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Sorry Villain rom is down at the moment if you are having trouble getting the wonderful FROYD 1.2.1 here are some links
http://villainrom.jeremygohblog.com/...ase-signed.zip
and
http://villainrom.desean.net/release...ase-signed.zip
These are both for Froyd 1.2.1
OTA Update: FroydVillain 1.2.2 "GPS really needs a kick in the nuts"
VillainROM Updater app finally makes a return to the FroydVillain platform.
New in this update:
•Framework fixes for the GPSLocatorService that fix an issue causing a hang/crash when GPS was obtaining initial fix and location update.
•CPUSpeed no longer supports a screen off profile. See below for details.
•Updated lib_htcril.so to improve GSM switching, -should- also fix the people experiencing GPS+GSM not working.
•Kernel updated to fix some regression bugs in the USB stack, ARM code issues and to prevent the camera app clogging the IO bus.
•All the different OC kernels are now in the OTA app, just enable experimental updates to see them.
This OTA update clears the dalvik cache, as there are updates to the framework, so naturally your phone will take longer to boot.
We no longer support the use of a screen off profile with the interactive governor. It's really not needed. While it may make some difference to battery longevity, the benefits far outweigh the downsides. We're talking -maximum- a loss of an hour, over using a screen off profile. However you get the added benefits of:
Being able to use anything with the screen off without losing performance. For example phone calls, listening to music, etc.
Time for a brave new world of thinking, folks. Get used to the idea that it's better for the governor to accomplish a task as quickly as possible, then clock back down.
The other switch in thinking, is this. It's time we stop trying to work around whatever bull**** problem that apps on the market introduce by being buggy, crap or poorly designed. If we find there's an app or a widget that runs your phone at top clock all night, well, start giving the developer ****. We're no longer going to try and work around issues introduced into the OS by bad applications. Developers need to start taking more responsibility or face people not using their apps anymore.
Screen off profiles are a nasty workaround for this problem and it's going to go away, at least in FroydVillain. Your phone's performance should not be at the mercy of whether the screen is on or not. Having many frequencies in the table is a false economy because, and especially with the
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For any other details
IF ANY BODY NEED ACCESS TO THIS XDA ACCOUNT TO EDIT
i.e
pulser
ninpo
lenny
email for account details
[email protected]
[email protected]
neither links work....anyone got ANOTHER link we could use?
thanks
Mike, your links is borked:
Use this link instead: http://tinyurl.com/3a6r9u5
thanks for the links
hey jeremy
nice to see someone else from the Elf forums over here
Whoops.... hopefully one of team villain can log in and change top post
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Still down hopefully mcduck will get it sorted soon
anyone that haves the links of the kernels? i need a nice kernel, but can't find a link anywhere
Great work... I was doing fine until I tried one of the kernels... First boot should take longer... but how much longer? Mine's been on the VillainRom Loading screen for maybe 30 mins...
Cheers for the work...
Tom
tom3668 said:
Great work... I was doing fine until I tried one of the kernels... First boot should take longer... but how much longer? Mine's been on the VillainRom Loading screen for maybe 30 mins...
Cheers for the work...
Tom
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30 mins is too long. Try reboot again, if still failed to boot up. Reflash again.
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Hello Everyone,
This is only to share what I found after weeks of searching (after posting a question a kind gentleman referred me to it) that works with both the Canadian variant of the t0lte T889V and the T-Mobile version itself (t0lte: haven't tried it since I don't own the phone however it's stated in the posts that it works).
After trying it for a few weeks now it's very smooth, has a control environment that modifies OC, UV, GPU OC, etc with one click depending on profiles, etc.
Read on here ----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602053
All credits due to psndna88 for creating the kernel and flash at your own risk (as in, if you flash the kernel and anything happens psndna88 and myself are not responsible.)
Make sure to chose the correct version depending on your phone.
Cheers everyone and hope this helps!
Its been posted everywhere on the T889 Forums.
Double0EK said:
Its been posted everywhere on the T889 Forums.
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Thank you. I hadn't seen it though, and I was trying to find a kernel that would allow OC'ing with 4.4.2. I found others though and thought it may help anyone who would need it.
But thank you again!
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wavv.drama said:
Hello Everyone,
This is only to share what I found after weeks of searching (after posting a question a kind gentleman referred me to it) that works with both the Canadian variant of the t0lte T889V and the T-Mobile version itself (t0lte: haven't tried it since I don't own the phone however it's stated in the posts that it works).
After trying it for a few weeks now it's very smooth, has a control environment that modifies OC, UV, GPU OC, etc with one click depending on profiles, etc.
Read on here ----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602053
All credits due to psndna88 for creating the kernel and flash at your own risk (as in, if you flash the kernel and anything happens psndna88 and myself are not responsible.)
Make sure to chose the correct version depending on your phone.
Cheers everyone and hope this helps!
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From what I am reading, I understand that you tried this with T889V. But for sanity purposes and sake of completeness I want to ask the following:
The Agni kernel was flashed on T889V and in the last couple months you have had it, you have not noticed any glitches/issues?
subaron said:
From what I am reading, I understand that you tried this with T889V. But for sanity purposes and sake of completeness I want to ask the following:
The Agni kernel was flashed on T889V and in the last couple months you have had it, you have not noticed any glitches/issues?
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Hi there,
Yes, I have flashed on my T889V a few months back, since I wanted a kernel that would allow me to OC a bit, use fast charge for USB since I don't have a wall plug always available to me etc. Over the past few months it has worked flawlessly, I haven't had any issues whatsoever. I find my phone runs much smoother that it did before, it charges way quicker and given I haven't OC'ed it to the max allowed, it never randomly reboots or anything. Given I have added a bunch of mod apps such as viper4android for sounds and others that use a lot of ressources, it works perfectly for me, I never have any lags. I don't know if there is anything specific u would like me to tell u about, if so please let me know and I will.
Cheers
Sent from my SGH-I717M using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
wavv.drama said:
Hi there,
Yes, I have flashed on my T889V a few months back, since I wanted a kernel that would allow me to OC a bit, use fast charge for USB since I don't have a wall plug always available to me etc. Over the past few months it has worked flawlessly, I haven't had any issues whatsoever. I find my phone runs much smoother that it did before, it charges way quicker and given I haven't OC'ed it to the max allowed, it never randomly reboots or anything. Given I have added a bunch of mod apps such as viper4android for sounds and others that use a lot of ressources, it works perfectly for me, I never have any lags. I don't know if there is anything specific u would like me to tell u about, if so please let me know and I will.
Cheers
Sent from my SGH-I717M using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Thanks for all the info. I do have a few more questions.
How is the battery life? The biggest issue I found with custom roms and stock kernel was that battery life was terrible. It would drop a percentage roughly every minute and a half the screen was on.
Which Rom are you using this kernel with?
Which recovery did you end up using? CWM, TWRP or Phillz?
Also, did you root the phone with CF-Autoroot or SuperUser?
I had issues with whatsapp when I rooted my phone (I could not download pictures, but could send them). Went back to stock as I use whatsapp a lot.
My pleasure! As for my set up, it's stock Touchwiz 4.4.2 running Agni kernel. The app it comes with allows for several customizations, both battery friendly and performance friendly, but what I use if the above stock overclocking and a little. The governor and I/O scheduler are part of settings that the creator of Agni has, which works very well for me. As for battery, it lasts pretty much all day.. I use the phone for about 3 to 4 hours of voice, read a lot with it and text/youtube/listening to podcasts/casting video etc, and it lasts all day long. I charge my phone nightly, and goes from the morning at 100% to night time (around 9pm) at about 35% - 40%. I use philz, and rooted the phone with philz after flashing the recovery through Odin; I've never used CF auto root. After rooting the phone, I installed superSU and my phone runs very very smoothly. I used (in the past) Omni on this phone, and it used to work perfectly.. I had issues with netflix and the gallery, so I stuck to it for a few months but got tired of AOSP and went back to Touchwiz.. I personally prefer it.
Hope it helps, cheers!
wavv.drama said:
My pleasure! As for my set up, it's stock Touchwiz 4.4.2 running Agni kernel. The app it comes with allows for several customizations, both battery friendly and performance friendly, but what I use if the above stock overclocking and a little. The governor and I/O scheduler are part of settings that the creator of Agni has, which works very well for me. As for battery, it lasts pretty much all day.. I use the phone for about 3 to 4 hours of voice, read a lot with it and text/youtube/listening to podcasts/casting video etc, and it lasts all day long. I charge my phone nightly, and goes from the morning at 100% to night time (around 9pm) at about 35% - 40%. I use philz, and rooted the phone with philz after flashing the recovery through Odin; I've never used CF auto root. After rooting the phone, I installed superSU and my phone runs very very smoothly. I used (in the past) Omni on this phone, and it used to work perfectly.. I had issues with netflix and the gallery, so I stuck to it for a few months but got tired of AOSP and went back to Touchwiz.. I personally prefer it.
Hope it helps, cheers!
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Thanks for that. Now I know the process I can try to get better results with a custom kernel.
Lastly, are you running your T889V on Videotron? If so, have you updated your phone with the new stock firmware (T889VVLUDNH2) from Samsung? The T889VVLUDNH2 appears to be a modem only update for T889V, but I can't be sure as I have not found any official change log by Samsung.
In any case, I was wondering if the update enabled any LTE bands (specifically LTE Band 4 - the AWS LTE Band) on the T889V. The update seems to coincide with the LTE network that Videotron launched last month (Sept 2014).
Are you getting LTE speeds on your T889V?
wavv.drama said:
Hello Everyone,
This is only to share what I found after weeks of searching (after posting a question a kind gentleman referred me to it) that works with both the Canadian variant of the t0lte T889V and the T-Mobile version itself (t0lte: haven't tried it since I don't own the phone however it's stated in the posts that it works).
After trying it for a few weeks now it's very smooth, has a control environment that modifies OC, UV, GPU OC, etc with one click depending on profiles, etc.
Read on here ----------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602053
All credits due to psndna88 for creating the kernel and flash at your own risk (as in, if you flash the kernel and anything happens psndna88 and myself are not responsible.)
Make sure to chose the correct version depending on your phone.
Cheers everyone and hope this helps!
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I have tried CM11 and Omni 4.4.4 roms and it appears that the phone loses:
1) its model number (no big deal),
2) carrier id just shows US (would be useful to have real operator for roaming),
3) and lastly, does not show the type of data network it is connected to. Just shows bars, no E, 3G etc. Also, it show LTE in network options, but not WCDMA/GSM, since the phone does not have LTE. I would like too see the network I am connected to.
Any help would be much appreciated.
subaron said:
I have tried CM11 and Omni 4.4.4 roms and it appears that the phone loses:
1) its model number (no big deal),
2) carrier id just shows US (would be useful to have real operator for roaming),
3) and lastly, does not show the type of data network it is connected to. Just shows bars, no E, 3G etc. Also, it show LTE in network options, but not WCDMA/GSM, since the phone does not have LTE. I would like too see the network I am connected to.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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The only think I can think of is that since you're no longer running TouchWIz but AOSP, the Kernel might have compatibility issues. From what I read before when I was using this phone as my daily driver, this kernel was meant for TW roms, but since CM and Omni are AOSP, I figure some things might not be compatible. If I'm not mistaken, the creator of the kernel has a version called pure AOSP rather than this version, which is pure stock.
Hope it helps!
wavv.drama said:
The only think I can think of is that since you're no longer running TouchWIz but AOSP, the Kernel might have compatibility issues. From what I read before when I was using this phone as my daily driver, this kernel was meant for TW roms, but since CM and Omni are AOSP, I figure some things might not be compatible. If I'm not mistaken, the creator of the kernel has a version called pure AOSP rather than this version, which is pure stock.
Hope it helps!
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Thanks. Is there a ROM/Kernel combination you would recommend as a daily driver for the T889v.
I would want the following:
1) Decent battery life compared to stock. On stock I lose about 2.5% an hour by just being on standby. And with use I lose about 1% every 2 mins of screen time (for example when reading news in chrome browser at lowest brightness.)
2) Is responsive. The stock rom is starting to become really laggy (despite me having uninstalled a lot of apps). I know a lot of the budget phones like the Moto G2, which have less ram be much more responsive.
3) It would be nice if it shows the type of data network I am connected to HSPA+, 3G, Edge etc
4) Lastly, would be nice if it actually displays the carrier I am connected to, instead of displaying US.
Also, would points 3 and 4 be resolved if I removed boot.img from the ROM package? I have read that somewhere, but was not an authoritative source and don't want to brick the phone. It is still my daily driver, and would like to avoid bricking it.
Well, as for past experiences, what I used to run on the phone when I was on AOSP was Omni.. I really liked the battery life, it run for about two days with regular browsing, email checking, phone using, texting, youtube video playing, etc. If you decide to flash Omni, what I would suggest would be to run the kernel that comes with it. Normally, the Rom will come with it's own kernel manager (I believe they either use PAC kernel, Linaro or a CM based kernel), but it will work fine. The only thing that drove me off of Omni was that there was an issue with Netflix, but there's a patch running around in the forums and also in the Xposed framework. As per the ROM showing either 4G or LTE of HDPA+, at the time we didn't have in LTE with the phone, but I could see HSPA+ just fine.
If I can recommend something, is to clean install whichever ROM u decide to flash, and use the minimal GAPPS. Also, when you restore your apps (if you use something like TiBu) never restore system apps, just user apps.
Let me know what you end up doing and how it works for you!
I've had my M8 for about a year now and rooted it almost right away. I've been rooting my phones for years, since my HTC Incredible!
I've had about 4-5 different ROMs on my phone in this past year from CM to Revolution HD and Sky Dragon. But ALL of them seem to have the same issues. After a certain amount of time, maybe a week or maybe a month, they ALL start to get really, really laggy. I swear I've wiped and re-loaded my phone at least a dozen times so far!
For example, if I try to open Gmail or Chrome, it could take upwards of 5 seconds to actually pull up the program. Sometimes it's so bad, I have to force a reboot by holding power+volume up because the phone just won't respond to anything.
I've tried to go into apps and see the running programs, but most of the time either nothing special is running besides system type apps or it will just hang for minutes and I eventually force a reboot.
Am I the only one who is having such problems with these ROMs? Could I have gotten a bum phone? Is there some sort of diagnostics that I can run to make sure the CPU/Memory/etc. is working properly?
I'm at a loss right now. I nearly threw my phone across the room onto the concrete floor yesterday because it was so unusable all day.
Please help me figure out what's going on here, I'm at my wits end with this BS!
ned4spd8874 said:
I've had my M8 for about a year now and rooted it almost right away. I've been rooting my phones for years, since my HTC Incredible!
I've had about 4-5 different ROMs on my phone in this past year from CM to Revolution HD and Sky Dragon. But ALL of them seem to have the same issues. After a certain amount of time, maybe a week or maybe a month, they ALL start to get really, really laggy. I swear I've wiped and re-loaded my phone at least a dozen times so far!
For example, if I try to open Gmail or Chrome, it could take upwards of 5 seconds to actually pull up the program. Sometimes it's so bad, I have to force a reboot by holding power+volume up because the phone just won't respond to anything.
I've tried to go into apps and see the running programs, but most of the time either nothing special is running besides system type apps or it will just hang for minutes and I eventually force a reboot.
Am I the only one who is having such problems with these ROMs? Could I have gotten a bum phone? Is there some sort of diagnostics that I can run to make sure the CPU/Memory/etc. is working properly?
I'm at a loss right now. I nearly threw my phone across the room onto the concrete floor yesterday because it was so unusable all day.
Please help me figure out what's going on here, I'm at my wits end with this BS!
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Have you tried ViperOneM8?
The latest ROM (4.5.1) is a port of Sense 7 from the M9, but still has some small bugs to iron out. They are being addressed and will be fixed in the next update.
If you were to flash v4.3.0, you would get a stable ROM with lots of customizing options. It is Lollipop as well, but still on the official Sense 6 framework.
xunholyx said:
Have you tried ViperOneM8?
The latest ROM (4.5.1) is a port of Sense 7 from the M9, but still has some small bugs to iron out. They are being addressed and will be fixed in the next update.
If you were to flash v4.3.0, you would get a stable ROM with lots of customizing options. It is Lollipop as well, but still on the official Sense 6 framework.
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Yep, tried that one. I think it was one of my first ones actually (I actually donated to it!). Ran that one for about 6 months before giving up and moving on.
Dirty Unicorns works well for me, I have never experienced lags but updates are always available so the longest DU rom that stayed on phone was about 3 weeks.
Latest current version is official v9.6 android 5.1.1
Also you could try fstrim app on your current rom.
crackerjack1957 said:
Dirty Unicorns works well for me, I have never experienced lags but updates are always available so the longest DU rom that stayed on phone was about 3 weeks.
Latest current version is official v9.6 android 5.1.1
Also you could try fstrim app on your current rom.
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Thanks, I'm running CM 12.1 right now and really don't want to install yet another ROM. I'm to the point that if this doesn't work I'll just bring it back to stock and suffer with that or buy a new [email protected] phone!
I did try to run the fstrim app (didn't know about this), but it won't run. Says my system isn't supported.
The ViperOneM8 would be a really good ROM to use. Used it from the start, till moving on to my HTC One M9.
To ensure it always runs stable you got to update your firmware sometimes to match the base the developers are using for theire ROM. Did you always do and take care of this point!?
ned4spd8874 said:
Thanks, I'm running CM 12.1 right now and really don't want to install yet another ROM. I'm to the point that if this doesn't work I'll just bring it back to stock and suffer with that or buy a new [email protected] phone!
I did try to run the fstrim app (didn't know about this), but it won't run. Says my system isn't supported.
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Always have a backup just in case!!!
Flash pie patch for fstrim to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2821644&d=1403933203
More info why you need pie patch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/fix-bypassing-pie-security-check-t2797731
I just came from Razr this year to M8
Stayed with CM11 thru CM12.1 on the Razr up until about this time last year(kept trying up to cm12.1 on other slots until 3/12/15). The whole time the phone would become very laggy after about a week just as you are experiencing now. It was very frustrating & I know how you feel. Tried Liquid Smooth & it was a lot better with no lag but a few bugs, then stayed with AOKP rom until about March of this year,this was the best rom for me on the razr.
Wanted a faster phone because razr was 4 years old & was thinking hardware was just to old for performance.
So my friend DumbleDore suggest M8 running Dirty Unicorns & I have great phone!!!
Had a few issues with screen turning on while in my pocket(stock did it also) but smac0628 told me to turn off ambient display & that issue is resolved.
If Dirty Unicorns does not work for you then it has to be hardware on the phone.
You should try before buying another phone!!!
http://download.dirtyunicorns.com/files/m8/Official/DU_m8_5.1.1_20150814-0142.v9.6-OFFICIAL.zip
More info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/orig-development/rom-dirty-unicorns-5-0-2-htc-one-m8-03-t3052466
crackerjack1957 said:
Always have a backup just in case!!!
Flash pie patch for fstrim to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2821644&d=1403933203
More info why you need pie patch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/fix-bypassing-pie-security-check-t2797731
I just came from Razr this year to M8
Stayed with CM11 thru CM12.1 on the Razr up until about this time last year(kept trying up to cm12.1 on other slots until 3/12/15). The whole time the phone would become very laggy after about a week just as you are experiencing now. It was very frustrating & I know how you feel. Tried Liquid Smooth & it was a lot better with no lag but a few bugs, then stayed with AOKP rom until about March of this year,this was the best rom for me on the razr.
Wanted a faster phone because razr was 4 years old & was thinking hardware was just to old for performance.
So my friend DumbleDore suggest M8 running Dirty Unicorns & I have great phone!!!
Had a few issues with screen turning on while in my pocket(stock did it also) but smac0628 told me to turn off ambient display & that issue is resolved.
If Dirty Unicorns does not work for you then it has to be hardware on the phone.
You should try before buying another phone!!!
http://download.dirtyunicorns.com/files/m8/Official/DU_m8_5.1.1_20150814-0142.v9.6-OFFICIAL.zip
More info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/orig-development/rom-dirty-unicorns-5-0-2-htc-one-m8-03-t3052466
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Thanks, I flashed the pie patch, but that broke CM, it was stuck at the boot animation. I did make a backup, but decided to wipe and install DU for the heck of it. I don't have very high hopes to be honest after all these problems I've been having. I'm also hesitant to try to install the pie patch on DU...we'll see.
Fingers crossed that this all works!
Update: Welp, that was stupid, tried to install the pie patch on DU and it does the same thing; just stays on the boot animation. Dirty flashing the DU ROM seems to have brought it back to life without totally re-flashing.
I've never seen this issue. I'd suggest it has nothing to do with the roms, but more to do with apps installed and possibly also caches.
Yes, a clean install of anything will clean up things and all will be smooth. After time, certain apps and/or full caches can bog things down.
Your setup will determine smoothness also.
Just my opinion... But again, I've never had any rom slow down and lag after any amount of time. But my phone is lean as far as apps and setup go. And housekeeping is strict. :good:
ned4spd8874 said:
Thanks, I flashed the pie patch, but that broke CM, it was stuck at the boot animation. I did make a backup, but decided to wipe and install DU for the heck of it. I don't have very high hopes to be honest after all these problems I've been having. I'm also hesitant to try to install the pie patch on DU...we'll see.
Fingers crossed that this all works!
Update: Welp, that was stupid, tried to install the pie patch on DU and it does the same thing; just stays on the boot animation. Dirty flashing the DU ROM seems to have brought it back to life without totally re-flashing.
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Sorry about the piepatch link, thought it would have been good.
I have pulled the one I am using from my sd-card on phone & know it works, have used many times.
Here is the upload:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ms7l9xk27rw3fzd
I do not use facebook app, if you need it I would recommend the lite version.
If you need I will try to find for you.
crackerjack1957 said:
Sorry about the piepatch link, thought it would have been good.
I have pulled the one I am using from my sd-card on phone & know it works, have used many times.
Here is the upload:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ms7l9xk27rw3fzd
I do not use facebook app, if you need it I would recommend the lite version.
If you need I will try to find for you.
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Thanks, that one works!!!
I'm still trying to understand this app and what it does though. So, by default, /data and /cache are checked, but /system is not. Is there a reason to not run this for the /system partition?
ned4spd8874 said:
Thanks, that one works!!!
I'm still trying to understand this app and what it does though. So, by default, /data and /cache are checked, but /system is not. Is there a reason to not run this for the /system partition?
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Check all partitions, I think some roms or phones have a problem trimming system partition the reason it is not checked by default.
Its my understanding that android 4.3 & latter support trim & run automatically under certain circumstances.
http://www.xda-developers.com/yet-another-reason-to-update-to-android-4-3-trim-support/
The apps just let you control trim manually or schedule trim when you want to.
Trim is also on ssd's(solid state drives) that took the place of hdd's that could be defragged to speed up OS.
Dirty Unicorns has always been fast for me & trim was not needed because of quick updates.:good:
crackerjack1957 said:
Check all partitions, I think some roms or phones have a problem trimming system partition the reason it is not checked by default.
Its my understanding that android 4.3 & latter support trim & run automatically under certain circumstances.
http://www.xda-developers.com/yet-another-reason-to-update-to-android-4-3-trim-support/
The apps just let you control trim manually or schedule trim when you want to.
Trim is also on ssd's(solid state drives) that took the place of hdd's that could be defragged to speed up OS.
Dirty Unicorns has always been fast for me & trim was not needed because of quick updates.:good:
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Thanks for all the help so far!
Something is still wrong...still locking up and being unresponsive. Just going through and deleting apps until it starts behaving...what a pain! I still don't get it though, it's not like I have new apps, these are the same that I've always been using. Dunno.
ned4spd8874 said:
Thanks for all the help so far!
Something is still wrong...still locking up and being unresponsive. Just going through and deleting apps until it starts behaving...what a pain! I still don't get it though, it's not like I have new apps, these are the same that I've always been using. Dunno.
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Ok sounds like you have proved it not being a rom issue & think you may be on the right track by eliminating apps that could cause issues(slow & pain-in-the-a**).
I know you been doing this for a while but is firmware & TWRP up to date?
Also when changing roms do you wipe all that is needed before install?
crackerjack1957 said:
Ok sounds like you have proved it not being a rom issue & think you may be on the right track by eliminating apps that could cause issues(slow & pain-in-the-a**).
I know you been doing this for a while but is firmware & TWRP up to date?
Also when changing roms do you wipe all that is needed before install?
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Latest TWRP and yes, I do believe those are the settings I use when wiping.
One thing I have noticed is that when it does get slow, opening up the recent apps and clearing them seems to help performance. That is, when it's responsive enough to bring up that screen.
About two days and still no luck. Decided to wipe and resist installing any extra programs for now. Running bare bones sucks and it's boring!
I removed about 20 programs and none made a difference. Started with the obvious ones that would/could run in the background like Facebook, but that didn't matter. The only thing that worked every time to help with performance was closing all the recent apps.
Now I'm going to run as bare as I can until at least tomorrow evening and slowly install apps...
ned4spd8874 said:
About two days and still no luck. Decided to wipe and resist installing any extra programs for now. Running bare bones sucks and it's boring!
I removed about 20 programs and none made a difference. Started with the obvious ones that would/could run in the background like Facebook, but that didn't matter. The only thing that worked every time to help with performance was closing all the recent apps.
Now I'm going to run as bare as I can until at least tomorrow evening and slowly install apps...
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The ROMs that you have mentioned that you have tried are all pretty much as stable as can be. I'm going to say here that it is either user caused, or you are expecting too much.
Do you think there will never be issues? It happens on stock as well.
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The ROMs that you have mentioned that you have tried are all pretty much as stable as can be. I'm going to say here that it is either user caused, or you are expecting too much.
Do you think there will never be issues? It happens on stock as well.
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I understand that there will always be issues. But the phone shouldn't lock up totally while doing simple things such as opening email or turning wi-fi off. Last week I was at a point where I had to force reboot my phone just about every time I tried to do something because it was so unresponsive. That is not normal nor acceptable.
I've been running SkyDragon for weeks, dirty flashed and I have loads of crap on mine. I have absolutely no issues with lag, locking up or any other kind of anomaly.
No different to stock Tbh.
I very rarely reboot, I use All-in-one toolbox to disable unnecessary apps from start up and the excellent Extended settings with Xposed.
ashyx said:
I've been running SkyDragon for weeks, dirty flashed and I have loads of crap on mine. I have absolutely no issues with lag, locking up or any other kind of anomaly.
No different to stock Tbh.
I very rarely reboot, I use All-in-one toolbox to disable unnecessary apps from start up and the excellent Extended settings with Xposed.
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Hi Z2 plus users.
After lot of analysis and research, I finally ordered Lenovo Z2 plus today. Got a great deal.
8k INR / approx 125 USD
I have the option of getting Redmi Note 4 as well at approx 150 USD / 10k
I have gone through lot of videos on youtube with different custom rom reviews of Z2 plus, pros, cons etc.
My main concerns are:
- Battery Life
- Heating issue
- Overall usability without digging into custom rom installations and updates very frequently. I will install custom rom but would like to use it as daily driver for few months at least before I look for new updates etc. (Time is the issue - Don't get much of it these days to do all the research and experiments )
With custom roms like AICP, Jaguar - how is the battery life in terms of SOT?
How is the heating issue with custom roms which this phone is infamous for?
I saw a review from Indian tech reviewer on youtube suggesting Jaguar R14 is very stable and good rom for this. But I see some complains and users posting different issues in Jaguar rom thread.
Kindly suggest, if it will be good to go for this phone now (after 1.5 yrs of it's launch)?
Can I expect to use it as daily driver without any significant issues for next 2-3 years with custom roms?
At present which custom rom will you suggest with regards to Battery life and heating issue resolution?
some inputs here will he really helpful
saurav_k said:
some inputs here will he really helpful
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Try aex/paranoid/citrus and see what suits you best!
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Try aex/paranoid/citrus and see what suits you best!
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I do not have the device yet and that is my dilemma whether to accept it or return it.
Does these roms also have overheating issues?
How is the battery life on these?
CitrusCAF 3.5 by miju12 seems very stable(dont flash custom kernel unless you know what you are doing) and have favourable review from the users.
and Lenovo z2 is better choice anyway
looks okay
Got mine today as well. Same deal as the OP (around $120). First thing done was an upgrade to Nougat. Sept 2016 manufacturing and there was still 30% charge left . Device did heat up during upgrade as it was on charge. Haven't observed any major heating since. I have upgraded (or downgraded) from a oneplus 2 so my criteria of heating may be somewhat biased. A 5 inch display does seem smallish though.
Geekbench 4 was 1720, 3999 which is par for SD820. So no throttling etc.
Just wondering what is so broken about stock ROM ? What's not going well with everyone on ZUI ? I did tweak the DPI to my liking - other than that ROM feels pretty much stockish android. I mean I have heard so much hate about stock ROM for this device?
Edited - Ok I am starting to see oddities. 1. Double notifications (any fixes?)
And the usual follow up questions -
- Does the U touch specialization / gestures (swiping etc) work on the custom roms for this device ? Edited - Yes I guess.
- Would unlocking bootloader reset the device ? If yes, might as well do it before setting up apps etc. Edited - Yes it would like any other device.
Just wondering what is so broken about stock ROM ? What's not going well with everyone on ZUI ? I did tweak the DPI to my liking - other than that ROM feels pretty much stockish android. I mean I have heard so much hate about stock ROM for this device?
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I have been using Rooted ZUI (I believe that’s what the stock rom is called) for a few weeks now (Xposed now, but that’s been just a few days). At first I thought I would keep it stock rooted and get all the things I need with Xposed, but the Notification drawer and Lock screen is getting on my nerves. All notifications are ICS Style, i.e. they are not expandable and they have no quick action (except USB connection to PC which lets u choose cam/file mode). Lock screen has this weird image in the middle which just sits there doing nothing. Notifications doesn't get displayed in lockscreen (weirdly I am getting 1 calendar notification there, but nothing else). I tried enabling lockscreen notification for a lot of apps, but it seems to just allow calendar and nothing else.
The U-touch is awesome BTW, but wont let me start Google Assistant voice through it (I like being able to set alarms through it)
So I have noticed some recent slow down on my phone, very minor and non-specific. I also have noticed a bit higher battery drain as of late, which could possibly be due to having 181 apps on my phone...
Either way I was considering a Custom ROM and Kernel or just a custom Kernel. However I've done this with every other phone I've ever owned (Galaxy Nexus, GS3, MotoX, Nexus 6p, Pixel XL) and I was REALLY trying to just stay completely stock android for now...is the ROM world worth it or should I just delete some apps and factory reset the phone to start fresh? My experience with ROMs is that I was often attempting to update to fix some little bug or issue and it because addicting but not really beneficial to my phone experience.
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So I have noticed some recent slow down on my phone, very minor and non-specific. I also have noticed a bit higher battery drain as of late, which could possibly be due to having 181 apps on my phone...
Either way I was considering a Custom ROM and Kernel or just a custom Kernel. However I've done this with every other phone I've ever owned (Galaxy Nexus, GS3, MotoX, Nexus 6p, Pixel XL) and I was REALLY trying to just stay completely stock android for now...is the ROM world worth it or should I just delete some apps and factory reset the phone to start fresh? My experience with ROMs is that I was often attempting to update to fix some little bug or issue and it because addicting but not really beneficial to my phone experience.
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IMHO, the P2XL runs great on stock with a custom kernel and root. Custom roms, are just now starting to become available with some really good ones out there. However, in your case I think it's more of an app and memory thing causing your intermittent slow down. A custom rom isn't likely to have that great of an impact just to gain some extra tweaks, and since you'll probably still instal your 180 apps, you'll likely be back in the same boat. I'd try the kernel first, and go from there. ??
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So I have noticed some recent slow down on my phone, very minor and non-specific. I also have noticed a bit higher battery drain as of late, which could possibly be due to having 181 apps on my phone...
Either way I was considering a Custom ROM and Kernel or just a custom Kernel. However I've done this with every other phone I've ever owned (Galaxy Nexus, GS3, MotoX, Nexus 6p, Pixel XL) and I was REALLY trying to just stay completely stock android for now...is the ROM world worth it or should I just delete some apps and factory reset the phone to start fresh? My experience with ROMs is that I was often attempting to update to fix some little bug or issue and it because addicting but not really beneficial to my phone experience.
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I used to have more than 100 apps earlier...but then I realized I wasn't using many of those apps..may be I was using them once in a month which can be accessed from browser as well.. So I uninstalled around 40 apps and its been two months and I never needed those apps on mobile..so you can rethink as well..Also I usually clear cache in TWRP once in every two weeks...and I restart the phone daily...
DU all the way
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I used to have more than 100 apps earlier...but then I realized I wasn't using many of those apps..may be I was using them once in a month which can be accessed from browser as well.. So I uninstalled around 40 apps and its been two months and I never needed those apps on mobile..so you can rethink as well..Also I usually clear cache in TWRP once in every two weeks...and I restart the phone daily...
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I just deleted a bunch of the apps, down to 142. I just have a bunch of apps that I use very infrequently like (uber, chipotle, panera etc.), but they are super convenient and I hate having to download and figure out my sign in on those moments I do want to use them.
Is there a way make sure certain apps just sit completely dormant unless I open them up? No syncing, no data usage, no battery usage unless they are actually being used.
Reuben_skelz92 said:
DU all the way
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I tried DU on my Nexus 6P I think it was, and found the devs to be way to arrogant and disrespectful. They make a decent product, but almost every day they were getting in fights with people whom were having little issues with their ROM.
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I tried DU on my Nexus 6P I think it was, and found the devs to be way to arrogant and disrespectful. They make a decent product, but almost every day they were getting in fights with people whom were having little issues with their ROM.
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It's a positive development now
GatorsUF said:
I just deleted a bunch of the apps, down to 142. I just have a bunch of apps that I use very infrequently like (uber, chipotle, panera etc.), but they are super convenient and I hate having to download and figure out my sign in on those moments I do want to use them.
Is there a way make sure certain apps just sit completely dormant unless I open them up? No syncing, no data usage, no battery usage unless they are actually being used.
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Maybe disabling the apps/freezing them in Titanium Backup?
ROMs, especially on Pixel devices are really losing their "allure".. You can do most anything a custom ROM can do by just rooting.. A custom Kernel never hurts in most cases but that's as far as I go anymore. Custom ROMs had their place in the day when swapping out your phones OS with another was new and exciting when Android was in it's growing pains years.. Now a days though.. Ehh.. Stock is god damn solid..
Reuben_skelz92 said:
DU all the way
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Super useful and informative comment.
styckx said:
ROMs, especially on Pixel devices are really losing their "allure".. You can do most anything a custom ROM can do by just rooting.. A custom Kernel never hurts in most cases but that's as far as I go anymore. Custom ROMs had their place in the day when swapping out your phones OS with another was new and exciting when Android was in it's growing pains years.. Now a days though.. Ehh.. Stock is god damn solid..
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I have to agree with this. I've fought back my urge to flash custom ROMs simply because they don't seem to offer much of anything over stock these days. I did give Lineage a try a few weeks back but got frustrated because the image quality from the built in camera on that ROM was not as good as stock and at the time there was no way to use the stock camera APK. That has likely been fixed by now, but I still see no real drive into a custom ROM.
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Super useful and informative comment.
I have to agree with this. I've fought back my urge to flash custom ROMs simply because they don't seem to offer much of anything over stock these days. I did give Lineage a try a few weeks back but got frustrated because the image quality from the built in camera on that ROM was not as good as stock and at the time there was no way to use the stock camera APK. That has likely been fixed by now, but I still see no real drive into a custom ROM.
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To Rom or not to Rom? Yes...DU all the way
Want us to flash the ROMs for you ??
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Want us to flash the ROMs for you ??
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:laugh: What?
GatorsUF said:
I tried DU on my Nexus 6P I think it was, and found the devs to be way to arrogant and disrespectful. They make a decent product, but almost every day they were getting in fights with people whom were having little issues with their ROM.
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Yeah I agree. But there Rom is awesome. I generally just don't report anything and let them get on with it. If there's a bug that annoys me I just wait for the next build and use something else. But yes some of the Devs are arrogant and can be jerks.
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ROMs, especially on Pixel devices are really losing their "allure".. You can do most anything a custom ROM can do by just rooting.. A custom Kernel never hurts in most cases but that's as far as I go anymore. Custom ROMs had their place in the day when swapping out your phones OS with another was new and exciting when Android was in it's growing pains years.. Now a days though.. Ehh.. Stock is god damn solid..
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Slightly disagree. There's some really useful and cool features on ROMs like DU you couldn't get on stock. I agree some ROMs are practically stock so no point
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:laugh: What?
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Don't really know. Just ignore me :laugh:
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Slightly disagree. There's some really useful and cool features on ROMs like DU you couldn't get on stock. I agree some ROMs are practically stock so no point
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Like what? Feel free to link me to another post or thread discussing the features if you want. I'm genuinely curious to see the what the ROM offers. The only thing I've found so far is their Google+ page but nothing that lists the key features. And their official blog hasn't been updated since August, 2017.
If there is a solid ROM with additional useful features over stock, I'd be glad to give it a shot. Just haven't found any that fit the bill yet.
Ideally:
- Ability to use the stock Google camera APK
- No major stability issues with core features working (i.e. no issues making/receiving calls or texts and no reboots)
- No major decline in battery performance
One main reason I keep stock is because I love Android Pay and the fight was ongoing with Magisk. If I go stock w/ root will I have to fight with safety net to keep Android pay (now Google Pay as of today) working? Also is there any issue with root/custom kernels and Google Fi?
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Like what? Feel free to link me to another post or thread discussing the features if you want. I'm genuinely curious to see the what the ROM offers. The only thing I've found so far is their Google+ page but nothing that lists the key features. And their official blog hasn't been updated since August, 2017.
If there is a solid ROM with additional useful features over stock, I'd be glad to give it a shot. Just haven't found any that fit the bill yet.
Ideally:
- Ability to use the stock Google camera APK
- No major stability issues with core features working (i.e. no issues making/receiving calls or texts and no reboots)
- No major decline in battery performance
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DU Def fits the deal. Believe me. Daily driver easily. I use it with flash kernel. Amazing performance and battery life. There's things like pulse. The ability to swipe left or right on the fingerprint to get rid of notifications. 4 rows in quick settings. Set the navbar size or add buttons. Quick reboot. Expanded desktop. Ability to set the theme white or dark.
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Reuben_skelz92 said:
DU Def fits the deal. Believe me. Daily driver easily. I use it with flash kernel. Amazing performance and battery life. There's things like pulse. The ability to swipe left or right on the fingerprint to get rid of notifications. 4 rows in quick settings. Set the navbar size or add buttons. Quick reboot. Expanded desktop. Ability to set the theme white or dark.
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It uses stock camera app. Haven't found one bug.
I BELIEVE the RC builds they don't really give chanelogz etc
But one they release weekly or stable builds you will get the feature lists and changelogs
Reuben_skelz92 said:
DU Def fits the deal. Believe me. Daily driver easily. I use it with flash kernel. Amazing performance and battery life. There's things like pulse. The ability to swipe left or right on the fingerprint to get rid of notifications. 4 rows in quick settings. Set the navbar size or add buttons. Quick reboot. Expanded desktop. Ability to set the theme white or dark.
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It uses stock camera app. Haven't found one bug.
I BELIEVE the RC builds they don't really give chanelogz etc
But one they release weekly or stable builds you will get the feature lists and changelogs
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Well dang. Looks like I need to give this thing a shot. Thanks!
ROM IT!!!
i also agree...DU!!!