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HTC One X will not turn on or charge

Somehow my HTC One X (tegra 3) phone must have bricked itself overnight. It will not turn on and when I connect the charger lead the light does not come on.
Since the phone is still under warranty I take it to Phones 4u, the guy there reckons that it is a battery fault (which makes sense to me, given the circumstances). Anyway that was all last week, today I get a phone call from P4U saying that it's going to cost me £125 to repair it because it is not under warranty. They are claiming that the phone has been opened before and the VOID sticker is damaged as is a load of the shielding tape inside the phone. This came as quite a shock to me since I bought the phone "new" from them last year and it has never been opened in the time that I have had it.
My theory is that the phone has a fault that is going to cost a lot to repair so Phones4U (Would it have been sent to HTC?) have either claimed that the phone has been damaged or they have damaged it so they can thieve some money from me.
Anyway, back to the point, has anyone else had this issue if so does anyone know how to resolve it (or if that's feasible)?

hydo1 said:
Somehow my HTC One X (tegra 3) phone must have bricked itself overnight. It will not turn on and when I connect the charger lead the light does not come on.
Since the phone is still under warranty I take it to Phones 4u, the guy there reckons that it is a battery fault (which makes sense to me, given the circumstances). Anyway that was all last week, today I get a phone call from P4U saying that it's going to cost me £125 to repair it because it is not under warranty. They are claiming that the phone has been opened before and the VOID sticker is damaged as is a load of the shielding tape inside the phone. This came as quite a shock to me since I bought the phone "new" from them last year and it has never been opened in the time that I have had it.
My theory is that the phone has a fault that is going to cost a lot to repair so Phones4U (Would it have been sent to HTC?) have either claimed that the phone has been damaged or they have damaged it so they can thieve some money from me.
Anyway, back to the point, has anyone else had this issue if so does anyone know how to resolve it (or if that's feasible)?
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I'm on the same boat
Mine was off and i put it to charge and noticed that it wasnt charging. no light! it reboots. I'm on 5% charge
nothing on ADB/fastboot.

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ATTENTION! HERE IS SOLUTION! MIGHT WORK FOR! IT WORKS FOR ME!
hi there! first of all i want to apologize as my english is not perfect.
now the story, i have this problem for 3 months now. nothing helps to permanently fix this. it started one day, my battery runned out while i was surfing internet, phone switched off as it does normally. i did put in on charger (original) but no charging light came on, i checked it after few hours but no light where there, phone was dead! i didnt worry to much and just left it there over night to charge, but in the morning i found that red light is still not on, not charged and completely dead. i did every method metioned on any forum- holding buttons, pulling sim out combination nothing helped!!!! my HOX is rooted with custom rom and latest HBOOT version. i were so dissapointed that my warranty is void. then i decided to take phone apart, take battery out and measure its voltage with multimeter, so i did that and battery was 3.18v. so i cut USB lead and charged battery up to around 3.8v that was wery tricky to do as HOX's battery have odd connector, after that i did put every thing together and phone turned ON, i did charge it normally to 100% which measures 4.2v in APP. calibrated battery by deleting batterystats.bin file. next day battery went flat, and exactly same thing happened again. it must be something wrong happening when phone swithing off by it self, it does not switching off completely that causing it not reacting to butttons. SO i think if i put in freezer for 10-15min it will kill the battery and cut power to phones PCB (eq = battery pull) because any button combo is not = battery pool. so i wrapped it in cling film to prevent condinsation and kept phone in freezer for 15min. do not attack me with commets like "cold temp killing LI-ion battery for ever" i dont care i dont want to hear any of these stuff i did what knowing that, cuz there is no real solution to this problem! it is sounds like crazy! i know! im am russian so im used to do crazy stuff ) after i took it from freezer my HOX felt like ice.. hooked up charger and WOALIA!!! red light started to blink = battery to low to swith on. after half an hour red light came on persistant and my phone swithed ON without problems. after few weeks i replaced battery with other one but no joy! still same thing, i used to do this for months because sometimes i wasnt able monitor battery and turn phone off manually before it reaches 1% charge. I did not experienced any battery life shortening (at least i didnt spot any serious life drops) I SUSPECT THIS IS SOFTWARE RELATED PROBLEM, SO PLEASE IF ANY DEVELOPER OR ANY ONE WHO IS KNOWS WHAT EXACTLY CAN CAUSE THIS, PLEASE LOOK AT THIS CASE. IT MIGHT BE A SOLUTION OTHER THAN MINE!! cuz in the end it sux putting ur phone to freezer
NOW - solution! kind off..
when u did my methot if it worked for you of coure.. you need APP from Playstore - LLAMA location profiles. in LLAMA app you can create action based on event. se lets make event BATTERY under x% and create action for that - POWER OFF PHONE! set delay for 2min so u can stop ongoing event once u on charger and ur battery is less set %. I did set it for 5% and 2 min delay just to be on safe side. once battery reaches 5% charge action is created after 2 min, and phone turns off. dont try to power it ON!!! if u did by accident, just turn it off once it booted! dont ask me for help using LLAMA it is not complicated as it looks, play aroud with charged battery, experiment. u can add additional actions like play sound + screen on+ vibrate+ power off. if that helped u press thanks button as this text took me whole hour to type
AND PLEASE SOMEONE SORT THIS! AS HTC ONE X' PCB NEED TO BE CUT FROM POWER TO RESET AND START CHARGING. I DO THAT BY DEPLEATING BATTERY CHARGE WHRE PCB CUTS OFF POWER. SUB-ZERO TEMP DOES THAT TO BATTERY, BUT WE NEED REAL SOLUTION!!
thank you if read this til end

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ATTENTION! HERE IS SOLUTION! MIGHT WORK FOR! IT WORKS FOR ME!
hi there! first of all i want to apologize as my english is not perfect.
now the story, i have this problem for 3 months now. nothing helps to permanently fix this. it started one day, my battery runned out while i was surfing internet, phone switched off as it does normally. i did put in on charger (original) but no charging light came on, i checked it after few hours but no light where there, phone was dead! i didnt worry to much and just left it there over night to charge, but in the morning i found that ...........
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I am pleased that I haven't had to do this! I argued with Phones4U a little more and they have agreed to replace the device, I think that the repair job was far too expensive for them to justify doing it. Hopefully will have a shiny new One X (or One X+ if they have no stock) by the end of today!

hydo1 said:
I am pleased that I haven't had to do this! I argued with Phones4U a little more and they have agreed to replace the device, I think that the repair job was far too expensive for them to justify doing it. Hopefully will have a shiny new One X (or One X+ if they have no stock) by the end of today!
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Haha ended up with a Galaxy Note 2
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[Q] No power, no charging LED, no Fastboot

Howdy, guys.
I've got my One rooted, unlocked, and was running a CM10.2 nightly build. Everything was working fine until yesterday, when my battery started to rapidly discharge. I woke up with 100% battery, and after about 15 minutes of playing music it was down to 30%. I recharged it and started noticing rapid battery loss, about 10% per 15 minutes when the phone was idle.
Worried that this had to do with my ROM, I flashed the Eclipse Google Play Edition v1.2 ROM. However, the drain issue continued. I decided to let the phone fully discharge, then try powering it up again.
When it was fully discharged, I tried plugging in the phone. No LED came on and I couldn't turn the phone on. I've let it sit for over 2 hours now with the same result.
Some posts with similar symptoms have mentioned plugging the phone into a Windows PC and experiencing the "USB device plugged in" sound alert. I am not having any such luck, and what I currently have is a very aesthetically pleasing paperweight with no function whatsoever.
Has anyone else experienced a similar issue, or found a fix?

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I would take that back to Verizon were i you, sounds like a bad battery to me, chances are remote that it's the phone/hardware/software. they have to repair it despite the fact it's rooted, they probably wont even notice lol
Were it me, back to verizon we go

Last Sunday, listening to music with HTC One (bought on Sep 11) on the charger, it suddenly went dark. Would not reboot, no charge light either. Went to a VZW store, they're shipping me a warranty replacement.
I wonder whether my habit of leaving it charger-connected whenever it's sitting on my desk (i.e., way beyond the fully-charged point) somehow stressed the battery (or the charging circuitry) -- though that habit never impacted my two previous HTC models.

When you hold Vol+Down and Power do your home and back arrows blink? If so, point the phone sensors (the two on the front on the left hand side) into a bright light. Then hold down Vol+Down and Power. It should boot. I'm not sure why. But it worked for me today after installing a custom recovery. -shrugs-

musicman625 said:
I would take that back to Verizon were i you, sounds like a bad battery to me, chances are remote that it's the phone/hardware/software. they have to repair it despite the fact it's rooted, they probably wont even notice lol
Were it me, back to verizon we go
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I've got a replacement being shipped to me, and I'll send them the old one when it comes in. Currently using an old Samsung Stratosphere as a replacement, I was just hoping there'd be an easier fix or something simple. Thanks, though!

HTC One X - Dead, no LED, no fastboot, nothing!

My friend gave me his HTC One X to fix (PJ46100) and he said it has been dead for months. After a few diagnostics, and about 30 mins on charge and 10 mins in my PC, it isn't connecting to the PC, I have no word from ADB, the phone itself has no LED light showing, no vibrations, nothing. My aim here is to get it on at LEAST in fastboot/recovery mode. I have never used a HTC One X but being addicted to my 4.3 Desire, I know how the usual HTC fastboot works. I know its power + volume down but is there any other way? I remember my Desire was Power + back button, EVEN though everyone online said it was Power + vol down.... Does the One X have another method?
My mate wants me to get his photos off it, and thats it, its mine
So yeah, any word on what it could be?
Doing loads of research, its a 70% chance of being a battery issue and a 30% chance of the board being dead.
I am not afraid of taking this baby apart so go ahead and ask your questions.
Thanks guys.
(BTW - I may be posting from another account in my replies....)

Hi there, I also have the same problem as yours. No led when charging, not detected by pc, its basically a paperweight. I also had done my research and I can conclude mine is a board issue since the problem occurred after transferring some files from pc and the battery is perfectly fine then. If you believe battery is the culprit, try put the phone in a sealed bag and put it in the freezer. It might bring the battery alive. I have took mine apart and I noticed that during charging, the board will be warm and same goes to the battery. This would suggest the phone is taking the current from the charger.

same problem here

I've revived dead phones where the only issue was that the battery had lost so much charge that it wouldn't charge via the phone's charging circuit e.g. Desire S and One V. Removing the battery and charging directly using another device solved it both times. Got to be worth a go. There's guides on removing/replacing the HOX battery on XDA. Just gotta go carefully!

Exa_Bytez said:
Hi there, I also have the same problem as yours. No led when charging, not detected by pc, its basically a paperweight.... I have took mine apart and I noticed that during charging, the board will be warm and same goes to the battery. This would suggest the phone is taking the current from the charger.
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Hi there dude.
I just replaced the battery, and yeah. Even without the charger, the board went warm for about 45 seconds. Charging does nothing, even with the new battery.
So I am guessing its the board.
Ouch.
This isn't even mine. My mate had this collecting dust since it broke about a year ago and he asked me to see if i fixed it.
His dad wanted some pictures off it, so I guess they are out of the picture (pun not intended, but eh.)
Anyway, do I buy ANY board or is there a special board for this model number?
eBay brings a few up when searching "HTC One X".
Cheers guys for the replies

I had tried charging the battery using the external charger and after connecting it to the board, it became warm and after few hours, it subside. I checked the battery and the voltage is 3v, the minimum discharge voltage. So i can say that the board suck the power and change it solely to heat. Is your htc one x tegra or snapdragon version?

HTC One M8 Battery Suddenly Dies, Randomly Shuts Off

Hello,
I bought a used T-Mobile HTC One M8 a couple of days ago off of eBay. While it's a cool phone, I've had a serious issue with the battery. When plugged in, the phone works fine. However, after being charged for several hours and removed from a power source, the battery will read 100%, slowly dying to around 96% or so with use, and then shut off randomly without warning only a few minutes after being taken off the charger. It won't give the normal "shutting down" message; instead, the battery will go from whatever percent it was to 0% and then the screen will go black.
From what I've seen online, the battery might be bad. s suggest that this problem results in an inflated battery. In this M8, I noticed that the left edge of the screen was almost separated from the metal bezel as if something was pushing it up from behind. This makes me think my battery might be bloated, causing the battery issue and pushing up the screen.
I have tried wiping the phone before flashing Lineage OS instead of the stock ROM, fully charging the battery up, and fully discharging the battery, but nothing so far has worked. Do you have any tricks I could try that might fix this if it is a software issue? Or does this seem like a bad battery that would have to be replaced?
If the battery is bad, the M8 doesn't make it easily removable, so I would either have to take the phone apart or send it in and possibly pay someone to replace it. The previous owner said it was working fine, but I have yet to hear his reply to my eBay message asking about the issue. He included all of the original packaging, including the original limited warranty. While the warranty is probably long expired and technically doesn't transfer over reselling a phone, do you think there is any chance that HTC or T-Mobile might be willing to fix the phone or send a different one?
Thank you for any help you can provide.

mtdewdgmm said:
Hello,
I bought a used T-Mobile HTC One M8 a couple of days ago off of eBay. While it's a cool phone, I've had a serious issue with the battery. When plugged in, the phone works fine. However, after being charged for several hours and removed from a power source, the battery will read 100%, slowly dying to around 96% or so with use, and then shut off randomly without warning only a few minutes after being taken off the charger. It won't give the normal "shutting down" message; instead, the battery will go from whatever percent it was to 0% and then the screen will go black.
From what I've seen online, the battery might be bad. s suggest that this problem results in an inflated battery. In this M8, I noticed that the left edge of the screen was almost separated from the metal bezel as if something was pushing it up from behind. This makes me think my battery might be bloated, causing the battery issue and pushing up the screen.
I have tried wiping the phone before flashing Lineage OS instead of the stock ROM, fully charging the battery up, and fully discharging the battery, but nothing so far has worked. Do you have any tricks I could try that might fix this if it is a software issue? Or does this seem like a bad battery that would have to be replaced?
If the battery is bad, the M8 doesn't make it easily removable, so I would either have to take the phone apart or send it in and possibly pay someone to replace it. The previous owner said it was working fine, but I have yet to hear his reply to my eBay message asking about the issue. He included all of the original packaging, including the original limited warranty. While the warranty is probably long expired and technically doesn't transfer over reselling a phone, do you think there is any chance that HTC or T-Mobile might be willing to fix the phone or send a different one?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
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Flash t mobile RUU (software problems will slove with this ) . If the issue still there ,then it must be a hardware issue i.e faulty battery or some other.
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The battery in my M8 is really weak now, and as of maybe 6-9 months ago the phone is not tracking the battery level well. When the phone is idle, it powers off at 20-30% indicated charge remaining, with games active, maybe it will power off at 45%. I get 1 hour PoGo from a _full_ charge.
Previously, I've experienced the phone getting hot when charging (mainly in the car) and this has probably had a serious impact on the battery capacity. Assuming the phone you have is over a year old, you should assume the battery is badly aged by now.

my adorable M8 in his third year of use recently has the same symptoms of @tshoulihane. Is necessary to say that I've took so much care in his first 2 years like disconnecting the battery after few minutes of reaching the 100% (also voiding to charge all the night) or turning off the phone at 10% and I never be waited for the auto turn off at 0%. All this that I'm telling you is in the first 2 years. In this third year of using the m8 as my main phone, I received this bad symptoms doing the opposite of the first years of care. Now I just connect powerbank or something at 30% to void awkwards sudden death of battery. Mmm I have plans to keep 1 year more my m8 with me, it still a beast in camera, sound and no lag, so I'm looking for a battery replacement im Amazon but the reviews are bad, I think is very difficult to get a good *new* battery because that replacements get old too with the years of storage... mmm I don't know but this was my little story with my battery experience with M8. Regards guys.

HTC 10 while completely shut down lost 35% battery level in 1 day

While waiting for a replacement SIM card for my HTC 10, I had fully charged it then powered it off. The next day, I wanted to check something on the phone, so I powered it up. The battery level wasn't 100% or in the 90's... it was a shocking 65%.
I've owned 4 different Android cellphones prior to this one. None of them ever exhibited this kind of power drop while shut down. Most lose just a couple of percentage points when in standby. Clearly something is wrong with this phone...
Does anyone know if there's any kind of parasitic drain on the battery of the HTC 10 even while completely off? It's running Oreo. Either this, or the battery is somehow worn out enough that it can't even hold a charge when sitting idle. Any ideas?

Hi, maybe your battery is not so healthy anymore.
Still you can try this:
''Power off phone.
Plug phone into HTC charger and charge for two minutes or more
While charging, hold down volume up+volume down+power button and continue holding
Phone will turn on and off repeatedly every 15 seconds or so while continuing to hold all three buttons
Keep this going for 2 minutes, then release buttons when phone is ON
Now, let phone charge fully normally (with phone either on or off--doesn't matter) and battery level reporting, charging and battery life should be normalized.''
Supposedly it's the recommended procedure by HTC.

^ Yes, I'm very familiar with that procedure and had done it several times. And then was fully charged after that. And by the way, I said 1 day but it was actually 12 hours later, which is even worse!
I conducted another experiment... with the phone battery level at 77%, I first put it in Airplane mode and then shut it down completely. Well, about 18 hours later, guess what? Battery level showed 76% upon boot up! Remarkable. If the phone is SHUT DOWN, I can't understand how there would be any possible parasitic drain difference between normal mode and airplane mode. There should be NOTHING running. Or, instead of parasitic, this may just be happenstance of what cells inside the battery itself were taxed. I'll have to try this again from 100% charge, just to be sure.

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cytherian said:
^ Yes, I'm very familiar with that procedure and had done it several times. And then was fully charged after that. And by the way, I said 1 day but it was actually 12 hours later, which is even worse!
I conducted another experiment... with the phone battery level at 77%, I first put it in Airplane mode and then shut it down completely. Well, about 18 hours later, guess what? Battery level showed 76% upon boot up! Remarkable. If the phone is SHUT DOWN, I can't understand how there would be any possible parasitic drain difference between normal mode and airplane mode. There should be NOTHING running. Or, instead of parasitic, this may just be happenstance of what cells inside the battery itself were taxed. I'll have to try this again from 100% charge, just to be sure.
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I have what may be a similar problem , I charge phone to 100% let it sit , it drops to 43% when I pick it up it reboot and continues to reboot, boot recovery now it shows 1%, plugin phone boot up and it shows 43%.

pbazw said:
I have what may be a similar problem , I charge phone to 100% let it sit , it drops to 43% when I pick it up it reboot and continues to reboot, boot recovery now it shows 1%, plugin phone boot up and it shows 43%.
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I think that when you charge it to 100%, it's not really 100%. The phone may be displaying that figure, but the battery isn't fully charged. And if your battery has suffered deep discharge a number of times, it could have a very diminished mAh capacity at this point. This is why the phone continues to reboot. The operating system starts and it thinks there's enough power to start up, but the battery is actually down to 1%, so the battery protection circuitry kicks in and forces a shut down. The operating system doesn't register this as a normal shutdown, so it goes into reboot mode. And thus, pattern keeps repeating until you plug in the phone to a power source.

Well, I did another test. I charged the phone up to 100%, put it in airplane mode, and then shut it down. A little over 12 hours later, I turned it on and battery level showed 98%. That was curious. Did airplane mode really make a difference? Didn't make sense... until I decided to reboot the phone, just to be sure. And guess what it showed after that? 61%. So my theory was right -- there is no parasitic drain really. It's the battery having some kind of problem. I rebooted again... 59%. Rebooted again 59%. Then I held down all 3 buttons for 5 cycles and rebooted. 59%. So that is actual.
When I charged up the phone, I had done the 3 button hold-down a couple of times and recharged until rebooting stayed in the upper 90 percent. So, the phone most definitely should have been fully charged. This battery is damaged... and given what I learned from the previous owner, who simply never let it drop down below 50% (always recharged when between 50~60%), and pristine external condition, this is just a prime example of the substandard battery and/or battery management firmware.

cytherian said:
Well, I did another test. I charged the phone up to 100%, put it in airplane mode, and then shut it down. A little over 12 hours later, I turned it on and battery level showed 98%. That was curious. Did airplane mode really make a difference? Didn't make sense... until I decided to reboot the phone, just to be sure. And guess what it showed after that? 61%. So my theory was right -- there is no parasitic drain really. It's the battery having some kind of problem. I rebooted again... 59%. Rebooted again 59%. Then I held down all 3 buttons for 5 cycles and rebooted. 59%. So that is actual.
When I charged up the phone, I had done the 3 button hold-down a couple of times and recharged until rebooting stayed in the upper 90 percent. So, the phone most definitely should have been fully charged. This battery is damaged... and given what I learned from the previous owner, who simply never let it drop down below 50% (always recharged when between 50~60%), and pristine external condition, this is just a prime example of the substandard battery and/or battery management firmware.
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I experienced something like that last week, where I left it in airplane mode for like 8 hours. I went out did things, came back later and it was litterly being reported at the same thing. Like 68%. It was really weird. Then I had started using the device for like an hour. And it only dropped like 1 or 2%. It was the exact opposite of what we are used to seeing. I was doing youtube, playing a game. Not normal. Then finally the drainage started up again.
Today the device dropped pretty quick to around 35% so I plugged it in to charge. Came back like 15 minutes later and it was reported around 69%. I thought that was way too quick for 15 minutes. Granted it was a quick charge 2 charger, but still, I've never seen that quick of a charge on the 10 or my V20.
I'm really at a loss what to think as far as calibration, what the battery is telling us. I'm thinking of unlocking, throwing on Leedroid and Elemental kernel. I just don't have the time to go through all that yet. Glad I have my backup phones.
My 10 is also like yours in pristine condition. Granted I didn't ask how the seller how tye used the battery before me, but I also never researched problems with the 10 before buying. I was under the assumption since I've been an HTC customer from the M7 and M8, that the 10 would also have a good battery. Same or maybe better than my V20. Especially since they both use the 820 chipset. I guess I'm paying for my ignorance now.

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My 10 is also like yours in pristine condition. Granted I didn't ask how the seller how tye used the battery before me, but I also never researched problems with the 10 before buying. I was under the assumption since I've been an HTC customer from the M7 and M8, that the 10 would also have a good battery. Same or maybe better than my V20. Especially since they both use the 820 chipset. I guess I'm paying for my ignorance now.
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Same as you... great value from HTC phones up until the HTC 10 (having skipped the M9).
I'm in a pre-return mode right now with the seller. She has given me the OK to do a return. But I'm going to see if she might welcome the opportunity to do a partial refund. Because if she takes back the phone I don't know if she's going to try reselling it or give it to a family member to deal with. It's a hassle selling a phone that has problems. My thought is, if I can work out a good price (like half the cost of a typical charge--got two quotes for $140 and $150), I'll go ahead and try to do the battery change myself. But then... I'm a little unsure about jumping down that rabbit hole. It may work fine, but I usually keep a new (to me) phone for at least 2 years. If I'm having battery trouble 12 months from now, I'll be pretty PO'ed at myself. I've already wasted too much time on this debacle.
The other option is going with a Google Pixel. I'm frustrated, because I missed that recent Woot! deal on the Google Pixel that ran a few days ago. They all sold off in less than a day. Refurbished Pixel phones with 32Gb ($200) and 128Gb ($244) sizes. I'd have sprung for the 128Gb. But the Pixel isn't free of issues. There's a dreaded screen burn-in that happens on some models. Unpredictable. And when it does, it's a PITA to replace the screen, almost as bad as the HTC 10.
Lastly... I might just say screw-it and stick with my M8 for the next couple of years, until 5G phones with solid electrolyte lithium batteries are available. Phone companies are starting to do customers a disservice with this "sealed in" battery fiasco. Next thing you know, they'll be revoking the Micro SD memory card slot, like Apple.

cytherian said:
Same as you... great value from HTC phones up until the HTC 10 (having skipped the M9).
I'm in a pre-return mode right now with the seller. She has given me the OK to do a return. But I'm going to see if she might welcome the opportunity to do a partial refund. Because if she takes back the phone I don't know if she's going to try reselling it or give it to a family member to deal with. It's a hassle selling a phone that has problems. My thought is, if I can work out a good price (like half the cost of a typical charge--got two quotes for $140 and $150), I'll go ahead and try to do the battery change myself. But then... I'm a little unsure about jumping down that rabbit hole. It may work fine, but I usually keep a new (to me) phone for at least 2 years. If I'm having battery trouble 12 months from now, I'll be pretty PO'ed at myself. I've already wasted too much time on this debacle.
The other option is going with a Google Pixel. I'm frustrated, because I missed that recent Woot! deal on the Google Pixel that ran a few days ago. They all sold off in less than a day. Refurbished Pixel phones with 32Gb ($200) and 128Gb ($244) sizes. I'd have sprung for the 128Gb. But the Pixel isn't free of issues. There's a dreaded screen burn-in that happens on some models. Unpredictable. And when it does, it's a PITA to replace the screen, almost as bad as the HTC 10.
Lastly... I might just say screw-it and stick with my M8 for the next couple of years, until 5G phones with solid electrolyte lithium batteries are available. Phone companies are starting to do customers a disservice with this "sealed in" battery fiasco. Next thing you know, they'll be revoking the Micro SD memory card slot, like Apple.
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Yeah, I'm thinking to hold on to the device. Thought same that I'd try to sell it, but a hassle. Plus I'm still not convinced its hardware yet. I still kind of feel like its something to do with latest Oreo firmware. Possibly Nougat as well. I'm starting to research downgrading via S-on to Nougat or Marshmallow and just leave it that way if the battery returns somewhat normal. While its a pain to do downgrade, its something I'd consider when I have more time. However, if this was my only device, or main device, then I'd probably cut my losses with it.
Tell you one thing, certainly makes me appreciate the M8 much more than i did!

gustav30 said:
Yeah, I'm thinking to hold on to the device. Thought same that I'd try to sell it, but a hassle. Plus I'm still not convinced its hardware yet. I still kind of feel like its something to do with latest Oreo firmware. Possibly Nougat as well. I'm starting to research downgrading via S-on to Nougat or Marshmallow and just leave it that way if the battery returns somewhat normal. While its a pain to do downgrade, its something I'd consider when I have more time. However, if this was my only device, or main device, then I'd probably cut my losses with it.
Tell you one thing, certainly makes me appreciate the M8 much more than i did!
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Marshmallow has been a decent version of the Android O/S. You can really spruce it up nicely with different themes. I recently revised the theme on my M8 and it's super. It's just a very dependable phone. And when you get used to that, it's a shock to run into the mess of other phones. Pretty stunned to see all the troubles that the Pixel encountered. Apparently the Pixel-2 has some pretty serious challenges as well, like screen burn-in. I'd never even thought of rolling an HTC 10 back to Marshmallow. Is that really possible? It may not be necessary... as it could all come down to the kernel Go S-OFF and load up a replacement like ElementalX.
So I did a complete factory reset on the phone as I prepped it for returning to the seller. What a pain in the butt... having to wait for the initialization. Took over an hour to complete. Anyway, I made the mistake after initialization and before configuring an account to do the 3-button power cycle. Apparently that wipes all preparation cache, so it had to go through it yet again. After that, I did the cycling 3 times from 99% and it dropped only 1% each time. Baffling. I rebooted several times after that, expecting to see a repeat of that 35~40% drop. Stayed in the high 90's. So with that mystical "recovery" I ran the HTC battery test... and it did just as poorly as before. Definitely something out of whack between the O/S and battery.
I really wish there was a definitive explanation for this. If battery replacement was guaranteed to eliminate it, then I'd feel more comfortable going with a battery change. Would just hate to get burned 12 months later, finding the same issue repeat.

cytherian said:
I'd never even thought of rolling an HTC 10 back to Marshmallow. Is that really possible? It may not be necessary... as it could all come down to the kernel. Go S-OFF and load up ElementalX.
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You can, also flash a kernel..... WITHOUT being s-off, s-off has never been needed to change kernel. Please elaborate and stop giving false info.
Thank you.

cytherian said:
Marshmallow has been a decent version of the Android O/S. You can really spruce it up nicely with different themes. I recently revised the theme on my M8 and it's super. It's just a very dependable phone. And when you get used to that, it's a shock to run into the mess of other phones. Pretty stunned to see all the troubles that the Pixel encountered. Apparently the Pixel-2 has some pretty serious challenges as well, like screen burn-in. I'd never even thought of rolling an HTC 10 back to Marshmallow. Is that really possible? It may not be necessary... as it could all come down to the kernel. Go S-OFF and load up ElementalX.
So I did a complete factory reset on the phone as I prepped it for returning to the seller. What a pain in the butt... having to wait for the initialization. Took over an hour to complete. Anyway, I made the mistake after initialization and before configuring an account to do the 3-button power cycle. Apparently that wipes all preparation cache, so it had to go through it yet again. After that, I did the cycling 3 times from 99% and it dropped only 1% each time. Baffling. I rebooted several times after that, expecting to see a repeat of that 35~40% drop. Stayed in the high 90's. So with that mystical "recovery" I ran the HTC battery test... and it did just as poorly as before. Definitely something out of whack between the O/S and battery.
I really wish there was a definitive explanation for this. If battery replacement was guaranteed to eliminate it, then I'd feel more comfortable going with a battery change. Would just hate to get burned 12 months later, finding the same issue repeat.
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Looks like you can downgrade to Nougat or Marshmallow based on this thread here. Can do it remaining S-On.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/how-to-rollback-oreo-to-marshmallow-s-t3787101
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Mr Hofs said:
You can, also flash a kernel..... WITHOUT being s-off, s-off has never been needed to change kernel. Please elaborate and stop giving false info.
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It wasn't my intention to give false info. I had the impression from what I'd read that making changes at that level required it. But you've obviously got a tremendous amount of experience so I'll revise my understanding. Thank you.