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Do You think that the camera in S9 will be minimum or much better than in S8?

Do You think that the camera in S9 will be minimum or much better than in S8?

Well I mean, the only details Samsung has officially released about the S9 itself is "The camera, reimagined," so uh yeah

Minimal change, with some new effect of a selfie or something like that.

Coolyou said:
Minimal change, with some new effect of a selfie or something like that.
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I wonder if camera wise S9 (single)= Note8(double)
cause S9+(double) > Note8 (double)

It already revealed that is has super slow motion (f/1.5, 26mm, 1/2.5", 1.4 µm, Dual Pixel PDAF)

Considering I always put a custom AOSP-based ROM on my phones, I've sort of lost hope in having a decent camera. Because of... reasons... you lose out on the amazing camera capabilities if you don't run a stock ROM. It's quite depressing knowing the camera is far more-capable than what I'm getting out of it.

sremick said:
Considering I always put a custom AOSP-based ROM on my phones, I've sort of lost hope in having a decent camera. Because of... reasons... you lose out on the amazing camera capabilities if you don't run a stock ROM. It's quite depressing knowing the camera is far more-capable than what I'm getting out of it.
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That really suxx. But wasn't it always like that in Samsung phones? And in others?

androidbadboy said:
That really suxx. But wasn't it always like that in Samsung phones? And in others?
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As a former Sony user, I can say it's the same on there. Something related to DRM-Protected drivers.

R!n said:
As a former Sony user, I can say it's the same on there. Something related to DRM-Protected drivers.
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But that happend since S8 or was always the problem in all Samsung phones?

androidbadboy said:
But that happend since S8 or was always the problem in all Samsung phones?
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I can't really say, I never owned a Galaxy since the S2. Was looking to see if the S9+ ends up being better than the Mate 10, or at least drop the price of the Note 8.

R!n said:
I can't really say, I never owned a Galaxy since the S2. Was looking to see if the S9+ ends up being better than the Mate 10, or at least drop the price of the Note 8.
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So Mate 10 is better than S8/S8+ ?! In what may I ask? Seriously, no hard feelings and irony here.

androidbadboy said:
So Mate 10 is better than S8/S8+ ?! In what may I ask? Seriously, no hard feelings and irony here.
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Mainly just the camera. Performance-wise the Mate 10 lacks in numbers, but it still feels just as snappy.
The monochrome cameras are great, and the camera app's pro mode is really nice to take some great pictures with. I especially fell in love with the 30s exposure.

R!n said:
Mainly just the camera. Performance-wise the Mate 10 lacks in numbers, but it still feels just as snappy.
The monochrome cameras are great, and the camera app's pro mode is really nice to take some great pictures with. I especially fell in love with the 30s exposure.
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Dude! Please help me out here. Is the camera pics and recording better in Mate 10 than in S8/S8+ are U 100% suer?
Cuz if that's true I may buy that phone,

androidbadboy said:
Dude! Please help me out here. Is the camera pics and recording better in Mate 10 than in S8/S8+ are U 100% suer?
Cuz if that's true I may buy that phone,
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Photos yes, video recording not so much, not sure why.
Also be aware that the Mate 10 Pro does not have a 3.5mm jack or SD card slot, but 256GB internal memory instead.

R!n said:
Photos yes, video recording not so much, not sure why.
Also be aware that the Mate 10 Pro does not have a 3.5mm jack or SD card slot, but 256GB internal memory instead.
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How about Note8, are thie pics from Mate also better than Galaxy Note8?

Nope camera won't be good until they overcome the hardware limitation, 12 mega pixels are good, but when you see the pics on computer or zoom in then you see the blur and weakness of 12 mp camera but i know that in past 22 megapixels sonys have really bad image quality because it doesn't depend solely on increased mp, but for a real upgrade now they need to increase megapixels while still retaining same image quality, atleast 20 megapixel and still a large aperture size is the only thing that can push me to upgrade, other than that, front facing fingerprint scanner and atleast 3600+ mah battery is a must, but its still nice that they added stereo speakers, i would like to see fm radio and infrared back too. Btw both exynos 9810 and snapdragon 845 are still far behind from apple's A12 bionic chip, both in terms of processor and gpu performance. So a hard choice which to upgrade atm.
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shah22 said:
Nope camera won't be good until they overcome the hardware limitation, 12 mega pixels are good, but when you see the pics on computer or zoom in then you see the blur and weakness of 12 mp camera but i know that in past 22 megapixels sonys have really bad image quality because it doesn't depend solely on increased mp, but for a real upgrade now they need to increase megapixels while still retaining same image quality, atleast 20 megapixel and still a large aperture size is the only thing that can push me to upgrade, other than that, front facing fingerprint scanner and atleast 3600+ mah battery is a must, but its still nice that they added stereo speakers, i would like to see fm radio and infrared back too. Btw both exynos 9810 and snapdragon 845 are still far behind from apple's A12 bionic chip, both in terms of processor and gpu performance. So a hard choice which to upgrade atm.
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So You wouldnt upgrade to Mate 10 PRo, S9/s9+ and Apple X from S7 Edge?
How about if you have had S6EPlus ? would You upgrade then? If yes to which phone?

Some general points.
Megapixels has nothing to do with it really. It's the size of the sensor. I do have it on good authority though that at least one of the well known brands is working on a halo product with a 1" sensor. But expect it to cost the earth, if it sees the light of day, and to be much thicker than today's flagships.
Probably the P20 with its triple camera sensor (likely interpolated into single auto HDR images) and software collaboration with Leica is likely to be the best bet for photography this year. But expect to get *at best* dual camera support on custom ROMs (if OpenCamera / LineageCamera / GoogleCamera begin supporting dual configs).
S9 and S9+ will probably show quite a bit of improvement in low light, and autofocus.
I really wish Samsung would allow Samsung Camera to run on their phones that run AOSP / custom ROMs. I can see why Sony, and to some extent Huawei won't, as smaller players with niches. But Samsung are the market leader and could still attach function to hardware IDs, rather than allowing it to work on competitors' phones.
If Nokia / HMD keep improving sales, I'm pretty sure you'll see Pureview, or something similar resurrected. Protos / designs are certainly being looked at, but likely depend on them continuing to build momentum. If they have a good 2018, expect to see something from them in 2019 with 4-6+ rear camera sensors ... bit like a mini L16. But, again, expect them to lock the software to their stock ROM.

mudnightoil said:
Some general points.
Megapixels has nothing to do with it really. It's the size of the sensor. I do have it on good authority though that at least one of the well known brands is working on a halo product with a 1" sensor. But expect it to cost the earth, if it sees the light of day, and to be much thicker than today's flagships.
Probably the P20 with its triple camera sensor (likely interpolated into single auto HDR images) and software collaboration with Leica is likely to be the best bet for photography this year. But expect to get *at best* dual camera support on custom ROMs (if OpenCamera / LineageCamera / GoogleCamera begin supporting dual configs).
S9 and S9+ will probably show quite a bit of improvement in low light, and autofocus.
I really wish Samsung would allow Samsung Camera to run on their phones that run AOSP / custom ROMs. I can see why Sony, and to some extent Huawei won't, as smaller players with niches. But Samsung are the market leader and could still attach function to hardware IDs, rather than allowing it to work on competitors' phones.
If Nokia / HMD keep improving sales, I'm pretty sure you'll see Pureview, or something similar resurrected. Protos / designs are certainly being looked at, but likely depend on them continuing to build momentum. If they have a good 2018, expect to see something from them in 2019 with 4-6+ rear camera sensors ... bit like a mini L16. But, again, expect them to lock the software to their stock ROM.
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Thanks and wow for that massive knowledge. I wonder what P20 will bring to the table with their 5 cams. 27th March is the premiere. How much will it cost in Your opinion. EUR or USD please if possible and add with or without tax.

I'm almost exclusively interested in the video camera capabilities of the S9+. I can manage with a mediocre photo camera but video needs to be class-leading in smartphones.
Ability to shoot UHD video in h.265 compression + much better low light performance than Note 4 = I'd be very happy.
Sadly LG put an undersized sensor in their V30 (not to mention the sucky POLED display) - otherwise I might grab a V30 right now for a good price. I wonder what LG has in store for the V40, given their focus on video shooting prowess.

Getting a LG V30 in 2019

Well, what should i say? I'm a ex LG G5 User, tripped over to a Axon 7, Xperia XZ Premium, Pixel 2 XL, Mix 2, Galaxy S9+ and now... Back to LG. I reall like the Design of the V30. The Hardware is still in competition with Devices like the OnePlus 7 Pro (Maybe beyond with Dolby and the Audio), and that for 200€ + 64Gb Card. Here is the Point.
What do You like for/on the V30? Stock ROM (Pie) or do You prefer AOSP? I will Support this Device once it's in My Hands...
Looking Forward to get the best Out of this great Device!

Miustone said:
Well, what should i say? I'm a ex LG G5 User, tripped over to a Axon 7, Xperia XZ Premium, Pixel 2 XL, Mix 2, Galaxy S9+ and now... Back to LG. I reall like the Design of the V30. The Hardware is still in competition with Devices like the OnePlus 7 Pro (Maybe beyond with Dolby and the Audio), and that for 200€ + 64Gb Card. Here is the Point.
What do You like for/on the V30? Stock ROM (Pie) or do You prefer AOSP? I will Support this Device once it's in My Hands...
Looking Forward to get the best Out of this great Device!
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I stay on aosp. It squeeze an avergare of 9+ sot out of a 3300 batter.y . Though v30 can't compare cpu to op7 pro, but gaming is ok for me

I think v30 is a still solid phone in 2k19. Sd835 4 gb ram and 64gb rom with expandable storage. Great cameras. Selfie is garbage but good enough when u use gcam. Still a competitor

Miustone said:
Well, what should i say? I'm a ex LG G5 User, tripped over to a Axon 7, Xperia XZ Premium, Pixel 2 XL, Mix 2, Galaxy S9+ and now... Back to LG. I reall like the Design of the V30. The Hardware is still in competition with Devices like the OnePlus 7 Pro (Maybe beyond with Dolby and the Audio), and that for 200€ + 64Gb Card. Here is the Point.
What do You like for/on the V30? Stock ROM (Pie) or do You prefer AOSP? I will Support this Device once it's in My Hands...
Looking Forward to get the best Out of this great Device!
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I think it's a great phone for the price.
Amazing rear camera.
Qhd amoled display.
I switch between stock and aosp.
Audio features are amazing.
Battery life break.
The only thing is front camera is not on par with newer phones and even with SD835 gaming is still good for me.

Miustone said:
Well, what should i say? I'm a ex LG G5 User, tripped over to a Axon 7, Xperia XZ Premium, Pixel 2 XL, Mix 2, Galaxy S9+ and now... Back to LG. I reall like the Design of the V30. The Hardware is still in competition with Devices like the OnePlus 7 Pro (Maybe beyond with Dolby and the Audio), and that for 200€ + 64Gb Card. Here is the Point.
What do You like for/on the V30? Stock ROM (Pie) or do You prefer AOSP? I will Support this Device once it's in My Hands...
Looking Forward to get the best Out of this great Device!
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Go for the V30+, 128GB. Here in the U.S. you can get mint V30+ for $160.
I stay on stock rooted firmware, with Magisk mods. Pie is still being rolled out to all the variants.
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LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo (with root to enable LG libs)
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root
* no notch

Got the V30S+ in 2019 (H930DS variant) and am completely satisfied with it. 256 GB storage and 6GB RAM with the SD835 is really plenty of resource for at least a couple of years.

ChazzMatt said:
Go for the V30+, 128GB. Here in the U.S. you can get mint V30+ for $160.
I stay on stock rooted firmware, with Magisk mods. Pie is still being rolled out to all the variants.
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* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo(with root to enable LG libs)
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root
* no notch
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What magisk mods do you use? I haven't installed any yet and wanted to know which mods are popular.
Thanks.

Getting My Device tomorrow. It's a H930, and i've already reactivated My LG Account for the BL unlock.
Glad to hear that i'm Not alone with My Opinion so far.
Think it will make a lot of fun to Develop for this Baby

Miustone said:
Getting My Device tomorrow.
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Welcome aboard!
Miustone said:
i've already reactivated My LG Account for the BL unlock.
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If you do it that way, you willingly waive warranty to get LG bootloader unlock code.
If you use WTF instructions to unlock bootloader, you don't tell LG you wish to waive warranty. You don't need their permission.
Your choice.
I did it the official way for one of my US998 until WTF became available.
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154

Stock rooted (Magisk) Oreo on my H931 converted to a US998, not one issue, 9+ hours of SOT effectively every charge if I want it, even hit 17+ one time (seriously).
Not interested in Pie at all, it'll probably be nothing but problems since Oreo is so mature now and Pie really offers nothing of any consequence or new that matters at all to me.
The V30 is damned near perfect, really. Sure, the stock camera software is a bit yucky, sadly, but aside from that (Gcam has some ports that work great and provide much better image quality) it's pretty much the best smartphone I've ever owned - and I've owned over 300 of 'em over the years (yes that means 300 different ones).
Honestly I still miss the LG G4, best camera assembly ever IMO, even to this day there was just something truly magical about that hardware and software combination that took pics I still can't improve on with even the newest cameras in the latest smartphones. It was just so oddly unique, a seriously awesome happy coincidence that I'll miss for a long time.

br0adband said:
Stock rooted (Magisk) Oreo on my H931 converted to a US998, not one issue, 9+ hours of SOT effectively every charge if I want it, even hit 17+ one time (seriously).
Not interested in Pie at all, it'll probably be nothing but problems since Oreo is so mature now and Pie really offers nothing of any consequence or new that matters at all to me.
The V30 is damned near perfect, really. Sure, the stock camera software is a bit yucky, sadly, but aside from that (Gcam has some ports that work great and provide much better image quality) it's pretty much the best smartphone I've ever owned - and I've owned over 300 of 'em over the years (yes that means 300 different ones).
Honestly I still miss the LG G4, best camera assembly ever IMO, even to this day there was just something truly magical about that hardware and software combination that took pics I still can't improve on with even the newest cameras in the latest smartphones. It was just so oddly unique, a seriously awesome happy coincidence that I'll miss for a long time.
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How the heck do you guys get suck long SOT times. I'm at 4 hours.

s2jpark said:
How the heck do you guys get suck long SOT times. I'm at 4 hours.
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No gaming and mostly wifi, low brightness with dark theme help

s2jpark said:
What magisk mods do you use? I haven't installed any yet and wanted to know which mods are popular.
Thanks.
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s2jpark said:
How the heck do you guys get suck long SOT times. I'm at 4 hours.
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I get around 4-5 hours sot with a lot of gaming.

The V30 is perfect almost everything you'd want . Only gripe is the speaker and maybe camera lacking a bit.

Mrxyzl said:
No gaming and mostly wifi, low brightness with dark theme help
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Got it. I have to tone down the brawl stars

s2jpark said:
How the heck do you guys get suck long SOT times. I'm at 4 hours.
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I don't play games, but I recently did get a Daydream View VR headset from another member here (thanks again!) and was playing with that a few days ago when it arrived. Still haven't installed any games on it and I may never do it, it's more of something to experiment with than anything else.
Dark theme as already mentioned (I'm on Oreo so the LG G8 dark theme on the Play Store works fine, I know the Pie update breaks some aspects but I think there's a fix for it somewhere that I saw mention of). I use dark themes with every app that I can - I keep my brightness at 50% always except for instances where I'm in a really bright environment like outdoors or someplace with excessive fluorescent lighting (at never more than 90% brightness) or watching videos (75%). NEVER use 100% brightness, seriously, it's a waste of power and the OLED display in the V30 doesn't like it, no OLEDs do really, the 90% point (tap the brightness icon on the notification dropdown once or twice and you'll see it) is more than enough.
I don't use Bluetooth save for the Daydream View thing but that was just for a few hours and honestly I kept the damned phone plugged in (thank some higher power for long USB-C cables) when I did it. I only use Google Voice for my "phone calls" and texts so I rarely ever enable the cellular at home and only when I'm out.
I kill apps I'm not using, don't care how efficient the Snapdragon 835 might be, or Oreo, if I'm not using an app it's not gonna sit there so my recent apps list is almost always empty. I don't use social media crap like Facebook, Twitter, Whatsapp, Instagram, etc, just Discord and Hangouts to keep in touch with people, and a lot of Flipboard and Google News activity but really that's pretty much it.
Biggest tip: TURN DOWN THE DAMNED BRIGHTNESS. Seriously. Run it at 50% or even less as often as you possibly can, disable auto-brightness, and learn to not use more than necessary - the brightness of the display is still the single largest waste of power on smartphones in general and it can be cut in half or more by just lowering it and not having max brightness all the time like I see so many people do.

So i really see a hard decision Here again like on Xperias.
Stock feels good to me and has some nice Features Like the DAC Switch. But AOSP will give extra Battery Life and LG was slow with the Updates. Android Q will be a huge Update that comes These Days and i'm not even sure If the V30 will get it officially one Day. So in View of Support would it make more Sense for Me to Work with AOSP in theory...
Will unlock My Baby today and Play a bit around. Thanks for all the Input Folks! Feels already good to be here in the Forum

Greetings all.
I'm in dilemma so I need your advice. Little background first.
Had the LG g5 h850, Was completely pleased with it, until I smashed it by accident. Went to a sammy s9+, which is a very good all around phone..
However, I'm considering coming back to LG.
The exynos devices have next to 0 gcam support wheres Gcam on the G5 was just perfect. no need to edit the pictures after, the color balance was great, very sharp, plus night mode.
I barely play games, so I doubt the older chipset will matter.
My only concern is about the 4 gigs of ram since i heavily multitask.
I can find the us998 vesrion for around 170e refurb from china but I can't find the 6 gig version, Was it sold only in the US or something?
Anyhow my choices are
LG v30 refurb - 170e
new xiaomi Mi mix 2s - 250
new redmi k20 pro - 300
I'm more inclined to go for the v30, what would you do?

Cruel, can't unlock My Device because My Surface Pro 3 can't handle the Power from the USB3.1 V30 Port in Fastboot. Windows said: "Overpowered USB Connection" once i rebooted into the Bootloader... Any Suggestions? Or do i need to use a modern PC?

How about using a crappy cord?

This phone vs Asus ROG Phone 2

What do you guys think? I am leaning towards ROG Phone 2

ROG Phone 2 is missing some LTE bands. Check it out before you decide.

aoaleman said:
ROG Phone 2 is missing some LTE bands. Check it out before you decide.
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I don't mind missing VoLTE mad WiFi calling .. I am just excited about that 120hz display and that battery

90hz /120hz
Only a hand full of games support either.
The battery is a big difference and the triggers.
That being said the camera on the OnePlus will make the rog look awful.

I'm conflicted as well. Here in India both of them(8gb ram+128gb rom) cost the same (Rs 38,000~$530). Rog 2 has a 120hz panel, a bigger battery, THE HEADPHONE JACK, a dedicated cooling system while the op7t has a better camera and community/dev support. I'm hella confused rn :/

dladz said:
90hz /120hz
Only a hand full of games support either.
The battery is a big difference and the triggers.
That being said the camera on the OnePlus will make the rog look awful.
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I don't think camera on ROG is that bad compared to OnePlus

dudeperfect said:
I'm conflicted as well. Here in India both of them(8gb ram+128gb rom) cost the same (Rs 38,000~$530). Rog 2 has a 120hz panel, a bigger battery, THE HEADPHONE JACK, a dedicated cooling system while the op7t has a better camera and community/dev support. I'm hella confused rn :/
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This is the same thought I have. I'm pretty sure that the ROG won't get any dev support unless a lot of development interested guys opt for ROG instead of 7T since they've same price. At the same time, even OnePlus phones had great development support, the 7 is still very far behind any OnePlus phone. Also for last few years I don't have any interest in gaming. The only high-end game I was interested in those times was Asphalt. That's why I'm thinking why should I go for a game-centric phone.
Also in the upcoming Amazon sale the price of 7 Pro is 44,999 for 6GB version. If it is able to add another discount with SBI card it can be grabbed for 42,999. But I don't like the curved screen, also not sure about reliability of front camera sliding. As you said too much confusion. :/

Same Confusion
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This is the same thought I have. I'm pretty sure that the ROG won't get any dev support unless a lot of development interested guys opt for ROG instead of 7T since they've same price. At the same time, even OnePlus phones had great development support, the 7 is still very far behind any OnePlus phone. Also for last few years I don't have any interest in gaming. The only high-end game I was interested in those times was Asphalt. That's why I'm thinking why should I go for a game-centric phone.
Also in the upcoming Amazon sale the price of 7 Pro is 44,999 for 6GB version. If it is able to add another discount with SBI card it can be grabbed for 42,999. But I don't like the curved screen, also not sure about reliability of front camera sliding. As you said too much confusion. :/
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Same confusion here.
I really like both the phones but feel that ROG II is a lot better on paper than the 7T, and since the price is the same, why not buy it. But 2 concerns make me want to buy the 7T over ROG II. Those are:
1. Overall UI experience (7T has to be definitely better, I assume, since they've placed extra effort on Design and the smoothness as overall, and also maybe because ROG II has just stock Android 9 UI [from ZenFone 6z] without any optimization)
2. Custom Dev support (which am pretty sure is where 7T will shine, but for now am less concerned about it because of HDR and any other such features that will be rendered useless once the phone is bootloader-unlocked)
3. After-Sales Service (again OnePlus might be a definite win, but only because I don't know of the current situation with the ASUS after-sales service, if someone can enlighten me, please!!)
But there are more reasons to buy ROG Phone II over 7T:
1. 120Hz Display w/240Hz Touch Response (although some user was reporting that he/she was able to see some flickering or graininess with the 120Hz RR, none of the Youtubers reviews mentioned any such thing so might be a false-positive, MKBHD though pointed out that the screen would light up a bit when trying to fingerprint unlock)
2. Headphone jack w/Hi-Res Audio output
3. Front-facing dual speaker with the NXP Amplifiers (They are really good from all the reviews that I've watched)
4. 6000mAh battery (just massive and a kind of a must nowadays, I like that they didn't try to compromise at all)
I have been into Android Rooting etc. ever since I got my Xperia U (my 1st ever Android phone) and have been into it till now. Earlier I would just get my new phone, dig into XDA forums and start following the bootloader unlocking process and rooting my phone if it was available. Heck, I rooted my HTC One M8 and OnePlus 3T on day 1/2.
Please provide some inputs if anybody has any recent experience with Asus Mobile Service Centres

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I don't think camera on ROG is that bad compared to OnePlus
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It's adequate but not close to comparable mate.

dladz said:
It's adequate but not close to comparable mate.
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Let's wait for stable GCam on both. GCam will change everything

When an update from Asus comes, it resolves 5 and adds 6 issues.
#Fact
#Livedit

Mayank7795 said:
Let's wait for stable GCam on both. GCam will change everything
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Gcam can be tweaked to perfection, but it's not a simple task mate, the drivers, hardware limitations, theres so much that can go wrong and only a handful of people who know their stuff.
Has Asus released all the code for the ROG?
have only owned the Asus prime and that was a biblical pain in the backside to work with, had some help from a talented guy over there though but I got lucky.
I'm not bashing the ROG either, I think it's a bold move and one that I really want to work, I think we're at a point now where CPU /GPU combinations have got so much grunt it's crazy, so many pc games would run on the ROG 1 never mind the ROG 2.
How's the TV out on it? Any latency issues? Can it output at 90hz/120hz?
I think that would be impressive.
You should try my pc gaming on android guide, I think you'd love it. Plus you'd be getting the maximum refresh rate.
I wrote guides for playing 3 classic actual of games locally on android. I'd be interested to see what they run like, the OnePlus 5 could run them perfectly, even with TV out via displaylink.
I'll see if I can find the link, the guys on xda did an article about it.
Games are
Quake 3 arena (works online too)
Return to castle Wolfenstein (not sure about online)
Doom 3 (not sure about online, but I doubt anyone plays it anymore)
Don't need to be rooted either iirc.

dladz said:
Gcam can be tweaked to perfection, but it's not a simple task mate, the drivers, hardware limitations, theres so much that can go wrong and only a handful of people who know their stuff.
Has Asus released all the code for the ROG?
have only owned the Asus prime and that was a biblical pain in the backside to work with, had some help from a talented guy over there though but I got lucky.
I'm not bashing the ROG either, I think it's a bold move and one that I really want to work, I think we're at a point now where CPU /GPU combinations have got so much grunt it's crazy, so many pc games would run on the ROG 1 never mind the ROG 2.
How's the TV out on it? Any latency issues? Can it output at 90hz/120hz?
I think that would be impressive.
You should try my pc gaming on android guide, I think you'd love it. Plus you'd be getting the maximum refresh rate.
I wrote guides for playing 3 classic actual of games locally on android. I'd be interested to see what they run like, the OnePlus 5 could run them perfectly, even with TV out via displaylink.
I'll see if I can find the link, the guys on xda did an article about it.
Games are
Quake 3 arena (works online too)
Return to castle Wolfenstein (not sure about online)
Doom 3 (not sure about online, but I doubt anyone plays it anymore)
Don't need to be rooted either iirc.
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If you could link me to that guide, will be happy to check. I don't have TV and Cables etc. here right now so that's not possible.

If someone is really interested in gaming and undying battery back up he should have no 2nd thought about going with rog 2. I am oneplus fan but i miss two things in my op7t that rog 2 has, 6000 mah battery and headphone jack, specially the bigger battery.

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If you could link me to that guide, will be happy to check. I don't have TV and Cables etc. here right now so that's not possible.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/themes/playing-3-classic-fps-pc-games-htc-10-t3606762
Here u go mate.
Lol this was the HTC 10 so it's been a while.
I think once you get one of these up and running you'll want to experiment with keyboard and mouse especially for the likes of quake arena as you'll be getting dragged quite a lot

OnePlus 8 Pro India Thread

Hey Guys, Lets use this thread for India 8pro.
I am currently using Huawei P30 pro and planning to shift to OP8P, if the camera is at par with other flagship phones.
Let the thoughts flow

- I doubt the camera will be on par with other top of the line flagships. Moreover the hype so far hasn't been on the camera - maybe it says something about its inferiority but that I'm just guessing only, for now.

Virgo_Guy said:
- I doubt the camera will be on par with other top of the line flagships. Moreover the hype so far hasn't been on the camera - maybe it says something about its inferiority but that I'm just guessing only, for now.
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Sony imx689 is one of the best sensors in mobile industry and if oppo can achieve excellent images from it then oneplus can surely oneup them becuase oneplus has always had better software algorithms compared to oppo although both have same parent company. You can find reviews of oppo find x2 pro anywhere on internet, it is basically same as oneplus 8 pro albiet some design changes and without periscopic zoom.
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Came across a leak stating the price of oneplus 8 pro at 6499 yuan. That converts to 68999/- really hope it doesnt cross 60k

kumar abhishek said:
Sony imx689 is one of the best sensors in mobile industry and if oppo can achieve excellent images from it then oneplus can surely oneup them becuase oneplus has always had better software algorithms compared to oppo although both have same parent company. You can find reviews of oppo find x2 pro anywhere on internet, it is basically same as oneplus 8 pro albiet some design changes and without periscopic zoom.
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Well aware of those, it's just that based on the history of OnePlus @ overall camera performance and not so factual camera hype in the past, I'm curiously looking forward to the cameras than anything else, as the rest(excluding their recent trend of curves) never disappointed.
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Came across a leak stating the price of oneplus 8 pro at 6499 yuan. That converts to 68999/- really hope it doesnt cross 60k
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Cosidering official IP certification, wireless charging, hiked GST etc., 60K is less likely I think.

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Well aware of those, it's just that based on the history of OnePlus @ overall camera performance and not so factual camera hype in the past, I'm curiously looking forward to the cameras than anything else, as the rest(excluding their recent trend of curves) never disappointed.
Cosidering official IP certification, wireless charging, hiked GST etc., 60K is less likely I think.
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There are hyping the camera this time around. An example is here
https://twitter.com/oneplus/status/1247147094130987011?s=19
Its just that their core focus is keeping the same marketing strategy like in past and that is hyping the speed.
And yes you are right i can see them going north of 65k this time around.

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There are hyping the camera this time around. An example is here
https://twitter.com/oneplus/status/1247147094130987011?s=19
Its just that their core focus is keeping the same marketing strategy like in past and that is hyping the speed.
And yes you are right i can see them going north of 65k this time around.
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Even if they hype, my eyebrows still get raised @ OP's camera, especially bcoz of terms like "intelligent pixel technology" @ 5T, 111 DxO score of 7 Pro etc.. but then, this time around I expect them to offer something unquestionably stellar with those capable sensors.
Thankfully, the speed so far has been proven as real in every iteration and as long as the "speed hype" reflects across the board I don't mind it at all.

When will these go on actual sale in India?

What are your expectations for indian pricing?

I think the price for 8 pro 12/256 GB will be around 70k. Well, we will know in a few days. For the first time, I am genuinely interested in a oneplus device (have been using Samsung Galaxy for years). Thanks to Samsung going nuts with S20 series, I might actually end up buying the top spec 8 pro! Just waiting for an in depth camera review before jumping in though. I'm totally in, if the camera results are comparable to find X2 pro, which is better than s20 ultra and at least on par with p40 pro IMO wrt to camera.

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I think the price for 8 pro 12/256 GB will be around 70k. Well, we will know in a few days. For the first time, I am genuinely interested in a oneplus device (have been using Samsung Galaxy for years). Thanks to Samsung going nuts with S20 series, I might actually end up buying the top spec 8 pro! Just waiting for an in depth camera review before jumping in though. I'm totally in, if the camera results are comparable to find X2 pro, which is better than s20 ultra and at least on par with p40 pro IMO wrt to camera.
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......The camera setup is very good, requires precision in the software part it seems that OP will do like last year I believe.
In comparison to the X2 Pro, the zoom will not be on par as the 8 Pro lacks the 5x periscope.

Virgo_Guy said:
......The camera setup is very good, requires precision in the software part it seems that OP will do like last year I believe.
In comparison to the X2 Pro, the zoom will not be on par as the 8 Pro lacks the 5x periscope.
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I know. I won't miss the 5x periscope zoom though, as much as the lack of a 512 GB version (since my current phone is 512 GB S10+ exynos)! Inclusion of both above options would have made the 8 pro perfect IMO.

Looking at aggressive price in China and OnePlus India's tweet, it's probably safe to expect reasonably fair pricing in India as well.

India prices revealed
128gb = 55k
256gb= 60k
Excellent pricing

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I know. I won't miss the 5x periscope zoom though, as much as the lack of a 512 GB version (since my current phone is 512 GB S10+ exynos)! Inclusion of both above options would have made the 8 pro perfect IMO.
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I don't need that much storage in a phone, but I can completely understand many actually need it.
On the other hand, so far I've not been that happy with the cameras from a few aspects, especially looking at the chart toppers!
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India prices revealed
128gb = 55k
256gb= 60k
Excellent pricing
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Finely priced, this lower than Chinese pricing might be due to the fact that consumers will get their units pretty "late" this time around unlike all these years in their extremely important market..

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I don't need that much storage in a phone, but I can completely understand many actually need it.
On the other hand, so far I've not been that happy with the cameras from a few aspects, especially looking at the chart toppers!
Finely priced, this lower than Chinese pricing might be due to the fact that consumers will get their units pretty "late" this time around unlike all these years in their extremely important market..
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The pricing is very good indeed! The camera hardware (especially main and ultra wide) on the OP 8 pro is promising/flagship grade. I'm sure any existing issues/niggles can be fixed with future updates (white balance, night mode etc.) and apparently one plus is already on it as per this YouTube reviewer.

Dpk1 said:
The pricing is very good indeed! The camera hardware (especially main and ultra wide) on the OP 8 pro is promising/flagship grade. I'm sure any existing issues/niggles can be fixed with future updates (white balance, night mode etc.) and apparently one plus is already on it as per this YouTube reviewer.
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Existing niggles will be minimised through software, just like how OP did with 7Pro, not doubting on it.
However, my dis-satisfaction is based on lack of hardware elements upon which software can't do much :
- It doesn't have the Oppo Find X2/X2 Pro's faster f/1.7 aperture in the main cam.
- Front camera isn't as wide as the galaxies or a few others. Also, it has a smaller aperture in comparison to last year's OP7Pro.(f/2.5 vs f/2.0).
- The 5 MP "color filter camera" exists just for the namesake of "quad camera setup", it does depth sensing(?), but not a ToF one . To my eyes, it's for decoration, rather than any real benefit.
- Lack of periscope setup means lack of details on zoomed distant objects. Price is now in flagship territory in several regions.

Agree. I have a P30 pro and am looking to change my phone, was thinking of Oneplus 8 pro, but then it will be a downgrade in terms of camera, battery life, battery charging speed etc.
Anyone have any good suggestions which phone should i buy? (no xiaomi, vivo, oppo, mi)..

pratik_193 said:
Agree. I have a P30 pro and am looking to change my phone, was thinking of Oneplus 8 pro, but then it will be a downgrade in terms of camera, battery life, battery charging speed etc.
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In the camera section, mainly keeping the zooming and low light performances aside, the 8 pro's overall cam performances (with consecutive updates) wouldn't be at all, an inferior one to the P30 Pro I would say.
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Anyone have any good suggestions which phone should i buy? (no xiaomi, vivo, oppo, mi)..
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It's easy to suggest OP8Pro as it checks the most, right number of boxes amongst the rest available in the Android side at present..

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Existing niggles will be minimised through software, just like how OP did with 7Pro, not doubting on it.
However, my dis-satisfaction is based on lack of hardware elements upon which software can't do much :
- It doesn't have the Oppo Find X2/X2 Pro's faster f/1.7 aperture in the main cam.
- Front camera isn't as wide as the galaxies or a few others. Also, it has a smaller aperture in comparison to last year's OP7Pro.(f/2.5 vs f/2.0).
- The 5 MP "color filter camera" exists just for the namesake of "quad camera setup", it does depth sensing(?), but not a ToF one . To my eyes, it's for decoration, rather than any real benefit.
- Lack of periscope setup means lack of details on zoomed distant objects. Price is now in flagship territory in several regions.
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Yeah, let's wait for the detailed reviews to see the difference in camera quality between oppo and OP, although I think it will be similar for the main and ultra wide and front camera. Long range Zoom however shall be better in the oppo due to periscope 5x optical, but 2-3x will be better on the OP due to native 2-3x optical.
I agree, they should have given a periscope 5x or some useful camera/lens instead of that 5mp colour filter camera! I don't know how useful the TOF sensor is on other flagships, nevertheless it would have made more sense than the color filter imo.

Does OnePlus 8 and 8 pro have NAVIC support ?

Question is the OnePlus 9pro still Worth getting

im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice

If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.

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If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro

As with most other devices, A12 roms are unlikely to be available until after the OOS 12 ROM is released (GA, not Beta).
There are lots of good A11 ROMs out there, and the phone itself (LE2125) is excellent. The stock OOS 11 is also very very good.
But hey, doesn't affect me one way or another what phone/ROM you use. I'm very happy with what I have!
Cheers

JesusOmarMJ23 said:
If you want it to install roms forget it, the developers have it very abandoned. For example, no developer has compiled a beta version for Android 12, But if you want to use it normally, I really recommend the 9 more because the 9 Pro with the Rom stock the battery is ****.
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A12 OOS official isn't out yet and most devs actually prefer to use finished sources before releasing anything to public. I'm sure some are building ROM's off the beta builds for testing but not releasing them. Also, only some people seem to have issues with the battery, heat, etc. I (and others) have no such issues with our 9pros even on stock OOS. I would suggest the phone to anyone honestly.

COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...

Wait for what ? OnePlus 10 ?
OnePlus 8 pro Oxygen OS too will get worse because of google BS.
About roms look in Development section.

COCODRILO45 said:
im thinking about buying the 9 pro but at has been out for a while should i just wait or should i pull the trigger need some advice
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Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.

The answer for you will depend on your priorities ;-)
I needed a phone recently and found an open box 9 Pro on ebay within my budget. I wouldn't have bought this phone at msrp. My experience has overall been positive. The only time I've overheated the phone was transferring about 80 GB from my old phone before realizing both were on a heat soaked surface. Putting the phone where it could breathe resolved this. Even with extended gaming sessions, the phone has run cool since. Battery life more than meets my daily needs. PD support is ideal as that's what my pc uses at work, so I don't worry about carrying a charger. A 10 min top up at 45W from PD or 65W from the stock charger is a game changer. Going from 20-90% in ~12 mins on the included charger while making coffee & breakfast is great!
Note on battery life: I tend to power off my device for a few mins a couple times each month for consistency. Especially after the primary Google Assistant app updates (this one).
I'm a photography enthusiast and have been generally happy with the 9 Pro IQ. If you do end up getting this phone or the OP9, take some time to review the different options (like Photo, Pro, Portrait) and settings - they are extensive and can be fine tuned for your use case. Be sure to take some test shots to dial this in.
The biggest shortcoming is the selfie cam, which has low dynamic range, easily washing out. I installed gcam MGC by BSG (currently v8.1.101) and it takes much better selfie shots. For the rear facing sensors, the stock camera app vs. gcam HDR+ generally show parity.
My partner has a Pixel 5 so using her phone for selfies is also an option. I prefer the FOV on the OP tho.
The screen is gorgeous! I tried 60 hz vs 120 hz with lpto and noted little effect on battery life, so have remained on the latter. I've found FHD+ meets my needs as the screen size shows little benefit bumping up to QHD+. I appreciate the stock Screen Calibration options and find Advanced > AMOLED Wide Gamut gives the color palette I prefer.
Two things requiring workarounds for my use:
a) My previous phone had a notification light, which I used more than I realized. Rather than turn the screen on periodically, I enabled the Always on Display during my waking hours, problem solved.
b) Historically I've traveled internationally for work, so having dual sims has been a must. It looks like there is work from XDA devs underway to enable this if OP doesn't themselves. Otherwise my partner has an old mobile hotspot from her job I'll commandeer when/if work travel resumes.
Reviews that helped me make an informed decision:
o XDA Devs : of course!
o Notebookcheck
https://www.notebookcheck.net/OnePl...end-phone-charges-twice-as-fast.530399.0.html
o GSM Arena review and comparison to other phones
https://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_9_pro-10806.php
o Photography Blog
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/oneplus_9_pro_review
o Danny Winget Youtube firmware comparison
Hope this helps!

In a lot of ways, the OnePlus 9 Pro is a great phone, with a super-smooth screen, the fastest wired and wireless charging, pleasant software, with a solid long-term update commitment. I even enjoy the camera.

aman2125 said:
Been using the device for over 3 months and can confidently say that nothing makes the device worth the price. The phone heats up with general use. Battery life is pretty ordinary. Not much into camera, screen and performance are the only saving grace.
If I was into ROMs, I would buy a device with the best price to specs ratio like mi 11 series or ROG 5 or even the standard 9 and upcoming 9RT. But avoid the 9 pro at all cost.
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Horrible advice

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Horrible advice
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In hindsight; you may be right.
But, still, thermal issues are for sure my biggest gripe.
Besides, yeah, I do feel it is a good device, but getting it over Oneplus 9 or 9RT would depend on the user's preferences.

If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.

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DON'T...
Go for pixel 6pro...
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Is it available for sale?

vangry2020 said:
If your into rooting and modding, warp charging then yes. If you don't root then get a Pixel 6 Pro.
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It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose

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It's better to wait for Pixel 6 and see what it brings and see real time performance and then choose
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Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.

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Performance will be close at worst but when it comes to software and features and picture quality the Pixel 6 is on a whole different level. That's just my opinion.
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Nobody really knows yet. Since Pixel 6 series is using a new in-house cpu (Tensor) and there are no reviews out yet (product ships on 10/28) so no one really knows what it's going to really perform like. I also would be curious if/how easy it will be to root or unlock bootloader since it's a totally different CPU architecture.

I came from a OnePlus 3T. Overall I think this phone is great, the camera and functionality is slick. I also appreciate that having the phone on max performance levels, screen brightness and sync enabled will impact the battery.
I like that it has an active community here, and on the OnePlus forums. I've logged a few bugs and evidenced how to recreate them. Am I unhappy about the companies communication style, not being open about throttling etc, yes. However I understand that people are human and make mistakes. It's still a young device released 6 months ago. Let's see where we are in a year from now

COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Funny enough, I was thinking recently if I should get the 8 pro as well. Specifically for rooting/custom ROMs. I'm currently using a OP6T (rooted with CrDroid ROM), I can literally get the 8 Pro for free with a screen protector + case and some cash left from my £500 Amazon giftcard. But I just don't know if I should get a 8 pro or not and I can't justify the purchase tbh

COCODRILO45 said:
yea im big on roms i might wait for a good deal on a one plus 8pro
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Be careful. I am not able to send text msgs randomly I am on Sprint/T-Mobile and nothing works. It's why I'm trying to get the 9 pro.