After a RMA, I received a replacement Pixel 2 XL and noticed the speakers sound different. The bottom (right) speaker has more bass whilst the top (left) speaker lacks it. This is noticeable all the time for me. When I cover the speakers with my thumbs to identify the issue more, the top speaker sounds very different for vocals, drums and guitars. I'm not sure if this is normal for this phone as my RMA was for another issue with the top speaker so I am wondering if this is normal. I have read people saying the top speaker is quieter and a few with this issue but I'm wondering if it's an issue that can be resolved through another RMA or if it's normal.
It would help if people with Pixel 2 XL's test their phone speakers to see if they experience what I do. A good left right speaker test is https://youtu.be/hTvJoYnpeRQ and when you rotate your phone, the left and right speakers should flip and the audio saying left should have more bass as the phone flips the channels. It would also be nice if you would check with music to see more clearly.
All in all, should the speakers sound different or should they sound the same?
Thanks.
Wow never noticed that before yes the bottom speaker has more bass but both sound good. Probably an equalizer thing top is set for best speaking quality.
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MaleSamus said:
After a RMA, I received a replacement Pixel 2 XL and noticed the speakers sound different. The bottom (right) speaker has more bass whilst the top (left) speaker lacks it. This is noticeable all the time for me. When I cover the speakers with my thumbs to identify the issue more, the top speaker sounds very different for vocals, drums and guitars. I'm not sure if this is normal for this phone as my RMA was for another issue with the top speaker so I am wondering if this is normal. I have read people saying the top speaker is quieter and a few with this issue but I'm wondering if it's an issue that can be resolved through another RMA or if it's normal.
It would help if people with Pixel 2 XL's test their phone speakers to see if they experience what I do. A good left right speaker test is https://youtu.be/hTvJoYnpeRQ and when you rotate your phone, the left and right speakers should flip and the audio saying left should have more bass as the phone flips the channels.
All in all, should the speakers sound different or should they sound the same?
Thanks.
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I think they're supposed to be that way. Mine does the same thing, unless be both have bad ones lol.
My one does the same thing - I was aware of it but your link made it pretty noticeable though. I don't use the speakers often so not a big deal for me.
Thanks for the help guys. Funny how no review channels talk about this.
I may be wrong, but I believe the bottom speaker is slightly larger. I recall seeing that on a teardown video/article.
My USB adapter
Long ago my pixel speakers worked just fine until one day I decided to play some music,and plugged and unplugged my usb adaptader and after that my speakers got damaged, I've tried hard reset and the problem still remains till this day.
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After update (probably the problem was before update too, but after buying I did update almost at once) I noticed that speaker below are the same loudness. But speakers on the top of device are very, very quiet. Do all have the same problem?
I did not check the loudness of the speakers separately, but I have experienced a problem that might be related. If I lower the volume to one of the two lowest levels, there are dropouts on the audio when watching a video. Do you experience the same problem?
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I did not check the loudness of the speakers separately, but I have experienced a problem that might be related. If I lower the volume to one of the two lowest levels, there are dropouts on the audio when watching a video. Do you experience the same problem?
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What application do you use? Where do you see "one of the two lowest levels"?Make a screenshot of the situation when you hear dropouts, please.
Also check speakers separately by increasing volume to the maximum and putting your pointer fingers of each hand on 2 speakers on the bottom of the tablet. Then you will be able to hear only two speakers on the top.
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What application do you use? Where do you see "one of the two lowest levels"?Make a screenshot of the situation when you hear dropouts, please.
Also check speakers separately by increasing volume to the maximum and putting your pointer fingers of each hand on 2 speakers on the bottom of the tablet. Then you will be able to hear only two speakers on the top.
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It's happening in different apps, like Amazon Prime Video and South Park for example. By "one of the two lowest levels" I mean: Lower the system media volume to mute, then raise it by 1 -> lowest level; raise it by 1 again -> second lowest level.
There are also no specific situations in which the dropouts seem to happen. The dropouts are usually just 2 to 3 seconds long. It sounds as if the sound is dampened.
Thanks, I will check the speakers separately later today. I don't have the tablet with me at the moment.
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It's happening in different apps, like Amazon Prime Video and South Park for example. By "one of the two lowest levels" I mean: Lower the system media volume to mute, then raise it by 1 -> lowest level; raise it by 1 again -> second lowest level.
There are also no specific situations in which the dropouts seem to happen. The dropouts are usually just 2 to 3 seconds long. It sounds as if the sound is dampened.
Thanks, I will check the speakers separately later today. I don't have the tablet with me at the moment.
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I just tried playing on the "level 2" loop video with MX Player and didn't hear any dropouts. I cannot confirm the problem on my device.
Please. let me know the situation with two speakers on the top. Do they produce any sound? If they do what is the level of volume comparatively with the ones on the bottom? My speakers on the top is almost quiet. If I cover two speaker on the bottom with fingers or put the tablet on my skin on my laps (knees) I can hardly hear two upper speakers. Please, confirm: is it the situation of all devices M2-A01L?
yes that was what i was thinking
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I just tried playing on the "level 2" loop video with MX Player and didn't hear any dropouts. I cannot confirm the problem on my device.
Please. let me know the situation with two speakers on the top. Do they produce any sound? If they do what is the level of volume comparatively with the ones on the bottom? My speakers on the top is almost quiet. If I cover two speaker on the bottom with fingers or put the tablet on my skin on my laps (knees) I can hardly hear two upper speakers. Please, confirm: is it the situation of all devices M2-A01L?
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The two upper speaker seem to work correctly on my device. The volume of the right one is a bit lower, and seems a bit distorted, but both of them produce sound when I cover the lower two speakers. The lower two are louder, but that was expected.
I also realised that I'm on a different firmware version than you. Mine is M2-A01LV100R001C100B006
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The two upper speaker seem to work correctly on my device. The volume of the right one is a bit lower, and seems a bit distorted, but both of them produce sound when I cover the lower two speakers. The lower two are louder, but that was expected.
I also realised that I'm on a different firmware version than you. Mine is M2-A01LV100R001C100B006
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My upper speakers are very quiet, but they work. What can you say about the volume of upper speakers?
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My upper speakers are very quiet, but they work. What can you say about the volume of upper speakers?
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As I said before, the volume on the upper speakers is just a bit lower than the volume of the lower ones. But I can hear them perfectly fine when covering the two lower speakers.
my upper speakers were working loud and clear yesterday. today im pretty sure they are either not working or so low in volume that i cant hear them over the lower ones. Any ideas or suggestions? i did uninstall the harman kardon audio demo app.
Well I'm going to be talking about my speaker performance on the 10 compared to my previous phone the HTC One M8.
I don't know how HTC thought the 10's sound quality via the speaker was acceptable. I mean don't get me wrong the clarity of the sound from the speakers blows the m8 away for miles. It's hard to listen to the M8 without thinking how bad the clarity is imo. BUT the 10 is not as loud. The 10's tweeter on the front sometimes over powers the sub on the bottom and makes the song sound thin and tinny. I even tried flac files and still same thing. Not every song does this but a lot do. It doesn't have the force or drive like the M8 does. It seems like left (tweeter) and right (sub woofer) channels of song. You put the left and right together to get the full sound of the song. The M8 I believe has the left and right channels of the song on both speakers. That makes it more fuller an louder.
The M8 is pretty mushed at high volume meaning, it feels like all the instruments in the song are mashed together and thrown at you imo which is why I think the M8 doesn't have great clarity at all.
I'd like to say having clarity over mushed but louder and fuller sound is better but honestly I don't know anymore BUT hey the 10 has great headphone audio and other great features that make it worth having over the M8.
Let me know what you think and hopefully you guys have a better experience with sound meaning, there is a possibility that my device's speaker are defective lol.
Coming from an M8, I would say the HTC 10 definitely clearer but not as loud as the M8. However, it feels HTC worked on sound quality versus just making it loud.
It's a worthy trade-off. Using two different speakers for highs and lows is a brilliant idea and it really shows. I prefer listening to music at a mild volume for clarity versus loud somewhat distorted.
There were phones that were louder than the M8 but not as clear which is what BoomSounds trademark is.
On the 10, I can hear leaves rustling, fire popping, and other ambient noise that has never sounded so crisp, distinct, and natural. I feel like its the ATH-M50 of mobile sound with his balance.
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try music mode its almost stereo
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that felt the speakers sounded a bit tinny, especially at max volumes. It seemed a bit underwelming compared to my Nexus 6p. At moderate volumes however, it sounds decent. Lots of clarity.
Has anyone installed V4A and tried volume boost or increasing gain?
and i hate that boom sound doesn't work when using soundcloud google play yes and apple music no soundcloud wtf
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Has anyone installed V4A and tried volume boost or increasing gain?
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No since vzw got no root yet BUT poweramp has a volume booster and it is doing wonders.
How's sound quality through headphone... Is it upto the hype
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How's sound quality through headphone... Is it upto the hype
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The headphone jack is awesome and the audio profiles are badass. Creating profiles is done using two options: "Answer questions" which asks your age, styles of music you generally listen to, etc., and "Listen to frequencies" which generates a much more detailed 5-band EQ. The latter is much better because you can tune it based on what you can actually hear in either ear - it plays a frequency tone in the left headphone, you adjust the volume until you can barely hear it, then it plays a higher tone, you adjust volume, etc., and then it repeats the process for the right ear.
This is beneficial since boosting certain frequencies is often more useful (and less harmful to your hearing) than just cranking up the overall volume. No one has "perfect" hearing and hearing loss is often not uniform across the normal range of audible frequencies, nor is it necessarily uniform from left ear to right ear. In my case, my left ear required a little extra bass and highs while my right ear needed extra mid-range.
You can also use this to adjust the headphone output to specific listening environments you encounter. For example, creating an audio profile while on an airplane should be able to compensate for the engine noise. Later this morning I'll be setting up a profile with my lawnmower running outside, so I'm looking forward to hearing the results.
My only complaints are UI related:
1. The audio profiles are buried about 3 levels deep in Settings. When you plug in headphones, you get the "HTC BoomSound with Dolby Audio" card in the notification shade. Tapping the card takes you to the main Settings app, where you tap "HTC BoomSound with Dolby Audio" again, then "Personal Audio Profile", then choose or create your profile. Would have liked something a little simpler to use, or at least have the notification card go directly to the BoomSound settings instead of requiring an extra tap.
2. There doesn't appear to be a way to edit a profile or view its settings after you create it. You can enable it or you can delete it. -- EDIT: This is incorrect; I am an idiot. You tap in the profile to edit it.
3. The audio profiles are completely hidden when the headphone jack is not in use. You can't even see the profiles you've created. Tapping on "HTC BoomSound with Dolby Audio" in Settings just toggles the speakers between Music Mode and Theater Mode.
tl;dr - lives up to the hype. Maybe even better than hyped.
Source: have mixed audio (both live and recording settings) for >10 years, did my testing with a pair of Audio-Technica studio headphones.
I've got a pretty good system in my car and I just tried it out a few minutes ago. It sounds amazing! I'm coming from an M8 with V4A and it sounds about the same in some respects and better in others. I created a profile with frequencies and the difference after doing so was definitely noticeable. I like that they even have a high quality sample with a toggle so you can compare very easily. I do miss the Clarity setting and the equalizer in V4A, but overall I am extremely pleased!
What I'm running, for reference:
Arc Audio XDI 600 amp
Focal i165 fronts
JBL 3-way 6x9 rears
12" Diamond Audio sub
Regarding the "Personal Audio Profile", I understand you can create multiple profiles yeah? Can you give those profiles custom names?
I for example would probably like to do at least three different "listen to frequencies" profiles: for my Piston 3's, the HTC hi-res buds and for my superlux hd-330's.
Would be nice if you can name them however you want ;D
Also is there an option somewhere within the settings to disable the 16>24 upsampling bs?
Checked out the 10 at Verizon side by side to my M8. Played same YouTube song. 10 is clearer but, very tinny and I can't here it over the surrounding noise, tried both modes. The M8 at least I can hear it and can't believe people say you can't hear the stereo separation, you can if you turn the device side ways. Over all having the choice I would pick the two front facing speakers all day long. I think HTC blew it hear, at least there is a work around with Bluetooth speaker. This is a amazing device except for the speakers and lack of IR blaster. I will still get the 10 mainly for the dev support this will get.
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Checked out the 10 at Verizon side by side to my M8. Played same YouTube song. 10 is clearer but, very tinny and I can't here it over the surrounding noise, tried both modes. The M8 at least I can hear it and can't believe people say you can't hear the stereo separation, you can if you turn the device side ways. Over all having the choice I would pick the two front facing speakers all day long. I think HTC blew it hear, at least there is a work around with Bluetooth speaker. This is a amazing device except for the speakers and lack of IR blaster. I will still get the 10 mainly for the dev support this will get.
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If they could, I am sure they would have kept the front facing speakers, but that would have meant bigger bezels, on-screen navigation keys and fingerprint scanner at the back. That would have killed the device from the outset, so the current speaker configuration is the best compromise.
lagittaja said:
Regarding the "Personal Audio Profile", I understand you can create multiple profiles yeah? Can you give those profiles custom names?
I for example would probably like to do at least three different "listen to frequencies" profiles: for my Piston 3's, the HTC hi-res buds and for my superlux hd-330's.
Would be nice if you can name them however you want ;D
Also is there an option somewhere within the settings to disable the 16>24 upsampling bs?
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1) You can create multiple profiles and name it whatever you want.
2) Upscaling bit-depth from 16 to 24 will NOT do any harm in theory (loseless), yet upsampling sample rate to a non-integer multiple of original may trigger a process called SRC, for example 44.1Khz -> 192Khz, which might cause some minor accuracy problem, but it's still transparent to human ears.
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If they could, I am sure they would have kept the front facing speakers, but that would have meant bigger bezels, on-screen navigation keys and fingerprint scanner at the back. That would have killed the device from the outset, so the current speaker configuration is the best compromise.
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Probably true, the fingerprint scanner is to close to the bottom, kinda of a stretch one handed, if it would have been put were the HTC logo is on the M8 would have been more comfortable and possibly squeezed the lower speaker. You can't have everything in life so you make due...lol
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Probably true, the fingerprint scanner is to close to the bottom, kinda of a stretch one handed, if it would have been put were the HTC logo is on the M8 would have been more comfortable and possibly squeezed the lower speaker. You can't have everything in life so you make due...lol
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Still because of htc keep the boomsound setup. If you look closely at samsung s7, you will notice samsung hide their display circuit at the top, beneath the logo. But samsung's top speaker is a very very small one, meanwhile htc used 2 large speakers , top and bottom.
So basically htc had to move the fingerprint sensor a bit lower.
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1) You can create multiple profiles and name it whatever you want.
2) Upscaling bit-depth from 16 to 24 will NOT do any harm in theory (loseless), yet upsampling sample rate to a non-integer multiple of original may trigger a process called SRC, for example 44.1Khz -> 192Khz, which might cause some minor accuracy problem, but it's still transparent to human ears.
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1) Thanks for the confirmation.
2) Excuse me for using the wrong term, but you didn't answer the question. Surely it can't be so hard? Is there an option or is there not?
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1) Thanks for the confirmation.
2) Excuse me for using the wrong term, but you didn't answer the question. Surely it can't be so hard? Is there an option or is there not?
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Sorry I just forgot to answer that while explaining. No, there's no switch. And I couldn't even confirm the 16->24 conversion exists, official site state that they used a 24-bit capable dac, but didn't mention anything about upscaling/upsampling. If you have the source please don't hesitate to tell me.
HTC Nexus 9 I believe. That device had dual front facing speakers and those were really thin and on the edge of the screen, so I think they could have done something. With the 10, a volume booster makes it sound better but still tinny on the tweeter.
If you really want to hear a good example, play the song "vengeful one" by Disturbed, the intro is the tinniest sound you'll ever hear on the tweeter.
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Sorry I just forgot to answer that while explaining. No, there's no switch. And I couldn't even confirm the 16->24 conversion exists, official site state that they used a 24-bit capable dac, but didn't mention anything about upscaling/upsampling. If you have the source please don't hesitate to tell me.
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Well, you can switch BoomSound on/off entirely, but who knows if that changes the bit depth.
Your question about the audio profiles was already answered, but here are some screenshots of the profiles I made and what their EQs look like. I used the "listen to frequencies" method for all of them.
I have had a problem with distorted audio from both speakers for a long time now. It sounds like the speakers might be cracked but it seems dubious that both the bottom and top one should crack at the same time. At first I thought it was a software issue as it started to appear around the time I rooted the phone and put a ROM on it (LeeDroid). However, when I restored it to stock now via a RUU-zip and subsequently updated it to Nougat, the problem is still there. The distorted audio is present in all kinds of audio playback – music, alarms, ringtones etc. I've run some tests and it seems to start at about -10db of max volume.
I did swap the USB charging port/headphone jack daughterboard a while ago but the problem was present even before that. The swap didn't make it better either.
I've tried to clean the grills with a soft toothbrush and carefully blown with some some pressurized air but with to no avail..
Should I bother to replace the speakers or could it still be software related in anyway?
Try a magnet(not too strong), rubbing it over the speaker grills in case there are iron filings weighing the speaker down, this usually just makes the speakers quiet though.
Thanks! I'll give it a try...
jamieunit said:
Try a magnet(not too strong), rubbing it over the speaker grills in case there are iron filings weighing the speaker down, this usually just makes the speakers quiet though.
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I got my Pixel replacement from the 6P
Whenever I connect to bluetooth in my car,the sound is static whenever I try to make a call or talk on the phone.Sometimes I can't even hear the other person it just sounds like they're mumbling. Anyone have this issue?I'm on complete stock 8.0. But when I hold my phone to talk or use the speaker,it's clear. Music plays fine through Bluetooth car and headphones.
I've contacted Google and they said this is a known issue?
My fiance has the regular size Pixel and she doesn't have this problem at all. She does have a minor problem with not being able to hear on her side when she's talking to someone only while holding the phone though.They just sound very feint.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
I only have BT problems when the two horizontal bands on each side of the glass are covered. If i touch those with my hands my BT will become super distorted and cut in and out. I even had a cheaper case with "aluminum in the build for superior protection" that caused bad problems. so, maybe check for those.
Is anyone else getting an audio crackle when tapping the mic icon for voice typing? I remember this was fixed through software on my Pixel 2xl years back. It basically pops, sounds like it's clipping. VERY annoying.
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Google still can't provide proper speaker and mic since Nexus 4. How many years has it been now they been providing worst audio and mic performance?
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Google still can't provide proper speaker and mic since Nexus 4. How many years has it been now they been providing worst audio and mic performance?
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Did a factory reset to see. The microphone in google own messaging app didn't seem to crackle, but through Textra it did.
No crackle for me even on max volume.
What I did notice is that the stereo speaks are imbalanced in terms of volume. The selfie camera side speaker sounds way more "muted" than the charger side speaker.
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No crackle for me even on max volume.
What I did notice is that the stereo speaks are imbalanced in terms of volume. The selfie camera side speaker sounds way more "muted" than the charger side speaker.
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Agreed. MAYBE the volume levels are the same on both sides, but the selfie side definitely SOUNDS different. I also dislike the way notifications sound. It sounds like it's coming from the back of the phone going away from me, making it sound like it's coming from a different phone a couple feet away from me.
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No crackle for me even on max volume.
What I did notice is that the stereo speaks are imbalanced in terms of volume. The selfie camera side speaker sounds way more "muted" than the charger side speaker.
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Audio balance has always been an issue with Pixel phones, although they made a change to the series 5 which boosted the ear piece one was called adpative sound, maybe it works as well for 6
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Cares said:
No crackle for me even on max volume.
What I did notice is that the stereo speaks are imbalanced in terms of volume. The selfie camera side speaker sounds way more "muted" than the charger side speaker.
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I'm not entirely sure there are speakers there. I can't find a teardown video yet.
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Have you actually got the phone? All I've seen you do is comment after comment about how rubbish it is but nothing from you directly?
If you hate it so much don't get one.
No crackle for me. I use the mic often and play podcasts through the speakers of the day. The speakers are good, clear and can get loud if ineed them to.
The popping/crackling sound is happening on my pixel 6 non-pro model. If sound is playing and I either type or move around to different screens this happens. Looks like I am returning it.
So far I've only noticed pixel 6 pro speakers crackling playing genshin impact, easily heard on the main menu, but so far only noticed it in that specific title. Not while playing music or other games. So I'm hoping it's software related and I don't have defective hardware.
No crackle so far, just rocken Music.
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The popping/crackling sound is happening on my pixel 6 non-pro model. If sound is playing and I either type or move around to different screens this happens. Looks like I am returning it.
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Can you do a video for us, showcasing when this happens exactly and what kind of noise gets created?
Too late, returned the phone and earbuds. Between this, the lousy fingerprint reader and the phone randomly calling people, I am done.
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Too late, returned the phone and earbuds. Between this, the lousy fingerprint reader and the phone randomly calling people, I am done.
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I dont get how people get so many issues with phones lol... I've never had problems with any of my phones and I've had many...
My FP works 100% of the time, it is just a bit slower than the rest, but even then, just barely. I have a S21 Ultra in front of me right now and after testing both, I can definitely say that the S21 Ultra is a bit faster, the Pixel one is actually more accurate. I would prefer to have it in the back like previous models.
Having said that, if I did have those issues you described I would return it too.
I feel like it's a software thing, honestly. Because when i first setup myh device before I downloaded all the updates, there wasn't any audtio crackle at high/max volume. After I downloaded the updates, it's there slightly.
I don't have crackling or distortion, but I'm getting a good deal of sibilance from both speakers. Here is a definition of sibilance.
Sibilance
I listen to a lot of YouTube podcasts and videos and this is driving me crazy. I wanted to see if anyone else is having this problem before I see about returning the phone. Adaptive sound and balance control makes no difference.
I have a 6 Pro and have noticed crackling from bottom speaker since purchase when turning speaker on during phone calls. For me I otherwise really like the phone. I will be doing a repair or exchange once more phones become available.
I got my replacement brand new 6 pro, and now this one has distorted and crackling sound from the earpiece speaker. When i press the middle part of the screen anywhere.
I have turned off the adaptive audio, and I can hear the balance over blutooth changing. With one headset when listening to a mono podcast, you can hear the audio balance shifting randomly around.
With another bluetooth headset (my hearing aids), the balance starts out biased to the right, but the longer you listen the more it drifts to the left. Stopping and starting the audio stream immediately corrects it.
What is going on -- I have had every OnePlus Pro model since the 6, never had any issue like this.
Anyone have anything similar and or no how to fix? It is so annoying....