I recently bought S9 and planning to root. After root, can I install OTA, if I'm on stock ROM (Magisk system-less root, without changing any partition)? I searched this in many threads and I still have no clear idea, the OTA update fails on stock or the custom roms.
(I previously used Huawei and Xiaomi phones and they flawlessly installed OTA updates within root, root lost after update but anyway updated ).
Yes OTA works as long as the firmware you are on is stock firmware without any mods/custom
Status must stay "Official"
*Detection* said:
Yes OTA works as long as the firmware you are on is stock firmware without any mods/custom
Status must stay "Official"
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Thank you very much for the reply
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Hello
I have a Tab 10.1 Wifi that I rooted with Odin. I want to update to the newest FW, and I downloaded it on Sammobile. I know I have to use Odin to update it, but will I lose root?
If I do lose root, do I use the same method to re-root?
Also, now that I am rooted, what would happen it I tried to update the FW with Kies?
Thanks for the info
Jason
jericko said:
Hello
I have a Tab 10.1 Wifi that I rooted with Odin. I want to update to the newest FW, and I downloaded it on Sammobile. I know I have to use Odin to update it, but will I lose root?
If I do lose root, do I use the same method to re-root?
Also, now that I am rooted, what would happen it I tried to update the FW with Kies?
Thanks for the info
Jason
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Some answers : yes, you will lose root when you use Odin. Yes, you can use the same method to re-root. I don't use Kies, so I don't know the answer there.
jericko said:
Hello
Also, now that I am rooted, what would happen it I tried to update the FW with Kies?
Jason
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Using Kies was the only way I was able to update the firmware to the previous large update (the one prior to the Kids Mode update). I couldn't update using OTA, as I was getting the "Your device has changed. No updates available." message. So I read somewhere to try updating with Kies.
Once I updated using Kies, the update was successful, but I did lose root access as expected. I'm pretty sure I can root it again, as I haven't seen any posts to the contrary, but I haven't rooted it yet.
Thanks for the replies!
Does Towel Root, the 1 click root work?
Is there a way to save your root, update and re-apply root?
Thanks
I have. 10.1 wifi. Recently updated using Kies. Lost root, and was able to root again using the same root method I previously used. I tried towelroot, but could not get it to work.
NOTE: I and several others have reported random reboots since this upgrade (that added kid mode). I am on the US.
Sent telepathically to my Galaxy S4
My galaxy siii was rooted before kitkat was out, and I have been using it until now and have not yet update to KitKat yet because AT&T is not part of it any more.
How do I get KitKat on my phone? Do I have to unroot the phone and put it back into AT&T mode to download or what should I do?
this might help.
remember:READREADREAD
BACKUPBACKUPBACKUP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802160
good luck
err on the side of kindness
You will need to unroot your phone and have the stock recovery.
Thank you for both replies gentleman
audit13 said:
You will need to unroot your phone and have the stock recovery.
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I might add to this...if you removed any stock carrier or vendor apps from 4.3 while being rooted...you'll have to restore them via a Titamium Backup or some other way or the OTA update will not install properly. (I realized that the OTA update from 4.3 to 4.4.2 will patch these apps to update them to 4.4.2 compatibility)
If you can't do that or if its unreasonable to do that based on the way the phone was modified while rooted...I suggest flashing the stock 4.3 rom via Odin and then take the OTA.
Id recommend flashing the 4.3 firmware via Odin to begin with. Its starting to seem like a lot of people who even just have to unroot are having problems with the ota. I think Odin flashing stock 4.3 will give the best chance of a successful update.
mwrobe1 said:
I might add to this...if you removed any stock carrier or vendor apps from 4.3 while being rooted...you'll have to restore them via a Titamium Backup or some other way or the OTA update will not install properly. (I realized that the OTA update from 4.3 to 4.4.2 will patch these apps to update them to 4.4.2 compatibility)
If you can't do that or if its unreasonable to do that based on the way the phone was modified while rooted...I suggest flashing the stock 4.3 rom via Odin and then take the OTA.
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I am having this issue. I rooted on 4.3 and removed Google books and newsstand. I then uprooted and did a factory reset , so everything in download mode says "official" but the apps were still missing so I downloaded them from the play store. My question is will this let me get the OTA now or do I have to push the apps to the /system directory somehow? Also if I flash the 4.3 ODIN tar file, will it trip my warranty bit? It's at 0 right now and want to keep it that way until my warranty is up.
The firmware shouldn't trip the bit, but I can't promise that. Im sure its confirmed one way or the other in its thread though.
As for those apps, they'd have to be system apps, so just installing normally won't help. More importantly though, they would also need to be the same version that was originally built into the firmware. The apps you mentioned have seen many updates and using the current versions will not work.
I got the phone 2 weeks ago and it came with 4.3 installed on it. Would I be able to use the current version and just push them to /system/app with titanium backup? I am trying to get the OTA without tripping any warranty or security measures.
So i got a tab s 8.4 lte
rooted it
it disabled knox and tripped my knox warranty
then i installed kitkat sd fix
now i have undone the sd fix and unrooted my phone
but it didnt ask me to reenable knox
so will i get ota updates now or not
You can check by clicking 'update now'.
It says that the software on your device has been modified by an unauthorised way
Please visit the service centre
That means you can't.
I don't know whether knox bit is checked or some changes in the ROM. To make sure you could try to re-flash full stock ROM. But my bet would be, that you can't OTA with knox tipped.
So can anyone tell me how i can flash an incremental ota update via odin
or can i do so via TWRP
or is my last hope just flashing a full custom rom
just download the official firmware of your device and flash it with odin... after that if got any OTA update it will run. OTA only run with stock official firmware. no matter if you got knox 0x1 or not.
Just flashed TWRP
I think i'll flash a custom rom instead
BTW is your Selamba rom stable edan????????????
What does OTA require exactly? I am on stock ROM, rooted, skyhigh kernel. No OTA. Is it the kernel preventing OTA?
Instead of using Odin, you can as well use Kies, it does the update automatically.
But OTA is most convenient.
Pallavgarg10 said:
Just flashed TWRP
I think i'll flash a custom rom instead
BTW is your Selamba rom stable edan????????????
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It just a basic rom. 1.0.2 is stable. Or try the new one by THEDEVIOUS1
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Pallavgarg10 said:
So can anyone tell me how i can flash an incremental ota update via odin
or can i do so via TWRP
or is my last hope just flashing a full custom rom
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KIES. Don't forget KIES. We all hate it but it works when you want everything back to stock. I don't think the Knox bit alone will prevent you from getting OTA updates.
mhannigan said:
KIES. Don't forget KIES. We all hate it but it works when you want everything back to stock. I don't think the Knox bit alone will prevent you from getting OTA updates.
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Apparently it does
Pallavgarg10 said:
So can anyone tell me how i can flash an incremental ota update via odin
or can i do so via TWRP
or is my last hope just flashing a full custom rom
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It's always been my understanding from previous versions of tabs/Android that once you have installed a custom recovery, OTAs will fail. Download sure but fail to install.
pibach said:
What does OTA require exactly? I am on stock ROM, rooted, skyhigh kernel. No OTA. Is it the kernel preventing OTA?
Instead of using Odin, you can as well use Kies, it does the update automatically.
But OTA is most convenient.
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Kernel will trip Knox, as well as flashing a custom rom or installing a custom recovery (safestrap is ok). A custom kernel or pretty much any customizations will stop ota updates unless you do them via Odin as suggested. If knox doesnt block ota, you can Odin to stock ncg, take ota flash back to NCG kernel to reroot on towelroot and then flash new official ota kernel to keep root while ota updated. Personally I went to ne9 and ran back to ncg.. Won't be flashing anything until android L. NE9 was worthless, just killed root.
I've rooted with Towelroot, but I still have stock ROM. Will I be able to OTA to Lollipop? If not, is it enough to uninstall Towelroot, or do I have to flash a factory ROM?
Unrooting alone won't allow you to install OTAs because Towelroot changes partitions. You will need to flash a stock ROM.
Towelroot won't work with lollipop either.
Time to unlock the bootloader
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Seems like you were wrong about Towelroot stopping OTA. Just got the 5.0.2 OTA and updated without any problems. Just had to click on update.
nordor said:
Seems like you were wrong about Towelroot stopping OTA. Just got the 5.0.2 OTA and updated without any problems. Just had to click on update.
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Me too. Just unrooted in super su, restored host file in adaway and ota worked fine [emoji4]
nordor said:
Seems like you were wrong about Towelroot stopping OTA. Just got the 5.0.2 OTA and updated without any problems. Just had to click on update.
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Did you lose root? Just curious. I flashed mine manually awhile back and have since moved on to CM12. Towelroot doesn't work on lollipop, I used Chainfires CF-Auto-root.
Is it possible do to a Systemless root without custom recovery? or perhaps root with windows ADB wthout unlocking the bootloader?
Another question. Is there any possibility of flashing a new oficial firmware without losing all data? just like OTA does?
One final. I've installed the oficial indian 2.0.093 rom but it says there's no new ota update. Why is that? do I have to be in India???
fscussel said:
Is it possible do to a Systemless root without custom recovery? or perhaps root with windows ADB wthout unlocking the bootloader?
Another question. Is there any possibility of flashing a new oficial firmware without losing all data? just like OTA does?
One final. I've installed the oficial indian 2.0.093 rom but it says there's no new ota update. Why is that? do I have to be in India???
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1.Root is not possible with locked bootloader and if you unlock it, the update app will refuse to update.
2.Not really. If you use qfil it will erase all the usedata. There are sdfuse and manually flashing ota package, but you've to be on the CN ZUI.
3.Indian ZUI is at version 2..0.xxx, which is MM and there is no Nougat available yet for that version of ZUI. It will eventually come, but nobody knows when.
Overall, this phone is best used with custom ROM, like Mokee.