hope this helps some fellow G3 users
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I think you should do a different list for the Google apps, the main attention people will give this thread is to find out what LG apps they can freeze and remove, most people will not be interesting in removing the Google apps from their devices.
Lennyuk said:
I think you should do a different list for the Google apps, the main attention people will give this thread is to find out what LG apps they can freeze and remove, most people will not be interesting in removing the Google apps from their devices.
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Understood, you are most likely correct. Google Apps removed from list
If possible, can you post the real app name (the apk name in /system/app or /system/app-priv) ?
Thanks
Get my G3 later today. Thanks for the list! I'm completely new to Android, so how do I remove bloat ware?
you need to keep file manager if you wish to write to the extsd card
I've not been able to disable the mcafee software
walkerx said:
you need to keep file manager if you wish to write to the extsd card
I've not been able to disable the mcafee software
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I didn't find the apk by myself, but root uninstaller found somehow
Is freezing them through TB essentially a better version of hibernating them through Greenify?
alphamini said:
Is freezing them through TB essentially a better version of hibernating them through Greenify?
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They do different things. Freezing them is like uninstalling them - they are gone and won't work at all but can be retrieved by unfreezing. Greenifying them just hibernates them but they work as normal.
bartito said:
If possible, can you post the real app name (the apk name in /system/app or /system/app-priv) ?
Thanks
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Also in system/vendor/app. Found some stuff in there that tibu couldn't get rid of. Here's most of what I froze. If it's not in my list of frozen apps I deleted it lol
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Could we have a non-root list, and also a description of what gets disabled/broken for each one. E.g. what does Cell Broadcast do? (I've googled, I 'm now aware, not relevant currently in the UK).
ActionManager service? Board Content Provider?
I've found this list but most of the bloat on Verizon wasn't on mine, since I'm not in the US: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/list-bloatware-safe-to-disable-t2819370
I wonder if anyone has the time, patience, and good will to compile all of these threads into one master index?
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Could we have a non-root list, and also a description of what gets disabled/broken for each one. E.g. what does Cell Broadcast do? (I've googled, I 'm now aware, not relevant currently in the UK).
ActionManager service? Board Content Provider?
I've found this list but most of the bloat on Verizon wasn't on mine, since I'm not in the US: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/list-bloatware-safe-to-disable-t2819370
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I've noticed that the system doesn't allow you to disable everything if you're not rooted so maybe anything you are allowed to disable is safe to disable.
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drock212 said:
Also in system/vendor/app. Found some stuff in there that tibu couldn't get rid of. Here's most of what I froze. If it's not in my list of frozen apps I deleted it lol
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And how is everything working out after having disabled all those 3 weeks ago? Any anomalies or bad experiences? So far your screenshots give the best list of the removable apps (I'm completely new to LG so I don't know about their stock stuff), and I'd love to remove them but I'm afraid to experiment without a fully working recovery to restore nandroid.
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And how is everything working out after having disabled all those 3 weeks ago? Any anomalies or bad experiences? So far your screenshots give the best list of the removable apps (I'm completely new to LG so I don't know about their stock stuff), and I'd love to remove them but I'm afraid to experiment without a fully working recovery to restore nandroid.
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Everything is working great. Battery life is spectacular. There are 0 negative results to report.
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Everything is working great. Battery life is spectacular. There are 0 negative results to report.
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Awesome, thanks for the quick feedback! I just got a notification about a new downloadable software update (will not do it ofc), I suppose freezing the software update app will mean no more notifications and to setbacks either?
Horcza said:
Awesome, thanks for the quick feedback! I just got a notification about a new downloadable software update (will not do it ofc), I suppose freezing the software update app will mean no more notifications and to setbacks either?
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Correct. I have mine frozen to avoid receiving update notifications. Also this is good until you find out if the new update is rootable. If its not then its good to stick with the current software.
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Also in system/vendor/app. Found some stuff in there that tibu couldn't get rid of. Here's most of what I froze. If it's not in my list of frozen apps I deleted it lol
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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My list is almost this one of yours. Had to unfreeze some of those because it made the home screen very lagged.
Everything Google uninstalled or frozen for over 2 weeks. No problems or complaints.
thanks the development has really taken off for this great device
So I froze most of these. Will it free up memory or do I have to delete them? Kinda scared to delete them. I have nandroid backup, just hate to possibly have to restore when the phone is running good.
A little bonus update For those Verizon Galaxy S7 users who are unaware http://www.smartphonesupdates.com/latest-verizon-update-galaxy-s7-galaxy-s7-edge/ not mentioned in the change log.
please share your thoughts about this service.
Ah, so that's what that is. DISABLED
Thanks for letting us know, I just checked and disabled it.
Something like this should be illegal. Disabled.
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Thanks for this! I disabled it. I want my phone running as lean and mean as possible.
If you own the phone outright, paid in full, they should disclose what they are doing to it. I cleared and froze right after upgrading.
You all are welcome, i always try to share helpful info for my friends.
Thanks !
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This was also present on S6 and forward. Not new, but this should never have been added in the first place. I don't want random games on my phone.
I tried to disable but asked "Would you like to replace app with factory version?" Is another app that does the same thing going to replace it? I can't disable DT ignite if I don't click yes
Woodruffsung said:
I tried to disable but asked "Would you like to replace app with factory version?" Is another app that does the same thing going to replace it? I can't disable DT ignite if I don't click yes
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Its because DT ignite has updates installed. Click yes and it will put the "factory" non-updated version back on the phone. Then it will allow u to disable as normal.
Thanks so much for the find.
For those that may not have found it yet I have just started using Package Disabler Pro which let's you disable all of the verison and other bloatware without root...
zach.xtr said:
Thanks so much for the find.
For those that may not have found it yet I have just started using Package Disabler Pro which let's you disable all of the verison and other bloatware without root...
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Great app.
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A little bonus update For those Verizon Galaxy S7 users who are unaware http://www.smartphonesupdates.com/latest-verizon-update-galaxy-s7-galaxy-s7-edge/ not mentioned in the change log.
please share your thoughts about this service.
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DT ignite is a cancer waiting to spread. Forcing apps to install onto the device that has almost half its storage already taken by bloat. Haven't seen any apps besides the beam software install without my permission, had to install Nextradio manually ( which has annoying ads ). DT Ignite could one day install an app that can compromise your phones security due to programming flaws. All quickrooter exploits have been patched, however if it feels like a Trojan it is a Trojan
Just updated my VZ Galaxy S6 edge plus 64gb and this Cancerous AIDS is in that update as well. Before my eyes I had apps appearing like magic installing themselves one by one.
This is worse than most phones that have crap in their root preinstall folder that show up after every restart
Haven't had anything wacky installed, it's even installing an updated Instagram not from the Google play store
Hey Guys,
note 7 coming in tomorrow. will run a full update then I was thinking Ill lead my list from my note 5 which is the basic one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563
Bad idea? or ? I feel like it will work and get most of the junk out for the people who are wanting a basic list.
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Hey Guys,
note 7 coming in tomorrow. will run a full update then I was thinking Ill lead my list from my note 5 which is the basic one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563
Bad idea? or ? I feel like it will work and get most of the junk out for the people who are wanting a basic list.
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Be careful because disabling something without being sure what it is first might start a FC loop and the same can happen when updating the firmware (OTA or full firmware)!
I used to use Debloater when I had my Note 5 and several times I got weird FC loops.
I decided then to disable apps only from the App Manager when available.
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Be careful because disabling something without being sure what it is first might start a FC loop and the same can happen when updating the firmware (OTA or full firmware)!
I used to use Debloater when I had my Note 5 and several times I got weird FC loops.
I decided then to disable apps only from the App Manager when available.
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The list in that post was sort of a safe list. That you can just load and it will disable the standard stuff. You think this wont transfer well? I can go through the basic things but there are some thing I dont know much about but had no problems when I disabled. This includes all the garbage that runs in the background to send data
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The list in that post was sort of a safe list. That you can just load and it will disable the standard stuff. You think this wont transfer well? I can go through the basic things but there are some thing I dont know much about but had no problems when I disabled. This includes all the garbage that runs in the background to send data
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Good luck then as I had issues even with common packages.
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Cr4z33 said:
Good luck then as I had issues even with common packages.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S7 edge using stock v6.0.1 Marshmallow firmware
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Oh that is scary. I hope somebody posts a list then. Sometimes I wish I was more techky.
A couple apps that I use frequently, namely Walmart and Starbucks, will not allow install because "This app is not optimized for this device"... Is there a safe way around this?
I don't know about Starbucks but, Walmart app installed from backup from Galaxy S10 and is working just fine. Auto rotate and everything.
If it won't load it needs to be updated (the app).
Why would you want either one running as an app? Pure trashware. Don't know about Starwhatever but Walmart runs fine in the browser. Best kept there.
FB, WhatsApp, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instascam, etc are a stone's throw from outright malware. Even if I can I don't want to even use those sites in the browser. I'll never load them as an app.
Not trusted apps... actions have consequences, be careful what you allow to run on your device.
The restore from my original device and then an app store update did the trick. Thanks.
emtownsend said:
The restore from my original device and then an app store update did the trick. Thanks.
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Don't use Smartswitch going between different devices or OS's especially for apps.
blackhawk said:
Don't use Smartswitch going between different devices or OS's especially for apps.
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I was trying to avoid it...
I've read that this occurs only on the inner screen. I think to get around it you can close the play store then reopen it on the cover screen to install. Once installed you can use on either screen
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I was trying to avoid it...
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Kies was buggy too.
On the same device/firmware version it may work ok, I'll test it next reload but just for homepage settings, maybe apps.
Always use another backup method for critical data' SmartSwitch should never be the primary backup.
If it works, swell... but don't count on it
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Kies was buggy too.
On the same device/firmware version it may work ok, I'll test it next reload but just for homepage settings, maybe apps.
Always use another backup method for critical data' SmartSwitch should never be the primary backup.
If it works, swell... but don't count on it
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I miss the days of rooted Titanium Backup... LOL
Somebody on reddit confirmed to me just now it worked for them with a different app
mitchh said:
I've read that this occurs only on the inner screen. I think to get around it you can close the play store then reopen it on the cover screen to install. Once installed you can use on either screen
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mitchh said:
I've read that this occurs only on the inner screen. I think to get around it you can close the play store then reopen it on the cover screen to install. Once installed you can use on either screen
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Tried the outer screen for the walkie talkie app for my galaxy watch 4 and it says the same not optimized
Sonin66 said:
Tried the outer screen for the walkie talkie app for my galaxy watch 4 and it says the same not optimized
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hmm weird did you close the store completely then reopen it on the cover screen?
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hmm weird did you close the store completely then reopen it on the cover screen?
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Yep, just tried your suggestion and still a no go for me
Sonin66 said:
Yep, just tried your suggestion and still a no go for me
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yeah I just checked and it says that app isn't compatible with any of my devices if I go to it on my pc. rip
Just get the apk and install that.
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Just get the apk and install that.
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How do we get the apk file
blackhawk said:
If it won't load it needs to be updated (the app).
Why would you want either one running as an app? Pure trashware. Don't know about Starwhatever but Walmart runs fine in the browser. Best kept there.
FB, WhatsApp, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instascam, etc are a stone's throw from outright malware. Even if I can I don't want to even use those sites in the browser. I'll never load them as an app.
Not trusted apps... actions have consequences, be careful what you allow to run on your device.
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Not sure why you say this.
I've had these apps for years with no problems whatsoever.
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Not sure why you say this.
I've had these apps for years with no problems whatsoever.
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Simple, they are needless security risks and trashware with active internet access.
If you can't sort this out then enjoy the ride.
Sonin66 said:
How do we get the apk file
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Type the name of the app followed with apk download into Google and many sites who have the apk should pop up. Download it and simply install it.
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Type the name of the app followed with apk download into Google and many sites who have the apk should pop up. Download it and simply install it.
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So while I was able to find and download the apk file, it still won't install.