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I am about to pull the trigger on a Verizon Note 4 and have few Q's
What crapware does Verizon install over and above what Samsung has installed on top of Android?
I understand you can either disable it or hide it, correct?
If you disable the crapware, does it still run in the background?
If you hide the crapware, does it still run in the background?
Thanks for any insight.
Bob
If disabled it does not run in the background.....it also hides itself from the app drawer
what about app store updates
maclv said:
If disabled it does not run in the background.....it also hides itself from the app drawer
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So what about app updates from the Google App store? Do the apps still update even when disabled/hidden?
[email protected] said:
So what about app updates from the Google App store? Do the apps still update even when disabled/hidden?
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Thanks for asking this, OP. I was wondering the same thing. I used to flash a lot of ROMs, but haven't been as flash happy on my S3. For me, root is most useful for:
1. Removing crapware from Verizon/Samsung.
2. Avoiding updates that break things.
I guess that this takes care of the first item on my list.
I hear ya'
usmaak said:
Thanks for asking this, OP. I was wondering the same thing. I used to flash a lot of ROMs, but haven't been as flash happy on my S3. For me, root is most useful for:
1. Removing crapware from Verizon/Samsung.
2. Avoiding updates that break things.
I guess that this takes care of the first item on my list.
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Yeah, I've been reading a lot on the xda forums about the root issue for the Verizon Note 4.
I'd like to have root too but it might be extra tough on the Verizon Note 4. I'm actually not counting on it (unfortunately).
My fingers are crossed though! I'm hoping some Linux guru can take advantage of some 3.10 kernel exploit so we can have (real) control of our own hardware.
[email protected] said:
Yeah, I've been reading a lot on the xda forums about the root issue for the Verizon Note 4.
I'd like to have root too but it might be extra tough on the Verizon Note 4. I'm actually not counting on it (unfortunately).
My fingers are crossed though! I'm hoping some Linux guru can take advantage of some 3.10 kernel exploit so we can have (real) control of our own hardware.
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Head over to the bounty thread if you haven't already. [emoji3]
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
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So the Note 4 is actually my first device I've owned where I didn't have an unlocked bootloader. Because of this, I'm not sure whether all the modifications I've made to my past devices were enabled because I had an unlocked bootloader.
The only thing I know we can't do is install custom roms.
So... that leaves me with a question. What kinds of things can we do with just root?
On top of that, I have some specific questions (Might think of more later) :
Will root let us be able to install the auto-brightness control that the international version of the Note 4 has? If you don't know, you're able to adjust how low or high the auto brightness stages will go without turning off auto brightness on that version. It's so much nicer than having to turn off auto, adjust to where you want, and then remember to turn auto back on when you leave that environment.
Can we remap the capacitive multitask button to be a menu button instead? And to remap long-pressing that button to be the new multitask?
Thanks!
There's safe strap which allows us to have custom roms.
droidx2.3.3 said:
There's safe strap which allows us to have custom roms.
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did they get a safestrap to work?
I'm assuming that they will. I suppose I should have worded my post different.
So it should have said, if we get safe strap we will be able to have custom roms.
It's not quiet the same as a unlocked bootloader though.
We have root?
what proof?
Well regardless of whether we have custom roms through some other means, I'd personally most interested in those 2 questions I stated. That's honestly the things I want most with root at the moment.
Where is root?
Root has not been proven yet. Patience. Everyone is jumping the gun here.
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
Hobox10 said:
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
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My main and only real reason for wanting root is for Ad Block ESPECIALLY in youtube. I hate those commercials... You can install Ad Block without root (as I just did) but it just doesn't seem to work as well as it did with my last rooted device... Although I'm not sure if this is the app devs getting more creative with how they get ads through or possibly even a Lollipop things...
The other main reason was so Rocket Player could delete podcasts I had already listened too.. That was resolved with the Lollipop update so I am good to go there...
Some really like Root for Titanium backup to back up ALL app data and settings... This was handy for me back when I was flashing ROMS all the time but without that capability I don't see myself having much of a need for that since the games I play store the data in the Android folder which I don't need root to copy/backup
Another great thing that has come about the last year or so is Xposed modules.. These give you just about ANY customization you could possibly want but of course in order to use them you will also need root..... There is a great app that pulls the commercials from Youtube which I will be checking out if Root is actually here... As I said before I hate hate the ads... Not that I don't buy FULL versions of some of the apps if I find them useful because I do... But with things like Chrome and Youtube I really miss the option of them being disabled... Yes I know Firefox has this built in but I like y Chrome for the ability to send pages from my PC to my phone with the click of a button....
I find that the Note 4 with the help of Apex PRO has helped me gain many of the features I once wanted Root and the ability to flash things for... So now I am just looking for the ability to kill some ads....
There are also a few apps I would delete or freeze with Titanium Backup once we had that option... Turning them off is nice but I want the space back...
dr12volt1338 said:
My main and only real reason for wanting root is for Ad Block ESPECIALLY in youtube. I hate those commercials... You can install Ad Block without root (as I just did) but it just doesn't seem to work as well as it did with my last rooted device... Although I'm not sure if this is the app devs getting more creative with how they get ads through or possibly even a Lollipop things...
The other main reason was so Rocket Player could delete podcasts I had already listened too.. That was resolved with the Lollipop update so I am good to go there...
Some really like Root for Titanium backup to back up ALL app data and settings... This was handy for me back when I was flashing ROMS all the time but without that capability I don't see myself having much of a need for that since the games I play store the data in the Android folder which I don't need root to copy/backup
Another great thing that has come about the last year or so is Xposed modules.. These give you just about ANY customization you could possibly want but of course in order to use them you will also need root..... There is a great app that pulls the commercials from Youtube which I will be checking out if Root is actually here... As I said before I hate hate the ads... Not that I don't buy FULL versions of some of the apps if I find them useful because I do... But with things like Chrome and Youtube I really miss the option of them being disabled... Yes I know Firefox has this built in but I like y Chrome for the ability to send pages from my PC to my phone with the click of a button....
I find that the Note 4 with the help of Apex PRO has helped me gain many of the features I once wanted Root and the ability to flash things for... So now I am just looking for the ability to kill some ads....
There are also a few apps I would delete or freeze with Titanium Backup once we had that option... Turning them off is nice but I want the space back...
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I'm with you on the adblock and it's one of the things I've been looking forward too also. The ads mobile gets is ridiculous, I'm fine with them on most websites on the computer but the mobile versions really kill some things.
Xposed is an interesting topic to me, I've never had any experience with it since I've never really needed it. It will be fun to see what they do. Thanks for the info.
root
Do you know if they release their root tool now? If they do, where is it?
52yt said:
Do you know if they release their root tool now? If they do, where is it?
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The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
Sent from my SM-N915V
2swizzle said:
The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
Sent from my SM-N915V
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Good point I forgot about being able to add multi window for non supported apps... It would be really nice for Tapatalk to support it
Ooh multi-window on almost any app sounds awesome!
you can remove pre-loaded carrier apps that cause sluggish instability. improve battery life, and speed up application start times.
Mw-pen app enabler, ive been using since i got this phone. Let's you add apps to multi window. Should work for non system apps. It's worked for me. been my solution until we get root, if we do.
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you can remove pre-loaded carrier apps that cause sluggish instability. improve battery life, and speed up application start times.
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Just an fyi: You can disable bloatware without having root by using @gatesjunior's Debloater utility. Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294
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The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
Sent from my SM-N915V
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Daciple said:
Mw-pen app enabler, ive been using since i got this phone. Let's you add apps to multi window. Should work for non system apps. It's worked for me. been my solution until we get root, if we do.
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I had no idea that existed or was possible without root. Great find!
I've only rooted a Samsung device since the Samsung Tab S 10.5.
Reasons I found why I would root the Samsung Galaxy S8+ SM-G955U:
- Adblocker (I don't mind blocking ads from apps/Samsung but I also don't mind them being there...)
- Removing System apps (I'd probably only remove a few that I found useless/don't mind them being there...)
- Backup/restore (I'd make a backup, but I can also do this without root I believe?)
- Using SmartThings to stream to my Vizio but having a full 65' screen with the proper aspect ratio. Yes this annoying not to see a full screen on a bigger screen that you stream to from your phone, it was new to me and I was happy with it but also hoping for a bigger screen output.
- Easy to overclock/return to normal clock for testing/emulation purposes and not for extended use.
- I don't believe I would do any button remapping on my phone, but I'd do anything that makes my phone look even better and have more effective usage.
- Background settings with color/image by root?
- Lockscreen wallpaper can be changed by root?
- I am guessing that I can turn on my flashlight with a button while the screen is off with root?
- Double tap home to instant sleep phone with root. Isn't there apps in Google Play that do things like this?
- Anything that increases sound and video/picture quality with root.
Reasons why I won't root:
- Samsung loss of apps
- Loss of software updates?
- Re-customize the internal portion of my phone . I don't have to worry about my emulator files on my SD card or my music. I also started using my phone without rooting in mind and excitedly set it up.
- I don't have warranty, I treat my phones rather well even when I rooted my Samsung Tab S 10.5, it is still rooted and solid running. For my tablet the warranty ran out. For this device, I got it refurbished with no warranty.
- UPDATE: I forgot to mention, I'd also have to deal with a fixed Netflix rather than the actual app and its updates.
Sadly I'll loose a number of things by Samsung that I read about. I'll then have to remove those apps and I have been happy with what I have. There are also plenty of risks while it's rooted + bootloader unlocked.
Wonder if my battery would drain more with root depending on all the functions I would want.
I also wonder if I would get anymore software updates.
I read about developer updates that are better and faster than what software updates release.
What do you think about whether or not I should root now? Some of the things I want to do listed above may have apps for that without root as well as I am not annoyed by ads or by extra system apps with 64GB ROM. Anyone believe that some of the things I really want to do comes with an app instead of having to root?
The most useful things would be tap a button to turn on my flashlight when the screen is off, easy to overclock and put back, SmartThings resize on 65' screen, change the customization color/images of my phone further, double tap to sleep, increase sound and video/picture quality, though I like the way my phone sounds.
G955U is a bootloader locked device. There is no way to root it. How are you saying that you can root it?
So I have SM-G955U as well, with version 1 bootloader. Can I root this?
Also I want to use the Verizon bands so is there any recommendation for what I should try to do?
thus far, i have found absolutely no clear instructions on how in the heck to do this.
there is so much noise on this forum about older variations and over seas models.
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G955U is a bootloader locked device. There is no way to root it. How are you saying that you can root it?
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there is one option to root G955U but just for android 7 only
rosel11078 said:
there is one option to root G955U but just for android 7 only
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Correct cause I believe it's the one I'm using. I was 955u and had lots of issues trying to find a proper guide that worked but it wasn't till I paid someone for the service to do It for me that I finally got root. And I think afterwards it changed my phone to g955u1. Also yes been on 7.0 since I got the phone rooted 2 years ago
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G955U is a bootloader locked device. There is no way to root it. How are you saying that you can root it?
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LOL he speaks on that which he knows nothing about
all jokes aside, I am getting tired of having to use Nougat. losing support for a lot of stuff I like. the only thing that keeps me from giving up root is Viper4Android. where else am I supposed to find a sound driver like that?
How many of you guys plan to root? Is it worth losing secure folder etc for easier themeing, magisk modules and better ad blocking?
I do miss swift installer even though synergy works OK
No.
Planning not to but say that every new phone lol
I didn't root my Note 9 (first ever android phone I didn't root), mostly because Adhell3, now that the app doesn't work anymore I don't know if I can manage without root... I guess we'll see...
No
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I've been rooting all my android phones since my first one (galaxy mini) but I stopped rooting after I bought my note 9. Now I only root my backup phones.
Theres just too many good features that I'll miss if I trip my knox.
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i think the question alot should research should be:
can i actually root before buying
I keep a rooted phone for certain things.
I don't root my daily drives now though. I think I burned myself out over the years. I prefer a stable, secure phone now.
HD2, I still love you though. ?
Every new galaxy phones I got didn't last a week without being rooted. It's my first time to buy a phone on its launching period. Most probably wont get rooted in a week or two, or maybe who knows hahaha.. depends on how our great devs would work on it lol
Rooted mine. For me i want to have the freedom of root. Don't care about the apps I loose
Already Rooted My Note 10+. Dr-Ketan Guide
No, I will not root it, samsung pay and secure folders are very useful features for me, I will only miss viper4A, I rooted my phones in the past, but it is not so necessary these days
Nope i use Samsung pay. And dont see much of a reason to root any more
Quick answer no rooting until samsung stop updates
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No, I will not root it, samsung pay and secure folders are very useful features for me, I will only miss viper4A, I rooted my phones in the past, but it is not so necessary these days
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Secure folder works on rooted too. Still it needs some patch. I have posted screenshot of secure folder yday on my root guide thread. Samsung pay won't. Still trying to work spay on gear, it is working on N8/N9 but yet not able to fix on N10. But I am on holidays and no twrp so cant dig much.
Probably later.
Because I'd like to keep the OTA updates.
liamR said:
I didn't root my Note 9 (first ever android phone I didn't root), mostly because Adhell3, now that the app doesn't work anymore I don't know if I can manage without root... I guess we'll see...
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Hey,
I was also a little bit frustrated that Adhell3 didn't work anymore, but I found an alternative that might help you. I am currently using my Note8 with an app called CCSWE App Manager (can be found on the playstore). This app with the coupled with the CCSWE App Manager Pro License (also found on the playstore but paid) app allows to disable packages, it uses KNOX. Not sure if it supports Note10, but works perfectly on my Note8.
I don't care about loosing Knox crap. I will root on day 1 of any device I own. Systemwide add blocking being my #1 reason. Also there is nothing like Titanium backup out there. IMO stock rooted is always great.
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
There is so much that works without root, if I feel the need to, then I might, but until then......:good:
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Secure folder works on rooted too. Still it needs some patch. I have posted screenshot of secure folder yday on my root guide thread. Samsung pay won't. Still trying to work spay on gear, it is working on N8/N9 but yet not able to fix on N10. But I am on holidays and no twrp so cant dig much.
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Thank you Dr. ketan, As always you are the best! I will looking forward to your posts
So before I attempt and break my Zfold4 I was wondering if anyone has tried it yet if so how did it go wand what did it remove?? As well if not do you think it will work on a non rooted Zfold
Have a wonderful day!! and thanks again in advance
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So before I attempt and break my Zfold4 I was wondering if anyone has tried it yet if so how did it go wand what did it remove?? As well if not do you think it will work on a non rooted Zfold
Have a wonderful day!! and thanks again in advance
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Well update I answered my own question it appears it was able to remove 3 Samsung bloat!!
This broke my software update check. I used ADBAppControl to restore the removed app. With no way to restore the apps using Samfw app I would recommend not using it.
Hmm interesting mine keeps wanting to to down load but for now gonna sit on mine firmware sense apparently my firmware isn't anywhere at least not on Sammy or samfw, but yea it removed 3 bloat but I also disabled the Knox with the samfw from tool
Personally I use Package Disabler, not in the Play Store and is a minimum cost. You can disable and re-enable in the fly without a PC. Been using it since my Note 10 with no issues.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
The samFW extra services are very bad and not worthing the prices. A guy I know who used their unlock service for €29 got a chap that could not find the phone had the developer function debug already activated, did not do the job and did not give him the money back. Just simply stolen.
Stray doggy said:
The samFW extra services are very bad and not worthing the prices. I guy I know who used their unlock service for €29 git a chap that could not find the phone had the developer function debug activated, did not do the job and did not give im the noney back. Just simply stolen.
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Debloat has nothing to do with extra services, it's part of FRP tool.
That said, all it does is run a bunch of pm uninstall commands on a list of package names it has. It's much better to tailor your own debloat script per manufacturer to keep/remove things that you care about.