Ppl,
Got the 6/128gb model, within a week I'll be able to unlock BL, I'd like to have everything in place. So for the mm3 owners who are ahead of me and have been successfully flashing away.
Can I ask from this version, what global rom or the xiaomi.eu rom should I be going for?
Is 9.6.12 too high, am I too wait? Is there a stable global yet?
(yes I've searched and read lots)
Just don't need a brick method. Nothing seems to be concrete
9.6.12.CN is ARB, Anti Rollback. So if I have understood this correctly, you are stuck with ARB versions from now on.
I am in the same state as you, and is waiting for my B.L. unlock.
What we can flash is any ARB version (afaik).
9.6.12 CN and after.
9.6.8 Global and after (need Unlocked BL to switch from CN) 9.6.8 Global is not released yet.
MIUI 10 versions with ARB
Or Xiaomi.eu on top of Chinese ROM.
la7dfa said:
9.6.12.CN is ARB, Anti Rollback. So if I have understood this correctly, you are stuck with ARB versions from now on.
I am in the same state as you, and is waiting for my B.L. unlock.
What we can flash is any ARB version (afaik).
9.6.12 CN and after.
9.6.8 Global and after (need Unlocked BL to switch from CN) 9.6.8 Global is not released yet.
MIUI 10 versions with ARB
Or Xiaomi.eu on top of Chinese ROM.
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Glad I'm not alone lol, I doubt it's just us... After coming from a Op5t rooted and custom rom, I just want this phone all singing and dancing with the latest mods. The pixel 3 rom I had on my op was the best ever. Just here loving the battery and screen size of this monster.
And yes I understand the ARB, looks like we will just have to be patient.
No, ur not alone hehehe, but im not a patient guy, so while i wait i got the Honor note 10 and Honor 8X max, and they just rules, especially note 10 indeed, they was just plugn play even its the Chinese versions, they are totally like global versions.
But still dream of the day where i hopefully can use my mm3 where it rocks 100% and are stable...
I really dont want to spend half of my life to get a totally new phone to work prober.
I'm glad to hear that Xiaomi are opening up their 1st UK store in London and it's 5mins from where I work, I'll be straight in there to buy a phone on opening day hopefully. Fingers crossed they'll have stock.
Anyone know anything about when the global release could be, seems like latest is could be would be 8th december (new york launch event), been waiting impatiently for a long time for this phone to come out, and i have 2 options.... wait for the global release with the official global ROM, or import from china and flash the global ROM when its released (and lose any functionality that flashing a ROM or xiaomi devices causes).
There isn't any official word on when the global release will be. Only that there will be one. I'm new to Xiaomi so I'm not sure how long it usually takes for them to release a global version after the Chinese one
You guys think it's best to wait for the new Mi Mix 3 ? Maybe the battery will be bigger and have an in-display fingerprint ? As it is right now, I personally like the Honor Magic 2 better but it looks like you can't unlock the bootloader on the Honor (or you have to pay ).
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&...ARAB&usg=AOvVaw1_SQ--67SuUrW9DiBr-gFw&cf=1
Hmm might be soon.
Hello everyone,
I have got a mountain of questions that arised from reading the forum and a lot of different topics.
I'll have numbers on them, so if you can/want to only answer a few of them you can refer to the number.
1. I've read about this ARB quite a lot, what's the deal with that if I want to go to a custom rom?
2. I understood that it matters where to buy the device in terms of an unlocked bootloader (TradingShenzen seems like a good place to start). But if I can't get my hands on a phone with unlocked bootloader, can I unlock it myself?
3. I'd like to go with the xiaomi.eu rom, any advice on how to get there? What I mean is, should I choose a CN model or is a Global model better, does it matter? What steps to take regarding TWRP and avoiding ARB, etc.
4. What does GSI stand for? I haven't found any thread explaining what that means, and I'm quite new to xiaomi devices (would be my first one).
5. I've also seen that there are quite a few different variants of this device, do the roms for it just work on all of them or do I need to check if the model is supported? (That seems to be a bit different to other phone vendors)
That's it for now, please don't kill me if some of the things have been answered before, I haven't found an answer to the questions so far (the infos that I got so far were insufficient)
Cheers,
Zacki
1 Google introduced ARB, a safeguard to not create an older version of the system from the currently released. If you install the official older version of the system for a new one, you will wall your phone.
Does not apply to Custom ROM
2 You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
3 unlock the bootloader, install recovery, install xiaomi.eu. Global rom is more stable, but xiaomi.eu has more personalization options. Recently, xiaomi.eu does not cause problems on Mi Max3, but it causes problems on other models.
4 GSI https://source.android.com/setup/build/gsi
5 Mi Max3 Global 4gb RAM 64gb internal memory,
Mi Max China 6gb RAM 128gb internal memory
You can install the Global ROM on the china version if you have unlocked the boootloader, and remember about the ARB. Otherwise, you will wall your phone
The Global version is popular.
Bartos81 said:
1 Google introduced ARB, a safeguard to not create an older version of the system from the currently released. If you install the official older version of the system for a new one, you will wall your phone.
Does not apply to Custom ROM
2 You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
3 unlock the bootloader, install recovery, install xiaomi.eu. Global rom is more stable, but xiaomi.eu has more personalization options. Recently, xiaomi.eu does not cause problems on Mi Max3, but it causes problems on other models.
4 GSI https://source.android.com/setup/build/gsi
5 Mi Max3 Global 4gb RAM 64gb internal memory,
Mi Max China 6gb RAM 128gb internal memory
You can install the Global ROM on the china version if you have unlocked the boootloader, and remember about the ARB. Otherwise, you will wall your phone
The Global version is popular.
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Thanks for your reply.
@1. Interesting to see what Google is up to with things like this...why would they want this?
@2. Thanks, but whoa that's quite some time...and I guess I can only trigger the 300h AFTER I bought the phone, right? (Why so many hours actually...?)
@3. I've read about the changes they made to the rom and I like that. But what do you mean with being "less stable" than the global rom? In what way? I'd like to use that as my daily driver if I get it (not the weekly builds of course).
@4. Will have a look, thanks :good:
@5. I was actually looking at the 6GB/128GB version of the phone, if I can convince my wife to allow me to spend ~260€ on a phone (I'm currently a student ).
In this case, I'd already have an unlocked bootloader and if I want to install the rom from xiaomi.eu, there should be no problem, right? Also regarding ARB, this should be fine, right?
And in what ways are the CN and the Global versions different other than the rom? Are there differences for the supported bands or radios? I live in Austria, can I use the CN model here without any downside?
Edit: I'm having a look at this particular model, it would be available with CN firmware or with Global firmware. Would that still account as CN model in this case?
TradingShenzhen - Mi Max 3 - 6gb-ram-128gb-rom-snapdragon-636
Cheers
Google thinks people should use the latest system because it provides better security.
Xiaomi introduced a long wait time to unlock the bootloader, because dishonest sellers offered CN versions outside of China and India by installing the Global system on it. The CN version is only for China and India.
Xiaomi.eu provides its system every week. Contains various patches and additions. Sometimes something does not work, payments, BT paired in the car, notifications etc. In my phone, the last two versions do not work Gmail notifications. In today's version, people write that OK Google is not working.
If you unlock the bootloader, you can install xiaomi.eu. The ARB will be kept at the level of the official system you had.
The CN system contains only Chinese and English. It does not offer Google Play, it also contains full Chinese software.
Version 6/128 is only a CN model. If the seller offers with the Global system, it means that he has unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global system. You naturally lose the Xiaomi warranty.
Bartos81 said:
Google thinks people should use the latest system because it provides better security.
Xiaomi introduced a long wait time to unlock the bootloader, because dishonest sellers offered CN versions outside of China and India by installing the Global system on it. The CN version is only for China and India.
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Ok got that, seems like people are trying everything to make a few bucks extra... Then it would have to be so (waiting).
Bartos81 said:
Xiaomi.eu provides its system every week. Contains various patches and additions. Sometimes something does not work, payments, BT paired in the car, notifications etc. In my phone, the last two versions do not work Gmail notifications. In today's version, people write that OK Google is not working.
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Ok that's not such a big issue, as I said. I'd stay on the "stable" builds, not the weekly ones.
Bartos81 said:
If you unlock the bootloader, you can install xiaomi.eu. The ARB will be kept at the level of the official system you had.
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So the xiaomi.eu roms don't have any of that ARB stuff, good to know. Could I technically install an older version of that custom rom without triggering the ARB or is that not possible? Just so I understand that.
And how is that with other custom roms? I've read in some threads that you have to make sure you have the correct ARB if you want to flash that particular rom, why that?
Bartos81 said:
The CN system contains only Chinese and English. It does not offer Google Play, it also contains full Chinese software.
Version 6/128 is only a CN model. If the seller offers with the Global system, it means that he has unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global system. You naturally lose the Xiaomi warranty.
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I'm not worried about the warranty but more about the specifics of the device. Is the CN model different in any way that it may not work properly with the providers in europe? Or things like that?
And sadly that vendor does not seem to have that version in stock at the moment, so I was thinking of getting the regular CN version of the device, that's why I'm asking
As for xiaomi.eu it does not contain ARB, but there are exceptions. If the phone gets an update to android 9 - xiaomi.eu must use the full original xiaomi firmware from ARB. The next versions on the same adroid no longer have files responsible for ARB.
Current level of ARB = 4 from Oreo to Pie. What you can not do:
to install MIUI9,
to install Miui Global on a CN version phone with a locked bootloader
block in the bootloader if you have Miui Global on your CN
install Miui China on a Global phone and block the bootloader.
Custom GSI roms do not have an ARB, you can install anything.
Mi Max 3 in the CN version in addition to the system and memory does not differ from the specification from Global. Will work in Austria.
Bartos81 said:
As for xiaomi.eu it does not contain ARB, but there are exceptions. If the phone gets an update to android 9 - xiaomi.eu must use the full original xiaomi firmware from ARB. The next versions on the same adroid no longer have files responsible for ARB.
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So if I get the phone with Android 8.1 and I want to get MIUI 10 (Android 9) I need to update with the official rom and then flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
And while we are at that, if I buy the CN variant, do I have to upgrade to PIE with the CN official rom or can I also do this with the Global rom to get ARB to 4?
And what't the deal with the developer versions of the original roms? I've read something about them but would that help me in any way?
Found that website in another thread: Link
Bartos81 said:
Current level of ARB = 4 from Oreo to Pie. What you can not do:
to install MIUI9,
to install Miui Global on a CN version phone with a locked bootloader
block in the bootloader if you have Miui Global on your CN
install Miui China on a Global phone and block the bootloader.
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Ok but once the bootloader is open, why relock it anyway?^^ And I've read that on the xiaomi.eu roms you can not accidentaly relock the bootloader.
Bartos81 said:
Custom GSI roms do not have an ARB, you can install anything.
Mi Max 3 in the CN version in addition to the system and memory does not differ from the specification from Global. Will work in Austria.
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Working in Austria sounds good, but what exactly do you mean with "in addition to system and memory". The system and memory are different in the two versions and the rest is the same? Is there anything I should be aware of while using the phone?
Oh and by the way, thank you for answering all my questions
So if I get the phone with Android 8.1 and I want to get MIUI 10 (Android 9) I need to update with the official rom and then flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
And while we are at that, if I buy the CN variant, do I have to upgrade to PIE with the CN official rom or can I also do this with the Global rom to get ARB to 4?
And what't the deal with the developer versions of the original roms? I've read something about them but would that help me in any way?
Found that website in another thread: Link
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it's not like that. You do not need to update the system. Xiaomi.eu is built with miui china developer extended to additional language translations, optimizations of softu for Europeans and a few additions that occur only in the Chinese version of the miui.
The whole system, firmware and kernel is miui china. If you install xiaomi.eu then you install the entire system, with the firmware and kernel. They are suitable for the android version.
You can have miui global Oreo and install xiaomi.eu Pie. Everything will be updated.
Miui Global is available in Stable and Dev versions. Dev-Beta is a development version released every week, contains the latest security, system fixes and errors detected in the Stable version, as well as new additions that are tested and do not always have to work correctly (like the development version of xiaomi.eu). As developers will correct detected errors, the stable version is created.
I just installed myself Global dev. I like it more than xiaomi.eu. Everything works so far. I usually use Global dev, and xiaomi.eu tests once in a while.
Ok but once the bootloader is open, why relock it anyway?^^ And I've read that on the xiaomi.eu roms you can not accidentaly relock the bootloader.
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Some block the bootloader from ignorance or inadvertently.
When installing a new ROM by MiFlash, you have the following options:
install and block the bootloader (by default selected)
clean everything and install
save data and install
Working in Austria sounds good, but what exactly do you mean with "in addition to system and memory". The system and memory are different in the two versions and the rest is the same? Is there anything I should be aware of while using the phone?
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the parameters of the telephone accessories and the frequency ranges of the network are the same. The difference is 6gb RAM, 128gb Internal memory and MIUI china.
Bartos81 said:
it's not like that. You do not need to update the system. Xiaomi.eu is built with miui china developer extended to additional language translations, optimizations of softu for Europeans and a few additions that occur only in the Chinese version of the miui.
The whole system, firmware and kernel is miui china. If you install xiaomi.eu then you install the entire system, with the firmware and kernel. They are suitable for the android version.
You can have miui global Oreo and install xiaomi.eu Pie. Everything will be updated.
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Ok sounds good, so if I want to go for the xiaomi.eu rom, I can just go ahead an flash that thing and I'm good, that's what I understood. Is that correct?
Bartos81 said:
Miui Global is available in Stable and Dev versions. Dev-Beta is a development version released every week, contains the latest security, system fixes and errors detected in the Stable version, as well as new additions that are tested and do not always have to work correctly (like the development version of xiaomi.eu). As developers will correct detected errors, the stable version is created.
I just installed myself Global dev. I like it more than xiaomi.eu. Everything works so far. I usually use Global dev, and xiaomi.eu tests once in a while..
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Interesting, because I've read somewhere that the normal and the dev version are more or less the same, just that you have to use the dev version in certain situations to "unbrick" because of something with the bootloader (but I don't actually remember the details).
Bartos81 said:
Some block the bootloader from ignorance or inadvertently.
When installing a new ROM by MiFlash, you have the following options:
install and block the bootloader (by default selected)
clean everything and install
save data and install
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I've also read about that tool, is it required to flash roms or can I do that via TWRP? And why would such an option be selected by default...? I've already seen someone brick his device because of that
Bartos81 said:
the parameters of the telephone accessories and the frequency ranges of the network are the same. The difference is 6gb RAM, 128gb Internal memory and MIUI china.
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Ok got that, and the MIUI china doesn't really matter once I'm on the xiaomi.eu rom.
Good, I think I might actually see that I can get the cash together and order the phone Getting excited now.
Any resources I should read before I might do something stupid?
If you have an unlocked bootloader then you install twrp and flash xiaomi.eu
Interesting, because I've read somewhere that the normal and the dev version are more or less the same, just that you have to use the dev version in certain situations to "unbrick" because of something with the bootloader (but I don't actually remember the details).
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Using dev to unlock the bootloader affected old phones. Currently, it does not matter. Rom useful as well as Stable.
I've also read about that tool, is it required to flash roms or can I do that via TWRP? And why would such an option be selected by default...? I've already seen someone brick his device because of that
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Miflash is used to install only official miui Rom, you use the rom .Tgz package
It installs through Miflash with the cleaning option. It does not leave garbage in the old system.
Ok got that, and the MIUI china doesn't really matter once I'm on the xiaomi.eu rom.
Good, I think I might actually see that I can get the cash together and order the phone Getting excited now.
Any resources I should read before I might do something stupid?
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If you have xiaomi.eu then china rom does not matter.
You can look for a seller who offers a phone with downloaded xiaomi.eu or miui global - to choose from
in the past, the sellers offered the china version.
Bartos81 said:
If you have an unlocked bootloader then you install twrp and flash xiaomi.eu
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So last question for now (I hope ), if I decide to get the EU version instead, can I still unlock the bootloader or is that only possible on the CN versions?
you can in any xiaomi
Bartos81 said:
You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
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I've just read in another thread that it is 720 hours that's full 30 days... I hope it's more the 300 hours you said but I fear I might have to wait a full month for that...
Can anyone confirm this number of hours?
Cheers
Usually it is 720 hours, but I checked it every now and then, after 4 days, this time has decreased by half.
It's 100% not decreased or changed it 720 hours. Unless you had a mi account before an unlocked a phone
techdeisel said:
It's 100% not decreased or changed it 720 hours. Unless you had a mi account before an unlocked a phone
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That is an interesting note. I created an account a few days ago, when I ordered the phone. Does this already count as "having an account before trying to unlock"?
One of the Ali sellers has a good price on the China 6/128 flashed with the global 4/64 rom. Are there any issues running these? Either for ota or flashing a custom rom??
Thanks
I don't know what you mean with a "4/64 rom", but I have a 6/128GB model and I'm running the stable version of xiaomi.eu (MIUI 10.3.1.0) without any problems.
Zacki06 said:
I don't know what you mean with a "4/64 rom", but I have a 6/128GB model and I'm running the stable version of xiaomi.eu (MIUI 10.3.1.0) without any problems.
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What I mean is, Xiaomi have never made a global version of the 6/128 model of the Max 3. But there are dealers on AliExress that are selling the 6/128 with the global rom and an unlocked bootloader. So they must have flashed that with the global rom (from the 4/68 global rom).
In that case, are there any issues running the China 6/128 version with the global rom from the 4/68 version? I'm thinking mainly of how the memory map on the phones is arranged?
steve1221 said:
What I mean is, Xiaomi have never made a global version of the 6/128 model of the Max 3. But there are dealers on AliExress that are selling the 6/128 with the global rom and an unlocked bootloader. So they must have flashed that with the global rom (from the 4/68 global rom).
In that case, are there any issues running the China 6/128 version with the global rom from the 4/68 version? I'm thinking mainly of how the memory map on the phones is arranged?
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Well from my limited knowledge that I gained reading tons of threads about the Max 3, it seems that this vendor used a "fake unlock" for the phone and you might have quite a bit of trouble updating because of that.
I'm not sure if you would run into problems by just running the global version of the rom on the Chinese version of the device but I guess not, otherwise I'm sure that I would have read that somewhere.
If you go forward buying the device, please inform yourself about this fake unlock of Chinese vendors, there is some information around about that.
But if you want to go the safer route, buy the device at a vendor that sells it with the Chinese rom and then unlock it yourself (you will most likely have to do that as well with the fake unlocked one) and then flash any rom you wish.
I bought mine from Tradinshenzhen and I'm very pleased with the entire process (around 3 Weeks to austria without any further cost and just 15€ shipping. you can get 5€ off by signing up for their newsletter).
And for me personally I'm using the xiaomi.eu stable rom as mentioned earlier. It offers quite a bit of improvement over the official rom, but some report that it's not running "stable" for them. Don't know what they are talking about, for me it's running just fine.
Zacki06 said:
Well from my limited knowledge that I gained reading tons of threads about the Max 3, it seems that this vendor used a "fake unlock" for the phone and you might have quite a bit of trouble updating because of that.
I'm not sure if you would run into problems by just running the global version of the rom on the Chinese version of the device but I guess not, otherwise I'm sure that I would have read that somewhere.
If you go forward buying the device, please inform yourself about this fake unlock of Chinese vendors, there is some information around about that.
But if you want to go the safer route, buy the device at a vendor that sells it with the Chinese rom and then unlock it yourself (you will most likely have to do that as well with the fake unlocked one) and then flash any rom you wish.
I bought mine from Tradinshenzhen and I'm very pleased with the entire process (around 3 Weeks to austria without any further cost and just 15€ shipping. you can get 5€ off by signing up for their newsletter).
And for me personally I'm using the xiaomi.eu stable rom as mentioned earlier. It offers quite a bit of improvement over the official rom, but some report that it's not running "stable" for them. Don't know what they are talking about, for me it's running just fine.
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Many thanks. I hadn't realized that there even were fake roms!
It sounds far safer to buy the China 6/128 and do it yourself! I've used Tradinshenzhen in the past, so I'll see what they have.
Thanks again
Im using also the 6/128GB version, which was unofficial unlocked. I'm using latest xiaomi.eu beta roms since a whole time. All fine
steve1221 said:
Many thanks. I hadn't realized that there even were fake roms!
It sounds far safer to buy the China 6/128 and do it yourself! I've used Tradinshenzhen in the past, so I'll see what they have.
Thanks again
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You are very welcome, good luck with flashing and enjoy your new Mi Max 3
Spillunke said:
Im using also the 6/128GB version, which was unofficial unlocked. I'm using latest xiaomi.eu beta roms since a whole time. All fine
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I know that it is possible, but it is quite a hassle. You need to re-lock the bootloader and make sure you get a proper Rom. Of course it can be done, no question.
But I guess it makes more sense to buy a legitimate phone + Rom if you are aware that these things exist rather than knowingly buying one with a fake Rom and fake unlock that involves more work.
I can recommend Tradingshenzhen as a source for a 6/128. After actually using the custom nitrogen TWRP I flashed the LineageOS GSI today and it seems to be working just fine. They even provide some tools and a guide to get Xiaomi.eu running (a version that does not yet have ARB!)
Also that company's support staff is better than anything I have seen in a long, LONG while from any webshop across the world.
Hi all,
I am a big fan of Miui, and since 2012 i am using Xiaomi devices. Currently I'm having Mi 11 Lite 4g Indian version. Even though Global, EEA, Indonesia versions got Miui 14 for Mi 11 Lite, Indian version didn't. What matters is it is not listed in Miui India official release schedule. What may be the reason?? Won't we get Miui 14 in India for Courbet??
This question is better suited for Xiaomi forums, and even then I'm not sure you'd be able to get the answer you seek since virtually all people there don't work for the firm (i.e., they know what you know and have access to the information you do).
Either way, release schedules are orientative, take them with a grain of salt, Xiaomi's software support isn't on par with some others' to be honest; there are even differences in upstream Android versions between devices released in China and their international equivalents, much more when it comes to MIUI features.
In any case, I wouldn't be surprised if MIUI 14 were released for the Indian variant at a later date, and if you are comfortable running it with an unlocked bootloader, you can unlock it and flash a Global release, for example.